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  Re: Stupid Google Play Services Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-06-27 18:48 +0000
    Re: Stupid Google Play Services Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-06-27 21:25 +0000
      Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 14:59 -0700
      Re: Stupid Google Play Services Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-06-28 12:43 +0000
        Re: Stupid Google Play Services Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-06-29 18:08 +0000
    Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 14:57 -0700
      Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 15:15 -0700
        Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 23:25 -0700
        Re: Stupid Google Play Services Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-06-28 13:02 +0000
        Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 00:09 -0700
        Re: Stupid Google Play Services Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-06-29 08:49 +0100
          Re: Stupid Google Play Services chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 10:04 +0100
            Re: Stupid Google Play Services tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-06-29 18:37 -0400
              Re: Stupid Google Play Services J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-06-29 17:33 -0700
                Re: Stupid Google Play Services tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-06-29 22:30 -0400
            Re: Stupid Google Play Services chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:48 +0100
              Re: Stupid Google Play Services chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 09:04 +0100
                Re: Stupid Google Play Services J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 15:08 -0700
                Re: Stupid Google Play Services chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 14:28 +0100
                  Re: Stupid Google Play Services J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-03 09:55 -0700
                    Re: Stupid Google Play Services Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-07-03 19:15 +0100
                      Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 14:49 -0700
                        Re: Stupid Google Play Services tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-07-03 20:54 -0400
                          Re: Stupid Google Play Services J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-04 00:00 -0700
                            Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 05:56 -0700
                              Re: Stupid Google Play Services tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-07-04 15:57 -0400
                                Re: Stupid Google Play Services J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-04 14:42 -0700
                          Re: Stupid Google Play Services The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 05:54 -0700
      Re: Stupid Google Play Services lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2015-06-29 02:10 +0000

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#20715

J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> writes:
> chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 02/07/2015 17:36, J0HNS0N wrote:
>
>> '!=' means 'not equal to'.
>
> New one on me. Thought it was a typo. Can't find it on Wikipedia.
> Programming script?

It’s used in C and many other programming languages.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#20719

On 07/03/2015 02:23 PM, J0HNS0N wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 19:15:52 +0100, Richard Kettlewell
> <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> writes:
>>> chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On 02/07/2015 17:36, J0HNS0N wrote:
>>>
>>>> '!=' means 'not equal to'.
>>>
>>> New one on me. Thought it was a typo. Can't find it on Wikipedia.
>>> Programming script?
>>
>>It?s used in C and many other programming languages.
>
> Ah that explains it. My programming experience was first in Atari
> Basic on an Atarii 800XL console. And later with QBasic in DOS 5.
> Everybody was into it back then. Grandmothers were writing their own
> programs. Magazines were devoted entirely to Basic code for the
> general public. The good old days...

My 10-YO son learned to program by fixing the games in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Computer-Digital-Equipment-Corporation/dp/999381038X

I wonder if he still has it...

> Anyway, thank's for the info, I'll know it isn't a typo if I ever see
> it again.

-- 
Cheers, Bev

   "I love this country...
   ...and the freedoms we used to have..."
                      --George Carlin

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#20720

On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:49:21 -0700, The Real Bev wrote of her son, 10-YO at
the time,

> ... fixing the games in this book:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Computer-Digital-Equipment-Corporation/dp/999381038X
> 
> I wonder if he still has it ...

If he does, he should sell it while it's still so valuable: Amazon lists...

> ... 2 New from $2,563.01 ...

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#20727

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>J0HNS0N wrote:

>> Wonder what the Kindle edition would bring...

>Pdf file available here:
>
>http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/_Books/101_BASIC_Computer_Games_Mar75.pdf

Got it thanks. Fascinating. And that answers my question as to the
Kindle edition cost: Free...

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#20730

On 07/04/2015 12:00 AM, J0HNS0N wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>J0HNS0N wrote:
>
>>> Wonder what the Kindle edition would bring...
>
>>Pdf file available here:
>>
>>http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/_Books/101_BASIC_Computer_Games_Mar75.pdf
>
> Got it thanks. Fascinating. And that answers my question as to the
> Kindle edition cost: Free...

Many of them didn't work, which seems really slipshod.  Who publishes 
something with errors a 10-YO with no computer experience can find?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
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If you're ever about to be mugged by a couple
of clowns, don't hesitate - go for the juggler.

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#20736

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 05:56:00 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> Many of them didn't work, which seems really slipshod.  Who publishes 
> something with errors a 10-YO with no computer experience can find?

Lots of simple typos. First one I spotted, right in the TOC, item ORBIT:

> Destroy  an  orbiting  germ-laiden  enemy  spaceship 

Really? "laiden"? And even before that (tho' maybe it's a matter of taste):

> Play  acey-ducey ...

To me it was always acey-deucey :-) . The "two" card is a  deuce. "Duce"
refers to Mussolini ("il Duce", the duke, phon.; "ill DOO-tshay").

Page 12 shows an author as located in Prairie  View,   Illinois.
On page 13, in the program listing, that's  PRAIRE  YIEW,    ILL

Poor proofing? Or poor OCR in/after the scanning to PDF? Or both?

Anyway, typos like those can play havoc with program routines :-) .

Kudos to your son for wrangling with them! Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#20743

 tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

>typos like those can play havoc with program routines :-) .

Back when I used to manually copy a 3 page (or more) small type Basic
program out of a computer magazine I always ended up with many typos.
When first run (most of the time) it would tell me which line the
error was on so that part was relatively easy. However many times the
typos actually made sense to the computer which sent the program in
odd directions. Those were the hard ones.

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#20729

On 07/03/2015 10:38 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:48:53 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> If he still has it it's probably full of notes and corrections.
>>
>> Pdf file available here:
>>
>> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/_Books/101_BASIC_Computer_Games_Mar75.pdf
>
> Has he PDF-ed his corrections and emendations? Might be interesting :-) .

Not HIS pdf!


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Cheers, Bev
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If you're ever about to be mugged by a couple
of clowns, don't hesitate - go for the juggler.

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#20557

On 2015-06-28, John B <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:57:37 -0700, The Real Bev
><bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 06/27/2015 11:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> ...use up 18% (HALF of my current usage) batter and I had wifi off and
>>>> didn't want to use ANY google stuff.  Can't even force it to stop.
>>>
>>>    Did you have mobile data on? If so, Google Play Services *does* use
>>> mobile data even if you tell it to use WiFi only. And no it's not lying,
>>> it never said it didn't use mobile data for *checking* (for updates),
>>> did it!? :-(
>>
>>No phone data plan at all.  Digging around I found a setting for phone 
>>data usage, which was set to ON.  So the updating feature checks all the 
>>time even when there's no data plan or wifi signal available at all?
>>
>>>    To fix the latter, you have to turn on data usage monitoring and then
>>> check the per-app data usage. You'll see that Google Play Services is
>>> using mobile data and there's a setting to turn that off. (Sorry, no
>>> detailed instructions, I'm using a *real* computer ATM! :-))
>>>
>>>> How many battery companies does google own?
>>>
>>>    Have you turned off any and all checking for updates and automatic
>>> updating?
>>
>>I can't even find the place where I might do that.  I can check for 
>>updates for the Motorola/Android OS, but no ability at all to prevent 
>>apps from autoupdating.  I looked through the 'help' on the phone and 
>>the downloaded documentation on my computer.  NOTHING.
>>
>
> Try "Google Play" then the three line logo in upper L.H. corner (as
> you view it), than seven down from the top "Settings" than Auto-update
> apps" and Notifications, "App updates available".
>
>>>    FWIW, I find automatic checking/updating (of Android apps) more a
>>> nuisance than an advantage. I'm not interested in notifications of
>>> updates for stuff I don't use, and am only slightly interested in
>>> notifications for stuff I do use. If I want/need, I'm quite capable of
>>> doing a manual check, thank you very much! :-(
>>
>>I'm not, or at least I haven't found how to do it.
>>
>>Motorola Moto G (2nd Gen).  Damn, I need to do some googling...
> --
> cheers,
>
> John B.
>
I don't have/use a "smart" phone, just the old fashioned dumb phone.
It looks to me that the update process has been changed with lolliipop.
I have to do more in approving(?) or/and select update all for stuff
that used to be auto-updated; will have to pay attention more on what
will be updated; the Galaxy Tab Pro still don't need to select update
when getting the notification as the notification usually say that such
and such got updated.

Looks like I need to pay attention to the differences as both tablets
have the same apps... Will need to pay attention to what happens
on the ASUS MemoPad that I use as a universal remote controller; the
ASUS does require the OK to update all even if the apps were ASUS 
bloatware!

Guess I may not be too anxious to get Android 5.x onto the Galaxy Tab
Pro. 

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