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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100 |
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SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:39 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:38 -0700
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:58 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:12 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:36 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-12 20:40 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:52 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:44 +0200
Storage media availability over time (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:20 +0100
Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-16 10:01 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-12 17:03 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:41 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-13 18:59 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:56 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:00 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:34 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:10 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:33 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:23 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:21 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-14 20:23 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:20 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:37 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:38 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 11:49 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-10 18:04 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:33 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-11 05:54 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:10 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:18 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:01 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:11 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-07 16:57 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:32 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-10 09:25 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 08:47 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:40 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:15 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 22:34 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:28 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:42 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 17:40 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:28 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 11:43 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 20:57 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:33 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:28 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:32 -0800
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 18:34 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:20 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 07:31 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 08:59 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-08-10 11:06 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 10:33 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 10:51 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 10:25 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 09:43 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 10:34 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:24 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 09:42 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
[OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400 |
| Subject | SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <3nca7lpjauvvm8fklr0k2jd4h9divrknpe@4ax.com> |
So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model
that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or
B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim.
If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim
slot?
Are there those that have all 3?
2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my
late lamented Xiaomi phone. The standard seems to be Samsung, is that
right? Are there other less expensive brands that are more like
Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mamb7lh0cdfr4klsnl7bjiulue8es4lt4g@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154741 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:29:34 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model >that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or > B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim. > >If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim >slot? > >Are there those that have all 3? Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? When I saw my battery failing, I had time to back up most of what was in my phone, but if I had stored everything possible on an SD card, I wouldn't have needed warning or last-minute actions. I'm surprised I didn't see suggestions to keep things in external storage for this reason, but certainly some people already know, so why would expensive phones be dropping SD cards? >2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my >late lamented Xiaomi phone. The standard seems to be Samsung, is that >right? Are there other less expensive brands that are more like >Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndm96bFq1m9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154747 |
On Fri, 07 Aug 2026 09:15:22 -0400, micky wrote: > Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google > Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? I've had a Nexus 5X, Pixel 3, Pixel 6 and now a Pixel 10. None of them have microSD cards. Data is stored, encrypted, on my Pixel. > When I saw my battery failing, I had time to back up most of what was in > my phone, but if I had stored everything possible on an SD card, I > wouldn't have needed warning or last-minute actions. > > I'm surprised I didn't see suggestions to keep things in external > storage for this reason, but certainly some people already know, so why > would expensive phones be dropping SD cards? Pictures made with the camera can be stored on Google Drive/Photos. What else is there to lose, music? I've got a backup as well on my PC, but I wouldn't really loose much if my phone got lost or broken. -- s|b
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ndm9k2Fq725U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154752 |
s|b wrote: > micky wrote: > >> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google >> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? > > I've had a Nexus 5X, Pixel 3, Pixel 6 and now a Pixel 10. None of them > have microSD cards. Data is stored, encrypted, on my Pixel. I had (still have actually) a Nexus 1, it has a microSD card, but was the only phone from Google to do so ...
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <1154tlu$2gn6$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #154753 |
On 07.08.26 16:50, Andy Burns wrote: > s|b wrote: > >> micky wrote: >> >>> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google >>> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? >> >> I've had a Nexus 5X, Pixel 3, Pixel 6 and now a Pixel 10. None of them >> have microSD cards. Data is stored, encrypted, on my Pixel. > > I had (still have actually) a Nexus 1, it has a microSD card, but was > the only phone from Google to do so ... Even my Nexus 5X did not have a SD slot back in 2026 and Pixels never had one. The biggest player in the smartphone arena never offered SD slots. They are out of time for more than 10 years. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <1154tnj$2gvu$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #154759 |
On 07.08.26 17:30, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 07.08.26 16:50, Andy Burns wrote:
>> s|b wrote:
>>
>>> micky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google
>>>> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really?
>>>
>>> I've had a Nexus 5X, Pixel 3, Pixel 6 and now a Pixel 10. None of them
>>> have microSD cards. Data is stored, encrypted, on my Pixel.
>>
>> I had (still have actually) a Nexus 1, it has a microSD card, but was
>> the only phone from Google to do so ...
>
> Even my Nexus 5X did not have a SD slot back in 2026 and Pixels never
2016> had one. The
biggest player in the smartphone arena never offered SD
> slots. They are out of time for more than 10 years.
>
>
--
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <1154tgq$2gn6$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #154747 |
On 07.08.26 15:15, micky wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:29:34 -0400, micky > <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: > >> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model >> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or >> B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim. >> >> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim >> slot? >> >> Are there those that have all 3? > > Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google > Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? Yes. SD cards are technically obsolete. Albeit there millions of users that do not know this fact and are even less prepared to accept it. E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete as a SD-card-slot. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ndmsbeFt1agU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154758 |
On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:27:22 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete > as a SD-card-slot. I have one in my (dual SIM) Pixel 10. It allows me to have 2 numbers active at the same time. A physical SIM and an eSIM. As I understood, I can add other eSIMs, but only 1 eSIM can be active. -- s|b
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115b5vf$2o9np$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #154775 |
s|b, 2026-08-07 22:09: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:27:22 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > >> E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete >> as a SD-card-slot. > > I have one in my (dual SIM) Pixel 10. It allows me to have 2 numbers > active at the same time. A physical SIM and an eSIM. As I understood, I > can add other eSIMs, but only 1 eSIM can be active. Correct - you can have one SIM and one eSIM active at the same time but you can switch between multiple eSIMs in the device. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <h6sj7l5ft2gktoq8mvrm1i3oudteu8abup@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #154758 |
On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:27:22 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote: >On 07.08.26 15:15, micky wrote: >> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:29:34 -0400, micky >> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: >> >>> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model >>> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or >>> B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim. >>> >>> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim >>> slot? >>> >>> Are there those that have all 3? >> >> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google >> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? > >Yes. SD cards are technically obsolete. Albeit there millions of users >that do not know this fact and are even less prepared to accept it. > >E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete >as a SD-card-slot. Why are they "obsolete"? Is there a good reason that benefits users, or is it just that the manufacurers can sell you less functionality for more money? -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115d1gh$2kk0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154878 |
Steve Hayes wrote: >>> Google ASI says that "flagship phones (like Samsung Galaxy S or Google >>> Pixel series) have largely dropped microSD card slots...." Really? >> >>Yes. SD cards are technically obsolete. Albeit there millions of users >>that do not know this fact and are even less prepared to accept it. >> >>E-SIMs are standard for years. A second physical SIM slot is as obsolete >>as a SD-card-slot. > > Why are they "obsolete"? > > Is there a good reason that benefits users, or is it just that the > manufacurers can sell you less functionality for more money? I agree with Steve that saying sd cards are obsolete is patently absurd. The *only* reason sd slots aren't put in 40% of Androids is to make money. They make money because the consumer must desperately replace the lost functionality, usually hugely larger initial storage costs overall. But also by incessant subscriptions to replace the lost functionality. Yet, even if we pay through the nose to replace the lost functionality of the sd card slot, we'll still never be able to replace the lost functionality. In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, knows nothing about them.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ne05chFceniU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154888 |
On 2026-08-10 19:24, Maria Sophia wrote:
> In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, knows nothing about them.
As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?
When I go to Canada from Spain, I can buy an eSIM for Bell Canada easily
while at home, while getting a SIM has become difficult, means another
company which was not reliable the last time I used it.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115eru4$34a$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154913 |
Carlos E. R. wrote: >> In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, knows nothing about them. > > As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage? Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ne0fflFebrbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154915 |
Maria Sophia wrote: > Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage. Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM). I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115fi1k$2258$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #154918 |
Andy Burns wrote: >> Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage. > > Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to > their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the > special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM). > > I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones. Thanks. That's why I didn't understand Carlos' response of... "As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?" When I had said... "In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, knows nothing about them." Maybe he meant that if there is a dual-purpose slot, that he'd rather use the physical slot for an SIM (but not an E-SIM) instead of an sd card.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <ne912eFp2hrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154926 |
On 2026-08-11 18:19, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage.
>>
>> Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to
>> their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the
>> special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM).
>>
>> I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones.
>
> Thanks.
>
> That's why I didn't understand Carlos' response of...
> "As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?"
>
> When I had said...
> "In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete,
> knows nothing about them."
>
> Maybe he meant that if there is a dual-purpose slot, that he'd rather use
> the physical slot for an SIM (but not an E-SIM) instead of an sd card.
An eSIM must be some kind of electronic certificate, in a file.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM
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An eSIM (embedded subscriber identity module) is a form of SIM card that is embedded directly into a device as software installed onto an eUICC chip. In contrast to physical SIM cards, users can connect to and change mobile network operators via the device settings and without the need to physically add or swap a SIM card from the device. A single eSIM plan can connect to several mobile network operators. Devices can hold upwards of 20 eSIM plans simultaneously, with 1 or 2 active.[1][2][3][4][5]
To reduce costs, many eSIM plans only provide data and do not include a phone number.[6] Most phones and tablets released in 2018 or later support eSIM technology.[7] If a phone is bought directly from a carrier with a SIM lock, the phone can only add eSIMs from the carrier that locked the phone, even after a carrier unlock.[8]
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I don't know if an eSIM can be moved between phones. I'll ask chatgpt.
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Q: Can an eSIM installed in a phone be moved to another phone?
Yes—but **it depends on the carrier and phone**.
An eSIM generally isn’t like a physical SIM that you simply remove and insert elsewhere. To move it, you typically need to **transfer the eSIM profile** or **activate a new eSIM** on the new phone.
Common cases:
* **iPhone → iPhone:** Many carriers support Apple’s eSIM Quick Transfer.
* **Android → Android:** Some carriers/phone models support direct transfer; otherwise you’ll need a new activation.
* **iPhone ↔ Android:** Usually requires the carrier to issue/reissue the eSIM.
* **Travel eSIMs:** Often **cannot be transferred** once installed. You may need to purchase a new eSIM, depending on the provider.
If you tell me **your current phone, the new phone, and your mobile carrier/eSIM provider**, I can tell you exactly whether it can be moved and how.
Q: No, it is just a theoretical question. Also, I wondered what happens if the phone breaks: a phisical SIM can be just moved across, but what about an eSIM?
Oops, mishandled and deleted the answer (clicked the voice button)
Q: What happens if a phone breaks: a physical SIM can be just moved across, but what about an eSIM?
With an **eSIM, you generally can’t just move it** to a replacement phone the way you move a physical SIM. But your mobile number/plan can usually be transferred to the new phone.
What happens depends on your carrier:
* **If the old phone still works:** you can often use the carrier’s eSIM transfer process. On iPhone, for example, some carriers support direct eSIM transfer during setup.
* **If the old phone is completely dead:** you’ll usually need to activate a new eSIM on the replacement phone through your carrier—often via their app, website, QR code, or customer support.
* **If you lose the phone:** the carrier can normally deactivate the old eSIM and issue a replacement eSIM. This is actually useful for security, because someone who finds the phone can't simply remove your SIM and put it elsewhere.
* **Your number isn't tied permanently to the physical device.** The carrier controls the subscription; the eSIM is essentially the digital credential that lets the phone access it.
So, practically:
**Physical SIM:** break phone → remove SIM → put in new phone → usually works immediately.
**eSIM:** break phone → get replacement phone → transfer/reissue eSIM through carrier → works once activated.
One important consideration if you're choosing between the two: **a physical SIM is more convenient in an emergency**, especially if you travel and might need to borrow/buy an unlocked phone quickly. An eSIM is more convenient day-to-day and can be more secure, but the recovery process depends more on your carrier.
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In practical terms, my situation is the following: When I travel to Canada, I buy from Amazon a secondary SIM, but I'm limited to vendors that do this. The last time I travelled, the service was bad. I had to buy another SIM card locally from Bell-Canada.
The Amazon vendors cater mostly to visitors to the USA. The SIM is also valid for Mexico and Canada, and in the later case at least has restrictions.
Instead, with an eSIM, I can buy it directly from Bell-Canada while still at Spain and install it before departure. I don't know if it is only data or voice+data, but I prefer the later (so that, for instance, I can phone relatives or a taxi).
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Q: In my case, I can keep the SIM from my main carrier, and buy an eSIM of another country I intend to travel to, before departure.
Yes — that’s actually one of the **best use cases for an eSIM**.
You can have:
* **Physical SIM:** your normal/main carrier, keeping your usual phone number, calls and SMS.
* **eSIM:** a travel plan for the country you're visiting, typically used for mobile data.
Before departure, you can **buy and install the travel eSIM while you're still at home**, then activate/use it when you arrive. Your main SIM can remain physically in the phone.
On a dual-SIM phone, you typically configure:
* **Mobile data:** travel eSIM
* **Calls/SMS:** main SIM
* **Data roaming:** off on the main SIM, to avoid accidental roaming charges
### And if your phone breaks while travelling?
This is where the distinction becomes important.
Your **main physical SIM** is easy: take it out and put it in another compatible phone.
Your **travel eSIM**, however, generally can't simply be transferred by moving something. You'd need to **reinstall/reissue it on the replacement phone**, and whether that's easy depends on the travel-eSIM provider. Some let you reinstall using the original QR code or their app; others treat the eSIM as single-use and require a new one.
So if you're travelling, I'd recommend **keeping the eSIM QR code/activation details and the provider's app/login information somewhere accessible outside the phone** (e.g. your email or password manager). That can make a replacement much easier.
Also, there's an interesting advantage to your setup: **if the travel eSIM stops working or the phone dies, your main number remains on a removable physical SIM**, so you have a relatively straightforward fallback.
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--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115pb8n$37eta$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #154967 |
On 2026-08-14, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-11 18:19, Maria Sophia wrote: >> Andy Burns wrote: >>>> Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage. >>> >>> Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to >>> their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the >>> special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM). >>> >>> I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones. >> >> Thanks. >> >> That's why I didn't understand Carlos' response of... >> "As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?" >> >> When I had said... >> "In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, >> knows nothing about them." >> >> Maybe he meant that if there is a dual-purpose slot, that he'd rather use >> the physical slot for an SIM (but not an E-SIM) instead of an sd card. > > An eSIM must be some kind of electronic certificate, in a file. But a µSD card is used for general storage, it's not just a device that could store such certificate files. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <neas5jF35q2U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #154997 |
On 2026-08-15 11:24, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-08-14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-11 18:19, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>> Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage.
>>>>
>>>> Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to
>>>> their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the
>>>> special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM).
>>>>
>>>> I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> That's why I didn't understand Carlos' response of...
>>> "As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?"
>>>
>>> When I had said...
>>> "In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete,
>>> knows nothing about them."
>>>
>>> Maybe he meant that if there is a dual-purpose slot, that he'd rather use
>>> the physical slot for an SIM (but not an E-SIM) instead of an sd card.
>>
>> An eSIM must be some kind of electronic certificate, in a file.
>
> But a µSD card is used for general storage, it's not just a device that
> could store such certificate files.
>
True. A SIM card adds menu entries pertaining to the ISP. It is more
complicated. But you are talking of the physical device (card) that adds
eSIM functionality to a phone that doesn't have it. I am talking of the
eSIM, which is some type of file with a certificate and maybe software.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115pgc6$37eta$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155001 |
On 2026-08-15, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-15 11:24, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2026-08-14, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-08-11 18:19, Maria Sophia wrote: >>>> Andy Burns wrote: >>>>>> Maybe I don't understand the purpose of an esim, as it's not storage. >>>>> >>>>> Same as a SIM, it identifies you to a mobile provider for access to >>>>> their network, but without needing a physical SIM swap (except in the >>>>> special cases as discussed of a physical eSIM). >>>>> >>>>> I've tended to stick with physical SIMs as they can be moved between phones. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> That's why I didn't understand Carlos' response of... >>>> "As we can use eSIMs instead, which is the advantage?" >>>> >>>> When I had said... >>>> "In summary, anyone saying sd cards are obsolete, >>>> knows nothing about them." >>>> >>>> Maybe he meant that if there is a dual-purpose slot, that he'd rather use >>>> the physical slot for an SIM (but not an E-SIM) instead of an sd card. >>> >>> An eSIM must be some kind of electronic certificate, in a file. >> >> But a µSD card is used for general storage, it's not just a device that >> could store such certificate files. >> > > True. A SIM card adds menu entries pertaining to the ISP. It is more > complicated. It's a Smartcard, even though for decades it hasn't been using full size cards. It should be a computer in itself. > But you are talking of the physical device (card) that > adds eSIM functionality to a phone that doesn't have it. No. That device is effectively a smartcard too or at least exposes a smartcard interface. I'm talking of a Secure Digital card, in this case on the "micro" form factor and interface. These are storage devices with a different interface. Although I guess it should be technically possible for something entirely different to be there other than a storage device. > I am talking > of the eSIM, which is some type of file with a certificate and maybe > software. That's a separate concept to replace a physical Subscriber Identity Module. In turn, the device that offers a "physical eSIM", to be of any use, has to be compatible with the smartcard interface and the form factors used for SIMs. Secure Digital: <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/SD_Cards.svg> Subscriber Identity Module: <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/GSM_Micro_SIM_Card_vs._GSM_Mini_Sim_Card_-_Break_Apart.svg> -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? |
| Message-ID | <115pmn4$3clcc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155003 |
On 2026-08-15, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-08-15, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> But you are talking of the physical device (card) that >> adds eSIM functionality to a phone that doesn't have it. > > No. That device is effectively a smartcard too or at least exposes a > smartcard interface. > > I'm talking of a Secure Digital card, in this case on the "micro" form > factor and interface. These are storage devices with a different > interface. Although I guess it should be technically possible for > something entirely different to be there other than a storage device. > >> I am talking >> of the eSIM, which is some type of file with a certificate and maybe >> software. > > That's a separate concept to replace a physical Subscriber Identity > Module. In turn, the device that offers a "physical eSIM", to be of any > use, has to be compatible with the smartcard interface and the form > factors used for SIMs. Oh, and to add, as it occurred to me this may be the root of the confusion: when one phone indicates it's Dual SIM with one slot alternatively accepting a µSD card, it merely means the same slot/bay can carry either a nano-SIM *or* (xor) a µSD card, not that the SIM uses the µSD interface. The slot/space has both interfaces, but only one of the two can be used at a given time. > Secure Digital: > <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/SD_Cards.svg> > > Subscriber Identity Module: > <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/GSM_Micro_SIM_Card_vs._GSM_Mini_Sim_Card_-_Break_Apart.svg> -- Nuno Silva
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