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| Started by | Mike Copeland <mrc2323@cox.net> |
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| First post | 2026-10-04 21:07 -0700 |
| Last post | 2026-10-06 15:45 -0300 |
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Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Mike Copeland <mrc2323@cox.net> - 2026-10-04 21:07 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-04 23:50 -0500
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 04:48 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-05 03:32 -0500
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:02 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-10-05 22:10 -0500
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 14:30 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:01 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 10:59 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 14:38 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-08 17:57 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-08 15:48 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:18 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 12:47 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:31 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:53 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 16:28 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 21:51 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-07 02:41 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-10-05 09:49 +0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:53 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:23 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 00:12 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:38 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 12:59 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 11:00 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:43 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:49 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-08 18:03 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-10-08 20:34 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-08 15:41 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 23:02 +0100
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-10-06 18:51 -0700
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-07 14:52 +0000
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-05 12:05 -0300
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
Re: Eliminate Gemini from Android Phone? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-06 15:45 -0300
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 09:49 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <63i6cllabuiuc7cqgkqbgmkhhrlk5p5n1e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #156271 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote: > > Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This YOu should ask Gemini! >intrusive software app just appeared on my phone some months go, and (1) >I have no need for it and (2) it's just the kind of cr*p I don't want. >I just want to remove it, but I don't know if it's possible. Please >advise. TIA
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 14:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nihks6FfquaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156273 |
On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland > <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote: > > > Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This > YOu should ask Gemini! - How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)? Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app. However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital assistants entirely**. --- ### Step 1: Switch Away from Gemini as Your Assistant If Gemini is set as your default assistant, you need to change or clear this role: 1. Open **Settings** on your Pixel 10. 2. Go to **Apps** $\rightarrow$ **Default apps** $\rightarrow$ **Digital assistant app**. 3. Tap **Default digital assistant app** and select **Google Assistant** (or **None** if you don't want an assistant at all). --- ### Step 2: Disable or Uninstall the Gemini App 1. Press and hold the **Gemini** app icon on your home screen or app drawer. 2. Tap the **App info** icon (the small **ⓘ**). 3. Tap **Disable** (or **Uninstall** if an updates-only version was installed from the Play Store). 4. Confirm by selecting **Disable app**. *This removes the app icon from your app drawer and prevents Gemini from running in the background.* --- ### Step 3: Remap the Power Button Gesture To prevent the power button from attempting to summon an assistant: 1. Open **Settings** $\rightarrow$ **System** $\rightarrow$ **Gestures**. 2. Tap **Press & hold power button**. 3. Switch the action to **Power menu** instead of *Digital assistant*. --- ### Step 4: Turn off "Hey Google" & Lock Screen Triggers 1. Open **Settings** $\rightarrow$ **Google** $\rightarrow$ **All services** $\rightarrow$ **Settings for Google apps** $\rightarrow$ **Search, Assistant & Voice**. 2. Tap **Google Assistant** $\rightarrow$ **Hey Google & Voice Match** and toggle off **Hey Google**. --- ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users) If you want to completely remove the package for your active user account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via USB debugging: ```bash adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard ``` *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system stubs in future Android patches).* -- Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae. - Julius Caesar
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 12:23 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a0fe4$21tp$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156280 |
micky wrote:
>> Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This
>
> YOu should ask Gemini!
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Uninstalling any app, including any system app, with ADB. sans root
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 12:13:59 -0300
Message-ID: <11a0erm$fv0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
Note that I've run this command for, oh, I don't know, hundreds of apps,
including scores of system packages, and it rarely fails, but it can fail.
For an unrooted user, pm uninstall --user 0 doesn't always guarantee that
every system app can be removed for user 0 as apps may refuse based on...
1. It is marked as a protected system app.
Android/OEM software can designate packages as non-uninstallable.
2. It is a critical system component.
Some packages are protected because removing them could break
core Android functionality.
3. The package is required by another system component.
An OEM may impose restrictions on removing dependencies.
4. Device-owner / enterprise management restrictions.
A managed device can prevent package removal.
5. The OEM has special restrictions.
Samsung, Google, etc. can add their own package-management protections.
6. The app may be part of an APEX module or another specially managed
component which don't behave like ordinary APK-based system apps.
However, many ordinary preinstalled system APKs can be uninstalled for the
user even though their APK remains in the read-only system partition.
Ask me how I know this.
I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.
Fancy that.
I install an app that *says* it has ads.
But the ads have no way of showing.
Every once in a while, maybe one out of a score of deletions, something
"bad" happens, so the good news is you can restore these deleted apps.
The only time I couldn't easily restore was when I used Shizuku to wipe out
Samsung TTS/SST engines, which could only be restored with a factory wipe
(since I don't have a Samsung account so I couldn't get it from the store).
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| From | Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 00:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11a2708$1mirf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156286 |
On 10/5/26 08:23, Maria Sophia wrote: > micky wrote: >>> Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This >> >> YOu should ask Gemini! > > Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android > Subject: Uninstalling any app, including any system app, with ADB. sans root > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 12:13:59 -0300 > Message-ID: <11a0erm$fv0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> > > Note that I've run this command for, oh, I don't know, hundreds of apps, > including scores of system packages, and it rarely fails, but it can fail. > > For an unrooted user, pm uninstall --user 0 doesn't always guarantee that > every system app can be removed for user 0 as apps may refuse based on... > > 1. It is marked as a protected system app. > Android/OEM software can designate packages as non-uninstallable. > > 2. It is a critical system component. > Some packages are protected because removing them could break > core Android functionality. > > 3. The package is required by another system component. > An OEM may impose restrictions on removing dependencies. > > 4. Device-owner / enterprise management restrictions. > A managed device can prevent package removal. > > 5. The OEM has special restrictions. > Samsung, Google, etc. can add their own package-management protections. > > 6. The app may be part of an APEX module or another specially managed > component which don't behave like ordinary APK-based system apps. > > However, many ordinary preinstalled system APKs can be uninstalled for the > user even though their APK remains in the read-only system partition. > > Ask me how I know this. > I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works > perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements. Your Galaxy doesn't work perfectly. > Fancy that. Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could have GrapheneOS? Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should be following your lead? > I install an app that *says* it has ads. > But the ads have no way of showing. > > Every once in a while, maybe one out of a score of deletions, something > "bad" happens, so the good news is you can restore these deleted apps. > > The only time I couldn't easily restore was when I used Shizuku to wipe out > Samsung TTS/SST engines, which could only be restored with a factory wipe > (since I don't have a Samsung account so I couldn't get it from the store).
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 15:38 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a3f6r$1d9q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156297 |
Old McDonald wrote: >> Fancy that. > > Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could > have GrapheneOS? > > Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should > be following your lead? Since you're asking stupid questions, in an attempt to insult me, and yet, the fact your assumption is so asinine, allows me to respond rhetorically. Q: What do you know about USA-dpec Samsung Galaxy booloader unlocking? A: ? HINT: Nothing.
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| From | Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 12:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11a3jvd$28a6f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156312 |
On 10/6/26 11:38, Maria Sophia wrote: > Old McDonald wrote: >>> Fancy that. >> >> Why do you waste time debloating and degoogling Android when you could >> have GrapheneOS? >> >> Why do GrapheneOS developers waste time on GrapheneOS when they should >> be following your lead? > > Since you're asking stupid questions, in an attempt to insult me, and yet, > the fact your assumption is so asinine, allows me to respond rhetorically. You won't answer. I think you want to cultivate a following. I don't think anyone reads your thousand-line copy/paste posts. I don't. You know enough to do this better. > > Q: What do you know about USA-dpec Samsung Galaxy booloader unlocking? > A: ? > > > HINT: Nothing.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 11:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11a2dba$1p825$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156286 |
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-05 17:23: [...]> Ask me how I know this. > I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works > perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements. And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what? -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 15:43 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a3fg9$1hd5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156299 |
Arno Welzel wrote:
>> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works
>> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements.
>
> And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version
> which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what?
Hi Arno,
That comparison is absurd.
Allow me to help you understand what you don't seem to comprehend, yet.
Q1: Roughly, how many people "can" do what I do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
(if they had a galaxy A32-5G that is, where mine is USA-spec)
Q2: Roughly, how many people "can" do what YOU do with my Galaxy A32-5G?
(when you realize the answer, you'll realize what you said is absurd)
Note: You're likely on a Pixel.
Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 15:49 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a3fse$2gr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156313 |
Maria Sophia wrote: > Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic. I belatedly noticed you specifically said you did it on a Galaxy phone. Hmmm... did you? Really? Or did you do it on a Pixel? Give me the *model* of that Galaxy phone. Is it a USA spec? Or is it not a USA spec. Yes, it makes a huge difference. Which is the whole point after all. What I describe, EVERYONE can do. What you describe, only very few people can do. Because the hardware won't let them. If you can't comprehend something that obvious, there's a big problem.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 18:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11a8esc$3vqtn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156313 |
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-06 20:43: > Arno Welzel wrote: >>> I've debloated my USA-spec (hence unrootable) Galaxy so much that it works >>> perfectly, in so much as it's even incapable of showing advertisements. >> >> And I *replaced* Android in Galaxy and many other devices with a version >> which does not have even Google Services integrated. So what? > > Hi Arno, > > That comparison is absurd. > Allow me to help you understand what you don't seem to comprehend, yet. > > Q1: Roughly, how many people "can" do what I do with my Galaxy A32-5G? > (if they had a galaxy A32-5G that is, where mine is USA-spec) > > Q2: Roughly, how many people "can" do what YOU do with my Galaxy A32-5G? > (when you realize the answer, you'll realize what you said is absurd) LineageOS supports many Samsung devices. Just because your specific model is not supported, does not mean, Samsung in general can not use alternative Android versions: <https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung> > Note: You're likely on a Pixel. And on Fairphone, Xiaomi, Samsung, Sony.... > Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic. I know. But I don't live in USA and don't need USA Galaxy phones. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20261008203432.0d938b31@peinard.chezmoi> |
| In reply to | #156337 |
Le jeu. 08 oct. 2026 18:03:23, Arno Welzel a écrit: > LineageOS supports many Samsung devices. Just because your specific > model is not supported, does not mean, Samsung in general can not use > alternative Android versions: > > <https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#samsung> Which one would you recommend ? A model with support for VoLTE please, as 2G network is being turned off in my country and I need a phone that can receive+send calls and SMS. No, whatsapp&co are not acceptable substitutes for me. AFAIK there is absolutely no alternative OS for Samsung that is able to use VoLTE. And I urgently need to replace my Samsung S4 mini+Lineage-18 (unofficial), but everything I can find is cooktop sized. Samsung still make some close-to-reasonably-sized devices, so a concrete recommendation would be warmly appreciated. -- Philippe
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 15:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11a966i$1mv9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156337 |
Arno Welzel wrote: >> Pixels are VERY different than USA Galaxy phones for this topic. > > I know. But I don't live in USA and don't need USA Galaxy phones. Thanks for the clarification... which I don't disagree with. I always accept any logical explanation, no matter from whom. Trust me I wish USA-spec Samsung phones would allow the bootloader to be unlocked, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Luckily, EU-spec Samsungs, I am told, have unlockable bootloaders. So they can do the stuff you recommend. Good for them. I envy them (in a good way) as I'm happy for them. My next phone will likely have an sd slot (as I just bought 512GB of sdcards) but if I ever get a phone sans sd slots, it would be a Pixel. Why a pixel? Because their bootloaders can be unlocked. And because they're closer to stock Android. (Samsung makes a mess of Android.)
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 23:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a3r4s$2bdkh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156280 |
On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote: > On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote: > >> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland >> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote: >> >> > Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This > >> YOu should ask Gemini! > > - How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)? > > Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running > Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app. > However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your > shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital > assistants entirely**. Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable... [...] > ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users) > > If you want to completely remove the package for your active user > account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via > USB debugging: > > ```bash > adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard > > ``` > > *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system > stubs in future Android patches).* It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can optionally uninstall it. I can sense a headache forming. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Old McDonald <eieio@patch.corn> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 18:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <11a48il$2evkh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156324 |
On 10/6/26 15:02, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote: > >> On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote: >> >>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland >>> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This >> >>> YOu should ask Gemini! >> >> - How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)? >> >> Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running >> Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app. >> However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your >> shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital >> assistants entirely**. > > Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a > justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be > disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable... > > [...] > >> ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users) >> >> If you want to completely remove the package for your active user >> account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via >> USB debugging: >> >> ```bash >> adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard >> >> ``` >> >> *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system >> stubs in future Android patches).* > > It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can > optionally uninstall it. > > I can sense a headache forming. Don't trust anything about your phone, unless you take the battery out. Microphones have been remotely turned on even while phones were 'Powered Off'. "I try not to use one as much as possible, and when I do use one, I use a cellphone that I have myself modified. [I've] performed a kind of surgery on it. I open it up with special tools and I use a soldering iron to remove the microphone and I disconnect the camera so that the phone can't simply listen to me when it's sitting there. It physically has no microphone in it. And when I need to make a call I just connect an external microphone through the headphone jack." - Edward Snowden <https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/761918152/exiled-nsa-contractor-edward-snowden-i-haven-t-and-i-won-t-cooperate-with-russia>
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11a5sku.4u0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156324 |
Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-10-05, s|b wrote: > > > On Mon, 05 Oct 2026 09:49:31 +0300, micky wrote: > > > >> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 4 Oct 2026 21:07:37 -0700, Mike Copeland > >> <mrc2323@cox.net> wrote: > >> > >> > Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This > > > >> YOu should ask Gemini! > > > > - How do I unstall Gemini on my Google Pixel 10 (Android 17)? > > > > Because Gemini comes deeply integrated into Pixel devices running > > Android 17, it cannot be fully deleted like a standard third-party app. > > However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your > > shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital > > assistants entirely**. > > Aaaaaaaand that's got to be nonsense, if it's "deeply integrated" as a > justification for "not able to be uninstalled", then how can it be > disabled? Unless "disable" does not disable... Note that it does not say "not able to be uninstalled", but "cannot be fully deleted". Not that it matters, much, but don't quote what hasn't been written. And yes, "disable" is not the same as "uninstall(ed)" or "delete(d)". > [...] > > > ### Optional: Advanced ADB Removal (For Tech-Savvy Users) > > > > If you want to completely remove the package for your active user > > account without rooting, you can use **Android Debug Bridge (ADB)** via > > USB debugging: > > > > ```bash > > adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard > > > > ``` > > > > *(Note: System updates may reinstall or re-enable pre-installed system > > stubs in future Android patches).* > > It's "deeply integrated", so you can't uninstall it, but you can > optionally uninstall it. > > I can sense a headache forming. Yes, it's sowhat headache material, but note what it *actually* says (emphasis/UPPERCASE mine): > > If you want to completely remove the PACKAGE for your ACTIVE user So you remove the *package*, only for your *active* user. (Like most OSs, Android can have more than one user. 'user 0' is the normal user.) Bottom line: Best concentrate what you *can* do: [Rewind/repeat:] > > However, you can completely **disable the app**, **remove it from your > > shortcuts**, and **switch back to Google Assistant or disable digital > > assistants entirely**.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 13:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11a02kp$t4n8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156271 |
Mike Copeland, 2026-10-05 06:07: > Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This When it was installed as part of an Android upgrade and comes as a system app - no. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 12:05 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a0eb3$2vrv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156278 |
Arno Welzel wrote: >> Is there a way to remove Gemini from my Android phone (safely)? This > > When it was installed as part of an Android upgrade and comes as a > system app - no. # Disable the app for user 0: adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard # Force-stop the app: adb shell am force-stop com.google.android.apps.bard # Uninstall the app for user 0: adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard # Restore a system/preinstalled app previously uninstalled for user 0: adb shell cmd package install-existing --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard # Re-enable an app that was disabled for user 0: adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard We've covered this about a thousand times on this very Android newsgroup.
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <11a2dco$1p825$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156284 |
Maria Sophia, 2026-10-05 17:05: > # Uninstall the app for user 0: > adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard Yes - still installed, just not for user 0. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 15:45 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <11a3fke$2soi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #156300 |
Arno Welzel wrote: >> # Uninstall the app for user 0: >> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.bard > > Yes - still installed, just not for user 0. And, if there is a user 1, that user 1 can have a completely different package state from user 0. We agree.
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