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Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China

Started bysms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
First post2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
Last post2018-10-01 21:12 +0100
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  Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-13 21:23 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 01:46 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:39 -0700
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 17:27 -0400
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:09 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 19:27 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 23:56 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 18:08 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-16 21:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:16 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 02:20 +0000
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:37 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:59 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:45 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-15 09:08 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-15 12:16 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 20:43 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 13:02 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:41 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:22 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 18:38 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:09 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:14 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 18:08 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 22:46 +0000
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 16:23 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:22 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:25 +0000
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:32 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:43 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:29 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:16 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:41 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:45 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-26 11:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 10:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 20:04 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:57 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 00:26 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-20 17:39 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:46 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:22 -0700
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 15:08 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:42 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:18 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-19 17:24 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:11 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:03 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:59 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:31 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-23 17:26 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 20:53 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:31 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 10:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 13:20 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:58 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:19 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:47 -0700
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:57 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:48 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:02 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 10:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 15:15 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 20:18 -0700
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 09:41 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 13:44 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 17:28 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-29 10:16 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 17:32 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 21:01 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 09:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-30 10:59 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-08-31 12:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:32 -0400
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:41 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 07:06 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:18 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:04 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:33 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:48 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:51 +1000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 13:37 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:21 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 17:20 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 08:34 +1000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-02 08:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-02 08:23 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 09:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 10:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:12 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:11 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:06 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:59 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:28 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 14:20 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:07 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:02 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:34 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:09 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:12 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 16:28 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:36 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:28 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:31 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:24 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:15 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:50 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:14 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 07:23 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:18 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-31 09:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 13:43 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:53 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:38 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-31 17:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:20 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:11 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 11:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 13:38 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:53 +1000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 14:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:55 +1000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:18 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 10:49 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:57 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:35 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:30 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:04 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 20:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 21:13 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:02 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 13:33 +0100
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:04 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:09 -0400
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:15 +1000
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 19:26 +0000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:32 +1000
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-09-09 14:34 -0400
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-08 07:14 -0700
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:11 +1000
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 19:34 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 00:16 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Josh Nack" <klu098@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:25 +1000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:47 -0700
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 11:00 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 12:36 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:52 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:29 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:06 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 08:18 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:01 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-15 10:51 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:00 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:20 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:18 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:57 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-10-02 13:03 +0800
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:45 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:42 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 12:17 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:48 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 04:46 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Apd" <not@all.invalid> - 2018-10-01 21:12 +0100

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#54854

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-08-18 20:43 -0700
Message-ID<plap1v$bm5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54753
On 8/13/2018 7:20 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:

>> So I can leave a phone with my regular SIM card at home and bring
>> another phone with me. Calls and texts will be forwarded to Google
>> Voice. My Moto X4 has all the bands necessary for China (my Stylo 3 Plus
>> does not).
> 
> Bummer on the Styloe 3 Plus! That's my current phone!
> Good that you're checking bands.

What's really useful in Europe and Asia are dual-SIM phones. They're 
extremely common there, but not generally sold in the U.S., though 
BHPhoto sells a bunch of them.

The Samsung Galaxy A7 was ideal since it had two SIM slots, plus a 
MicroSD card slot, but the A8 now shares the second slot between a SIM 
card and a MicroSD card slot.

Apple is rumored to finally be releasing a dual-SIM iPhone for Europe 
and Asia 
<https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/30/ios-12-dual-sim-support-future-iphones/>:

"A component of the system responsible for the generation of diagnostic 
reports includes new references to “second SIM status” and a “second SIM 
tray status”. Another component references a “dual sim device”. Those 
references are clearly an indication that iOS is being updated to run in 
a future device with support for two SIM cards, as seen in the 
screenshot below. The mention of a “second sim tray” indicates it would 
in fact have two physical SIM cards instead of a regular one and an 
e-SIM as the second.

A dual-SIM card option for the larger iPhone model would allow users to 
switch between different carrier plans without having to swap out SIM 
cards. The feature is also important for European and Asian users who 
routinely visit multiple countries."

Apple has lost a lot of sales due to the lack of a dual-SIM model, and 
this would address that concern.

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#54880

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2018-08-19 13:02 +0000
Message-ID<slrnpniqk2.2c5q.g.kreme@jaka.lan>
In reply to#54854
In message <plap1v$bm5$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 8/13/2018 7:20 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:

>>> So I can leave a phone with my regular SIM card at home and bring
>>> another phone with me. Calls and texts will be forwarded to Google
>>> Voice. My Moto X4 has all the bands necessary for China (my Stylo 3 Plus
>>> does not).
>> 
>> Bummer on the Styloe 3 Plus! That's my current phone!
>> Good that you're checking bands.

> What's really useful in Europe and Asia are dual-SIM phones. They're 
> extremely common there, but not generally sold in the U.S., though 
> BHPhoto sells a bunch of them.

I have a number of friends in Europe and not a single one of them has
ever had (or wanted) a dual-sim phone. Nearly half of them have never
*heard* of a dual-sim phone being available in their countries.

I have friends in Thailand and Japan, who also have never had a dual-sim
phone.

It is a niche, and a very very small niche.

> Apple is rumored to finally be releasing a dual-SIM iPhone for Europe 
> and Asia 

Rumors are nothing but rumors. If Apple DOES do a dual SIM phone it will
almost certainly be unique to China.

> Apple has lost a lot of sales due to the lack of a dual-SIM model, and 
> this would address that concern.

Absurd bullshit.

-- 
Is a vegetarian permitted to eat animal crackers?

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#54888

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-19 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<plc32f$78a$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#54880
On 19 Aug 2018 13:02:58 GMT, Lewis wrote:

> I have a number of friends in Europe and not a single one of them has
> ever had (or wanted) a dual-sim phone. Nearly half of them have never
> *heard* of a dual-sim phone being available in their countries.

Hi sms,
I fully agree with you that a dual-SIM phone would be very useful.

Well-known Apple Apologists like Lewis can't fathom the utility - but -
remember - he's the type that would enthuse endlessly about a gold colored
iPhone - so anything Lewis says is just ignorant rubbish. 

For the Apple Apologists like Lewis, a phone is just a mere stylish toy.

What I do, to "approach" the usefulness of dual-SIM phones sans the dual
SIMs, is use the freeware line replicators, such as TextNow or Talkatone
(Sideline went to the dark side). 

Neither is anywhere nearly as nice as having a dual SIM though.

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#54896

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-08-19 14:22 -0700
Message-ID<plcn2b$idj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54888
On 8/19/2018 8:41 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:

<snip>

> Neither is anywhere nearly as nice as having a dual SIM though.

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/07/05/apple-iphone-new-iphone-x-x2-se2-x-plus-specs-design-release-date-price-cost/#121ced5c4598>

"While dual sim phones have been hugely popular in Asia for years, Apple 
has long resisted the pull until now. Kuo’s report says Apple will 
introduce dual-sim dual-standby (DSDS) functionality for the iPhone X 
Plus (no word on other models) allowing users to run two networks 
simultaneously.

For some, this will be a pointless feature but for many the option to 
keep work and home sims, or home and foreign sims when travelling, in 
the same phone could prove a deal maker."


However there are other reasons besides foreign travel for dual-SIM 
phones. Separating personal and business phone numbers, but carrying 
only one phone, would be really nice for a LOT of people in the U.S. as 
well. I know that my wife carries her work iPhone and her Android 
personal phone. That's two phones to keep charged and to hassle with, 
when if the one phone could have two SIMs she could pay for her personal 
line but still use the iPhone. I also have to carry two phones.

For my wife, she has a Verizon iPhone so the alleged Chinese dual-SIM 
iPhone would not be of much use even if she could get one.

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#54901

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-19 18:38 -0400
Message-ID<190820181838596932%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#54896
In article <plcn2b$idj$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> However there are other reasons besides foreign travel for dual-SIM 
> phones. Separating personal and business phone numbers, but carrying 
> only one phone, would be really nice for a LOT of people in the U.S. as 
> well.

physically separate work & personal phones are normally required, and
not just for phones either. 

combining both would mean personal apps could access work data and vice
versa, which would be bad. work phones are also normally managed by the
employer and the second sim slot would probably be disabled (or locked
to a second work-related sim).

the reality is that the best selling phones are single-sim. dual-sim
phones are a special use case and many phone makers do not make them,
including the google pixel.

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#54910

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
Message-ID<pld7mj$tiq$4@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#54901
On 19 Aug 2018 15:38:59 GMT, nospam wrote:

> combining both would mean personal apps could access work data and vice
> versa, which would be bad.

Since Android users are on this thread, it is important to note that the
newer Android versions have the ability to have various logins, much like
Windows computers do.

I have never tried this feature - so I can't say whether it would help keep
personal data and work data separate.

I will say it's a difficult task, as when I was working, the company
insisted on paying for not only the phone but also the phone bill, such
that they "controlled" the phone more so than I did.

They installed apps on it - where to this day - I have no idea what they
installed - but that was years ago and things are likely very different now
in terms of seeing and knowing what they did to "spy" on the employees.

In summary though, it _may_ be the case that the ability of Android to
allow multiple users can protect the data.

Do others have experience using Android's multiple login features?

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#54937

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-08-20 07:09 -0700
Message-ID<plei3e$s2d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54910
On 8/19/2018 7:06 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2018 15:38:59 GMT, nospam wrote:
> 
>> combining both would mean personal apps could access work data and vice
>> versa, which would be bad.
> 
> Since Android users are on this thread, it is important to note that the
> newer Android versions have the ability to have various logins, much like
> Windows computers do.

Yes, that is a key difference. On Android you can separate both the 
applications that each user has access to, as well as the data they can 
see. iOS does not have that capability, except for iPads that are 
enrolled in the Education Deployment Plan.

For a secure dual-SIM setup, you'd have to have corporate accounts be 
able to limit access to certain apps and data.

The current major use of dual-SIM card phones is for people that travel 
internationally and want to use a lower cost service in a foreign 
country, but still not miss calls or texts on their primary number.

"Back in the olden days," pre-SIM, many dumb phones had dual or 
multi-NAM capability. This was for users that wanted to combine home and 
work phone numbers on one phone, or have multiple numbers on one phone 
for some other reason, but all numbers had to be on the same carrier, 
and the same account at that carrier.

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#54938

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-20 10:14 -0400
Message-ID<200820181014203397%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#54937
In article <plei3e$s2d$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> The current major use of dual-SIM card phones is for people that travel 
> internationally and want to use a lower cost service in a foreign 
> country, but still not miss calls or texts on their primary number.

which would incur roaming charges, so no.

and they don't need a second sim to do that. simply turn off data
roaming and use wifi. calls and text will still work.

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#54950

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-20 15:56 +0000
Message-ID<pleob8$t8v$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#54938
On 20 Aug 2018 07:14:20 GMT, nospam wrote:

> which would incur roaming charges, so no.
> 
> and they don't need a second sim to do that. simply turn off data
> roaming and use wifi. calls and text will still work.

You always find the *worst* comparisons, nospam, to justify your thinking.

It's a key trait of you Apple Apologists to find the *worst* comparisons.

In the USA, I have no romaing chargers, and I travel to Europe every year,
and I don't incur _any_ roaming charges whatsoever there either, whether
for local cellular calls or USA cellular calls, in either direction.

All cellular calls to and from my phone over the local networks are at the
flat rate of 20 cents per minute while I'm in Europe (using my USA plan).

Any fool can easily find a lousy cellular plan that incurs roaming charges.
So, yet again, you can only cherry pick the *worst* setup to justify your
arguments.

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#54954

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
Message-ID<86rlndls426psdf1l8aim1pf2jjb0m0tvm@4ax.com>
In reply to#54938
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 10:14:20 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <plei3e$s2d$1@dont-email.me>, sms
><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The current major use of dual-SIM card phones is for people that travel 
>> internationally and want to use a lower cost service in a foreign 
>> country, but still not miss calls or texts on their primary number.
>
>which would incur roaming charges, so no.
>
>and they don't need a second sim to do that. simply turn off data
>roaming and use wifi. calls and text will still work.

We don't want to turn off data because we need network access wherever
we are. We don't want to wait until we can find a place with free
wifi.

And world travelers don't need someone who has probably never left his
home country telling us how we should muddle through with workarounds
that don't provide adequate solutions.
 

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#54964

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
Message-ID<200820181333230005%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#54954
In article <86rlndls426psdf1l8aim1pf2jjb0m0tvm@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> The current major use of dual-SIM card phones is for people that travel 
> >> internationally and want to use a lower cost service in a foreign 
> >> country, but still not miss calls or texts on their primary number.
> >
> >which would incur roaming charges, so no.
> >
> >and they don't need a second sim to do that. simply turn off data
> >roaming and use wifi. calls and text will still work.
> 
> We don't want to turn off data because we need network access wherever
> we are. 

i didn't say turn off data. i said turn off data *roaming* to avoid
roaming fees.

> We don't want to wait until we can find a place with free
> wifi.

what waiting? wifi is nearly everywhere.

about the only place it isn't is while driving, when you shouldn't be
using your phone anyway, and any navigation apps don't need wifi or
cellular.

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#54981

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
Message-ID<on8mndlp534njltvn0qk19knh5bgggfjhb@4ax.com>
In reply to#54964
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:33:23 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <86rlndls426psdf1l8aim1pf2jjb0m0tvm@4ax.com>, Chris in
>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> >> The current major use of dual-SIM card phones is for people that travel 
>> >> internationally and want to use a lower cost service in a foreign 
>> >> country, but still not miss calls or texts on their primary number.
>> >
>> >which would incur roaming charges, so no.
>> >
>> >and they don't need a second sim to do that. simply turn off data
>> >roaming and use wifi. calls and text will still work.
>> 
>> We don't want to turn off data because we need network access wherever
>> we are. 
>
>i didn't say turn off data. i said turn off data *roaming* to avoid
>roaming fees.
>
>> We don't want to wait until we can find a place with free
>> wifi.
>
>what waiting? wifi is nearly everywhere.

You need to get out and travel the world more, then you'll have a
better idea of reality outside of your own back yard.

Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, and
is limited to just a few metres from the service provider. Even then
many hotspots are password restricted and you wouldn't have ready
access to it. Wifi most certainly isn't "nearly everywhere" or
anything remotely close to it, especially in rural and residential
areas.

Serious users need "always on" internet connectivity and the only way
to achieve that is to have access to mobile data.

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#54985

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
Message-ID<200820181646094001%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#54981
In article <on8mndlp534njltvn0qk19knh5bgggfjhb@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> We don't want to wait until we can find a place with free
> >> wifi.
> >
> >what waiting? wifi is nearly everywhere.
> 
> You need to get out and travel the world more, then you'll have a
> better idea of reality outside of your own back yard.

you need to knock off the insults.

> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 

same with cellular.

covering all land areas is not necessary. if there are no people, there
is no point in offering coverage there.

where there are people, there is coverage.

> and
> is limited to just a few metres from the service provider. Even then
> many hotspots are password restricted and you wouldn't have ready
> access to it. Wifi most certainly isn't "nearly everywhere" or
> anything remotely close to it, especially in rural and residential
> areas.

actually, wifi is nearly everywhere, except in very remote locations
where there are few people, in which case it doesn't matter all that
much.

> Serious users need "always on" internet connectivity and the only way
> to achieve that is to have access to mobile data.

which does not require a dual sim device.

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#55017

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
Message-ID<uossndpucqlitqmbp2s67c287lsqq0dqnb@4ax.com>
In reply to#54985
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 16:46:09 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <on8mndlp534njltvn0qk19knh5bgggfjhb@4ax.com>, Chris in
>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> >> We don't want to wait until we can find a place with free
>> >> wifi.
>> >
>> >what waiting? wifi is nearly everywhere.
>> 
>> You need to get out and travel the world more, then you'll have a
>> better idea of reality outside of your own back yard.
>
>you need to knock off the insults.

It wasn't an insult, it was a genuine piece of advice. It's clear that
you have very limited experience of the world. I've noticed this on
many threads you get involved in. You make statements which may apply
for your own home area, but they don't hold true for most of the of
the rest of the world.

>> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
>
>same with cellular.

That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.

To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.

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#55021

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
Message-ID<plm99m$l3p$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55017
On 23 Aug 2018 01:59:15 GMT, Chris in Makati wrote:

> It wasn't an insult, it was a genuine piece of advice. It's clear that
> you have very limited experience of the world. I've noticed this on
> many threads you get involved in. You make statements which may apply
> for your own home area, but they don't hold true for most of the of
> the rest of the world.

What's clear is that nospam has a very black & white view of the world.
There is nospam's way, or the highway, so to speak.

Mostly his view is dead wrong (e.g., he constantly claims it's Android's
fault for everything bad about Apple and he constantly fabricates imaginary
functionality that simply doesn't exist).

Since even the monkey gets things right sometimes, even when he's right,
his lack of credibility means you have to doublecheck everything he says,
simply because his guesses are right so infrequently, that anything he says
is worthless - simply because it's all just a wild ass guess on his part.

>>> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
>>
>>same with cellular.
> 
> That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
> is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
> from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
> coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.
> 
> To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.

See above.
Nospam has a very black & white view of the world.

Facts such as the typically huge difference in coverage between WiFi and
Cellular, simply don't fit into nospam's imaginary belief system.

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#55022

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
Message-ID<230820181015208084%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55017
In article <uossndpucqlitqmbp2s67c287lsqq0dqnb@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
> >
> >same with cellular.
> 
> That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
> is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
> from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
> coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.
> 
> To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.

i'm not talking about a single transmitter, and wifi is more than 'a
few metres'.

cellular does not cover the entire land area of the world either, nor
does it need to. what matters is coverage where people actually are.

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#55027

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<plmjn1$5cv$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55022
On 23 Aug 2018 07:15:20 GMT, nospam wrote:

> i'm not talking about a single transmitter, and wifi is more than 'a
> few metres'.
> 
> cellular does not cover the entire land area of the world either, nor
> does it need to. what matters is coverage where people actually are.

What is so very consistent with Apple Apologists like nospam is that they
constantly are forced to *redefine* common definitions, simply so that they
can begin to defend their idiotic guesses. 

Since facts don't fit into nospam's imaginary belief system, he has to
resort to re-defining definitions, with specific distances and coverage
that fit his needs.

Every week, Apple Apologists like nospam & Jolly Roger hilariously redefine
common words, as they did last week with their own peculiar definition of
web domains being part of a cloud storage system such as iCloud is.

Only on the Apple newsgroups can Apple Apologists survive.
On other platform newsgroups, nospam gets his head handed to him.

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#55073

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-24 18:08 +0000
Message-ID<plphjc$8fp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55022
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <uossndpucqlitqmbp2s67c287lsqq0dqnb@4ax.com>, Chris in
> Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
>>> 
>>> same with cellular.
>> 
>> That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
>> is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
>> from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
>> coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.
>> 
>> To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.
> 
> i'm not talking about a single transmitter, and wifi is more than 'a
> few metres'.
> 
> cellular does not cover the entire land area of the world either, nor
> does it need to. what matters is coverage where people actually are.

Exactly. Even in urban areas Wi-Fi coverage is a fraction of mobile
networks. For example, In my home city, if I'm anywhere other than work or
home I have no Wi-Fi access while on the move or outside. If desperate I
could duck into a coffee shop to use their Wi-Fi, but that doesn't change
the overall disparity in coverage.

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#55082

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
Message-ID<240820181504173192%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55073
In article <plphjc$8fp$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >>>> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
> >>> 
> >>> same with cellular.
> >> 
> >> That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
> >> is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
> >> from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
> >> coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.
> >> 
> >> To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.
> > 
> > i'm not talking about a single transmitter, and wifi is more than 'a
> > few metres'.
> > 
> > cellular does not cover the entire land area of the world either, nor
> > does it need to. what matters is coverage where people actually are.
> 
> Exactly. Even in urban areas Wi-Fi coverage is a fraction of mobile
> networks. 

you need to get out more. 

public wifi is *very* common, *especially* in urban areas, but also
suburban and even rural. anywhere where people congregate is likely to
have public wifi.

> For example, In my home city, if I'm anywhere other than work or
> home I have no Wi-Fi access while on the move or outside. If desperate I
> could duck into a coffee shop to use their Wi-Fi, but that doesn't change
> the overall disparity in coverage.

just about every hotel/motel/airbnb/etc. as well as nearly all tourist
attractions, museums, etc. has wifi. most restaurants, coffeeshops,
shopping centres/malls/etc. and many individual stores has wifi.
airplanes, trains, cruise ships and even some subway systems has wifi.
libraries, colleges and universities also have public wifi, as do
hospitals and other medical and dental offices. there are also public
wifi networks in some cities and towns, for anyone in the area to use.

<https://transitwireless.com/public-wi-fi/>
  Transit Wireless has launched FREE Transit Wireless WiFi in all New
  York City underground subway stations. Enter a station and connect
  for one hour of free service as you travel from station-to-station.
  After the hour, simply sign in again for another hour of free
  service. Now you can surf the web, email, listen to music and stay
  connected while in transit.

new york city is a *very* popular destination for 'world travelers' as
well as residents.

there are even public wifi service providers, such as boingo:
<http://www.boingo.com>

about the only place where you won't have wifi is while driving*, which
isn't where you should be responding to sms messages or phone calls.

*even while driving, there may still be wifi, such as when stopped at a
red light near a public wifi network, or while driving through an area
where public wifi blankets the community. it only takes a few seconds
to automatically connect, ping various servers and get pending messages
or other notifications, so you don't necessarily even need to be
stopped.

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#55088

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Message-ID<upq0odl6q9c7c0mbias1te1vna4tki55a8@4ax.com>
In reply to#55082
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:04:17 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <plphjc$8fp$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> >>>> Wifi covers only a tiny proportion of the land area of the world, 
>> >>> 
>> >>> same with cellular.
>> >> 
>> >> That's one of the most ridiculous statements you've ever made. Wi-fi
>> >> is designed as a very localised service with a range of a few metres
>> >> from the access point. Mobile networks are designed to have wide area
>> >> coverage and the  signal can cover up to ten of kilometres.
>> >> 
>> >> To claim they have similar coverage is just nonsense.
>> > 
>> > i'm not talking about a single transmitter, and wifi is more than 'a
>> > few metres'.
>> > 
>> > cellular does not cover the entire land area of the world either, nor
>> > does it need to. what matters is coverage where people actually are.
>> 
>> Exactly. Even in urban areas Wi-Fi coverage is a fraction of mobile
>> networks. 
>
>you need to get out more. 
>
>public wifi is *very* common, *especially* in urban areas, but also
>suburban and even rural. anywhere where people congregate is likely to
>have public wifi.
>
>> For example, In my home city, if I'm anywhere other than work or
>> home I have no Wi-Fi access while on the move or outside. If desperate I
>> could duck into a coffee shop to use their Wi-Fi, but that doesn't change
>> the overall disparity in coverage.
>
>just about every hotel/motel/airbnb/etc. as well as nearly all tourist
>attractions, museums, etc. has wifi. most restaurants, coffeeshops,
>shopping centres/malls/etc. and many individual stores has wifi.
>airplanes, trains, cruise ships and even some subway systems has wifi.
>libraries, colleges and universities also have public wifi, as do
>hospitals and other medical and dental offices. there are also public
>wifi networks in some cities and towns, for anyone in the area to use.
>
><https://transitwireless.com/public-wi-fi/>
>  Transit Wireless has launched FREE Transit Wireless WiFi? in all New
>  York City underground subway stations. Enter a station and connect
>  for one hour of free service as you travel from station-to-station.
>  After the hour, simply sign in again for another hour of free
>  service. Now you can surf the web, email, listen to music and stay
>  connected while in transit.
>
>new york city is a *very* popular destination for 'world travelers' as
>well as residents.
>
>there are even public wifi service providers, such as boingo:
><http://www.boingo.com>
>
>about the only place where you won't have wifi is while driving*, which
>isn't where you should be responding to sms messages or phone calls.
>
>*even while driving, there may still be wifi, such as when stopped at a
>red light near a public wifi network, or while driving through an area
>where public wifi blankets the community. it only takes a few seconds
>to automatically connect, ping various servers and get pending messages
>or other notifications, so you don't necessarily even need to be
>stopped.

Even if every single one of those places you mentioned had wi-fi it
would still represent only a tiny fraction of the area that mobile
networks cover. You still don't understand the huge difference in the
range of a wi-fi signal compared to that of a mobile network.

Just to put some figures on it, A wi-fi signal typically has a maximum
range of about 100 metres, so the area covered would be about 31,415
sq metres

A mobile network signal would have a maximum range of 30 kilometres,
so it's coverage area would be 2,827,433,388 sq metres.

So a mobile network signal would have about 90,000 times as much
coverage as wi-fi.

I honestly have never heard anybody but you make this stupid claim
that wifi covers as much land area as the mobile networks do.

Please do try to understand this time.

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