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| Started by | K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> |
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| First post | 2018-11-08 10:52 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-17 10:30 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 170 — 15 participants |
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8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-08 10:52 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:11 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-08 22:31 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-09 17:07 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-10 02:36 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 11:34 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-11 11:47 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:23 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 12:37 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 19:19 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:34 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 07:53 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 08:11 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 12:22 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 14:02 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:01 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:51 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:05 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 12:39 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:02 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:16 +0100
[OT] Ping: Piet (was: 8MB sms pic) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-16 09:46 +0100
Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 11:50 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:19 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:20 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:21 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:44 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:21 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:17 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:32 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 20:47 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-11 23:40 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 19:02 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 19:07 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:28 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:21 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:25 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:39 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:11 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:40 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:50 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:13 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 10:26 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 11:43 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 12:06 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:28 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 10:17 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:46 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:37 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:40 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 16:06 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:14 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:16 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:41 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:48 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:36 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:32 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:30 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:12 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:51 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:22 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:54 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:06 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 20:26 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:40 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 21:23 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:32 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 22:21 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:50 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:02 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:34 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:32 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:43 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:54 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 18:31 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 19:16 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:24 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:31 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 17:28 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 18:47 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:00 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:53 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 15:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:03 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:40 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:27 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 14:51 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:11 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:47 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:43 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 01:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 11:24 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 10:32 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:48 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 18:05 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 15:03 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:23 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 11:40 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:46 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-13 06:35 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:17 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:37 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:57 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:59 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:38 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:06 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:04 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 10:54 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-13 06:59 -0600
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:11 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:37 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:19 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2018-11-09 11:48 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-17 10:30 -0500
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 19:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdcht$o4q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57424 |
On 11/12/2018 6:25 PM, nospam wrote: > Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >> It's not (only) for "credentials of forgotten logins". 123456789 >> mentioned quite different use for SMS, for which there is no >> practical general alternative yet. > there definitely is a very practical alternative, one which is also > significantly more secure *and* works offline. If MY vendors only alert by SMS then there is NO alternative. It's kinda like Facebook. If my family only uses it I have no alternative. Course I could give up SMS alerts and Facebook photos but that's not a reasonable choice for me. YMMV.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <121120182142286742%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57430 |
In article <psdcht$o4q$1@dont-email.me>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > >> It's not (only) for "credentials of forgotten logins". 123456789 > >> mentioned quite different use for SMS, for which there is no > >> practical general alternative yet. > > > there definitely is a very practical alternative, one which is also > > significantly more secure *and* works offline. > > If MY vendors only alert by SMS then there is NO alternative. yes there is. choose vendors that take security seriously. > It's kinda > like Facebook. If my family only uses it I have no alternative. Course > I could give up SMS alerts and Facebook photos but that's not a > reasonable choice for me. YMMV. it does v.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 19:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdedj$t5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57431 |
On 11/12/2018 6:42 PM, nospam wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: >> If MY vendors only alert by SMS then there is NO alternative. > yes there is. choose vendors that take security seriously. Change doctors because appointment reminders are by SMS? Snigger...
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 22:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <121120182206273050%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57432 |
In article <psdedj$t5$1@dont-email.me>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > >> If MY vendors only alert by SMS then there is NO alternative. > > > yes there is. choose vendors that take security seriously. > > Change doctors because appointment reminders are by SMS? Snigger... sms is a *horrible* method of appointment reminders. what do they do for people without a mobile phone, or who disable sms? reminders here are either voice calls (often automated) and/or paper mail. another option is email, which is likely how they send sms, via a gateway. if you mark your calendar (paper or app) there is no need for an additional reminder. there's your alternative.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 20:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdg9k$4st$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57433 |
On 11/12/2018 7:06 PM, nospam wrote: > sms is a *horrible* method of appointment reminders. I think it is a big improvement over the past. > what do they do for people without a mobile phone They call their landline. > or who disable sms? Only geeks do that. Normal people don't know how. > reminders here are either voice calls (often automated) The old way (here) was the office called the landline. If you weren't home they left a message. You had to call back to verify you'd be there or lose the spot. Just answering yes on the SMS alert is sooooo much easier (IMO). > and/or paper mail. Never had that here ever. > another option is email, That could work. They send my co-pay receipts by email. > if you mark your calendar (paper or app) there is no need for an > additional reminder. there's your alternative. That'd be OK by me. But the docs here are busy and REQUIRE the confirmation. My guess is that lots of old people are forgetful... ;)
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 22:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <121120182240074233%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57434 |
In article <psdg9k$4st$1@dont-email.me>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > > sms is a *horrible* method of appointment reminders. > > I think it is a big improvement over the past. i don't. > > what do they do for people without a mobile phone > > They call their landline. there's your alternative, and a more reliable one at that. > > or who disable sms? > > Only geeks do that. not true. > Normal people don't know how. yes they do. it's usually a checkbox or menu on the web site when choosing a plan, or they just call in and ask for it to be disabled. normal people often disable sms because there is a lot of spam, it's often cheaper with it disabled and they use one of the many alternative messaging apps anyway. does your doc support facebook messenger, whatsapp, signal, viber and the rest? thought not. > > reminders here are either voice calls (often automated) > > The old way (here) was the office called the landline. If you weren't > home they left a message. You had to call back to verify you'd be there > or lose the spot. here, they call and leave a message, which is assumed to be confirmed since you pay whether or not you show up, unless you cancel at least 24-48 hours in advance (depending on doc). the confirmation calls are usually within that window, so it's a bit late to cancel...
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 21:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdjji$1ehd$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57435 |
On 11/12/2018 7:40 PM, nospam wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: >>> sms is a *horrible* method of appointment reminders. >>> what do they do for people without a mobile phone >> >> They call their landline. > there's your alternative, Are you really suggesting I change my super easy to use SMS doctor reminder system because some hack might intercept my SMS message and get my super secret doctor's appointment info? > and a more reliable one at that. More reliable than my VoIP landline? Not likely. More reliable than my cordless answering machine? Not likely squared. > normal people often disable sms because there is a lot of spam, Guess it depends on the service. I haven't got SMS spam in weeks. > it's often cheaper with it disabled and they use one of the many > alternative messaging apps anyway. Guess it depends on the service. I have unlimited text. Spam, when it comes, is "free"... > does your doc support facebook messenger, whatsapp, signal, viber and > the rest? thought not. Nope. Why should he. Most everyone is mobile these days and SMS is pretty universal. > you pay whether or not you show up, unless you cancel at least 24-48 > hours in advance (depending on doc). My co-pay is $15 US per visit which I imagine I might lose if I failed to show. However the doc would lose much more when my insurance doesn't pay. So I imagine that's why the required reminder and loss of spot with no confirmation.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 23:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <121120182332080131%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57436 |
In article <psdjji$1ehd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > and a more reliable one at that. > > More reliable than my VoIP landline? Not likely. More reliable than my > cordless answering machine? Not likely squared. sms is not guaranteed delivery, making voip more reliable, and who uses answering machines anymore? if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail, optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a cellphone.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 22:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdn1n$1iud$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57437 |
On 11/12/2018 9:32 PM, nospam wrote: > sms is not guaranteed delivery Neither is VoIP. > making voip more reliable, Not my VoIP. It goes out occasionally. Sometimes to upgrade the modem, sometimes for no reason. Definitely (IMO) not as reliable as my mobile which I've not caught out of service in recent memory. I came close to doing away with the landline again this year but customer retention gave me such a deal... Maybe next year... > and who uses answering machines anymore? Me. It came with the cordless phone system. > if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail, The answering machine does the same and can likewise be remotely accessed by outside phones. > optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a > cellphone. I have that capability but don't use it.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 00:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <131120180050382719%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57445 |
In article <psdn1n$1iud$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > > sms is not guaranteed delivery > > Neither is VoIP. nothing is 100%, but it's more reliable than sms since it doesn't use rf, and in the unlikely event internet connectivity is impacted, calls will roll to voicemail. > > making voip more reliable, > > Not my VoIP. It goes out occasionally. Sometimes to upgrade the modem, > sometimes for no reason. modem? all you need is a voip phone or an ata on your local lan, which you can upgrade at your own convenience, not theirs, or not upgrade it at all. > Definitely (IMO) not as reliable as my mobile > which I've not caught out of service in recent memory. get a better voip provider. sms goes out too, but even when it's active, delivery is not guaranteed. and sms very definitely goes out: <https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/comments/8lbtcq/text_messaging_is_no t_working/dzecni3/> <https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/7hqdle/tmobile_sms_outage_in_ all_markets/> <https://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2018/09/verizon_wireless_outag es.html> > I came close to > doing away with the landline again this year but customer retention gave > me such a deal... Maybe next year... i ditched landline long ago. for me, voip is about 1/50th the cost and does a *lot* more. porting was a breeze. > > and who uses answering machines anymore? > > Me. It came with the cordless phone system. > > > if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail, > > The answering machine does the same and can likewise be remotely > accessed by outside phones. my voip system emails a sound file, or i can call in to listen to them. or, i can use my portable voip phone on wifi...
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pseq03$44k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57446 |
On 11/12/2018 10:50 PM, nospam wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: >>> sms is not guaranteed delivery >> >> Neither is VoIP. > nothing is 100%, but it's more reliable than sms since it doesn't use > rf, RF or wire, the medium matters not. Wires and towers can come down. Usually it's the electronics that fails. > and in the unlikely event internet connectivity is impacted, calls > will roll to voicemail. If a cell connection fails SMS is saved and sent later. > modem? all you need is a voip phone or an ata on your local lan, which > you can upgrade at your own convenience, not theirs, or not upgrade it > at all. My modem is a combo phone/internet. There is no extra charge for using the providers modem and letting them upgrade/replace it when necessary. > sms goes out too, but even when it's active, delivery is not guaranteed. And the doctor's office could dial the wrong phone number. Shit happens. > i ditched landline long ago. for me, voip is about 1/50th the cost and > does a *lot* more. porting was a breeze. We're both damn glad you're not me... >> The answering machine does the same and can likewise be remotely >> accessed by outside phones. > > my voip system emails a sound file, Got me there. I just jot down the number to call back. > or i can call in to listen to them. My answering machine has that capability also. > or, i can use my portable voip phone on wifi... I'm more normal. I just use my cell when out... ;)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 19:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g50htpFl9n9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57478 |
On 13/11/2018 16.18, 123456789 wrote:
> On 11/12/2018 10:50 PM, nospam wrote:
>> 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote:
>
>>>> sms is not guaranteed delivery
>>>
>>> Neither is VoIP.
>
>> nothing is 100%, but it's more reliable than sms since it doesn't use
>> rf,
>
> RF or wire, the medium matters not. Wires and towers can come down.
> Usually it's the electronics that fails.
More probably the software.
>
>> and in the unlikely event internet connectivity is impacted, calls
>> will roll to voicemail.
>
> If a cell connection fails SMS is saved and sent later.
>
>> modem? all you need is a voip phone or an ata on your local lan, which
>> you can upgrade at your own convenience, not theirs, or not upgrade it
>> at all.
>
> My modem is a combo phone/internet. There is no extra charge for using
> the providers modem and letting them upgrade/replace it when necessary.
And in actual fact, mine is not user replaceable, because for one, they
don't publish the specs, the needed configuration. A configuration they
can change remotely any time, as a further complication. If I replace
the router and they try and can not change the config, and I lose
service, it is my fault.
>
>> sms goes out too, but even when it's active, delivery is not guaranteed.
>
> And the doctor's office could dial the wrong phone number. Shit happens.
Yep.
>
>> i ditched landline long ago. for me, voip is about 1/50th the cost and
>> does a *lot* more. porting was a breeze.
>
> We're both damn glad you're not me...
Oh, I would love to use VoIp. I know my ISP does VoIp, then converts it
to POTs emulation inside my home. But they do not disclose the
credentials or config to setup VoIp. Some people do, hacking the setup
and publishing the details somewhere. Then the company changes something
and it stops working. Cat and mouse.
I could just forward the calls anywhere for free. I could set a robotic
answering machine. A zillion things. No such luck - if I want to keep my
number, a number by which my family, my relatives, my friends, my
unknowns, can call me since half a century (well, they called my
parents, I inherited it), so I'm not keen on changing it.
>
>>> The answering machine does the same and can likewise be remotely
>>> accessed by outside phones.
>>
>> my voip system emails a sound file,
>
> Got me there. I just jot down the number to call back.
>
>> or i can call in to listen to them.
>
> My answering machine has that capability also.
>
>> or, i can use my portable voip phone on wifi...
>
> I'm more normal. I just use my cell when out... ;)
>
>
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 09:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g4vgahFe0r9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57445 |
On 13/11/2018 06.21, 123456789 wrote:
> On 11/12/2018 9:32 PM, nospam wrote:
>
>> sms is not guaranteed delivery
>
> Neither is VoIP.
>
>> making voip more reliable,
>
> Not my VoIP. It goes out occasionally. Sometimes to upgrade the modem,
> sometimes for no reason. Definitely (IMO) not as reliable as my mobile
> which I've not caught out of service in recent memory.
Same here, except that it emulates POT, they don't give us the
credentials to use VoIP. Sometimes it resets, any time of the day, and
stays out for minutes.
> I came close to
> doing away with the landline again this year but customer retention gave
> me such a deal... Maybe next year...
One landline provider now offers internet without phone. If we ask.
>
>> and who uses answering machines anymore?
>
> Me. It came with the cordless phone system.
I have the old answering machine from the old times. It went back into
service for some time when they started charging for the service.
>
>> if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail,
>
> The answering machine does the same and can likewise be remotely
> accessed by outside phones.
>
>> optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a
>> cellphone.
>
> I have that capability but don't use it.
Costs extra.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pseq0a$44k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57453 |
On 11/13/2018 1:29 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > One landline provider now offers internet without phone. If we ask. I have a choice of 2 providers. One twisted pair DSL/satellite and the other cable Internet/TV/phone. Either can be split into separate services. They both have "deals" and I have to call in every year to get the best one. I usually stick with the cable Internet because DSL is so slow. > I have the old answering machine from the old times. It went back > into service for some time when they started charging for the > service. My landline Voicemail is "free" (included). It's just easier to come home, push ONE button on the answering machine, and listen to the calls on a SPEAKER while jotting down numbers. No dialing number/codes necessary, though my answering machine has that capability if I want to check my messages when out and about.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 08:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g4vcmfFd5vsU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57437 |
On 13/11/2018 05.32, nospam wrote:
> In article <psdjji$1ehd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> and a more reliable one at that.
>>
>> More reliable than my VoIP landline? Not likely. More reliable than my
>> cordless answering machine? Not likely squared.
>
> sms is not guaranteed delivery, making voip more reliable, and who uses
> answering machines anymore? if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail,
> optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a
> cellphone.
I have seen several people going back to answering machine because
otherwise they are charged money for the automated system.
Other people just disable it, like me.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 23:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <121120182334157769%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57436 |
In article <psdjji$1ehd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > > and a more reliable one at that. > > More reliable than my VoIP landline? Not likely. More reliable than my > cordless answering machine? Not likely squared. sms is not guaranteed delivery, making voip more reliable, and who uses answering machines anymore? if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail, optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a cellphone.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 09:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g4vghqFe0r9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57438 |
On 13/11/2018 05.34, nospam wrote:
> In article <psdjji$1ehd$1@gioia.aioe.org>, 123456789 <12345@12345.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> and a more reliable one at that.
>>
>> More reliable than my VoIP landline? Not likely. More reliable than my
>> cordless answering machine? Not likely squared.
>
> sms is not guaranteed delivery, making voip more reliable, and who uses
> answering machines anymore? if you're not home, it rolls to voicemail,
> optionally forwarding to one or more alternate numbers, such as a
> cellphone.
>
No VoIP providers here. If you want fibre, it comes with landline, want
it or not. Yes, it is VoIP inside, but they don't give the credentials
and change the system anyway when hackers publish the working details,
so that we can not use it.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 09:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <131120180908142959%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57454 |
In article <g4vghqFe0r9U2@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > No VoIP providers here. if you have internet access, which you obviously do, you have voip providers.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 15:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g50686FikcoU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57469 |
On 13/11/2018 15.08, nospam wrote:
> In article <g4vghqFe0r9U2@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> No VoIP providers here.
>
> if you have internet access, which you obviously do, you have voip
> providers.
>
Nope. Not locally, that is, with local phone numbers.
The phone companies obviously use VoIP, but they do it in a way that we
can not access it, and give use the traditional service instead, with
traditional tarification.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 09:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <131120180954239136%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57473 |
In article <g50686FikcoU4@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> No VoIP providers here. > > > > if you have internet access, which you obviously do, you have voip > > providers. > > Nope. Not locally, that is, with local phone numbers. yes with local numbers. > The phone companies obviously use VoIP, but they do it in a way that we > can not access it, and give use the traditional service instead, with > traditional tarification. use an independent voip provider. here's a list: <https://www.voip-catalog.com/voip_countries_spain_1.html> <http://www.voipproviderslist.com/country/voip-spain/voip-providers-spai n/>
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