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SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Started bymicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
First post2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
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  SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:28 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:27 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:39 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:38 -0700
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:58 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:12 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:36 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-12 20:40 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:52 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:44 +0200
                  Storage media availability over time (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:20 +0100
                    Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-16 10:01 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-12 17:03 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:41 +0200
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-13 18:59 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:56 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:00 +0100
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:34 -0800
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:10 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:33 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:23 +0200
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:21 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-14 20:23 -0800
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:20 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:37 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:34 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:38 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 11:49 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-10 18:04 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:33 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-11 05:54 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:18 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0000
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:01 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:11 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:34 +0200
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-07 16:57 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:32 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-10 09:25 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 08:47 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:40 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:15 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 22:34 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:28 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:42 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 17:40 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:28 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 11:43 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 20:57 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:33 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:28 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:32 -0800
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 18:34 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:20 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 07:31 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 08:59 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-08-10 11:06 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 10:33 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 10:51 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 10:25 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 09:43 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 10:34 -0400
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:24 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 09:42 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
              [OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100

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#154833 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<ndqt6pFhq8uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154795
Nuno Silva wrote:

> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?

There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
require, e.g.

<https://9esim.com>

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#154837 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<9gbmkmxp4g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154833
On 2026-08-09 10:49, Andy Burns wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?
> 
> There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
> natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
> require, e.g.
> 
> <https://9esim.com>

Interesting.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154849 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<ftgh7l1rnl7rb9upk51ucd55to0poddkhu@4ax.com>
In reply to#154833
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?
>
>There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
>natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
>require, e.g.
>
><https://9esim.com>

Wow,  Thanks.  This may get me all that I wanted.  

For the new phone and even for the old phone.  I could have gotten an
esim for Peru.  Of course I had no idea I needed one until I got there. 

IIUC I could remove my USA sim and put this in and still have room for
the SD card.  At least I think so.  Right?       (Yes I've heard about
the cloud, but my attitude towards it is old-fashioned and cloudy.)

What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
something. 

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#154853 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<im4nkmxlut.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154849
On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

...

> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
> something.

The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said 
not to insert the card while in Spain, but do it while at the plane over 
the ocean, or after landing.

Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe 
doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154855 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<f63i7ld6fnp1gha09pn92naoc0j0eiu74a@4ax.com>
In reply to#154853
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 22:31:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>
>...
>
>> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
>> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
>> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
>> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
>> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
>> something.
>
>The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said 
>not to insert the card while in Spain,

What happens if you do it in Spain? It explodes?   On your next trip, do
it while you're in Spain and report here, if you're physically able. 

> but do it while at the plane over 
>the ocean, 

ROTFL

>or after landing.

Okay. 

>Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe 
>doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.

That might work, although methods like that work for the middle part, in
this case, changing the sim, but getting the sim into the bag at the
start and the removed one out of the bag is the kind of part where
people, namely me, would mess up. 

Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing. 

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#154859 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<hojnkmx8rh.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154855
On 2026-08-10 01:33, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 22:31:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
>>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
>>> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
>>> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
>>> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
>>> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
>>> something.
>>
>> The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said
>> not to insert the card while in Spain,
> 
> What happens if you do it in Spain? It explodes?   On your next trip, do
> it while you're in Spain and report here, if you're physically able.

Things break. Maybe I read a description of how, but I do not remember.

Next time it will be an eSIM :-)


I guess it tries to connect to the local companies, can't, gets mad, and 
bricks.

The description of the eSIM from Bell Canada says to enable before 
departure, it will connect at arrival. If you trust my memory.

Maybe the eSIM needs internet before departure to enable.

> 
>> but do it while at the plane over
>> the ocean,
> 
> ROTFL
> 
>> or after landing.
> 
> Okay.
> 
>> Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe
>> doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.
> 
> That might work, although methods like that work for the middle part, in
> this case, changing the sim, but getting the sim into the bag at the
> start and the removed one out of the bag is the kind of part where
> people, namely me, would mess up.
> 
> Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
> far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing.

It is.

Once, when I was young, I dropped the "needle" (diamond point) of a 
record player, which I needed in order to buy a new one. I had to find 
it, or else. I did find it, inside the joint between two tiles in the 
terrazzo floor. I had to be very methodical, tile by tile, inch by inch.

My father had a trick: sweep the floor. Can't do that in a plane, though.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154862 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<2hri7lt4h03smg3ug7ua1ulatqtjel7dp2@4ax.com>
In reply to#154859
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 02:48:49 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>
>> Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
>> far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing.
>
>It is.
>
>Once, when I was young, I dropped the "needle" (diamond point) of a 
>record player, which I needed in order to buy a new one. I had to find 
>it, or else. I did find it, inside the joint between two tiles in the 
>terrazzo floor. I had to be very methodical, tile by tile, inch by inch.
>
>My father had a trick: sweep the floor. Can't do that in a plane, though.
>
>-- 
>Cheers, Carlos.
>ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

I took apart a pocket watch when I was about 13.  Worked at a desk with
a glass cover meant to protect the wood. Little screws really bounce on
glass.  I'm sure it's in a crack between two boards of the hardwood
floor.  Cheap watch, already broken, and no way I was going to be able
to fix it even with all the screws, so I didn't look much.  It's
probably still there 66 years later. 

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#154839

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
Message-ID<115aanj.1fjs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#154741
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model
> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or 

  The simplest Samsung Galaxy - A17 - can do this.

>           B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim.   

  You might have to look up Samsung's site if the A17 has eSIM
functionality. If not, see my post about Andy's post on how to buy a
*physical* eSIM card.

> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim
> slot? 
> 
> Are there those that have all 3? 

  Yes, Motorola by buying an eSIM card, see my other post.

> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my
> late lamented Xiaomi phone.  The standard seems to be Samsung, is that
> right?   Are there other less expensive brands that are more like
> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?   

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#154887

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
Message-ID<f41k7l9b9qlbvr5s3eekc0n3j3sskstrkl@4ax.com>
In reply to#154839
In comp.mobile.android, on 9 Aug 2026 14:43:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model
>> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or 
>
>  The simplest Samsung Galaxy - A17 - can do this.
>
>>           B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim.   
>
>  You might have to look up Samsung's site if the A17 has eSIM
>functionality. If not, see my post about Andy's post on how to buy a
>*physical* eSIM card.
>
>> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim
>> slot? 
>> 
>> Are there those that have all 3? 
>
>  Yes, Motorola by buying an eSIM card, see my other post.

Thanks for suggesing Motorola. In a previous answer or two, I couldnt'
remember who it was who suggested it but I am reminded. 

Do you know why it's called Motorola?  It was originally a brand name
for the radios the company made in 1930 for motor cars. The -ola on the
end comes from Victrola. 

The Galvin Manufacturing Company was renamed Motorola in 1947. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History

Post World War II includes 
In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words from the Moon on a
Motorola transceiver: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap
for mankind".[22]

In 1973, Motorola demonstrated the first hand-held portable
telephone.[23]

>
>> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my
>> late lamented Xiaomi phone.  The standard seems to be Samsung, is that
>> right?   Are there other less expensive brands that are more like
>> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?   

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#154892

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<115d3lo$3bn0b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154887
On 8/10/26 10:21 AM, micky wrote:

>Do you know why it's called Motorola?  It was originally a brand name
>for the radios the company made in 1930 for motor cars. The -ola on the
>end comes from Victrola. 
>
>The Galvin Manufacturing Company was renamed Motorola in 1947. 
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History
>
>Post World War II includes 
>In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words from the Moon on a
>Motorola transceiver: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap
>for mankind".[22]
>
>In 1973, Motorola demonstrated the first hand-held portable
>telephone.[23]

I don't see it in the article but Motorola had 3 plants in the Phoenix AZ
 area in the 1960s. I worked for the one in Scottsdale AZ as a test
 technician for 6 years. It was called the Military Electronics Division. We
 built military and space stuff. Some of it is still on the moon... 

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#154895

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
Message-ID<e77k7ldvuji6c4e2qo32d3aqou2em6gs9o@4ax.com>
In reply to#154892
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 18:01:29 -0000 (UTC), AJL
<noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 8/10/26 10:21 AM, micky wrote:
>
>>Do you know why it's called Motorola?  It was originally a brand name
>>for the radios the company made in 1930 for motor cars. The -ola on the
>>end comes from Victrola. 
>>
>>The Galvin Manufacturing Company was renamed Motorola in 1947. 
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History
>>
>>Post World War II includes 
>>In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words from the Moon on a
>>Motorola transceiver: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap
>>for mankind".[22]
>>
>>In 1973, Motorola demonstrated the first hand-held portable
>>telephone.[23]
>
>I don't see it in the article but Motorola had 3 plants in the Phoenix AZ
> area in the 1960s. I worked for the one in Scottsdale AZ as a test
> technician for 6 years. It was called the Military Electronics Division. We
> built military and space stuff. Some of it is still on the moon... 

Cool.   Very cool. 

Did you know that Neil Armstrong went to the moon and back without
getting hurt, and then ripped the tip of his finger off when his wedding
ring caught on a wheel of his farm truck?

He found the missing finger part, packed it in ice, and microsurgeons
sewed it back on, I read. 

Microsurgeons are very, very small surgeons. 

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#154896

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
Message-ID<115d87v$3dc69$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154895
On 8/10/26 11:55 AM, micky wrote:

>Did you know that Neil Armstrong went to the moon and back without
>getting hurt, and then ripped the tip of his finger off when his wedding
>ring caught on a wheel of his farm truck?

>He found the missing finger part, packed it in ice, and microsurgeons
>sewed it back on, I read. 

>Microsurgeons are very, very small surgeons. 

I suspect they felt small because Neil gave them the finger...

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#154899 — [OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
Subject[OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?)
Message-ID<115don5$3i90g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154896
On 2026-08-10, AJL wrote:

> On 8/10/26 11:55 AM, micky wrote:
>
>>Did you know that Neil Armstrong went to the moon and back without
>>getting hurt, and then ripped the tip of his finger off when his wedding
>>ring caught on a wheel of his farm truck?
>
>>He found the missing finger part, packed it in ice, and microsurgeons
>> sewed it back on, I read. 
>
>> Microsurgeons are very, very small surgeons. 
>
> I suspect they felt small because Neil gave them the finger...

Now that reminds me of "Sloane gave me the finger", said by Marshall
Flinkman in Alias S01E13. (Sloane had literally given him his finger in
order to disarm a self-destruct device, IIRC.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#154929 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

FromJava Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Date2026-08-11 21:02 +0100
SubjectRe: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?
Message-ID<115fv49$9j5d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154895
On 2026-08-10 19:55, micky wrote:
> 
> Did you know that Neil Armstrong went to the moon and back without
> getting hurt, and then ripped the tip of his finger off when his wedding
> ring caught on a wheel of his farm truck?
> 
> He found the missing finger part, packed it in ice, and microsurgeons
> sewed it back on, I read.
> 
> Microsurgeons are very, very small surgeons.

I've always been disappointed that the story about Neil Armstrong saying 
on the moon: "Good luck, Mr Gorsky" turned out to be an urban myth 
invented by a comedian ... still good for a laugh, though ...

<https://www.crookedtreehouse.com/tips-from-the-bar/good-luck-mr-gorsky>

<https://www.google.com/search?q=story+about+Neil+Armstrong+and+oral+sex>

-- 

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: 
www.macfh.co.uk

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