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Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?

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  Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-09 02:25 +0000
    Re:Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-09 04:43 +0200
      Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-09 02:55 +0000
        Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-09 05:46 +0200
          Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-09 04:11 +0000
            Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:21 +0200
              Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 17:59 +0000
                Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-09 19:37 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:55 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-09 20:07 +0000
                      Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-10 17:53 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-10 21:56 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-11 09:58 +0200
                          Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:18 +0000
                            Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 16:31 +0000
                              Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 17:42 +0000
                                Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 18:19 +0000
                                  Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 18:53 +0000
                                    Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-11 20:25 +0000
                                      Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-12 10:55 +0000
                                        Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-13 04:58 +0000
                                          Re: Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 13:45 +0000

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#56399 — Is there a single online app or service that you need on Android, that you can't get, for free?

Is there a single online app or service that I need on Android, that I
can't get, for free, simply by being intelligent about it?

I can't even think of a single online service that I need that I would pay
for that I can't already get, for free, sans paying for it if I use a
modicum of judicious intelligence.

Can you?

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#56403

 Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> Wrote in message:
> Is there a single online app or service that I need on Android, that I
> can't get, for free, simply by being intelligent about it?
> 
> I can't even think of a single online service that I need that I would pay
> for that I can't already get, for free, sans paying for it if I use a
> modicum of judicious intelligence.
> 
> Can you?
> 
This is not a first discussion about this topic, and, considering
 the  style,  it nsy have been even yours......  The last time it
 ended almost by a flame war.

Consider also donationware and free/paid combo, where paid
 version, aside of extra features
serves as the developer support. 

The answer very depends on what one considers by "need".

In one extreme, you need not a smartphone.

In other extreme, you may need application, that has free
 alternatives, but you like  your  one so much, or are used to it
 so much, you do not want any else.

Also, some people may consider the a free one as alternative, 
 while others do not, as they do not agree ona particular feature
 to  be essential or not.

I am afraid that as a general discussion, or as discussion about a
 particular application and personal preferences may lead nowhere
 but to flame arguments.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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#56404

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 04:43:39 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:

> I am afraid that as a general discussion, or as discussion about a
>  particular application and personal preferences may lead nowhere
>  but to flame arguments.

I think the point is that for "privacy", you need to stay away from
"accounts", where the need to "pay" for things, removes a critical level of
anonymity.

If there is something that can't be gotten for free, it should be listed
here, where I posit most people pay for convenience, but not functionality.

1. For example, you can pay for You Tube Red, or, if you're intelligent,
you can likely get that functionality for free.
2. As another example, you can pay for an offline map routing app, or, if
you're intelligent, you can likely get that functionality for free.
3. As just one more example, you can pay for a given number of GB of
storage online, or, if you're intelligent, you can likely get that
functionality for free.

The only things I ever need to pay for, are those things that I can't get
for free - where - I don't need to pay for anything on a smart phone other
than my cellular service & the phone itself.

For example, I use a free VPN, a free email client, a free storage
mechanism, a free offline map setup, a free online traffic setup, a free
app backup mechanism, a free second, third, and fourth phone number, a free
voip, a free file editor, a free file manager, a free video downloader, a
free audio extractor, a free audio recorder, a free camera app, a free
video player, a free ringtone maker, a free privacy browser, a free network
manager, a free cellular scanner, a free fm radio receiver app, a free
police scanner, a free app launcher, etc.

Q: Can someone _pay_ for any or all of that functionality?
A: Sure. 

But if they're intelligent about it, they can get all that functionality, 
for free.

Given that I posit anyone intelligent can find free functionality to do
almost anything they need to do, I openly question whether there is
_anything_ you can't get for free if you're intelligent about it, that you
would likely need, that is related to a smartphone functionality.

If there's something that's generally useful, that you can't get for free,
this is the place to list whatever that functionality is.

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#56405

 Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> Wrote in message:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 04:43:39 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:
> 

> I think the point is that for "privacy", you need to stay away from
> "accounts", where the need to "pay" for things, removes a critical level of
> anonymity.

For privacy, it is better to stay away from smartphones.

> If there is something that can't be gotten for free, it should be listed
> here, where I posit most people pay for convenience, but not functionality.

The idea a free app save you from lose a privacy level is  an illusion.

Many free apps are free as it strips your privacy level, touching
 privacy data in more serious ways then exposing yourself by
 application oayment.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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#56406

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 05:46:28 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:

> Many free apps are free as it strips your privacy level, touching
>  privacy data in more serious ways then exposing yourself by
>  application oayment.

I'm done with your childish drivel, Libor Striz. 
o You are either an adult who has technical value to contribute;
o Or, you are a child that can only play worthless childish games.
Pick one.

Please don't post to this thread unless you can act like an adult.

Specifically, try hard to be an adult and read the topic and then
comprehend the topic, and only after that, please do list any common
Android functionality that people need that can't be gotten for free.

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#56409

 Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> Wrote in message:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 05:46:28 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:
> 
>> Many free apps are free as it strips your privacy level, touching
>>  privacy data in more serious ways then exposing yourself by
>>  application oayment.
> 
> I'm done with your childish drivel, Libor Striz. 
> o You are either an adult who has technical value to contribute;
> o Or, you are a child that can only play worthless childish games.
> Pick one.
> 
> Please don't post to this thread unless you can act like an adult.

Well, this apply to yourself in the first place.  You cannot
 withstand people with different point of view to the
 topic.

I am 53, graduated in analytical chemistry. 


-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

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#56425

Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@capitalsgmail.com> wrote:
>  Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> Wrote in message:
> > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 05:46:28 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:
> > 
> >> Many free apps are free as it strips your privacy level, touching
> >>  privacy data in more serious ways then exposing yourself by
> >>  application oayment.
> > 
> > I'm done with your childish drivel, Libor Striz. 
> > o You are either an adult who has technical value to contribute;
> > o Or, you are a child that can only play worthless childish games.
> > Pick one.
> > 
> > Please don't post to this thread unless you can act like an adult.
> 
> Well, this apply to yourself in the first place.  You cannot
>  withstand people with different point of view to the
>  topic.

  As usual, it took only a few exchanges for 'Arlen' to start with his
dodging, diverting and insulting, didn't it!?

  He can indeed not handle it if anyone doesn't - completely - share his
'unusual' viewpoints or/and doesn't bow down to him in utter devotion.

  He's always the first to utter silly 'challenges', but dodges any and
all challenges put to him.

  Most specifically *this* challenge:
  
  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

> I am 53, graduated in analytical chemistry. 

  'Arlen' OTOH, has academic degrees in patheticness, dishonesty, lying,
ignorance, cluelessness, clue-resistance, stupidity, obnoxiousness,
pompousness, chest-thumping, nymshifting, twattery, paranoia and is
apparently 3 years old.

> "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."

  False. Proof: The OP.

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#56432

On 9 Oct 2018 17:59:58 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   As usual, it took only a few exchanges for 'Arlen' to start with his
> dodging, diverting and insulting, didn't it!?

It's clear, Frank, that you don't have an on topic answer to the question.

Why is it always, with you Frank, that you can't comprehend a simple topic?

You, Frank Slootweg, prove to be the vermin that ruin the Usenet picnic.

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#56433

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

[Dodges and diversions deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
 *any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
 (think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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#56434

On 9 Oct 2018 19:55:15 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> [Dodges and diversions deleted.]

*That you can't comprehend the topic, Frank Slootweg, is clear.*

What's not clear is why you can't comprehend any topic on this ng:
a. Are you really _that_ stupid, Frank Slootweg?
b. Or, are you just playing your silly childish games?
Pick one.

*Everything you write, Frank Slootweg, _proves_ you are a child.*

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#56472

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

[Dodges and diversions deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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#56477

On 10 Oct 2018 17:53:00 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

Every time you post, Frank Slootweg, you _prove_ you can't stay on topic.

Read the subject line, Frank Slooweg. Read it. Read it again, Frank.

If you can't comprehend even the _simplest_ of subject lines Frank...
a. Either you're really _that_ stupid, or, 
b. You're just playing silly childish games.
*Pick one*

-- 
HINT: Every single time Frank Slootweg posts, he _proves_ he's a child.

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#56485

Arlen Holder wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]
> 
> Every time you post, Frank Slootweg, you _prove_ you can't stay on topic.
> 
> Read the subject line, Frank Slooweg. Read it. Read it again, Frank.
> 
> If you can't comprehend even the _simplest_ of subject lines Frank...
> a. Either you're really _that_ stupid, or, 
> b. You're just playing silly childish games.
> *Pick one*
> 
> HINT: Every single time Frank Slootweg posts, he _proves_ he's a child.

*PLONK*

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#56499

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

[Dodges and diversions deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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#56506

On 11 Oct 2018 13:18:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

Every post from you Frank Slootweg, is off topic & that of a child.

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#56512

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

[Dodges and diversions deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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#56514

On 11 Oct 2018 17:42:17 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

You prove in every post Frank Slootweg you can't comprehend the subject!

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#56515

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

[Dodge and diversion deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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#56522

On 11 Oct 2018 18:53:23 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

Frank Slootweg,

Every time you post your off topic drivel - you prove you're a child.

Read the subject.
*If you know absolutely _nothing_ about the subject - then don't post.*

If you continue to post your off-topic drivel, all you will accomplish is
proving that you are a little whiny bratty worthless child, Frank Slootweg.

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#56539

Arlen    Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> wrote:

['Arlen' *still* doesn't get it.]

[Dodges and diversions, i.e. logical fallacies, deleted.]

[Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:]

  'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with
*any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you
(think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite).

[Sounds of audience not holding their breath.]

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