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  back up factory reset Hannelore VB <hannelore@vb.net> - 2016-08-08 11:35 +0700
    Re: back up factory reset Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-08-08 07:38 +0100
    Re: back up factory reset Dave Doe <hard@work.ok> - 2016-08-08 22:34 +1200
      Re: back up factory reset Hannelore VB <hannelore@vb.net> - 2016-08-08 21:15 +0600
        Re: back up factory reset The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 08:56 -0700
          Re: back up factory reset Hannelore VB <hannelore@vb.net> - 2016-08-08 23:48 +0700
            Re: back up factory reset The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 14:01 -0700
              Re: back up factory reset Hannelore VB <hannelore@vb.net> - 2016-08-09 09:33 +0700
                Re: back up factory reset The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 20:37 -0700
                  Re: back up factory reset Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2016-08-24 09:34 -0800

#33197 — back up factory reset

need to do a factory reset
moved pictures and videos to sd card
wrote down names of programs installed
what else do I need to do to back up before factory reset?

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#33200

in 33399 20160808 053554 Hannelore VB <hannelore@vb.net> wrote:
>need to do a factory reset
>moved pictures and videos to sd card
>wrote down names of programs installed
>what else do I need to do to back up before factory reset?

Screenshots of your home screens

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#33207

In article <no92c0$c03$1@news.mixmin.net>, hannelore@vb.net, Hannelore 
VB says...
> 
> need to do a factory reset
> moved pictures and videos to sd card
> wrote down names of programs installed
> what else do I need to do to back up before factory reset?

In addition to Bob...

SMS (and call logs), backup?  Well if you need it, I use this app...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore

If your phone is well "cloudised", everything should come back nicely.

If you've ever changed your default Launcher, make a note of that too.  
And get that back on early, and things will start looking familiar 
quickly.

-- 
Duncan.

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#33214

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:34:34 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

> If you've ever changed your default Launcher, make a note of that too.  
> And get that back on early, and things will start looking familiar 
> quickly.

thank you

I screenshotted each of my desktop screens

then I saved everything I wanted to the sd card
mostly that was screenshots pictures videos and music
I did not need my sms messages or my mail
I backed up all the user installed app apks too
then I powered down & removed the sd card & sim card
then I ran the full factory reset

then I put back the sd card and sim card
first I found the default preinstalled file manager 
using that default file manager I found my apks
the first apk I brought back was my launcher
the next apk was a better file manager! LOL
one by one I installed all the old apks

then I put them back following the original screenshots

thank you!

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#33216

On 08/08/2016 08:15 AM, Hannelore VB wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:34:34 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:
>
>> If you've ever changed your default Launcher, make a note of that too.
>> And get that back on early, and things will start looking familiar
>> quickly.
>
> thank you
>
> I screenshotted each of my desktop screens
>
> then I saved everything I wanted to the sd card
> mostly that was screenshots pictures videos and music
> I did not need my sms messages or my mail
> I backed up all the user installed app apks too
> then I powered down & removed the sd card & sim card
> then I ran the full factory reset
>
> then I put back the sd card and sim card
> first I found the default preinstalled file manager
> using that default file manager I found my apks
> the first apk I brought back was my launcher
> the next apk was a better file manager! LOL
> one by one I installed all the old apks
>
> then I put them back following the original screenshots

BUT... what about configuring your apps?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    VISE GRIPS (VYS'-gripz) [n]  A tool used to transfer intense
    welding heat to the palm of the welder's hand.         -- DS

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#33218

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 08:56:18 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> BUT... what about configuring your apps?

good question
I did not think of that at all

thinking now about it
I don't think any apps are configured other than email

the email was set when they asked me for my google play account
so what else is there to configure?

I left the launcher at its defaults
I snapped a photo of the blue sky for a background

Everything works without configuration

the camera works without configuration
the music player works without configuration
the flashlight works without configuration
the sms works without configuration
the phone works without configuration
the maps work without configuration
the voice recorder works without configuration
the calculator works without configuration
even youtube works without configuration

what do I need to configure?

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#33225

On 08/08/2016 09:48 AM, Hannelore VB wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 08:56:18 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> BUT... what about configuring your apps?
>
> good question
> I did not think of that at all
>
> thinking now about it
> I don't think any apps are configured other than email
>
> the email was set when they asked me for my google play account
> so what else is there to configure?
>
> I left the launcher at its defaults
> I snapped a photo of the blue sky for a background
>
> Everything works without configuration
>
> the camera works without configuration
> the music player works without configuration
> the flashlight works without configuration
> the sms works without configuration
> the phone works without configuration
> the maps work without configuration
> the voice recorder works without configuration
> the calculator works without configuration
> even youtube works without configuration
>
> what do I need to configure?

Apparently nothing.

I have 4 email accounts, 2 mail programs, a number of logins for banks 
and other institutions, file locations, LOTS of options for my GPS apps, 
and that's enough to keep me going for half a day.   This stuff is NOT 
included in backups, and it's the most troublesome.

I've done three factory resets so far,  each was traumatic and I lost 
stuff that I valued.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
*********************************************************
Warning:  Objects in mirror appear smarter than they are.

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#33233

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:01:03 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> I have 4 email accounts, 2 mail programs, a number of logins for banks 
> and other institutions, file locations, LOTS of options for my GPS apps, 
> and that's enough to keep me going for half a day.   This stuff is NOT 
> included in backups, and it's the most troublesome.
> 
> I've done three factory resets so far,  each was traumatic and I lost 
> stuff that I valued.

you were right
this was my first factory reset
there are a lot of settings I didn't know about

I thought it would only be little things like setting up the wifi password
and the bluetooth pin but but each time I run any program I have to set it
up again

for example I manually imported the vcard.vcf I had saved to the sd card
that gave me back my contacts

then I set up a couple of the email accounts but they were easy
for wallpaper I took a picture of the sky

the android settings menu was something I went thru one by one

a bunch of paths needed to be set
for example I set the app apk automatic backup path to the sd card

I changed a few settings in the default browser
even MMS had to be set up for my carrier in the text app but that was easy

so the setup seems to be easy but each of about 50 to 100 programs needs it

the alarms had to be reset
the shortcuts to text files had to be made again from es file explorer
sideline seems to have lost its phone number so a setup file is missing
the voice recorder needed its path set for saving files to the sd card
i had to put a shortcut to text files in the browser and video directories

probably the worst setup hassle was that all the offline maps had to be 
downloaded again so I need to learn how to save them before resetting

for example I had to type "ok maps" in google a bunch of times just to 
download again the map tiles which I would have thought the app backup 
program would have saved but it did not

all the redirected files were lost so I had to figure out where to redirect 
the files again so that they are saved by the apps onto the main memory and 
then instantly moved to the sd card

so it was more traumatic than I thought it would be because each of the 50 
to 100 programs had to have its settings checked and reset and about 25 of 
the programs needed their data replenished

you would think the backup program would have saved all that ahead of time
but it did not save any of that stuff

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#33235

On 08/08/2016 07:33 PM, Hannelore VB wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:01:03 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> I have 4 email accounts, 2 mail programs, a number of logins for banks
>> and other institutions, file locations, LOTS of options for my GPS apps,
>> and that's enough to keep me going for half a day.   This stuff is NOT
>> included in backups, and it's the most troublesome.
>>
>> I've done three factory resets so far,  each was traumatic and I lost
>> stuff that I valued.
>
> you were right
> this was my first factory reset
> there are a lot of settings I didn't know about
>
> I thought it would only be little things like setting up the wifi password
> and the bluetooth pin but but each time I run any program I have to set it
> up again
>
> for example I manually imported the vcard.vcf I had saved to the sd card
> that gave me back my contacts
>
> then I set up a couple of the email accounts but they were easy
> for wallpaper I took a picture of the sky
>
> the android settings menu was something I went thru one by one
>
> a bunch of paths needed to be set
> for example I set the app apk automatic backup path to the sd card
>
> I changed a few settings in the default browser
> even MMS had to be set up for my carrier in the text app but that was easy
>
> so the setup seems to be easy but each of about 50 to 100 programs needs it
>
> the alarms had to be reset
> the shortcuts to text files had to be made again from es file explorer
> sideline seems to have lost its phone number so a setup file is missing
> the voice recorder needed its path set for saving files to the sd card
> i had to put a shortcut to text files in the browser and video directories
>
> probably the worst setup hassle was that all the offline maps had to be
> downloaded again so I need to learn how to save them before resetting
>
> for example I had to type "ok maps" in google a bunch of times just to
> download again the map tiles which I would have thought the app backup
> program would have saved but it did not
>
> all the redirected files were lost so I had to figure out where to redirect
> the files again so that they are saved by the apps onto the main memory and
> then instantly moved to the sd card
>
> so it was more traumatic than I thought it would be because each of the 50
> to 100 programs had to have its settings checked and reset and about 25 of
> the programs needed their data replenished
>
> you would think the backup program would have saved all that ahead of time
> but it did not save any of that stuff

This seems like a major defect in Android, and I was really shocked when 
I discovered it.  We ought to be able to mirror the entire installation 
to a computer subdirectory, and just feed all or parts of it back when 
needed.

I copy my entire linux partition to another one every couple of weeks, 
and if the one I'm using gets broken I can boot into a backup or restore 
broken files from the backup.  I haven't had to do that very often, but 
it's a nice way of upgrading my system -- run a backup, update the 
backup and play with it for a while to make sure everything is OK before 
using the original partition for a new backup.

Not enough space to do that on a phone, but running a complete backup to 
a computer surely ought to be possible.

-- 
Cheers,  Bev
   "I can't stand this proliferation of paperwork.   It's useless to
    fight the forms.  You've got to kill the people producing them."
                                              -- Vladimir Kabaidze

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#33607

The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/08/2016 07:33 PM, Hannelore VB wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:01:03 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> I have 4 email accounts, 2 mail programs, a number of logins for banks
>>> and other institutions, file locations, LOTS of options for my GPS apps,
>>> and that's enough to keep me going for half a day. This stuff is NOT
>>> included in backups, and it's the most troublesome.
>>>
>>> I've done three factory resets so far, each was traumatic and I lost
>>> stuff that I valued.
>>
>> you were right
>> this was my first factory reset
>> there are a lot of settings I didn't know about
>>
>> I thought it would only be little things like setting up the wifi
>> password
>> and the bluetooth pin but but each time I run any program I have to
>> set it
>> up again
>>
>> for example I manually imported the vcard.vcf I had saved to the sd card
>> that gave me back my contacts
>>
>> then I set up a couple of the email accounts but they were easy
>> for wallpaper I took a picture of the sky
>>
>> the android settings menu was something I went thru one by one
>>
>> a bunch of paths needed to be set
>> for example I set the app apk automatic backup path to the sd card
>>
>> I changed a few settings in the default browser
>> even MMS had to be set up for my carrier in the text app but that was
>> easy
>>
>> so the setup seems to be easy but each of about 50 to 100 programs
>> needs it
>>
>> the alarms had to be reset
>> the shortcuts to text files had to be made again from es file explorer
>> sideline seems to have lost its phone number so a setup file is missing
>> the voice recorder needed its path set for saving files to the sd card
>> i had to put a shortcut to text files in the browser and video
>> directories
>>
>> probably the worst setup hassle was that all the offline maps had to be
>> downloaded again so I need to learn how to save them before resetting
>>
>> for example I had to type "ok maps" in google a bunch of times just to
>> download again the map tiles which I would have thought the app backup
>> program would have saved but it did not
>>
>> all the redirected files were lost so I had to figure out where to
>> redirect
>> the files again so that they are saved by the apps onto the main
>> memory and
>> then instantly moved to the sd card
>>
>> so it was more traumatic than I thought it would be because each of
>> the 50
>> to 100 programs had to have its settings checked and reset and about
>> 25 of
>> the programs needed their data replenished
>>
>> you would think the backup program would have saved all that ahead of
>> time
>> but it did not save any of that stuff
>
> This seems like a major defect in Android, and I was really shocked when
> I discovered it. We ought to be able to mirror the entire installation
> to a computer subdirectory, and just feed all or parts of it back when
> needed.
>
> I copy my entire linux partition to another one every couple of weeks,
> and if the one I'm using gets broken I can boot into a backup or restore
> broken files from the backup. I haven't had to do that very often, but
> it's a nice way of upgrading my system -- run a backup, update the
> backup and play with it for a while to make sure everything is OK before
> using the original partition for a new backup.
>
> Not enough space to do that on a phone, but running a complete backup to
> a computer surely ought to be possible.
>
   "backup"....unless that was a COPY (_NOT_ "image), it cannot be used 
as-is. So if everything else gets trashed, you are SOL.

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