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Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike

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First post2016-07-12 21:46 +0000
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  Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-12 21:46 +0000
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Elias <elias@nowherenohow.com> - 2016-07-12 17:34 -0500
      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-07-13 13:45 +1200
        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-13 09:00 +0100
          Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-07-14 10:05 +1200
        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-13 09:15 +0100
          Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-13 04:51 -0400
            Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 18:52 +0000
              Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-13 15:08 -0400
                Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-13 20:28 +0100
                Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 22:29 +0000
              Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 21:18 +0000
                Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 18:16 -0400
                  Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:06 +0000
                    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:21 +0000
                      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:26 +0000
                      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 23:05 -0700
                        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-16 10:06 +0100
                        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-16 08:11 -0400
                        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 18:31 +0000
                  Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 09:38 -0400
                    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 09:59 -0400
                      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:14 +0000
                      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:14 +0000
                    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:10 +0000
                  Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:09 +0000
                Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-15 10:39 +0200
                  Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:18 +0000
                    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:25 -0400
                      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:35 +0000
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 01:55 -0400
      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 06:38 +0000
        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 06:46 +0000
          Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 04:33 -0400
            Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 18:24 +0000
              Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-13 14:41 -0400
          Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-13 04:51 -0400
            Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 18:54 +0000
        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 04:31 -0400
          Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 18:17 +0000
      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-13 10:33 -0400
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-13 08:58 +0100
      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 18:10 +0000
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-13 18:22 +1000
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-13 11:35 +0100
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Joe W DiDomenico <email@domain.com> - 2016-07-13 08:22 -0400
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-13 14:41 +0200
      Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 22:20 +0000
        Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-13 18:30 -0400
    Re: Question for Apple apologists & Android enthusiasts alike BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-13 17:35 -0500

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#31585

FromPAS <abc@doremi.net>
Date2016-07-13 10:33 -0400
Message-ID<nm5jf4$2lg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#31561
On 7/13/2016 1:55 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 2016-07-12 21:46:05 +0000, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> said:
>
>> The Apple apologists were extolling the virtues of living in the walled
>> garden in another thread, so, I snapped this picture moments ago of my
>> camera and spare equipment...
>> http://i.cubeupload.com/PYm9y5.jpg
>>
>> Regarding that equipment ask here two questions:
>> 1. What else did you add to your Android equipment?
>> 2. How would the Apple apologists do the same thing?
>>
>> The photo shows:
>> a. Samsung Galaxy S3
>> b. A spare back for each battery (3 backs in total)
>> c. Two normal-sized replacement batteries (2,300 mAh with NFC)
>> d. One large-sized replacement battery (7,000 mAh with NFC)
>> d. A spare charger for those batteries (with a spare USB output)
>> e. A waterproof USB tube camera with lights and on a 3-foot cable with a
>> switch
>>
>> I forget what the spare equipment and camera cost, but it was under 
>> $50 in
>> total as I recall.
>>
>> The question for Apple apologists is:
>> Q: How do you do that & how much does it cost you to do that?
>
> Answer:  we use our iPhones, we don't take pictures of them.
>
> Sorry if you need to modify your phone to get what you want... but 
> feel free to spend as much as you want.

My Blu Pure XL came with a host of accessories in addition to the fast 
charger and cable:

1.  Silicone case

2.  Folio case

3. Headphones

4.  OTG cable

5. Screen protector

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#31566

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2016-07-13 08:58 +0100
Message-ID<dumal8FslplU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31548
Aardvarks wrote:

> The question for Android enthusiasts is:
> Q: What else did you do for your Android equipment recently?

I've never purchased a case or extra battery for any of my Android 
devices, I've bought a couple of microSD cards, an OTG cable, various 
car holders/chargers and have thought about getting a borescope.

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#31589

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-13 18:10 +0000
Message-ID<nm6077$f5a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#31566
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:58:31 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> I've never purchased a case or extra battery for any of my Android 
> devices, I've bought a couple of microSD cards, an OTG cable, various 
> car holders/chargers and have thought about getting a borescope.

I have the original hard plastic casing, plus three much nicer rubber
casings shown in the previous photo, plus one full case (front and back),
which had a flip cover (like a book), which I didn't like (it got in the
way of the camera).

Luckily no case cost more than a buck or three.

I also have a bevy of microSD cards, simply because I use them as archival
media. In fact, I have so many 32GB microSD cards for this phone that at
one point I bought a 128GB card, but it kept corrupting the files even
though it was a brand name card. I think the S3 doesn't support 128GB so
that might have been the reason for the corruption, which stopped when I
replaced it with the current 32GB Sandisk card.

For the car, I usually use the 2-port cigarette adapters, each of which is
2.1 Amps (which used to be really difficult to find - but getting easier
over time).

Unfortunately, I've blown out three of them to date, each time when on a
long trip using map software with both the iPad and phone running
concurrently (bluetoothing to a visor-mount Motorola speakerphone). 

So, even though these Frys adapters 'say' they're concurrently 2.1 Amps,
apparently they're not. Luckily, they only cost about five bucks, and the
replacements are free so it only cost me five bucks and they work just fine
for years in all other conditions (I have them in the wife's car too and
she never blows hers up).

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#31570

FromGordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>
Date2016-07-13 18:22 +1000
Message-ID<8atbobhstkrtnqd8ja389unfr2eongmb6q@4ax.com>
In reply to#31548
Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

>The Apple apologists were extolling the virtues of living in the walled 
>garden in another thread, so, I snapped this picture moments ago of my 
>camera and spare equipment...
>http://i.cubeupload.com/PYm9y5.jpg
>
>Regarding that equipment ask here two questions:
>1. What else did you add to your Android equipment?
>2. How would the Apple apologists do the same thing? 
>
>The photo shows:
>a. Samsung Galaxy S3
>b. A spare back for each battery (3 backs in total)
>c. Two normal-sized replacement batteries (2,300 mAh with NFC)
>d. One large-sized replacement battery (7,000 mAh with NFC)
>d. A spare charger for those batteries (with a spare USB output)
>e. A waterproof USB tube camera with lights and on a 3-foot cable with a 
>switch
>
>I forget what the spare equipment and camera cost, but it was under $50 in 
>total as I recall.
>
>The question for Apple apologists is:
>Q: How do you do that & how much does it cost you to do that?
>
>The question for Android enthusiasts is:

While I am pleased that there is a cheap and ubiquitous OS for phones
and I am willing to sacrifice my privacy to pay for it I can't imagine
being enthusiastic about it. 
>Q: What else did you do for your Android equipment recently?

I have this sensible Samsung system for removable batteries
<http://tinyurl.com/j8on3eo>. I can charge one and swap it over each
day. They dropped it with the S6 so I won't replace my S5 with a
Samsung.

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#31579

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-07-13 11:35 +0100
Message-ID<op.ykjbpalmmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>
In reply to#31548
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:46:05 +0100, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> The Apple apologists were extolling the virtues of living in the walled
> garden in another thread, so, I snapped this picture moments ago of my
[]

> Pictures requested (since we prove what we say).

Troll


-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#31582

FromJoe W DiDomenico <email@domain.com>
Date2016-07-13 08:22 -0400
Message-ID<nm5bq8$979$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#31548
On 2016-07-12 21:46:05 +0000, Aardvarks said:

Even the nature of your subject line tells me you are one of those 
incomprehensible defenders of your own OSes and equipment, lacking in 
whatever sense of self worth it takes to frankly not give a shite what 
other people prefer.

I use them all and find satisfaction, and at the same time, missing 
parts everywhere.

Most people don't give a shit.

Go eat some ants and chill.

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#31584

FromMichael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
Date2016-07-13 14:41 +0200
Message-ID<nm5cta$9h6$1@news.sap-ag.de>
In reply to#31548
Am 12.07.2016 um 23:46 schrieb Aardvarks:
> The Apple apologists were extolling the virtues of living in the walled
> garden in another thread, so, I snapped this picture moments ago of my
> camera and spare equipment...
> http://i.cubeupload.com/PYm9y5.jpg
>
> Regarding that equipment ask here two questions:
> 1. What else did you add to your Android equipment?
> 2. How would the Apple apologists do the same thing?
>
> The photo shows:
> a. Samsung Galaxy S3
> b. A spare back for each battery (3 backs in total)
> c. Two normal-sized replacement batteries (2,300 mAh with NFC)
> d. One large-sized replacement battery (7,000 mAh with NFC)
> d. A spare charger for those batteries (with a spare USB output)
> e. A waterproof USB tube camera with lights and on a 3-foot cable with a
> switch
>
> I forget what the spare equipment and camera cost, but it was under $50 in
> total as I recall.
>
> The question for Apple apologists is:
> Q: How do you do that & how much does it cost you to do that?

I certainly don't need that camera, so I don't bother. And for the 
battery, I simply have several USB external battery packs, i.e. one big 
one with 10400mAh (sufficient for about 3 full charges of an iPhone 6) 
and small one with 2600mAh, sufficient for almost one full charge). Ah 
yes, and there's one with 5x00mAh which I got for free. The 10400mAh one 
cost me (IIRC about a year ago) ~25€ (~27$), the other one was less than 
10€.

> Pictures requested (since we prove what we say).

Forget it. :-)

Best regards,

Michael

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#31603

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-13 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<nm6er6$16d1$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#31584
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:41:12 +0200, Michael Eyd wrote:

> I certainly don't need that camera, so I don't bother. And for the 
> battery, I simply have several USB external battery packs, i.e. one big 
> one with 10400mAh (sufficient for about 3 full charges of an iPhone 6) 
> and small one with 2600mAh, sufficient for almost one full charge). Ah 
> yes, and there's one with 5x00mAh which I got for free. The 10400mAh one 
> cost me (IIRC about a year ago) ~25¤ (~27$), the other one was less than 
> 10¤.

This is great to know that the Apple replacement batteries (probably
aftermarket, but that's fine) are as cheap as the Android batteries are
(after all, it's just a battery).

In fact, I have a relative with three iPads, two of which exhibit battery
life issues, that I may consider sending a battery!

1. iPad bought in 2010 (no camera) stuck on iOS 5.x with lousy battery life
2. iPad bought in 2012 with camera, on iOS 9, with medium battery life
3. iPad mini bought in 2014 with iOS 9 with great battery life

I may send her a battery for the iPad stuck forever on iOS 5, but I'd have
to line up someone else to put it in for her.

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#31608

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-13 18:30 -0400
Message-ID<130720161830018042%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#31603
In article <nm6er6$16d1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 1. iPad bought in 2010 (no camera) stuck on iOS 5.x with lousy battery life
> 2. iPad bought in 2012 with camera, on iOS 9, with medium battery life
> 3. iPad mini bought in 2014 with iOS 9 with great battery life
> 
> I may send her a battery for the iPad stuck forever on iOS 5, but I'd have
> to line up someone else to put it in for her.

that's the original ipad and not worth the effort.

flip it on ebay and use the money towards a new ipad.

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#31610

FromBobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net>
Date2016-07-13 17:35 -0500
Message-ID<sfgdob9ubc4hic8gll8kq3bsnbq7gsu0be@4ax.com>
In reply to#31548
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:46:05 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

>The Apple apologists were extolling the virtues of living in the walled 
>garden in another thread, so, I snapped this picture moments ago of my 
>camera and spare equipment...
>http://i.cubeupload.com/PYm9y5.jpg
>
>Regarding that equipment ask here two questions:
>1. What else did you add to your Android equipment?
>2. How would the Apple apologists do the same thing? 
>
>The photo shows:
>a. Samsung Galaxy S3
>b. A spare back for each battery (3 backs in total)
>c. Two normal-sized replacement batteries (2,300 mAh with NFC)
>d. One large-sized replacement battery (7,000 mAh with NFC)
>d. A spare charger for those batteries (with a spare USB output)
>e. A waterproof USB tube camera with lights and on a 3-foot cable with a 
>switch
>
>I forget what the spare equipment and camera cost, but it was under $50 in 
>total as I recall.
>
>The question for Apple apologists is:
>Q: How do you do that & how much does it cost you to do that?
>
>The question for Android enthusiasts is:
>Q: What else did you do for your Android equipment recently?
>http://i.cubeupload.com/PYm9y5.jpg
>
>Pictures requested (since we prove what we say).

Who gives a rat's ass?

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