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  SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 21:29 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 09:15 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:42 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-07 15:50 +0100
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:30 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 22:09 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:28 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:41 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:24 -0800
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:38 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 02:01 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:32 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:20 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:24 +0100
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:08 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:51 +0100
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:40 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:28 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 13:27 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-11 12:39 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:38 -0700
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 13:58 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:12 +0000
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:36 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-12 20:40 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:19 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:52 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-12 20:44 +0200
                  Storage media availability over time (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:20 +0100
                    Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-16 10:01 -0800
                      Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 14:00 +0200
                        Re: Storage media availability over time "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:22 +0200
                          Re: Storage media availability over time Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 15:44 +0000
                            Re: Storage media availability over time Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 19:22 +0100
                    Re: Storage media availability over time Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-18 13:29 +0200
                      Re: Storage media availability over time Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-18 08:47 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:28 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:22 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:50 -0800
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:27 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:34 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:02 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:20 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-11 14:37 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 08:18 -0800
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 06:00 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-11 20:47 -0800
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-12 17:03 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:41 +0200
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-13 18:59 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:56 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:00 +0100
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-15 08:34 -0800
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:10 +0200
                        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:33 +0200
                          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:23 +0200
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:18 +0200
                            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-17 17:41 +0000
                              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 05:24 +0200
                                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:19 +0000
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:21 +0200
                      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-14 20:23 -0800
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-14 00:20 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:37 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-15 19:34 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:38 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 11:49 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-10 18:04 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:33 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-11 05:54 +0000
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:18 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-15 15:19 +0000
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-11 10:01 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-11 10:11 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:34 +0200
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-07 16:57 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 02:32 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-08-10 09:25 +0200
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 08:47 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:40 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 19:15 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 22:34 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:28 -0800
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:42 +0200
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 17:40 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 09:28 -0800
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-08 11:43 +0100
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 20:57 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:33 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:28 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-10 08:32 -0800
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 18:34 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:20 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 07:31 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 08:59 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-08-10 11:06 +0200
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 10:33 +0100
                Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-08-10 10:51 +0100
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-08-10 10:25 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-10 09:43 +0100
                  Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 10:34 -0400
                    Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-11 10:24 +0200
              Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 09:42 -0400
      Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-09 09:49 +0100
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 15:21 +0200
        Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 14:21 -0400
          Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-09 22:31 +0200
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-09 19:33 -0400
              Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-10 02:48 +0200
                Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 02:25 -0400
    Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-09 14:43 +0000
      Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 13:21 -0400
        Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 18:01 +0000
          Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-10 14:55 -0400
            Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others? AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-08-10 19:19 +0000
              [OT] non-Unix fingers (was: Re: SD card vs. Esim?   Samsung vs. others?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-11 01:00 +0100
            Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100

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#154863 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

micky wrote:

> I searched for 9esim on Amazon, and I iddn't find them yet

<https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FFMJPQB6>

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#154867

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> Wrote in message:
> ...
> It's 12 hours later in Peking, and they answered me at 9:45 tomorrow
> morning.  They said: 
> 
> Hi
>    You can buy it on Amazon, and it will be shipped from Amazon UK
> warehouse.

According to their website there are 2 versions of this thing - V0
 and V3, with different internal OSes, one made in CN and one in
 UK. They might have different compatibility.

If it were me I'd buy the later one.
-- 
Remove numerics from my email address.

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#154871

Le lun. 10 août 2026 08:59:04, Dave Royal a écrit:

> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> Wrote in message:
> > ...
> > It's 12 hours later in Peking, and they answered me at 9:45 tomorrow
> > morning.  They said: 
> > 
> > Hi
> >    You can buy it on Amazon, and it will be shipped from Amazon UK
> > warehouse.  
> 
> According to their website there are 2 versions of this thing - V0
>  and V3, with different internal OSes, one made in CN and one in
>  UK. They might have different compatibility.
> 
> If it were me I'd buy the later one.

On amazon.fr, there are 3 versions :
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0DWSMSCT1
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0FFMJPQB6
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0GT8S5WMG

Looking at the comments, 9esim V3 seems the best of them.

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#154873 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Philippe wrote:

> Dave Royal a écrit:
> 
>> According to their website there are 2 versions of this thing - V0
>>   and V3, with different internal OSes, one made in CN and one in
>>   UK. They might have different compatibility.
>>
>> If it were me I'd buy the later one.
> 
> On amazon.fr, there are 3 versions :
> https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0DWSMSCT1
> https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0FFMJPQB6
> https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0GT8S5WMG
> 
> Looking at the comments, 9esim V3 seems the best of them.

I think there are three versions everywhere (v0, v0max and v3).

But which is "best" depends on whether 15, 30 or 50 stored SIM profiles 
is enough, the price difference isn't huge though ...

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#154874

Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:

> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> Wrote in message:
>> ...
>> It's 12 hours later in Peking, and they answered me at 9:45 tomorrow
>> morning.  They said: 
>> 
>> Hi
>>    You can buy it on Amazon, and it will be shipped from Amazon UK
>> warehouse.
> 
> According to their website there are 2 versions of this thing - V0
>  and V3, with different internal OSes, one made in CN and one in
>  UK. They might have different compatibility.
> 
> If it were me I'd buy the later one.

Investigating further, both V0 and V3 support SGP.22 and while V3
 supports the later SGP.32 that doesn't seem relevant to this use.
 So compatibility ought to be the same.
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#154868 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

micky, 2026-08-10 08:20:

[...]> So I searched for 9esim on Amazon, and I iddn't find them yet but I
> found 
> https://www.amazon.com/EIOTCLUB-eSIM-Card-Reader-Bundle/dp/B0DLNBXCCW

They have their own shop, no need to use Amazon:

<https://www.9esim.com/en/shop>


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Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#154870 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Arno Welzel wrote:

> micky, 2026-08-10 08:20:
> 
> [...]> So I searched for 9esim on Amazon, and I iddn't find them yet but I
>> found
>> https://www.amazon.com/EIOTCLUB-eSIM-Card-Reader-Bundle/dp/B0DLNBXCCW
> 
> They have their own shop, no need to use Amazon:
> 
> <https://www.9esim.com/en/shop>
But micky said 2 week delivery from china if using their own shop, next 
day dispatch from uk if using amazon ...

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#154876 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 09:43:32 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>Arno Welzel wrote:
>
>> micky, 2026-08-10 08:20:
>> 
>> [...]> So I searched for 9esim on Amazon, and I iddn't find them yet but I
>>> found
>>> https://www.amazon.com/EIOTCLUB-eSIM-Card-Reader-Bundle/dp/B0DLNBXCCW
>> 
>> They have their own shop, no need to use Amazon:
>> 
>> <https://www.9esim.com/en/shop>
>But micky said 2 week delivery from china if using their own shop, next 
>day dispatch from uk if using amazon ...

Exactly, but it turns out they don't ship either model, inluding the one
made in the UK, from the UK to the US.   I wonder why not. 

they will ship to Spain, 7.5 euros arriving in 7 days
  Italy    11 euros arriving in 7 days
  Quatar , 22 euros arriving in 5 days
  Isle of Man, Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item
will be back in stock.  Huh? Of course it's in stock. I only changed
destination. 

But this info is now mostly for other readers.  Since this all started
I've bought a phone, Motorola as suggested, that has sim, esim, and SD
slot.  I'm half-convinced I don't need the SD, but I hate this part,
where there are hundreds of models and I have to pick one. 

It also has wirelss charging, but at 30% the rate of wired charging.
OTOH, what's the rush?  Now I have to get a wireless charger, which will
use somem current ALL the time the laptop is on or sleeping, or off if
you use the right jack, unlike a USB cable which uses nothing when
nothing is plugged into it. 

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#154911 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

On 2026-08-10 16:34, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 09:43:32 +0100, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:


> 
> But this info is now mostly for other readers.  Since this all started
> I've bought a phone, Motorola as suggested, that has sim, esim, and SD
> slot.  I'm half-convinced I don't need the SD, but I hate this part,
> where there are hundreds of models and I have to pick one.
> 
> It also has wirelss charging, but at 30% the rate of wired charging.
> OTOH, what's the rush?  Now I have to get a wireless charger, which will
> use somem current ALL the time the laptop is on or sleeping, or off if
> you use the right jack, unlike a USB cable which uses nothing when
> nothing is plugged into it.

Which one did you select?

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154875

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 02:20:29 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>
>So I searched for 9esim on Amazon, and I iddn't find them yet but I
>found 
>https://www.amazon.com/EIOTCLUB-eSIM-Card-Reader-Bundle/dp/B0DLNBXCCW
>
>which seems to be the same thing and they are offering to deliver it
>TODAY between 5 and 10, on orders over $25.   This bundle sells for
>$24.90.   I wonder if I can overpay by 20 cents and get it today, becuse
>what else do they have to put it over 25. Their store only has 4 things
>and they are all sim cards. 
>
>4 stars on 59 votes.  Some of the complaints are. 
>
>3-star  It does work on my Samsung S10e. However, it does NOT work with
>eSIM from vendor other than EIOTCLUB, like bcengi for example. I have
>not tried other eSIM brands, so not sure that is the limitation or not.
>  9esim sounded like it worked with everyone that met some standard 
>
>Another 3-star review is complicated and says it's very finicky and you
>have to read the whole thing to see how complicated it is. 
>
>We're showing limited number of reviews.  If you want to see more
>reviews, send a request. 
>Your request to see more reviews has been sent. You'll receive an email
>within 5 business days.
>
>   Huh!
>
>It had 10% 1-star and 3% 2-star but only showed 8 reviews out of 59
>global ratings (many of which might have had no text.) 

Forgot to say that of t he 8 reviews, 2 were 3-star, but none of the 1-
or 2-star showed and those are the ones that would really concern me.
Only 4 more days to wait to see if my request to see more has been
granted< LOL. 
>
>
>I still haven't found the product we're looking for. They could have

Because I should have looked in UK Amazon

>included the link and I wouldn't have known about the competition. 
>
>Searching Amazon on physical esim found more competition, but not 9esim.

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#154833 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

Nuno Silva wrote:

> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?

There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
require, e.g.

<https://9esim.com>

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#154837 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

On 2026-08-09 10:49, Andy Burns wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?
> 
> There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
> natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
> require, e.g.
> 
> <https://9esim.com>

Interesting.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154849 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> What is an eSIM slot? Isn't the purpose of it that it's not physical?
>
>There *are* physical eSIMs, which can be used if your phone doesn't 
>natively support eSIMs, or doesn't support loading as many eSIMs as you 
>require, e.g.
>
><https://9esim.com>

Wow,  Thanks.  This may get me all that I wanted.  

For the new phone and even for the old phone.  I could have gotten an
esim for Peru.  Of course I had no idea I needed one until I got there. 

IIUC I could remove my USA sim and put this in and still have room for
the SD card.  At least I think so.  Right?       (Yes I've heard about
the cloud, but my attitude towards it is old-fashioned and cloudy.)

What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
something. 

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#154853 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

...

> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
> something.

The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said 
not to insert the card while in Spain, but do it while at the plane over 
the ocean, or after landing.

Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe 
doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154855 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 22:31:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>
>...
>
>> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
>> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
>> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
>> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
>> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
>> something.
>
>The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said 
>not to insert the card while in Spain,

What happens if you do it in Spain? It explodes?   On your next trip, do
it while you're in Spain and report here, if you're physically able. 

> but do it while at the plane over 
>the ocean, 

ROTFL

>or after landing.

Okay. 

>Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe 
>doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.

That might work, although methods like that work for the middle part, in
this case, changing the sim, but getting the sim into the bag at the
start and the removed one out of the bag is the kind of part where
people, namely me, would mess up. 

Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing. 

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#154859 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

On 2026-08-10 01:33, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 22:31:46 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-09 20:21, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:49:38 +0100, Andy Burns
>>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> What gets me is seeing people changing their sim on the airplane.  It's
>>> hard enough to find one if you drop it in your kitchen, but I can't even
>>> find my shoes on the plane.  I'd sooner be 10 minutes without a phone
>>> after I get off the plane.  Or change before getting on the plane. Those
>>> waiting areas are usually pretty simple and clean.  Hard to lose
>>> something.
>>
>> The instructions of the SIMs I got in Spain for USA-Canada-Mexico said
>> not to insert the card while in Spain,
> 
> What happens if you do it in Spain? It explodes?   On your next trip, do
> it while you're in Spain and report here, if you're physically able.

Things break. Maybe I read a description of how, but I do not remember.

Next time it will be an eSIM :-)


I guess it tries to connect to the local companies, can't, gets mad, and 
bricks.

The description of the eSIM from Bell Canada says to enable before 
departure, it will connect at arrival. If you trust my memory.

Maybe the eSIM needs internet before departure to enable.

> 
>> but do it while at the plane over
>> the ocean,
> 
> ROTFL
> 
>> or after landing.
> 
> Okay.
> 
>> Yes, losing the card on the plane stopped me doing the job there. Maybe
>> doing it all inside a transparent plastic bag.
> 
> That might work, although methods like that work for the middle part, in
> this case, changing the sim, but getting the sim into the bag at the
> start and the removed one out of the bag is the kind of part where
> people, namely me, would mess up.
> 
> Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
> far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing.

It is.

Once, when I was young, I dropped the "needle" (diamond point) of a 
record player, which I needed in order to buy a new one. I had to find 
it, or else. I did find it, inside the joint between two tiles in the 
terrazzo floor. I had to be very methodical, tile by tile, inch by inch.

My father had a trick: sweep the floor. Can't do that in a plane, though.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154862 — Re: SD card vs. Esim? Samsung vs. others?

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 10 Aug 2026 02:48:49 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>
>> Another law is that when you drop something, it easily goes 5 times as
>> far as you would think it would, maybe 10.   It's amazing.
>
>It is.
>
>Once, when I was young, I dropped the "needle" (diamond point) of a 
>record player, which I needed in order to buy a new one. I had to find 
>it, or else. I did find it, inside the joint between two tiles in the 
>terrazzo floor. I had to be very methodical, tile by tile, inch by inch.
>
>My father had a trick: sweep the floor. Can't do that in a plane, though.
>
>-- 
>Cheers, Carlos.
>ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

I took apart a pocket watch when I was about 13.  Worked at a desk with
a glass cover meant to protect the wood. Little screws really bounce on
glass.  I'm sure it's in a crack between two boards of the hardwood
floor.  Cheap watch, already broken, and no way I was going to be able
to fix it even with all the screws, so I didn't look much.  It's
probably still there 66 years later. 

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#154839

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model
> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or 

  The simplest Samsung Galaxy - A17 - can do this.

>           B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim.   

  You might have to look up Samsung's site if the A17 has eSIM
functionality. If not, see my post about Andy's post on how to buy a
*physical* eSIM card.

> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim
> slot? 
> 
> Are there those that have all 3? 

  Yes, Motorola by buying an eSIM card, see my other post.

> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my
> late lamented Xiaomi phone.  The standard seems to be Samsung, is that
> right?   Are there other less expensive brands that are more like
> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?   

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#154887

In comp.mobile.android, on 9 Aug 2026 14:43:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> So, I need a new phone and 1) some that I'm looking at have some model
>> that take A) a sim and either a second sim or an SD card. or 
>
>  The simplest Samsung Galaxy - A17 - can do this.
>
>>           B) a sim and either a second sim or an Esim.   
>
>  You might have to look up Samsung's site if the A17 has eSIM
>functionality. If not, see my post about Andy's post on how to buy a
>*physical* eSIM card.
>
>> If you had to choose, which is more valuable, an SD slot or an esim
>> slot? 
>> 
>> Are there those that have all 3? 
>
>  Yes, Motorola by buying an eSIM card, see my other post.

Thanks for suggesing Motorola. In a previous answer or two, I couldnt'
remember who it was who suggested it but I am reminded. 

Do you know why it's called Motorola?  It was originally a brand name
for the radios the company made in 1930 for motor cars. The -ola on the
end comes from Victrola. 

The Galvin Manufacturing Company was renamed Motorola in 1947. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History

Post World War II includes 
In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words from the Moon on a
Motorola transceiver: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap
for mankind".[22]

In 1973, Motorola demonstrated the first hand-held portable
telephone.[23]

>
>> 2) Some times when I look for help, webpage instuctions don't match my
>> late lamented Xiaomi phone.  The standard seems to be Samsung, is that
>> right?   Are there other less expensive brands that are more like
>> Samsung than my Xiaomi has been?   

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#154892

On 8/10/26 10:21 AM, micky wrote:

>Do you know why it's called Motorola?  It was originally a brand name
>for the radios the company made in 1930 for motor cars. The -ola on the
>end comes from Victrola. 
>
>The Galvin Manufacturing Company was renamed Motorola in 1947. 
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History
>
>Post World War II includes 
>In 1969, Neil Armstrong spoke the famous words from the Moon on a
>Motorola transceiver: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap
>for mankind".[22]
>
>In 1973, Motorola demonstrated the first hand-held portable
>telephone.[23]

I don't see it in the article but Motorola had 3 plants in the Phoenix AZ
 area in the 1960s. I worked for the one in Scottsdale AZ as a test
 technician for 6 years. It was called the Military Electronics Division. We
 built military and space stuff. Some of it is still on the moon... 

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