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Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone?

Started byMike Copeland <mrc2323@cox.net>
First post2026-10-04 21:07 -0700
Last post2026-10-06 15:45 -0300
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  Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Mike Copeland <mrc2323@cox.net> - 2026-10-04 21:07 -0700
    Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-04 23:50 -0500
      Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 04:48 -0300
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-05 03:32 -0500
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:02 -0300
            Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-05 22:10 -0500
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 14:30 -0300
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0200
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:01 -0300
            Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 10:59 +0200
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 14:38 -0300
                Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-08 17:57 +0200
                  Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-08 15:48 -0700
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:18 +0200
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 12:47 +0200
            Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:31 -0300
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:53 +0200
                Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 16:28 -0300
                  Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 21:51 +0200
                    Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-07 02:41 -0300
    Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-10-05 09:49 +0300
      Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:53 +0200
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:23 -0300
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 00:12 -0700
            Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:38 -0300
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 12:59 -0700
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 11:00 +0200
            Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:43 -0300
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:49 -0300
              Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-08 18:03 +0200
                Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-10-08 20:34 +0200
                Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-08 15:41 -0700
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 23:02 +0100
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 18:51 -0700
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-07 14:52 +0000
    Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0200
      Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:05 -0300
        Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
          Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:45 -0300

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#156273

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-10-05 09:49 +0300
Message-ID<63i6cllabuiuc7cqgkqbgmkhhrlk5p5n1e@4ax.com>
In reply to#156271
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland
<mrc2323@cox.net> wrote:

>
>   Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 

YOu should ask Gemini!

>intrusive software app just appeared on my phone some months go, and (1) 
>I have no need for it and (2) it's just the kind of cr*p I don't want.  
>I just want to remove it, but I don't know if it's possible.  Please 
>advise.  TIA

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#156280

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-10-05 14:53 +0200
Message-ID<nihks6FfquaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156273
On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland
> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >   Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 
 
> YOu should ask Gemini!

-  How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)?

Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running
Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app.
However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your
shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital
assistants entirely**.

---

### Step 1: Switch Away from Gemini as Your Assistant

If Gemini is set as your default assistant, you need to change or clear
this role:

1. Open **Settings** on your Pixel 10.
2. Go to **Apps** $\rightarrow$ **Default apps** $\rightarrow$ **Digital
assistant app**.
3. Tap **Default digital assistant app** and select **Google Assistant**
(or **None** if you don't want an assistant at all).

---

### Step 2: Disable or Uninstall the Gemini App

1. Press and hold the **Gemini** app icon on your home screen or app
drawer.
2. Tap the **App info** icon (the small **ⓘ**).
3. Tap **Disable** (or **Uninstall** if an updates-only version was
installed from the Play Store).
4. Confirm by selecting **Disable app**.

*This removes the app icon from your app drawer and prevents Gemini from
running in the background.*

---

### Step 3: Remap the Power Button Gesture

To prevent the power button from attempting to summon an assistant:

1. Open **Settings** $\rightarrow$ **System** $\rightarrow$
**Gestures**.
2. Tap **Press & hold power button**.
3. Switch the action to **Power menu** instead of *Digital assistant*.

---

### Step 4: Turn off "Hey Google" & Lock Screen Triggers

1. Open **Settings** $\rightarrow$ **Google** $\rightarrow$ **All
services** $\rightarrow$ **Settings for Google apps** $\rightarrow$
**Search, Assistant & Voice**.
2. Tap **Google Assistant** $\rightarrow$ **Hey Google & Voice Match**
and toggle off **Hey Google**.

---

### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users)

If you want to completely remove the package for your active user
account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via
USB debugging:

```bash
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

```

*(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system
stubs in future Android patches).*

-- 
Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
		- Julius Caesar

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#156286

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-05 12:23 -0300
Message-ID<11a0fe4$21tp$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156280
micky wrote:
>>   Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 
> 
> YOu should ask Gemini!

 Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
 Subject: Uninstalling any app, including any system app, with ADB. sans root
 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 12:13:59 -0300
 Message-ID: <11a0erm$fv0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Note that I've run this command for, oh, I don't know, hundreds of apps,
including scores of system packages, and it rarely fails, but it can fail.

For an unrooted user, pm uninstall --user 0 doesn't always guarantee that
every system app can be removed for user 0 as apps may refuse based on... 

 1. It is marked as a protected system app. 
    Android/OEM software can designate packages as non-uninstallable.

 2. It is a critical system component. 
    Some packages are protected because removing them could break
    core Android functionality.

 3. The package is required by another system component. 
    An OEM may impose restrictions on removing dependencies.

 4. Device-owner / enterprise management restrictions. 
    A managed device can prevent package removal.

 5. The OEM has special restrictions. 
    Samsung, Google, etc. can add their own package-management protections.
 
  6. The app may be part of an APEX module or another specially managed 
     component which don't behave like ordinary APK-based system apps.

However, many ordinary preinstalled system APKs can be uninstalled for the
user even though their APK remains in the read-only system partition.

Ask me how I know this.
I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.

Fancy that.

I install an app that *says* it has ads. 
But the ads have no way of showing. 

Every once in a while, maybe one out of a score of deletions, something
"bad" happens, so the good news is you can restore these deleted apps.

The only time I couldn't easily restore was when I used Shizuku to wipe out
Samsung TTS/SST engines, which could only be restored with a factory wipe 
(since I don't have a Samsung account so I couldn't get it from the store).

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#156297

FromOld McDonald <eieio@patch.corn>
Date2026-10-06 00:12 -0700
Message-ID<11a2708$1mirf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156286
On 10/5/26 08:23, Maria Sophia wrote:
> micky wrote:
>>>    Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This
>>
>> YOu should ask Gemini!
> 
>   Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
>   Subject: Uninstalling any app, including any system app, with ADB. sans root
>   Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 12:13:59 -0300
>   Message-ID: <11a0erm$fv0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
> 
> Note that I've run this command for, oh, I don't know, hundreds of apps,
> including scores of system packages, and it rarely fails, but it can fail.
> 
> For an unrooted user, pm uninstall --user 0 doesn't always guarantee that
> every system app can be removed for user 0 as apps may refuse based on...
> 
>   1. It is marked as a protected system app.
>      Android/OEM software can designate packages as non-uninstallable.
> 
>   2. It is a critical system component.
>      Some packages are protected because removing them could break
>      core Android functionality.
> 
>   3. The package is required by another system component.
>      An OEM may impose restrictions on removing dependencies.
> 
>   4. Device-owner / enterprise management restrictions.
>      A managed device can prevent package removal.
> 
>   5. The OEM has special restrictions.
>      Samsung, Google, etc. can add their own package-management protections.
>   
>    6. The app may be part of an APEX module or another specially managed
>       component which don't behave like ordinary APK-based system apps.
> 
> However, many ordinary preinstalled system APKs can be uninstalled for the
> user even though their APK remains in the read-only system partition.
> 
> Ask me how I know this.
> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.

Your Galaxy doesn't work perfectly.

> Fancy that.

Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could 
have GrapheneOS?

Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should 
be following your lead?


> I install an app that *says* it has ads.
> But the ads have no way of showing.
> 
> Every once in a while, maybe one out of a score of deletions, something
> "bad" happens, so the good news is you can restore these deleted apps.
> 
> The only time I couldn't easily restore was when I used Shizuku to wipe out
> Samsung TTS/SST engines, which could only be restored with a factory wipe
> (since I don't have a Samsung account so I couldn't get it from the store).

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#156312

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-06 15:38 -0300
Message-ID<11a3f6r$1d9q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156297
Old McDonald wrote:
>> Fancy that.
> 
> Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could 
> have GrapheneOS?
> 
> Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should 
> be following your lead?

Since you're asking stupid questions, in an attempt to insult me, and yet,
the fact your assumption is so asinine, allows me to respond rhetorically.

Q: What do you know about USA-dpec Samsung Galaxy booloader unlocking?
A: ?


HINT: Nothing.

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#156323

FromOld McDonald <eieio@patch.corn>
Date2026-10-06 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<11a3jvd$28a6f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156312
On 10/6/26 11:38, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Old McDonald wrote:
>>> Fancy that.
>>
>> Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could
>> have GrapheneOS?
>>
>> Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should
>> be following your lead?
> 
> Since you're asking stupid questions, in an attempt to insult me, and yet,
> the fact your assumption is so asinine, allows me to respond rhetorically.

You won't answer. I think you want to cultivate a following.
I don't think anyone reads your thousand-line copy/paste posts. I don't.
You know enough to do this better.

> 
> Q: What do you know about USA-dpec Samsung Galaxy booloader unlocking?
> A: ?
> 
> 
> HINT: Nothing.

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#156299

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-10-06 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<11a2dba$1p825$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156286
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-05 17:23:

[...]> Ask me how I know this.
> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.

And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version
which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#156313

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-06 15:43 -0300
Message-ID<11a3fg9$1hd5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156299
Arno Welzel wrote:
>> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
>> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.
> 
> And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version
> which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what?

Hi Arno,

That comparison is absurd.
Allow me to help you understand what you don't seem to comprehend, yet.

Q1: Roughly, how many people "can" do what I do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
    (if they had a galaxy A32-5G that is, where mine is USA-spec)

Q2: Roughly, how many people "can" do what YOU do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
    (when you realize the answer, you'll realize what you said is absurd)

Note: You're likely on a Pixel.
      Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic.

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#156315

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-06 15:49 -0300
Message-ID<11a3fse$2gr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156313
Maria Sophia wrote:
>       Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic.

I belatedly noticed you specifically said you did it on a Galaxy phone.
Hmmm... did you?

Really?
Or did you do it on a Pixel?

Give me the *model* of that Galaxy phone. 

Is it a USA spec? 
Or is it not a USA spec.

Yes, it makes a huge difference.
Which is the whole point after all.

What I describe, EVERYONE can do.
What you describe, only very few people can do.

Because the hardware won't let them.
If you can't comprehend something that obvious, there's a big problem.

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#156337

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-10-08 18:03 +0200
Message-ID<11a8esc$3vqtn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156313
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-06 20:43:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
>>> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.
>>
>> And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version
>> which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what?
> 
> Hi Arno,
> 
> That comparison is absurd.
> Allow me to help you understand what you don't seem to comprehend, yet.
> 
> Q1: Roughly, how many people "can" do what I do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
>     (if they had a galaxy A32-5G that is, where mine is USA-spec)
> 
> Q2: Roughly, how many people "can" do what YOU do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
>     (when you realize the answer, you'll realize what you said is absurd)

LineageOS supports many Samsung devices. Just because your specific
model is not supported, does not mean, Samsung in general can not use
alternative Android versions:

<https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung>

> Note: You're likely on a Pixel.

And on Fairphone, Xiaomi, Samsung, Sony....

>       Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic.

I know. But I don't live in USA and don't need USA Galaxy phones.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#156340

FromPhilippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr>
Date2026-10-08 20:34 +0200
Message-ID<20261008203432.0d938b31@peinard.chezmoi>
In reply to#156337
Le jeu. 08 oct. 2026 18:03:23, Arno Welzel a écrit:

> LineageOS supports many Samsung devices. Just because your specific
> model is not supported, does not mean, Samsung in general can not use
> alternative Android versions:
> 
> <https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung>

Which one would you recommend ? A model with support for VoLTE please, 
as 2G network is being turned off in my country and I need a phone that
can receive+send calls and SMS. 
No, whatsapp&co are not acceptable substitutes for me.

AFAIK there is absolutely no alternative OS for Samsung that is able to
use VoLTE.

And I urgently need to replace my Samsung S4 mini+Lineage-18 (unofficial),
but everything I can find is cooktop sized. 
Samsung still make some close-to-reasonably-sized devices, so a concrete 
recommendation would be warmly appreciated.

-- 
Philippe

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#156341

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-08 15:41 -0700
Message-ID<11a966i$1mv9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156337
Arno Welzel wrote:
>>       Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic.
> 
> I know. But I don't live in USA and don't need USA Galaxy phones.

Thanks for the clarification... which I don't disagree with.
I always accept any logical explanation, no matter from whom.

Trust me I wish USA-spec Samsung phones would allow the bootloader to be
unlocked, but it doesn't seem to be the case. 

Luckily, EU-spec Samsungs, I am told, have unlockable bootloaders.
So they can do the stuff you recommend.

Good for them. 
I envy them (in a good way) as I'm happy for them.

My next phone will likely have an sd slot (as I just bought 512GB of
sdcards) but if I ever get a phone sans sd slots, it would be a Pixel.

Why a pixel?
Because their bootloaders can be unlocked.

And because they're closer to stock Android.
(Samsung makes a mess of Android.)

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#156324

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-06 23:02 +0100
Message-ID<11a3r4s$2bdkh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156280
On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote:
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland
>> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >   Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 
>  
>> YOu should ask Gemini!
>
> -  How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)?
>
> Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running
> Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app.
> However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your
> shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital
> assistants entirely**.

Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a
justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be
disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable...

[...]

> ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users)
>
> If you want to completely remove the package for your active user
> account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via
> USB debugging:
>
> ```bash
> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard
>
> ```
>
> *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system
> stubs in future Android patches).*

It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can
optionally uninstall it.

I can sense a headache forming.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#156325

FromOld McDonald <eieio@patch.corn>
Date2026-10-06 18:51 -0700
Message-ID<11a48il$2evkh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156324
On 10/6/26 15:02, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote:
>>
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland
>>> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This
>>   
>>> YOu should ask Gemini!
>>
>> -  How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)?
>>
>> Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running
>> Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app.
>> However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your
>> shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital
>> assistants entirely**.
> 
> Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a
> justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be
> disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable...
> 
> [...]
> 
>> ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users)
>>
>> If you want to completely remove the package for your active user
>> account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via
>> USB debugging:
>>
>> ```bash
>> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard
>>
>> ```
>>
>> *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system
>> stubs in future Android patches).*
> 
> It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can
> optionally uninstall it.
> 
> I can sense a headache forming.

Don't trust anything about your phone, unless you take the battery out.

Microphones have been remotely turned on even while phones were 'Powered 
Off'.

"I try not to use one as much as possible, and when I do use one, I use 
a cellphone that I have myself modified. [I've] performed a kind of 
surgery on it. I open it up with special tools and I use a soldering 
iron to remove the microphone and I disconnect the camera so that the 
phone can't simply listen to me when it's sitting there. It physically 
has no microphone in it. And when I need to make a call I just connect 
an external microphone through the headphone jack."
- Edward Snowden
<https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/761918152/exiled-nsa-contractor-edward-snowden-i-haven-t-and-i-won-t-cooperate-with-russia>

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#156330

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2026-10-07 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<11a5sku.4u0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#156324
Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote:
> >
> >> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland
> >> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >   Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 
> >  
> >> YOu should ask Gemini!
> >
> > -  How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)?
> >
> > Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running
> > Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app.
> > However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your
> > shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital
> > assistants entirely**.
> 
> Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a
> justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be
> disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable...

  Note that it does not say "not able to be uninstalled", but "cannot
be fully deleted". Not that it matters, much, but don't quote what
hasn't been written.

  And yes, "disable" is not the same as "uninstall(ed)" or "delete(d)".

> [...]
> 
> > ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users)
> >
> > If you want to completely remove the package for your active user
> > account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via
> > USB debugging:
> >
> > ```bash
> > adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard
> >
> > ```
> >
> > *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system
> > stubs in future Android patches).*
> 
> It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can
> optionally uninstall it.
> 
> I can sense a headache forming.

  Yes, it's sowhat headache material, but note what it *actually* says
(emphasis/UPPERCASE mine):

> > If you want to completely remove the PACKAGE for your ACTIVE user

  So you remove the *package*, only for your *active* user. (Like most
OSs, Android can have more than one user. 'user 0' is the normal user.)

  Bottom line: Best concentrate what you *can* do:

[Rewind/repeat:]

> > However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your
> > shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital
> > assistants entirely**.

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#156278

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-10-05 13:45 +0200
Message-ID<11a02kp$t4n8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156271
Mike Copeland, 2026-10-05 06:07:

>    Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 

When it was installed as part of an Android upgrade and comes as a
system app - no.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#156284

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-05 12:05 -0300
Message-ID<11a0eb3$2vrv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156278
Arno Welzel wrote:
>>    Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)?  This 
> 
> When it was installed as part of an Android upgrade and comes as a
> system app - no.

 # Disable the app for user 0:
 adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

 # Force-stop the app:
 adb shell am force-stop com.google.android.apps.bard

 # Uninstall the app for user 0:
 adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

# Restore a system/preinstalled app previously uninstalled for user 0:
 adb shell cmd package install-existing --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

 # Re-enable an app that was disabled for user 0:
 adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

We've covered this about a thousand times on this very Android newsgroup.

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#156300

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
Message-ID<11a2dco$1p825$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#156284
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-05 17:05:

>  # Uninstall the app for user 0:
>  adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard

Yes - still installed, just not for user 0.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#156314

FromMaria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
Date2026-10-06 15:45 -0300
Message-ID<11a3fke$2soi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#156300
Arno Welzel wrote:
>>  # Uninstall the app for user 0:
>>  adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard
> 
> Yes - still installed, just not for user 0.

And, if there is a user 1, that user 1 can have a completely different
package state from user 0. We agree.

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