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| Started by | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-20 13:11 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000 |
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Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-20 13:11 +0000
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-20 15:32 +0100
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-20 21:31 +0000
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 08:39 +0000
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-09-21 11:47 +0200
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:27 +0200
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-09-21 22:00 +0400
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 21:15 +0000
Re: Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000
| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-20 13:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Mobile Battery Endurance and Efficiency Continuing to Improve |
| Message-ID | <118om21$34ooh$1@dont-email.me> |
I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data with the gory details all here. https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1460398 It includes the iphone 18 Pro/Pro Max, but not the Duo yet. Drilling down specifically to the big two brands we can see that since the inception of the EU ratings battery lifetime and efficiency has improved significantly. For Apple the Pro Max continues to be the one to get for the longest battery life: the 18 Pro Max has a huge - by Apple standards - 5391 mAh battery. The first Apple phone with >5,000 mAH. The average improvement in endurance is 44% between the 15 & 18 series although there are only two 18 models and spans four generations. https://i.postimg.cc/4d9ttvF3/Apple-Endurance.png For efficiency the 18 Pro is still significantly better than the others which are much of a muchness. The average efficiency gain is 19% between the 15 & 18 models. https://i.postimg.cc/Hn1MtJfd/Apple-Efficiency.png With Samsung, there's a 25% gain in endurance between the S25 and S26 ranges. The Plus and Ultra are top overall today and the FE is very marginally bottom. https://i.postimg.cc/4yRc1KrZ/Samsung-Endurance.png For efficiency, the gain is 23% between the S25?and S26 models. The smaller base model wins out marginally over the Plus/Ultra with again the FE trailing. Could this be the Samsung Exynos processor (in the FE) not being as effective as the Qualcomm Snapdragon? https://i.postimg.cc/brfnRGKq/Samsung-Efficiency.png I can have a look at the Pixels as well if there's interest. It's great to see such big improvements in battery life which is good for consumers. Whether the EU ratings have made a difference is an open question, but have this objective data to play with is definitely a bonus.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-20 15:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nha94hF9qf7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156049 |
Chris wrote: > I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-20 21:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <118pjan$3fuof$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156050 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data > It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of > everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target? It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is.
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| From | Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-21 08:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhc8pkFjdhvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156064 |
Den 2026-09-20 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >> Chris wrote: >> >>> I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data >> It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of >> everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target? > > It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is. > About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... :-) /Martin
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-21 11:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118quf8$24ad$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #156076 |
On 21.09.26 10:39, Martin Schöön wrote: > Den 2026-09-20 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: >> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>> Chris wrote: >>> >>>> I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data >>> It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of >>> everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target? >> >> It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is. >> > About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... > :-) > > /Martin They are superaccurate! But under conditions you will never be able to reproduce. -- "Ave! Morituri te salutant!"
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-21 12:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <hdd7omxj8s.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #156082 |
On 2026-09-21 11:47, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 21.09.26 10:39, Martin Schöön wrote: >> Den 2026-09-20 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: >>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>>> Chris wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data >>>> It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of >>>> everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target? >>> >>> It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is. >>> >> About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... >> :-) >> >> /Martin > > They are superaccurate! > But under conditions you will never be able to reproduce. That's true. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-21 22:00 +0400 |
| Message-ID | <118rrbi$2qj07$1@news.tcpreset.net> |
| In reply to | #156086 |
On 2026-09-21 13:27:29 +0000, Carlos E.R. said: >>> About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... >>> :-) >>> >>> /Martin >> >> They are superaccurate! >> But under conditions you will never be able to reproduce. > > That's true. Actually they were able to repeat the circumstances that Volkswagen ran their certification tests, as long as they didn't move the steering wheel.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-21 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <118s6pr$baj0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #156076 |
Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote: > Den 2026-09-20 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: >> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>> Chris wrote: >>> >>>> I've updated my analysis of the EU Mobile Battery Efficiency data >>> It's suspicious how few have 900 cycles, likely some side-effect of >>> everyone "rounding up" to make sure they hit the >800 cycle target? >> >> It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is. >> > About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... > :-) We can check with crowd-sourced data.
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| From | Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-22 07:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhepviF1a4aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156099 |
Den 2026-09-21 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: > Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote: >> Den 2026-09-20 skrev Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: >>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >>> >>> It's manufacturer provided information. Not sure how reliable it is. >>> >> About as accurate as car manufacturer are at reporting mileage... >> :-) > > We can check with crowd-sourced data. > Indeed. For cars we have (not the only one): http://www.spritmonitor.de/ /Martin
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