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  How to *really* disable updates? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-09-28 19:49 +0100
    Re: How to *really* disable updates? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-09-28 20:09 +0100
      Re: How to *really* disable updates? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-28 15:39 -0400
        Re: How to *really* disable updates? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-28 23:14 +0200
          Re: How to *really* disable updates? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2016-09-28 23:48 +0200
            Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-29 20:05 +0200
              Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2016-09-29 20:07 +0200
                Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-29 22:36 +0200
                  Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2016-09-29 23:13 +0200
              Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-30 04:43 -0400
                Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-30 19:03 +0200
    Re: How to *really* disable updates? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-09-29 13:17 +0000
      Re: How to *really* disable updates? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-09-29 16:51 +0100
      Re: How to *really* disable updates? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-29 18:43 +0000
      Re: How to *really* disable updates? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:10 +0100
        Re: How to *really* disable updates? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-10-01 19:07 +0100
          Re: How to *really* disable updates? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-10-02 12:56 +0100
            Re: How to *really* disable updates? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2016-10-02 19:43 +0100
              Re: How to *really* disable updates? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2016-10-03 18:13 +0100

#34901 — How to *really* disable updates?

I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To
conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
that I don't use (most of them).

I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  

Is it possible to stop these updates?

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#34903

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To

limited memory - what on earth happened there?

> conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
> that I don't use (most of them).
> 
> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
> getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
> 
> Is it possible to stop these updates?
> 
> -- 
> Chris Green
> ·

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#34904

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:09:12 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

>  ,i,ited memory.  To
> 
> limited memory - what on earth happened there?

Check your keyboard -- the comma lies just under the L key, and just to the
right of the M key, so a slightly errant finger can easily hit it in error.

Forgive yourself, as we too forgive you :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
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#34910

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:39:22 -0400, tlvp wrote:

> Check your keyboard -- the comma lies just under the L key,

Not for everyone. Comma is under J and K.

> and just to the right of the M key

The N key. :-)

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#34911

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> schreef op Wo 28 Sep 2016 om 23:14:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:39:22 -0400, tlvp wrote:
> 
> > Check your keyboard -- the comma lies just under the L key,
> 
> Not for everyone. Comma is under J and K.
> 
> > and just to the right of the M key
> 
> The N key. :-)


You don't have a M key?

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#34929 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:48:45 +0200, BugHunter wrote:

> You don't have a M key?

Don't be daft. Do you think I used some website to copy and paste the
word "comma" ? Of course not.

There's no comma next to my M key. The key next to my M key is % ù ´
I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.

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#34930 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> schreef op Do 29 Sep 2016 om 20:05:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:48:45 +0200, BugHunter wrote:
> 
> > You don't have a M key?
> 
> Don't be daft. Do you think I used some website to copy and paste the
> word "comma" ? Of course not.
> 
> There's no comma next to my M key. The key next to my M key is % ù ´
> I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.


What a failure....  :-)

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#34938 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:07:18 +0200, BugHunter wrote:

> > There's no comma next to my M key. The key next to my M key is % ù ´
> > I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.

> What a failure....  :-)

I know. It shows that we Flemish are still oppressed by the Walloons.
Though I started with QWERTY with a Commodore 64, but somewhere along
the way I switched to AZERTY... (and I don't want to switch again :-)

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#34939 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> schreef op Do 29 Sep 2016 om 22:36:
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:07:18 +0200, BugHunter wrote:
> 
> > > There's no comma next to my M key. The key next to my M key is % ù ´
> > > I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.
> 
> > What a failure....  :-)
> 
> I know. It shows that we Flemish are still oppressed by the Walloons.
> Though I started with QWERTY with a Commodore 64, but somewhere along
> the way I switched to AZERTY... (and I don't want to switch again :-)


Okay, if you are happy with it.... I used
always QWERTY and don't want switch too.

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#34950 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:05:52 +0200, s|b wrote:

> I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.

And you disguised it very well :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
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#34960 — Re: How to *really* disable updates? [OT]

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:43:46 -0400, tlvp wrote:

> > I have an AZERTY keyboard, that was my point.
 
> And you disguised it very well :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

håhå (-:

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#34921

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To
> conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
> that I don't use (most of them).
> 
> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
> getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
> 
> Is it possible to stop these updates?

Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
apps you want.

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#34925

Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> 
> > I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To
> > conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
> > that I don't use (most of them).
> > 
> > I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
> > Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
> > getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
> > 
> > Is it possible to stop these updates?
> 
> Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
> apps you want.

Aha!  Thank you.  Maybe I'll get some peace from all those updates now!

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#34932

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:17:28 -0000 (UTC), Joe Beanfish wrote:

> Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
> apps you want.

I just checked and mine is set that way, so, here's the settings so that
others benefit:

Google Play > Hamburger > Settings > 
 Auto-update apps = Do not auto-update apps

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#34979

On 2016-09-29, Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
>
>> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To
>> conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
>> that I don't use (most of them).
>> 
>> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
>> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
>> getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
>> 
>> Is it possible to stop these updates?
>
> Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
> apps you want.

You can also 'disable' the apps you can't uninstall, which has the
effect of removing any updates already installed for them as well as
clearing an data storage used by them and stopping them from being
updated in future.  Use your phone's 'Settings - Application Manager' to
do this.

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#34981

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 2016-09-29, Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.  To
> >> conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in apps
> >> that I don't use (most of them).
> >> 
> >> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
> >> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still keep
> >> getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
> >> 
> >> Is it possible to stop these updates?
> >
> > Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
> > apps you want.
> 
> You can also 'disable' the apps you can't uninstall, which has the
> effect of removing any updates already installed for them as well as
> clearing an data storage used by them and stopping them from being
> updated in future.  Use your phone's 'Settings - Application Manager' to
> do this.
> 
This is where I (OP) came in!  :-)

Does 'disable' save any more space than just 'Uninstall Updates' and
clearing 'Show Notifications'?

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#34987

On 2016-10-01, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-29, Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.
>> >> To conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in
>> >> apps that I don't use (most of them).
>> >> 
>> >> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
>> >> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still
>> >> keep getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
>> >> 
>> >> Is it possible to stop these updates?
>> >
>> > Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
>> > apps you want.
>> 
>> You can also 'disable' the apps you can't uninstall, which has the
>> effect of removing any updates already installed for them as well as
>> clearing an data storage used by them and stopping them from being
>> updated in future.  Use your phone's 'Settings - Application Manager'
>> to do this.
>> 
> This is where I (OP) came in!  :-)
>
> Does 'disable' save any more space than just 'Uninstall Updates' and
> clearing 'Show Notifications'?

The key difference is that it stops that app from having any more
updates offered for it.  It also stops the app from being run.  It's the
next best thing to 'uninstall', for apps that you aren't allowed to
uninstall.  The 'disable' option appears in the user interface where
'uninstall' appears for normal apps.

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#34990

Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 2016-10-01, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> > Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2016-09-29, Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have a Motorola Moto E, it works fine but has ,i,ited memory.
> >> >> To conserve memory I want to disable updates on all the built-in
> >> >> apps that I don't use (most of them).
> >> >> 
> >> >> I've tried 'Uninstall Updates' followed by clearing 'Show
> >> >> Notifications' but it seems that these get overriden and I still
> >> >> keep getting downloads updating apps that I don't want updated.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> Is it possible to stop these updates?
> >> >
> >> > Turn off auto-updates globally in the play store. Then only update
> >> > apps you want.
> >> 
> >> You can also 'disable' the apps you can't uninstall, which has the
> >> effect of removing any updates already installed for them as well as
> >> clearing an data storage used by them and stopping them from being
> >> updated in future.  Use your phone's 'Settings - Application Manager'
> >> to do this.
> >> 
> > This is where I (OP) came in!  :-)
> >
> > Does 'disable' save any more space than just 'Uninstall Updates' and
> > clearing 'Show Notifications'?
> 
> The key difference is that it stops that app from having any more
> updates offered for it.  It also stops the app from being run.  It's the
> next best thing to 'uninstall', for apps that you aren't allowed to
> uninstall.  The 'disable' option appears in the user interface where
> 'uninstall' appears for normal apps.
> 
So what does 'Uninstall Updates' plus clearing 'Show Notifications' do?
I thought they'd do what you describe for 'disable'.  One would expect
'disable' to also prevent the app from being run.  When you uncheck
'Show Notifications' the warning message says you will miss updates so
I assumed that it would stop an app being updated.

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#34999

On 2016-10-02, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-01, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>> > Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2016-09-29, Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:49:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

[...]

>> > Does 'disable' save any more space than just 'Uninstall Updates' and
>> > clearing 'Show Notifications'?
>> 
>> The key difference is that it stops that app from having any more
>> updates offered for it.  It also stops the app from being run.  It's the
>> next best thing to 'uninstall', for apps that you aren't allowed to
>> uninstall.  The 'disable' option appears in the user interface where
>> 'uninstall' appears for normal apps.
>> 
> So what does 'Uninstall Updates' plus clearing 'Show Notifications' do?

What it says, I imagine.  Next time the app checks for updates it will
get them all, and won't tell you.

> I thought they'd do what you describe for 'disable'.  One would expect
> 'disable' to also prevent the app from being run.  When you uncheck
> 'Show Notifications' the warning message says you will miss updates so
> I assumed that it would stop an app being updated.

I'd assume you'd get the updates without notice.

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