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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-16 04:46 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-20 16:56 +0000 |
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Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 04:46 -0500
Re:Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:17 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2018-11-19 11:34 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:14 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-16 21:39 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 17:09 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 00:39 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 02:31 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 04:00 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 05:52 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-17 00:48 -0600
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:03 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:55 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:25 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 20:25 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 15:46 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 21:09 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 07:54 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:03 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:09 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 10:55 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:30 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:16 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:43 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:22 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:36 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:55 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:33 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:34 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:48 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:42 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:40 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 18:36 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 06:36 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:21 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 09:44 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 19:26 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-19 09:41 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:43 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 13:05 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:11 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 08:04 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-11-21 14:50 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 09:41 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 10:41 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 18:54 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-21 20:35 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:42 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-21 20:50 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:16 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:29 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:54 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:44 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-22 18:39 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:04 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 22:20 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-19 07:59 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 09:28 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:01 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:31 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2018-11-20 19:04 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:24 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:03 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:09 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:23 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:40 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:42 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:32 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:57 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 20:15 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:36 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 17:15 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-20 16:56 +0000
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 07:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pstmnv$mv5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57638 |
Am 18.11.18 um 22:09 schrieb Andy Burns: > nospam wrote: > >> real sms is primitive. messaging apps do quite a bit more, including >> end-to-end encryption > > Nothing I send via SMS needs encrypting > >> embedded media > > I would use email > >> receipts > > SMS supports delivery notifications (not all providers do, or some of > them charge) > >> group chats >> p2p payments > > Neither are the sort of thing I use SMS for > >> and will work on a desktop/laptop computer > > The QR code link from a desktop browser to the Android Messaging app is > quite neat > > <https://messages.android.com> > >> as well as over wifi. > > There are more places where I have no WiFi than where I have no 2G coverage. > > Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never ever answer back with an SMS. Full quote intentional.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 08:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pstn83$ntl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57645 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: > Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never ever answer back with an SMS.Full quote intentional. Perhaps outdated, but not completely. It is used by many yet. Most users I know will answer with an SMS, especially if they realize or already know they do not have the other side withing their messaging app contacts. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 08:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pstnig$p89$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57646 |
Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> Wrote in message: > Perhaps outdated, but not completely.It is used by many yet.Most users I know will answer with an SMS, especially if they realize or already knowthey do not have the other side withing their messaging app contacts. P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, switched ON on their demand only, so they are not reachable. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 10:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psu1ah$bui$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57648 |
Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz: > P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do > not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, > switched ON on their demand only, > so they are not reachable. > In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe it is almost inexistent.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 11:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psu3bp$mbq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57653 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: > Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz:> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan,> switched ON on their demand only,> so they are not reachable. > In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe it is almost inexistent. You have biased information. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psud2p$eqa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57656 |
Am 19.11.18 um 11:30 schrieb Libor Striz: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: >> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe it is almost inexistent. > > You have biased information. Do you want to defend your own outdated behaviour? In Europe it is almost impossible to sell "feature phones". The ones that are still around from the pre-Android- and pre-iPhone era are dying with worn out batteries. Population-share presumably considerably less than 5% and usage-share under 1%? I would also appreciate if you could shorten your lines to 72 characters maximum. That's a question of politeness.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psuemr$onr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57664 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: > Am 19.11.18 um 11:30 schrieb Libor Striz:> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message:>> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe it is almost inexistent.> > You have biased information. > Do you want to defend your own outdated behaviour? It need not defense. I do use messaging apps a lot so do I use sms. SMS are e.g. invaluable for receivers abroad out of EU if they do not use roaming data nor local SIM. > I would also appreciate if you could shorten your lines to 72 characters maximum. That's a question of politeness. My line does not have 72 characters. Generally, it is hard to count them here, but I usually put a new line every 2 display lines on the Android screen. The quoting mess us the recent strange behaviour of one of few free and usable Android Usenet client . -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 13:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psudei$h77$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57653 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz: >> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do >> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, >> switched ON on their demand only, >> so they are not reachable. >> > In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe > it is almost inexistent. Yet still approx half of all eu shipments https://www.statista.com/statistics/225489/market-share-of-the-european-region-in-global-feature-phone-and-smartphone-shipments/#0 Still a very blinkered view. Most mobile users are outside of the EU and US. In Africa and the Indian subcontinent feature phones are still dominant. Globally they make up ~50% of all phones sold. https://www.statista.com/statistics/285596/forecast-smartphone-penetration-amongst-mobile-users-worldwide/
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psue8u$lnn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57666 |
Am 19.11.18 um 14:22 schrieb Chris: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >> Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz: >>> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do >>> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, >>> switched ON on their demand only, >>> so they are not reachable. >>> >> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe >> it is almost inexistent. > > Yet still approx half of all eu shipments > https://www.statista.com/statistics/225489/market-share-of-the-european-region-in-global-feature-phone-and-smartphone-shipments/#0 > > Still a very blinkered view. Most mobile users are outside of the EU and > US. In Africa and the Indian subcontinent feature phones are still > dominant. Globally they make up ~50% of all phones sold. > https://www.statista.com/statistics/285596/forecast-smartphone-penetration-amongst-mobile-users-worldwide/ What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African and Indian cell phones?
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psufbv$ski$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57668 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: >In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African and Indian cell phones? Note that the OP has not explicitly stated he wanted US solution and that this group is international. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 10:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pt0kdb$jv7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57671 |
Am 19.11.18 um 14:55 schrieb Libor Striz: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: > >> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African and Indian cell phones? > > Note that the OP has not explicitly stated he wanted US solution > and that this group is international. You are deliberately bullshitting. EOD.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 15:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psuolp.2rs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57668 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 14:22 schrieb Chris: > > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > >> Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz: > >>> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do > >>> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, > >>> switched ON on their demand only, > >>> so they are not reachable. > >>> > >> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe > >> it is almost inexistent. > > > > Yet still approx half of all eu shipments > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/225489/market-share-of-the-european-region-in-global-feature-phone-and-smartphone-shipments/#0 > > > > Still a very blinkered view. Most mobile users are outside of the EU and > > US. In Africa and the Indian subcontinent feature phones are still > > dominant. Globally they make up ~50% of all phones sold. > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/285596/forecast-smartphone-penetration-amongst-mobile-users-worldwide/ > > What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? The one wanting to be right at any price would be *you*! Or what defense do you have for dodging "eu" and diverting to an attack? > In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States > is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African > and Indian cell phones? At least *try* to keep up, will you!? The app recommendation part was a long time ago, the OP found what he wanted and *said* so. *Currently* we're (not) discussing *your* silly statment <You> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never ever answer back with an SMS. </You> which you made - oh the irony - using this "completely outdated" medium.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 19:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psv41v$5mt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57668 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 14:22 schrieb Chris: >> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>> Am 19.11.18 um 08:09 schrieb Libor Striz: >>>> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do >>>> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, >>>> switched ON on their demand only, >>>> so they are not reachable. >>>> >>> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe >>> it is almost inexistent. >> >> Yet still approx half of all eu shipments >> https://www.statista.com/statistics/225489/market-share-of-the-european-region-in-global-feature-phone-and-smartphone-shipments/#0 >> >> Still a very blinkered view. Most mobile users are outside of the EU and >> US. In Africa and the Indian subcontinent feature phones are still >> dominant. Globally they make up ~50% of all phones sold. >> https://www.statista.com/statistics/285596/forecast-smartphone-penetration-amongst-mobile-users-worldwide/ > > What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? I'm not proving anything. Just showing up your baseless assertion for what it is. Feature phones are neither outdated nor non-existent. > In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States > is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African > and Indian cell phones? This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group ;)
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 10:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pt0kui$n0f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57678 |
Am 19.11.18 um 20:48 schrieb Chris: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >> What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? > > I'm not proving anything. Just showing up your baseless assertion for what > it is. Feature phones are neither outdated nor non-existent. Because you claim that? Yesterday Deloitte published a study that over 92% of all mobile users in Switzerland have a smartphone and not a "feature phone". >> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States >> is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African >> and Indian cell phones? > > This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group ;) How many Indians or Africans are writing here? Usenet is a geriatric event from the early days of internet for Americans and Europeans. People from Asia or Africa with their "feature phones" skipped this oldfashioned way of communication and went directly to WhatsApp or WeChat. EOD
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 12:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt0vcj$he5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57686 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 20:48 schrieb Chris: >> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>> What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? >> >> I'm not proving anything. Just showing up your baseless assertion for what >> it is. Feature phones are neither outdated nor non-existent. > > Because you claim that? Yesterday Deloitte published a study that over > 92% of all mobile users in Switzerland have a smartphone and not a > "feature phone". Switzerland is a small, wealthy country so hardly representative, and yet feature phones still make up 8%. Still very much current. >>> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States >>> is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African >>> and Indian cell phones? >> >> This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group ;) > > How many Indians or Africans are writing here? > Usenet is a geriatric event from the early days of internet for > Americans and Europeans. People from Asia or Africa with their "feature > phones" skipped this oldfashioned way of communication and went directly > to WhatsApp or WeChat. > This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant messaging via apps.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <201120181328131865%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57691 |
In article <pt0vcj$he5$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? > >> > >> I'm not proving anything. Just showing up your baseless assertion for what > >> it is. Feature phones are neither outdated nor non-existent. > > > > Because you claim that? Yesterday Deloitte published a study that over > > 92% of all mobile users in Switzerland have a smartphone and not a > > "feature phone". > > Switzerland is a small, wealthy country so hardly representative, and yet > feature phones still make up 8%. Still very much current. 8% is a very small fraction, and it isn't just switzerland. you're also confusing unit sales with messages sent. those who buy feature phones don't text anywhere near as much as those with smartphones, mostly because it's a pain to do so. > >>> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States > >>> is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African > >>> and Indian cell phones? > >> > >> This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group ;) > > > > How many Indians or Africans are writing here? > > Usenet is a geriatric event from the early days of internet for > > Americans and Europeans. People from Asia or Africa with their "feature > > phones" skipped this oldfashioned way of communication and went directly > > to WhatsApp or WeChat. > > This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant > messaging via apps. the point is that usenet has been replaced with modern web forums. and since india was mentioned: <https://trak.in/tags/business/2013/09/28/death-sms-indians-sending-2-sm s-day/> In a recent survey by Nielson, India, it was revealed that mobile chat applications such as Nimbuzz and WhatsApp have literally destroyed the SMS culture and usage inside India. Powered by internet, these applications are prompting Indians to ditch SMS which normally costs Re 1 to Rs 1.5 for local numbers and as high as Rs 5 for international numbers. ... This trend is not a one-off case. Researchers and trend watchers have observed this phenomenon to occur in USA and China as well. Famous chat applications in China such as Weibo and WeChat have triggered massive downfall in SMS usage in cities such as Beijing where the per capita SMS usage has fallen to 36 from 42 a year ago. And the trend is continuingŠ ... Gartner India has already predicted that revenues from SMS would slowly extinct in Asia and rest of the world in coming years.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 18:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt48j8$a4s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57705 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pt0vcj$he5$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> What do you want to prove? That you want to be right at any price? >>>> >>>> I'm not proving anything. Just showing up your baseless assertion for what >>>> it is. Feature phones are neither outdated nor non-existent. >>> >>> Because you claim that? Yesterday Deloitte published a study that over >>> 92% of all mobile users in Switzerland have a smartphone and not a >>> "feature phone". >> >> Switzerland is a small, wealthy country so hardly representative, and yet >> feature phones still make up 8%. Still very much current. > > 8% is a very small fraction, and it isn't just switzerland. No it isn't. 8% is still a huge number of devices. > you're also confusing unit sales with messages sent. those who buy > feature phones don't text anywhere near as much as those with > smartphones, mostly because it's a pain to do so. See my other post. >>>>> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States >>>>> is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African >>>>> and Indian cell phones? >>>> >>>> This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group ;) >>> >>> How many Indians or Africans are writing here? >>> Usenet is a geriatric event from the early days of internet for >>> Americans and Europeans. People from Asia or Africa with their "feature >>> phones" skipped this oldfashioned way of communication and went directly >>> to WhatsApp or WeChat. >> >> This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant >> messaging via apps. > > the point is that usenet has been replaced with modern web forums. So what? Doesn't negate what I said. > and since india was mentioned: > > <https://trak.in/tags/business/2013/09/28/death-sms-indians-sending-2-sm > s-day/> > In a recent survey Recent?! Is from 2013. At least I back up my statements with relevant data. > This trend is not a one-off case. Researchers and trend watchers have > observed this phenomenon to occur in USA and China as well. Famous > chat applications in China such as Weibo and WeChat have triggered > massive downfall in SMS usage in cities such as Beijing where the per > capita SMS usage has fallen to 36 from 42 a year ago. And the trend > is continuing China is not a normal market as the government dictates what people use and how they use it. People's weibo IDs are used to access government services. Outside of cities in most countries Wi-Fi and mobile data are rarer so chat apps are unusable.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <211120181510433894%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57738 |
In article <pt48j8$a4s$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Because you claim that? Yesterday Deloitte published a study that over > >>> 92% of all mobile users in Switzerland have a smartphone and not a > >>> "feature phone". > >> > >> Switzerland is a small, wealthy country so hardly representative, and yet > >> feature phones still make up 8%. Still very much current. > > > > 8% is a very small fraction, and it isn't just switzerland. > > No it isn't. 8% is still a huge number of devices. 92% is more than 10x larger. > > you're also confusing unit sales with messages sent. those who buy > > feature phones don't text anywhere near as much as those with > > smartphones, mostly because it's a pain to do so. > > See my other post. no need to. those with feature phones don't text much (or at all), so the difference is actually more than 92/8. > >>>>> In the context of this thread where someone living in the United States > >>>>> is asking or an app recommendation, who cares what happens on African > >>>>> and Indian cell phones? > >>>> > >>>> This is an international forum readable by anyone. Not a WhatsApp group > >>>> ;) > >>> > >>> How many Indians or Africans are writing here? > >>> Usenet is a geriatric event from the early days of internet for > >>> Americans and Europeans. People from Asia or Africa with their "feature > >>> phones" skipped this oldfashioned way of communication and went directly > >>> to WhatsApp or WeChat. > >> > >> This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant > >> messaging via apps. > > > > the point is that usenet has been replaced with modern web forums. > > So what? Doesn't negate what I said. the so what is that outdated technology has been replaced with modern versions. there are many more examples, including digital photography, (which is almost entirely smartphone cameras), digital music and much more. > > and since india was mentioned: > > > > <https://trak.in/tags/business/2013/09/28/death-sms-indians-sending-2-sm > > s-day/> > > In a recent survey > > Recent?! Is from 2013. At least I back up my statements with relevant data. it's very relevant. messaging outpaced sms more than five years ago and continues to increase. more recent numbers were in another post. > > This trend is not a one-off case. Researchers and trend watchers have > > observed this phenomenon to occur in USA and China as well. Famous > > chat applications in China such as Weibo and WeChat have triggered > > massive downfall in SMS usage in cities such as Beijing where the per > > capita SMS usage has fallen to 36 from 42 a year ago. And the trend > > is continuing? > > China is not a normal market as the government dictates what people use and > how they use it. People's weibo IDs are used to access government services. yet messaging is still more prevalent than texting there. > Outside of cities in most countries Wi-Fi and mobile data are rarer so chat > apps are unusable. nonsense.
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 06:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pt2qsv$u4t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57691 |
Am 20.11.18 um 13:40 schrieb Chris: > This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant > messaging via apps. Usenet is not a forum. But you will hardly ever understand the difference because you just want to have the last word all the time at any price.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 08:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt34hf$a9f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57711 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 20.11.18 um 13:40 schrieb Chris: >> This is an open forum which is searchable. Not at all the same as instant >> messaging via apps. > > Usenet is not a forum. You need to revisit the definition of a forum. Usenet is most definitely a forum. > But you will hardly ever understand the > difference because you just want to have the last word all the time at > any price. Ha! From the guy who stated "EOD" in his last post. The irony. Seeing as you've stopped discussing the actual point then it's definitely EOD
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