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SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

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  SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:28 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:27 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:39 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:38 -0700
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:58 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:12 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:36 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-12 20:40 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:52 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:44 +0200
                  Storage media availability over time (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:20 +0100
                    Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-16 10:01 -0800
                      Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 14:00 +0200
                        Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:22 +0200
                          Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:44 +0000
                            Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 19:22 +0100
                              Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 18:15 -0800
                                Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-19 07:58 +0100
                                  Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 23:15 -0800
                                    Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 15:36 +0000
                                      Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 08:23 -0800
                                        Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 16:59 +0000
                                          Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:04 -0800
                                            Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:15 +0200
                                              Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:19 -0800
                                                Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:29 +0200
                                                  Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 11:57 -0800
                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:13 +0200
                                                      Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:50 -0800
                                            Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 00:21 +0000
                                            Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:08 +0200
                                        Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 19:11 +0200
                                          Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 09:44 -0800
                                            Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 19:56 +0200
                                              Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:11 -0800
                                                Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:17 +0200
                                                  Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 10:24 -0800
                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 20:35 +0200
                                                      Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:04 -0800
                                                        Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:15 +0200
                                                          Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 13:02 -0800
                                                        Re: Storage media availability over time Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:26 +0000
                                      Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 17:33 +0000
                                        Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 09:51 -0800
                                          Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:48 +0000
                                            Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:13 -0800
                                              Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 20:25 +0000
                                                Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 12:55 -0800
                                                  Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0200
                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 20:32 -0800
                                                  Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 00:08 +0000
                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 20:36 -0800
                                                      Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-19 22:19 -0800
                                                          Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 12:45 +0000
                                                            Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 06:22 -0800
                                                              Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 15:22 +0000
                                                                Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 08:48 -0800
                                                                  Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 18:18 +0000
                                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-20 19:48 +0100
                                                                      Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 21:07 +0000
                                                                        Re: Storage media availability over time [Android Newsreader] AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 22:25 +0000
                                                    Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 14:35 +0000
                                                      Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-20 15:36 +0000
                                                        Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-20 08:53 -0800
                                              Re: Storage media availability over time Old Macdonald <eieio@patch.corn> - 2026-08-19 17:37 -0700
                                              Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 14:39 +0000
                                      Re: Storage media availability over time knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-19 18:17 -0400
                                        Re: Storage media availability over time AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-19 23:45 +0000
                                Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:06 +0200
                            Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:04 +0200
                              Re: Storage media availability over time Ch1ffr3punk <ch1ffr3punk@gmail.com> - 2026-08-20 21:09 +0000
                          Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-20 23:01 +0200
                            Re: Storage media availability over time Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 23:26 +0100
                    Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 13:29 +0200
                      Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 08:47 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-12 17:03 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:41 +0200
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-13 18:59 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:56 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:00 +0100
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:34 -0800
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:10 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:33 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:23 +0200
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:18 +0200
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-17 17:41 +0000
                              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 05:24 +0200
                                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:19 +0000
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:21 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-14 20:23 -0800
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:20 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:37 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:34 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:38 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 11:49 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-10 18:04 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:33 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-11 05:54 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:18 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0000
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:01 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:11 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:34 +0200
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-07 16:57 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:32 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-10 09:25 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 08:47 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:40 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:15 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 22:34 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:28 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:42 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 17:40 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:28 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 11:43 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 20:57 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:33 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:28 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:32 -0800
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 18:34 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:20 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 07:31 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 08:59 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-08-10 11:06 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 10:33 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 10:51 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 10:25 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 09:43 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 10:34 -0400
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:24 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 09:42 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
              [OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100

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#155099 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 2026-08-19 22:04, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> There's a reason I ask you to invest in a basic class in elementary logic.
>>
>> Flawed logic, that starts with your opinions, not undisputed facts.
> 
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> Without sd storage, people are forced to pay thru the nose to get it back.

No.


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#155107 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Without sd storage, people are forced to pay thru the nose to get it back.
> 
> No.

Let's focus on creating value that nobody else has ever seen, Carlos.
Below is an early pass at solving the problem inherent in this thread.

 Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.os.windows-10
 Subject: PSA: How to archive your EXACT homescreen(s) apps to Windows for perfect cross-platform backup/restore sans the net
 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 09:57:21 -0800
 Message-ID: <115nktv$15du$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Here is a snippet of what the resulting text file looks like.
The goal will be to turn it into a hierarchy creation tool on the sd card.

=== NOVA LAUNCHER ARCHIVE: FOLDERS & APPS ===

Folder: [ sys ] (ID: 28)
    - App: Nova Settings (com.teslacoilsw.launcher)
    - App: Terminal Emulator (jackpal.androidterm)
    - App: Keepass2Android (keepass2android.keepass2android)
    - App: AppOpsX (com.zzzmode.appopsx)
    - App: android (org.billthefarmer.editor)
    - App: System UI demo mode (com.android.systemui)
    - App: Moto (com.motorola.moto)
    - App: EDS Lite (com.sovworks.edslite)
    - App: Better Open With (com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith)
    - App: AdClear (com.seven.adclear)
    - App: Torchie (in.blogspot.anselmbros.torchie)
    - App: ConnectBot (org.connectbot)
    - App: Auto Auto-Rotate (com.jarsilio.android.autoautorotate)
    - App: NotificationLog (de.jl.notificationlog)
    - App: FakeStandby (android.jonas.fakestandby)
    - App: Finder (ru.seva.finder)
    - App: Easy Voice Typing in All Languages (com.voicetyping.alllanguages.speechtotext.englishconverter)
    - App: Buttons remapper (com.irishin.buttonsremapper)
    - App: Key Mapper (io.github.sds100.keymapper)
    - App: Button Mapper (flar2.homebutton)
    - App: Access Dots (you.in.spark.access.dots)
    - App: Auto Start (com.autostart)
    - App: Autostarts (com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts)
    - App: Autorun Manager (com.rs.autorun)
    - App: UnifiedNlp (org.microg.nlp)
    - App: Permission Friendly Apps (org.androidsoft.app.permission)
    - App: Developer Tools (com.roysolberg.android.developertools)
    - App: Logcat Reader (com.dp.logcatapp)
    - App: Dalvik Explorer (org.jessies.dalvikexplorer)
    - App: ManifestViewer (jp.susatthi.ManifestViewer)
    - App: SetEdit (by4a.setedit22)
    - App: Shortcut Widgets (com.cemique.shortcutwidgets)
    - App: NetGuard (eu.faircode.netguard)
    - App: CPU-Z (com.cpuid.cpu_z)
    - App: Share to Clipboard (com.tengu.sharetoclipboard)
    - App: OpenBoard (org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin)
    - App: CheckFirm (com.illusion.checkfirm)
    - App: Automate (com.llamalab.automate)
    - App: NetGuard (eu.faircode.netguard)
    - App: Termux (com.termux)
    - App: LADB (com.draco.ladb)
    - App: Clipboard Actions (de.halfreal.clipboardactions)
    - App: Shortcut Maker (rk.android.app.shortcutmaker)
    - App: Inspector (ussr.razar.inspector)
    - App: Website Shortcut (com.deltacdev.websiteshortcut)
    - App: Create Shortcut (com.alextern.shortcuthelper)
    - App: OpenBoard valencià (com.softwarevalencia.openboard.inputmethod.latin)
    - App: Sesame (ninja.sesame.app.edge)
    - App: Keyboard (com.simplemobiletools.keyboard)
    - App: Flashlight (com.simplemobiletools.flashlight)
    - App: Doodly (tuple.me.dtools)
    - App: Timed Shutdown (com.maforn.timedshutdown)
    - App: Aegis (com.beemdevelopment.aegis)
    - App: HeliBoard (helium314.keyboard)
    - App: TeamViewer (com.teamviewer.teamviewer.market.mobile)
    - App: Automate (com.llamalab.automate)
    - App: Whisper+ (org.woheller69.whisperplus)
    - App: TC (net.kollnig.missioncontrol)
    - App: App Ops (rikka.appops)
    - App: Shizuku (moe.shizuku.privileged.api)
    - App: Permission Manager X (com.mirfatif.permissionmanagerx)
    - App: Easer (ryey.easer)
    - App: AnySoftKeyboard (com.menny.android.anysoftkeyboard)
    - App: Transcribro (dev.soupslurpr.transcribro)
    - App: Neo Backup (com.machiav3lli.backup)
    - App: Shelter (net.typeblog.shelter)
    - App: Caffeine (moe.zhs.caffeine)
    - App: LADB (com.draco.ladb)

Folder: [ comms ] (ID: 30)
    - App: GoogleContacts (com.google.android.contacts)
    - App: Email (org.dystopia.email)
    - App: Messages (com.google.android.apps.messaging)
    - App: 2ndLine (com.enflick.android.tn2ndLine)
    - App: Hangouts (com.google.android.talk)
    - App: Hangouts Dialer (com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer)
    - App: textPlus (com.gogii.textplus)
    - App: Meet (com.google.android.apps.meetings)
    - App: Zoom (us.zoom.videomeetings)
    - App: Contacts Import (eu.stargw.contactsimport)
    - App: Contacts Merge (com.orgware.contactsmerge)
    - App: 123 Contacts Backup And Transfer (gr.alterora.apps.contacts)
    - App: SMS Forwarder (cz.psencik.smsforwarder.direct)
    - App: Contact Eraser (contacteraser.mobile.mypapit.net.contacteraser)
    - App: UntrackMe (app.fedilab.nitterizeme)
    - App: SMS Messenger (com.simplemobiletools.smsmessenger)
    - App: CallerID (com.integralblue.callerid)
    - App: Yet Another Call Blocker (dummydomain.yetanothercallblocker)
    - App: Scam Shield (com.tmobile.services.nameid)
    - App: SMS Backup & Restore (com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore)
    - App: Bluetooth Chat (com.glodanif.bluetoothchat)
    - App: Signal (com.raxis.signalapp)
    - App: OfflineChat (com.offlinechatapp.android)
    - App: Bridgefy (me.bridgefy.main)
    - App: Rumble (org.disrupted.rumble)
    - App: PulsePoint (mobi.firedepartment)
    - App: Contacts (com.simplemobiletools.contacts)
    - App: SMS Backup+ (com.zegoggles.smssync)
    - App: SMS Backup & Restore (com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore)
    - App: SMS Forwarder (cz.psencik.smsforwarder.direct)
    - App: GPS to SMS (ru.perm.trubnikov.gps2sms)
    - App: SlimSocial (it.rignanese.leo.slimfacebook)
    - App: Signal (org.thoughtcrime.securesms)
    - App: Phone (com.samsung.android.dialer)
    - App: Scam Shield (com.tmobile.services.nameid)
    - App: Outlook (com.microsoft.office.outlook)
    - App: Messages (com.samsung.android.messaging)
    - App: LinkedIn (com.linkedin.android)
    - App: K-9 Mail (com.fsck.k9)
    - App: origContacts (com.samsung.android.app.contacts)
    - App: Voice (com.google.android.apps.googlevoice)
    - App: SMS Alert (com.healthappy.smsalert)
    - App: SOS Beacon and Locator (io.github.ilisevic.SOSbasic)
    - App: Nine (com.ninefolders.hd3)
    - App: Tutanota (de.tutao.tutanota)
    - App: Open Mail (com.deependhulla.opemail)
    - App: Proton Mail (ch.protonmail.android)
    - App: textPlus (com.gogii.textplus)
    - App: Contacts Optimizer (com.compelson.optimizer)
    - App: Contacts Import (eu.stargw.contactsimport)
    - App: ContactsManager (com.ihubin.contactsmanager)
    - App: Koler (com.chooloo.www.koler)
    - App: smtContacts (com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro)
    - App: Phone (com.samsung.android.dialer)
    - App: WA Dialer (com.applaudsoft.wabi.wad)
    - App: Auto Speaker (com.hanan.android.ramkol)
    - App: Call Recorder (com.giga_recorderapp.callrecording)
    - App: Fake Contacts (me.billdietrich.fake_contacts)
    - App: Contacts (cz.psencik.com.android.contacts)
    - App: OpenContacts (opencontacts.open.com.opencontacts)
    - App: Meshtastic (com.geeksville.mesh)
    - App: smtDialer (com.simplemobiletools.dialer)
    - App: Contact Diary (de.dieterthiess.contactdiary2)
    - App: Contacts Import (net.stargw.contactsimport)
    - App: SD Contacts (cx.vmx.sdcontacts)
    - App: SMS Import / Export (com.github.tmo1.sms_ie)
    - App: Import Contacts (am.ed.importcontacts)
    - App: Export Contacts (am.ed.exportcontacts)
    - App: Contact Book (de.hskl.contacts)
    - App: Contacts (de.ritscher.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro)
    - App: Contacts (de.ritscher.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro)
    - App: Private Contacts (hazar.studio.privatecontacts)
    - App: Private Contacts (ch.abwesend.privatecontacts)
    - App: Proton Mail (ch.protonmail.android)
    - App: Nextcloud (com.nextcloud.client)
    - App: Messages (com.messages.chat)
    - App: Beeper (com.beeper.chat)
    - App: ACR Phone (com.nll.cb)
    - App: NLL Store (com.nll.store)
    - App: APH (com.nll.helper)
    - App: Wabi (com.applaudsoft.wabi.virtual_number)
    - App: Click to chat (com.trianguloy.openInWhatsapp)
    - App: Wabi (com.applaudsoft.wabi.virtual_number)
    - App: Click to chat (com.trianguloy.openInWhatsapp)
    - App: SMS Messenger (com.simplemobiletools.smsmessenger)
    - App: PermissionSlip (org.consumerreports.permissionslip.production)
    - App: Phonebook (ml.bluelinestudio.privatecontact)
    - App: Sideline (com.sideline.phone.number)
    - App: 2nd Line (me.number.app.im)
    - App: Kik (kik.android)
    - App: NewsGroup (mod.piaohong.newsgroup)
    - App: AI Chat (ai.chat.gpt.app)
    - App: FairEmail (eu.faircode.email)
    - App: Session (network.loki.messenger)
    - App: WhatsApp (com.whatsapp)

Folder: [ todo ] (ID: 38)
    - App: Simpletask (nl.mpcjanssen.simpletask)
    - App: Tasks (org.tasks)
    - App: Barcode Scanner (com.google.zxing.client.android)
    - App: QR Code Reader (me.scan.android.client)
    - App: Binary Eye (de.markusfisch.android.binaryeye)
    - App: OI Shopping List (org.openintents.shopping)
    - App: ShoLi (name.soulayrol.rhaa.sholi)
    - App: Simply Do (kdk.android.simplydo)
    - App: Shopping List (privacyfriendlyshoppinglist.secuso.org.privacyfriendlyshoppinglist)
    - App: Shopping List (com.woefe.shoppinglist)
    - App: 1List (com.lolo.io.onelist)
    - App: Notes (com.simplemobiletools.notes.pro)
    - App: notes (com.bijoysingh.quicknote)
    - App: dollarstore (click.dummer.textthing)
    - App: local (info.aario.snotepad)
    - App: datedtodo (org.billthefarmer.diary)
    - App: webbuy (com.aa.mynotes)
    - App: parts (com.alaskalinuxuser.justnotes)
    - App: Notes (com.simplemobiletools.notes)
    - App: Habits (org.isoron.uhabits)
    - App: QRCode & Barcode scanner (com.github.andremiras.qrscan)
    - App: Joplin (net.cozic.joplin)
    - App: QuickDic (de.reimardoeffinger.quickdic)
    - App: QuickEdit (com.rhmsoft.edit)
    - App: local cklst (jakiganicsystems.simplestchecklist)
    - App: Check List (com.flt.checklist)
    - App: Check Off (name.obrien.dave.lister)
    - App: costco (com.kenzap.checklist)
    - App: Retro Text Editor (click.dummer.textthing)
    - App: QuickEdit (com.rhmsoft.edit)
    - App: FX (nextapp.fx)
    - App: Editor (org.billthefarmer.editor)
    - App: TEdit (com.atr.tedit)
    - App: Checklist (com.checklist.android)
    - App: Samsung Notes (com.samsung.android.app.notes)
    - App: QR Scanner (com.secuso.privacyFriendlyCodeScanner)
    - App: Calculator (com.sec.android.app.popupcalculator)
    - App: Tasks (org.dmfs.tasks)
    - App: Notepad (pallob.loop.com.notepad)
    - App: Text Edit (org.spectralsoft.textedit)
    - App: Industrial Utility (org.aplicacion.jesuspc.pruebabarra)
    - App: NCalc+ (com.duy.calculator.free)
    - App: Tasks (org.dmfs.tasks)
    - App: To-Do List (org.secuso.privacyfriendlytodolist)
    - App: SilentNotes (ch.martinstoeckli.silentnotes)
    - App: Simple Text Editor (com.maxistar.textpad)
    - App: Obsidian (md.obsidian)

Folder: [ pic ] (ID: 42)
    - App: Camera (com.motorola.camera2)
    - App: smtGallery (com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro)
    - App: Open Camera (net.sourceforge.opencamera)
    - App: smtCamera (com.simplemobiletools.camera)
    - App: smtDraw (com.simplemobiletools.draw.pro)
    - App: penguin (com.google.android.GoogleCamera)
    - App: WhatsDeleted (com.gmail.anubhavdas54.whatsdeleted)
    - App: Audio Screenshot (audioscreenshot.awesomeapps.com.audioscreenshot)
    - App: wmu (com.nikon.wu.wmau)
    - App: Vector Camera (com.dozingcatsoftware.vectorcamera)
    - App: Scrambled Exif (com.jarsilio.android.scrambledeggsif)
    - App: Pocket Paint (org.catrobat.paintroid)
    - App: LLCrop (lossless) (de.k3b.android.lossless_jpg_crop)
    - App: Imagepipe (de.kaffeemitkoffein.imagepipe)
    - App: Screenshot Assistant (pl.waskysoft.screenshotassistant)
    - App: Material Icon Maker (com.arunsoft.icon)
    - App: Screenshot Assistant (pl.waskysoft.screenshotassistant)
    - App: wichaya (com.google.android.apps.cameralite)
    - App: PGCam (com.google.android.GoogleCamera)
    - App: Gallery (org.Gallery.App)
    - App: Gallery (com.adfree.Gallery)
    - App: Gallery (adfree.gallery)
    - App: Gallery (org.Gallery.Pro)
    - App: Gallery ICS (com.moblynx.galleryicsold)
    - App: Gallery (com.sybu.simplegallery)
    - App: Camera Roll (us.koller.cameraroll)
    - App: A Photo Manager (de.k3b.android.androFotoFinder)
    - App: LeafPic Revived (com.alienpants.leafpicrevived)
    - App: PhotoChiotte (la.daube.photochiotte)
    - App: Arcticons (com.donnnno.arcticons)
    - App: Cameringo Lite (com.perracolabs.cpd)
    - App: Cameringo Lite (com.perracolabs.cpd)
    - App: ProCam X Lite (com.intermedia.hd.camera.professional)
    - App: ProCam X Lite (com.intermedia.hd.camera.professional)
    - App: Camera Go (com.google.android.apps.cameralite)
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    - App: weZoom (de.stoehr.loviapps.wezoom)
    - App: Photok (dev.leonlatsch.photok)
    - App: Peephole (com.sixcarrots.peephole)
    - App: PRO Motion Detector Camera (com.sjm.camera)
    - App: Smb Security Camera (com.d136.smbsecuritycamera)
    - App: PhotoTrap (com.remoteguard.phototrap)
    - App: Camera (pinguin2001.penguingcam)
    - App: Snapseed (com.niksoftware.snapseed)
    - App: DS Photo Editor (com.dsphotoeditor.demoapp)
    - App: Inker (co.inker)
    - App: Camera (com.sec.android.app.camera)
    - App: Aves (deckers.thibault.aves)
    - App: Awesome Icons (com.momocode.shortcuts)
    - App: Pixl (net.braincake.pixl.pixl)
    - App: LuX Free (com.jndapp.lux.free.iconpack)
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    - App: Exif Viewer (com.aminbeheshti.exifviewer)
    - App: Open Camera (net.sourceforge.opencamera)
    - App: Camera2 Probe (com.airbeat.device.inspector)
    - App: Photo/Video Compressor (com.sybu.imageresizer)
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    - App: Image Toolbox (ru.tech.imageresizershrinker)

Folder: [ files ] (ID: 57)
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    - App: Simple Explorer (com.dnielfe.manager)
    - App: MuPDF viewer (com.artifex.mupdf.viewer.app)
    - App: Keepass2Android (keepass2android.keepass2android)
    - App: EDS Lite (com.sovworks.edslite)
    - App: WhatsDeleted (com.gmail.anubhavdas54.whatsdeleted)
    - App: smtFile Manager (com.simplemobiletools.filemanager.pro)
    - App: Sketches (org.secuso.privacyfriendlysketching)
    - App: Dir (com.veniosg.dir)
    - App: Files.nbu (com.google.android.apps.nbu.files)
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    - App: WebDAV server (com.theolivetree.webdavserver)
    - App: Helium (com.koushikdutta.backup)
    - App: Sync (com.resilio.sync)
    - App: SMS Backup & Restore (com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore)
    - App: SyncMe (com.bv.wifisync)
    - App: MiX (com.mixplorer)
    - App: FX (nextapp.fx)
    - App: Cx File Explorer (com.cxinventor.file.explorer)
    - App: X-plore (com.lonelycatgames.Xplore)
    - App: ownCloud (com.owncloud.android)
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    - App: Share to Clipboard (com.tengu.sharetoclipboard)
    - App: LPD (com.blackspruce.lpd)
    - App: File Explorer (net.micode.fileexplorer)
    - App: Pen&PDF (com.cgogolin.penandpdf)
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    - App: FV File Explorer (com.folderv.file)

Folder: [ auto ] (ID: 63)
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#155140 — Re: Storage media availability over time

This whole too-and fro-ing is boring.

On 2026-08-19, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> There's a reason I ask you to invest in a basic class in elementary logic.
>> 
>> Flawed logic, that starts with your opinions, not undisputed facts.
>
> Without sd storage, people are forced to pay thru the nose to get it back.

I don't have sd storage, and I'm not paying anything. This one counter 
example means the above statement is false.

Thing is, though, that very often we argue/discuss about things without 
being sufficiently precise to apply pure logic - like the statement above.

Sometimes you just need to stand back and ask yourself is it worth 
all the time and  typing - for what, proving your better than others?
It is pretty boring to watch - def. not a popcorn moment

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#155079 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Disclaimer: Contentless Discussions R Us.

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/26 12:15 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> 
> >Google, for example, just like Apple, does not provide the sd card because
> 
> I haven't used my card slot in many years. When my 7 year old phone finally
>  does go bad my reasons for a choice of a new one won't depend on a card
>  slot. In fact I'll probably look for one that doesn't have one. Just an
>  extra hole to get dirt in.

  It may depend on the brand/model phone, but for our Samsung Galaxy A51
phones, it's not an extra hole. It's the same hole/tray as for the
(dual) SIMs.

  I think most phones still have a SIM tray, so unless a phone is
eSIM-only, it's probably not an extra hole.

>			      I have 100GB available online for the data I
>  need so I'll likely not use all that much internal storage either. I
>  suspect most of the buying public is like me and are quite happy with no
>  slot. And Google and the competition are likely just giving the general
>  market what it wants.
> 
> >they make far more billions by having you buy back the functionality.
> 
> My online 100GB Google storage costs me less than $2 a month (US) so they
>  won't be making all that much $$ back from me. YMMV...

  Are you crazy!? You are *paying* for storage!? What about
every-thing-for-free!? Like Arlen's SD-cards ... oops! :-)

  I am (actually was) paying for Usenet access. How stupid is *that*!?

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#155082 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> My online 100GB Google storage costs me less than $2 a month (US) so they
>>  won't be making all that much $$ back from me. YMMV...
> 
>   Are you crazy!? You are *paying* for storage!

Hi Frank,

My suggestion is you take a basic course in logic, Frank.
Because your argument sd storage is more expensive is ridiculous, Frank.

I get it you're desperate to find something (anything!) to insult me on,
but every time you try to insult me, you just prove that it's baseless.

Do you have any idea how much 128GB or 256GB of sd storage costs nowadays?
No?

Seriously?
You have absolutely no idea at all how much sd storage costs, Frank?

If you have no idea how much sd cards cost, then every argument you make in
your desperation to insult me, is absurd, Frank. You have no idea of costs.

The fact is 128GB or 256GB of internal storage costs 'something'.
But you have no idea how much it costs. That's obvious by what you wrote.

Likewise, 128GB or 256GB of forever cloud storage also costs 'something'.
And yet, again and again you prove you have no idea what that costs.

You have no idea what *anything* costs, Frank.

And yet, your claim that sd storage is more expensive than those is absurd,
which, after all, is your argument, Frank... which is simply absurd.

Next time you're desperate to insult me Frank, at least don't propose your
utterly absurd argument that sd store is more expensive than the others.

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#155092 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >> My online 100GB Google storage costs me less than $2 a month (US) so they
> >>  won't be making all that much $$ back from me. YMMV...
> > 
> >   Are you crazy!? You are *paying* for storage!
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> My suggestion is you take a basic course in logic, Frank.

  You clearly have *no* idea who you're talking to.

> Because your argument sd storage is more expensive is ridiculous, Frank.

  I never said any such thing. That's *your* kind of 'logic', claiming
people hold a position which they clearly don't.

[Umpteen more logic and reading-for-comprehension failures deleted.]

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#155097 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> My suggestion is you take a basic course in logic, Frank.
> 
>   You clearly have *no* idea who you're talking to.
> 
>> Because your argument sd storage is more expensive is ridiculous, Frank.
> 
>   I never said any such thing. That's *your* kind of 'logic', claiming
> people hold a position which they clearly don't.
> 
> [Umpteen more logic and reading-for-comprehension failures deleted.]

Hi Frank,

First off, if you're going to try to insult me, at least own the common
courtesy to use adequate grammar, as it's insulting to me that you can't
even garner a third or fourth grade grasp of grammatical basics.

Every time you write in this newsgroup, your lack of education shows
itself, so all I ask is you run your attempts through a grammar checker.

You've never once in your entire life ever found any of my arguments to be
illogical because I happen to own a grasp that you can't possibly fathom.

In your desperation to attempt to insult me, I ask only that you look up
the costs of the following types of common storage for Android phones.

1. Cost of adding 256GB to a 64GB phone like my Samsung Galaxy is
   (where, let's be clear, I easily store over a thousand packages)

2. Cost of buying 256GB of forever storage on the cloud (plus Internet).

3. Cost of buying a phone larger than 64GB of internal storage
   that has at least 256GB of internal storage.

I realize you have no idea what those costs are, but allow me to state that
when/if you ever do begin to obtain even an inkling of the costs, you'll
find out that the difference in costs are vast.

That you don't know that, and yet you still are desperate to try to insult
me, is what I am responding to, Frank.

At least if you're desperate to insult me, Frank, have your facts known.

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#155100 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 8/19/26 1:13 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:

>First off [Frank], if you're going to try to insult me, at least own the common
>courtesy to use adequate grammar, as it's insulting to me that you can't
>even garner a third or fourth grade grasp of grammatical basics 
>Every time you write in this newsgroup, your lack of education shows
>itself, so all I ask is you run your attempts through a grammar checker.

Usenet English cops are assholes.

Did I get that sentence correct?

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#155104 — Re: Storage media availability over time

AJL wrote:
> Did I get that sentence correct?

Depends on the plurality rules of whom you're speaking about, AJL... :)

BTW, I wouldn't normally bring up Frank's lousy grammar unless/until he 
tries to insult me since it's insulting that someone tries to insult me who 
can't comprehend even the most basic of grammatical rules, don't you think? 

Anyway, there are likely only two or three people on this newsgroup who can 
help me solve this problem below that I started working on further today.

 Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.os.windows-10
 Subject: PSA: How to archive your EXACT homescreen(s) apps to Windows for perfect cross-platform backup/restore sans the net
 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 09:57:21 -0800
 Message-ID: <115nktv$15du$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Here's my current python script which needs tweaking, where the overall 
goal is to be able to archive APKs to the desktop in the exact same 
hierarchy as those app icon shortcuts are stored on our homescreen(s).

It's better for us to spend our energy improving that script than 
being desperate to insult each other (which is what Frank was doing).

  # -------------------------------------------------------------------
  # novasql.py 
  #  Parse nova.db binary SQL database using "python novasql.py"
  #   python novasql.py > result.txt
  # -------------------------------------------------------------------
  # The "favorites" table stores app shortcuts and folder containers.
  # -------------------------------------------------------------------
  # v1p2 20260819 Cleaned up the output a bit to make it more readable
  # v1p1 20260819 Try to map which app packages live inside each folder
  # v1p0 20260819 Spits out the nova.db into a human-readable text file
  # -------------------------------------------------------------------
  import sys
  import sqlite3
  
  sys.stdout.reconfigure(encoding="utf-8")
  
  conn = sqlite3.connect("nova.db")
  cursor = conn.cursor()
  
  print("=== NOVA LAUNCHER ARCHIVE: FOLDERS & APPS ===\n")
  
  # 1. Fetch folders (items where intent is null/None and have a title)
  cursor.execute(
      "SELECT _id, title FROM favorites WHERE intent IS NULL AND title IS NOT"
      " NULL;"
  )
  folders = cursor.fetchall()
  
  for folder_id, folder_name in folders:
    print(f"Folder: [ {folder_name} ] (ID: {folder_id})")
  
    # 2. Fetch apps inside this folder (where container matches the folder's _id)
    cursor.execute(
        "SELECT title, intent FROM favorites WHERE container = ?;", (folder_id,)
    )
    items = cursor.fetchall()
  
    if items:
      for app_title, intent in items:
        pkg = "Unknown"
        if intent and "component=" in intent:
          try:
            part = intent.split("component=")[1]
            pkg = part.split("/")[0]
          except IndexError:
            pkg = intent
        print(f"    - App: {app_title} ({pkg})")
    else:
      print("    - (Empty folder or layout reference)")
    print()
  
  # 3. List top-level apps not inside folders for completeness
  print("=== TOP-LEVEL / LOOSE HOME SCREEN APPS ===")
  cursor.execute(
      "SELECT title, intent FROM favorites WHERE container < 0 AND intent IS NOT"
      " NULL;"
  )
  for row in cursor.fetchall():
    app_title, intent = row
    pkg = "Unknown"
    if intent and "component=" in intent:
      try:
        part = intent.split("component=")[1]
        pkg = part.split("/")[0]
      except IndexError:
        pkg = intent
    print(f"- {app_title} ({pkg})")
  
  conn.close()
  # end of novasql.py

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#155111 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 2026-08-19 22:55, Maria Sophia wrote:
> AJL wrote:
>> Did I get that sentence correct?
> 
> Depends on the plurality rules of whom you're speaking about, AJL... :)
> 
> BTW, I wouldn't normally bring up Frank's lousy grammar unless/until he
> tries to insult me since it's insulting that someone tries to insult me who
> can't comprehend even the most basic of grammatical rules, don't you think?
> 
> Anyway, there are likely only two or three people on this newsgroup who can
> help me solve this problem below that I started working on further today.
> 
>   Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows,alt.comp.os.windows-10
>   Subject: PSA: How to archive your EXACT homescreen(s) apps to Windows for perfect cross-platform backup/restore sans the net
>   Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 09:57:21 -0800
>   Message-ID: <115nktv$15du$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

Don't do this. It is bad Usenet manners. Keep things in their own 
threads. This is spamming.


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#155121 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Don't do this. It is bad Usenet manners. Keep things in their own 
> threads. This is spamming.

Ok. But just a heads' up that I'm gonna work on creating functionality that
you've never seen in your life, which I've never seen in my life too.

It's already working, but of course, there's a lot of debugging necessary.
The good news is it's a better use of my time than arguing about sd cards.

Especially since it will duplicate the entire Android setup on the sdcard!

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#155113 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 8/19/26 1:55 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>AJL wrote:
>> Did I get that sentence correct?
>
>Depends on the plurality rules of whom you're speaking about, AJL... :)
>
>BTW, I wouldn't normally bring up Frank's lousy grammar unless/until he 
>tries to insult me since it's insulting that someone tries to insult me who 
>can't comprehend even the most basic of grammatical rules, don't you think? 

Nope. I never noticed a grammar problem. But then I have my own problems so
 just ignore and carry on. (Almost) anything's better than a dead group...

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#155122 — Re: Storage media availability over time

AJL wrote:
> (Almost) anything's better than a dead group...

I'm going to invest my valuable time in creating functionality you've never
seen in your life, as I've never seen this functionality in my life either.

It's already working, but of course, there's a lot of debugging necessary.
The good news is it's a better use of my time than arguing about sd cards.

The good news is it duplicates the entire Android phone homescreen, with
all the same folder names, locations, app names, and exact same versions.

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#155125 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 8/19/26 9:36 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>AJL wrote:

>> (Almost) anything's better than a dead group...

>I'm going to invest my valuable time in creating functionality you've never
>seen in your life, as I've never seen this functionality in my life either.
>It's already working, but of course, there's a lot of debugging necessary.
>The good news is it's a better use of my time than arguing about sd cards.
>The good news is it duplicates the entire Android phone homescreen, with
>all the same folder names, locations, app names, and exact same versions.

Sounds like a lot of work for the few folks still monitoring this group.
 Hopefully with all that work you're also posting elsewhere. I'm happy with
 my home screens so even if I understood it I likely wouldn't use it but
 still, as I said, I'm glad to see the traffic...

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#155126 — Re: Storage media availability over time

AJL wrote:
> Sounds like a lot of work for the few folks still monitoring this group.
>  Hopefully with all that work you're also posting elsewhere. 

Well, I love to be efficient on Android, where I'm at version 2.1 currently
(which is 21 versions plus another dozen of earlier-in-the-day attempts).

Yes. I posted it to XDA Developers, but I'm so far ahead of most people in 
terms of efficient backup & restore that I don't expect many to test it.

> I'm happy with
>  my home screens so even if I understood it I likely wouldn't use it but
>  still, as I said, I'm glad to see the traffic...

I'm not on Usenet for entertainment. I'm here to do things nobody else can
do, and to contribute to the newsgroup in ways that nobody else can do.

So, instead of arguing endlessly about why sd cards do things that people
simply don't understand, at least I wrote some code that people can use!

The code runs on Windows, but there's nothing stopping it from running on
any desktop, and, interestingly, it can run on Android if I wanted it to.

It takes every pane of your homescreen (e.g., pane 0, pane 1, pane 2, etc., 
and then it takes every folder on that pane (e.g., archivers, browsers,
calendars, databases, editors, finance, games, etc.) and then it puts into
those folders every package that was found in those folders, and every APK
for that package, with the exact subversion listed in the folder name.

Then when it's all done, it creates a Windows batch script which we can use
to re-create the exact folder hierarchy, with the exact APK subversions.

In my humble opinion, this is functionality that exists nowhere else on
earth, and as such, is a much better use of my time than endlessly arguing
with people who don't understand what an sdcard is, which gets us nowhere.

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#155128 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 8/19/26 11:19 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>AJL wrote:

>I'm not on Usenet for entertainment. I'm here to do things nobody else can
>do, and to contribute to the newsgroup in ways that nobody else can do.

YMMV. I enjoy Usenet for entertainment. It came with one of my dialup
 services decades ago and I never left.

>So, instead of arguing endlessly about why sd cards do things that people
>simply don't understand, at least I wrote some code that people can use!

YMMV. I find the "arguments" interesting.

>The code runs on Windows, but there's nothing stopping it from running on
>any desktop, and, interestingly, it can run on Android if I wanted it to.

I'm looking at Windows toys again. Amazon can have one on my doorstep in a
 few hours. Amazing.

>Then when it's all done, it creates a Windows batch script which we can use
>to re-create the exact folder hierarchy, with the exact APK subversions.

All Greek to me but please carry on with the arguments. I do find those
 interesting...

>In my humble opinion, this is functionality that exists nowhere else on
>earth, and as such, is a much better use of my time than endlessly arguing
>with people who don't understand what an sdcard is, which gets us nowhere.

But of course you're in control. No response keeps you out of arguments...

On topic: I just tried to post this with my Lenovo Tab One Android tablet
 using PhoNews and it now refuses to post at all. Hopefully it still works
 on this Chromebook. Why don't you write a good Android Usenet app. Now that
 I need...

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#155130 — Re: Storage media availability over time

AJL wrote:
> Why don't you write a good Android Usenet app.

You do know that I wrote my own Usenet newsreader, do you not?

It started on Centos, with help from Marek Novotny (RIP).

Then I kludged it over to Windows where it's been ever since.

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#155134 — Re: Storage media availability over time

Maria Sophia wrote:
>AJL wrote:

>> Why don't you write a good Android Usenet app.

>You do know that I wrote my own Usenet newsreader, do you not?
>It started on Centos, with help from Marek Novotny (RIP).
>Then I kludged it over to Windows where it's been ever since.

Ah. Well on Windows I always used Thunderbird. I preferred an older version
 so I could turn off the updates...

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#155138 — Re: Storage media availability over time

AJL wrote:
>>> Why don't you write a good Android Usenet app.
> 
>>You do know that I wrote my own Usenet newsreader, do you not?
>>It started on Centos, with help from Marek Novotny (RIP).
>>Then I kludged it over to Windows where it's been ever since.
> 
> Ah. Well on Windows I always used Thunderbird. I preferred an older version
>  so I could turn off the updates...

Regarding Thunderbird, many (many!) years ago, I tried the TB newsreader.
I felt it treated Usenet too much like email, so I ditched it pronto.

It may be better now for all I know, but if it doesn't bring up gvim
on Windows, and/or if it doesn't allow me to fudge headers, then it's crap.

On Android, K9 got taken over by the TB team, as I recall, but I don't
think that they added a newsreader capability, but I've not looked lately.

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#155142 — Re: Storage media availability over time

On 8/20/26 9:48 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>AJL wrote:

>>on Windows I always used Thunderbird. I preferred an older version
>>so I could turn off the updates...

>Regarding Thunderbird, many (many!) years ago, I tried the TB newsreader.
>I felt it treated Usenet too much like email, so I ditched it pronto.

YMMV

>On Android, K9 got taken over by the TB team, as I recall, but I don't
>think that they added a newsreader capability, but I've not looked lately.

My favorite Android newsreader was Groundhog. I still used it for reading
 Usenet until just a few days ago When Amazon updated my Fire tablet and
 completely broke it. By Groundhog, it was a fun journey over the years
 (sniff)...

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