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Google calc trouble

Started by"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
First post2026-06-29 11:53 +0200
Last post2026-06-30 19:20 +0200
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  Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-29 11:53 +0200
    Re: Google calc trouble ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:16 +0000
      Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-29 12:37 +0200
        Re: Google calc trouble ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-29 10:53 +0000
          Re: Google calc trouble Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-29 12:06 +0100
            Re: Google calc trouble Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 07:27 +0000
            [OT] LLM-generated content in articles (was: Re: Google calc trouble) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 09:03 +0100
              Re: [OT] LLM-generated content in articles ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-06-30 09:20 +0000
    Re: Google calc trouble Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2026-06-29 12:15 +0100
    Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-06-30 08:51 +0200
      Re: Google calc trouble Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 07:27 +0000
        Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-30 11:24 +0200
          Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-06-30 17:33 +0200
            Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-30 19:19 +0200
              Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-02 12:58 +0200
                Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 13:07 +0200
          Re: Google calc trouble Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 19:56 +0000
            Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:30 +0200
              Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-07-02 12:59 +0200
      Re: Google calc trouble Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-30 08:52 +0100
        Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-06-30 17:34 +0200
      Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-30 11:19 +0200
        Re: Google calc trouble Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-06-30 17:36 +0200
          Re: Google calc trouble "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-30 19:20 +0200

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#154318

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-06-30 17:34 +0200
Message-ID<1120nmg$16b4e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154312
Nuno Silva, 2026-06-30 09:52:

> On 2026-06-30, Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>> Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
>>
>>> I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how 
>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
>>>
>>> Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem, 
>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version. 
>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could 
>>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two 
>>> lines are lost.
>>>
>>> It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
>>
>> That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
>>
>>> The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two 
>>> trivial formulas.
>>>
>>> So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office, 
>>> both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on 
>>> F-droid, so google play it is.
>>
>> There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
>>
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
> 
> "In-app purchases"? Also, seems to be under some individual's name,
> instead of "Apache Software Foundation"?

In-app purchases give you additional fonts. The app itself is useable
for free without purchasing anything.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#154314

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-30 11:19 +0200
Message-ID<nahg1aF8cknU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154309
On 2026-06-30 08:51, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
> 
>> I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
>>
>> Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
>> lines are lost.
>>
>> It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
> 
> That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).

Seriously?

How would I do a backup while driving?

I could tell Google Calc to do a backup copy of the sheet I just used, 
and both would probably be broken, as the software is problematic.

How do you do a backup of a file that has been corrupted the instant you 
use it? The last line will always be lost.

> 
>> The file is simple, some 400 lines and a dozen of columns with two
>> trivial formulas.
>>
>> So I searched for an alternative. ChatGPT told me of Collabora Office,
>> both in F-droid and Google play. Turns out it is not directly on
>> F-droid, so google play it is.
> 
> There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
> 
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>


No, there is not. It is a viewer only.

> 
>> Opened the file just fine in the computer (FFx opening session on
>> Google), click download to ODS format, check the local file in Libre
>> Office Calc, use the USB cable to transfer to the phone, done. Now the
>> spreadsheet is a local file on the phone. Maybe I could use it via
>> Google Drive. We'll see.
>>
>>
>> But the question is, have people been having problems with Google Calc
>> on Android phones?
> 
> I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.

Sigh.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154319

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2026-06-30 17:36 +0200
Message-ID<1120npv$16b4e$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154314
Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:19:

> On 2026-06-30 08:51, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
>>
>>> I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
>>>
>>> Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
>>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
>>> lines are lost.
>>>
>>> It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
>>
>> That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
> 
> Seriously?
> 
> How would I do a backup while driving?

I wouldn't. My files are backed up automatically. See my other post
about that.

[...]>> There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
>>
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
> 
> 
> No, there is not. It is a viewer only.

I use it - not as a viewer only.

>> I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.
> 
> Sigh.

Maybe the right opportunity to think about your choice of using Google
Docs instead of alternatives.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#154321

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-30 19:20 +0200
Message-ID<naic7bFcaskU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154319
On 2026-06-30 17:36, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E. R., 2026-06-30 11:19:
> 
>> On 2026-06-30 08:51, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R., 2026-06-29 11:53:
>>>
>>>> I have been using Google Calc spread sheet for some years, to track how
>>>> much gasoline I buy for the car, and how many kilometres it does.
>>>>
>>>> Well, one day it lost me entries. It said there was some sync problem,
>>>> maybe it had stored a local copy that did not match the cloud version.
>>>> Now that file is impossible to open in the phone, it stalls. I could
>>>> open it on the computer and save to a different name, but one or two
>>>> lines are lost.
>>>>
>>>> It's done it again. Can't open the file in the phone.
>>>
>>> That's the reason, why we have a thing called "backup" ;-).
>>
>> Seriously?
>>
>> How would I do a backup while driving?
> 
> I wouldn't. My files are backed up automatically. See my other post
> about that.
> 
> [...]>> There is also OpenOffice for Android which works quite well:
>>>
>>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice>
>>
>>
>> No, there is not. It is a viewer only.
> 
> I use it - not as a viewer only.
> 
>>> I never used Google Office products in my life, so I can't tell.
>>
>> Sigh.
> 
> Maybe the right opportunity to think about your choice of using Google
> Docs instead of alternatives.

Google docs is the first hit I found, and it did the job with comfort.

Now I have something else.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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