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How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?

Started byMarion <marionf@fact.com>
First post2025-09-15 21:15 +0000
Last post2025-09-23 16:29 +0000
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  How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-09-15 21:15 +0000
    Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-15 17:57 -0400
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-09-15 23:26 +0000
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-15 17:07 -0700
    Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-15 23:09 +0000
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-09-16 00:08 +0000
    Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> - 2025-09-16 08:10 +0700
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-09-16 02:00 +0000
    Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 01:49 +0000
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-09-15 19:41 -0700
    Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-22 12:42 +0200
      Re: How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory? Marion <marionf@fact.com> - 2025-09-23 16:29 +0000

#150579 — How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?

FromMarion <marionf@fact.com>
Date2025-09-15 21:15 +0000
SubjectHow many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
Message-ID<10a9vla$2cr4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?

I have almost a thousand packages, with well over five hundred 3rd-party
installed apps on 64GB of internal storage so rest assured it can be done.

2021 T-Mobile SM-A326U Samsung Galaxy A32-5G with 64GB internal storage.

External storage is an sd card formatted with the volume label 0000-0001 so
that it can be swapped at any time I wish to replace it with a larger card.

Let me look right now for exactly how many user-installed apps I have.
 C:\> adb shell "pm list packages | wc -l"

      960 
 C:\> adb shell pm list packages | find /c /v ""
      960

 C:\> adb shell "pm list packages -3 | wc -l"
      570
 C:\> adb shell pm list packages -3 | find /c /v ""

      570

The number of pre-installed packages show up as "system" packages:
 C:\> adb shell "pm list packages -s | wc -l"
      390
 C:\> adb shell pm list packages -s | find /c /v ""

      390

Note that 390 + 570 = 960

Note that there is no Google/Samsung account on my device (for privacy).
And note that it's impossible for me to purchase an app because I've
removed that capability; so rest assured every app below is freeware.

Here are the 390 system packages:
  <com.sec.android.RilServiceModeApp>
  <com.samsung.oda.service>
  <com.sec.android.provider.emergencymode>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.permissioncontroller.forframework>
  <com.sec.android.iaft>
  <com.samsung.android.app.telephonyui.esimclient>
  <com.samsung.android.vtcamerasettings>
  <com.samsung.android.dsms>
  <com.android.dreams.phototable>
  <com.samsung.android.mcfds>
  <com.samsung.android.smartface.overlay>
  <com.samsung.android.knox.kpecore>
  <com.samsung.internal.systemui.navbar.sec_gestural_no_hint>
  <com.android.companiondevicemanager>
  <com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim>
  <com.samsung.android.lool>
  <com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby>
  <com.android.providers.downloads>
  <com.sec.android.app.parser>
  <com.android.bluetoothmidiservice>
  <com.facebook.appmanager>
  <com.google.android.printservice.recommendation>
  <com.samsung.android.app.galaxyfinder>
  <com.sec.facatfunction>
  <com.google.android.captiveportallogin>
  <com.google.android.networkstack>
  <com.android.keychain>
  <com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.asi>
  <com.sec.android.app.DataCreate>
  <com.samsung.ipservice>
  <com.sprint.ms.cdm>
  <com.android.shell>
  <com.samsung.android.accessibility.talkback>
  <com.google.android.ondevicepersonalization.services>
  <com.sec.android.app.magnifier>
  <com.android.bookmarkprovider>
  <com.samsung.android.wifi.softapwpathree.resources>
  <com.samsung.android.app.contacts>
  <com.osp.app.signin>
  <com.android.sharedstoragebackup>
  <com.android.providers.media>
  <com.android.providers.calendar>
  <com.android.providers.blockednumber>
  <com.google.android.documentsui>
  <com.samsung.android.knox.attestation>
  <com.knox.vpn.proxyhandler>
  <com.samsung.android.smartcallprovider>
  <com.sec.bcservice>
  <com.android.proxyhandler>
  <com.samsung.app.newtrim>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.permissioncontroller>
  <com.android.emergency>
  <com.google.android.gms.location.history>
  <com.samsung.android.peripheral.framework>
  <com.sec.android.app.setupwizardlegalprovider>
  <com.android.carrierdefaultapp>
  <com.samsung.android.mdx>
  <com.android.backupconfirm>
  <com.samsung.android.mdm>
  <com.google.android.apps.tachyon>
  <com.hiya.star>
  <com.android.mtp>
  <com.sec.android.app.personalization>
  <com.android.theme.font.notoserifsource>
  <com.samsung.android.smartface>
  <com.samsung.android.providers.contacts>
  <com.samsung.android.bbc.bbcagent>
  <com.samsung.android.shortcutbackupservice>
  <com.diotek.sec.lookup.dictionary>
  <com.samsung.android.mcfserver>
  <com.android.wallpapercropper>
  <com.samsung.accessibility>
  <com.samsung.android.app.parentalcare>
  <com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.geotz>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural>
  <com.sec.sprextension>
  <com.android.settings.intelligence>
  <com.sec.android.app.factorykeystring>
  <com.samsung.internal.systemui.navbar.sec_gestural>
  <com.samsung.android.knox.pushmanager>
  <com.sec.android.app.bluetoothagent>
  <com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub>
  <com.google.android.webview>
  <com.google.android.sdksandbox>
  <com.google.android.cellbroadcastservice>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.threebutton>
  <com.android.egg>
  <com.samsung.android.wifi.softap.resources>
  <com.samsung.android.networkstack>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.modulemetadata.forframework>
  <com.samsung.android.callbgprovider>
  <com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent>
  <com.samsung.android.container>
  <com.sec.epdg>
  <com.samsung.android.bluelightfilter>
  <com.samsung.android.smartsuggestions>
  <com.sprint.ce.updater>
  <com.samsung.android.wcmurlsnetworkstack>
  <com.google.android.packageinstaller>
  <com.android.se>
  <com.samsung.android.app.clockpack>
  <com.sec.hiddenmenu>
  <com.sec.location.nfwlocationprivacy>
  <com.samsung.android.mdx.quickboard>
  <com.sec.android.app.hwmoduletest>
  <com.android.bips>
  <com.google.android.partnersetup>
  <com.google.android.projection.gearhead>
  <com.sprint.ms.smf.services>
  <com.mediatek.systemuiresoverlay>
  <com.sec.android.emergencylauncher>
  <com.google.android.apps.carrier.carrierwifi>
  <com.sec.android.easyonehand>
  <com.samsung.android.setting.multisound>
  <com.google.android.feedback>
  <com.samsung.android.networkstack.tethering.overlay>
  <com.sec.unifiedwfc>
  <com.samsung.android.app.taskedge>
  <com.sec.android.smartfpsadjuster>
  <com.samsung.android.dck.timesync>
  <com.sec.android.widgetapp.easymodecontactswidget>
  <com.sec.android.provider.badge>
  <com.sec.android.app.camera>
  <com.samsung.android.honeyboard>
  <com.samsung.safetyinformation>
  <com.android.providers.downloads.ui>
  <com.android.ons>
  <com.google.android.networkstack.tethering.overlay>
  <com.google.android.nearby.halfsheet>
  <com.sec.android.app.setupwizard>
  <com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare>
  <com.samsung.sec.android.application.csc>
  <com.google.android.setupwizard>
  <com.sec.mhs.smarttethering>
  <com.android.wifi.resources>
  <com.sprint.w.installer>
  <com.samsung.cmfa.AuthTouch>
  <com.android.simappdialog>
  <com.android.wallpaper.livepicker>
  <com.samsung.android.dynamiclock>
  <com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.waterfall>
  <com.sec.app.RilErrorNotifier>
  <com.samsung.android.privacydashboard>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.ext.services>
  <com.sec.phone>
  <com.samsung.android.location>
  <com.android.traceur>
  <com.samsung.android.app.routines>
  <com.samsung.android.dialer>
  <com.samsung.ims.smk>
  <com.android.location.fused>
  <com.sec.android.app.wlantest>
  <com.google.android.modulemetadata>
  <com.sec.hearingadjust>
  <com.samsung.android.knox.containercore>
  <com.google.android.ext.services>
  <com.google.android.configupdater>
  <com.samsung.android.forest>
  <com.sec.factory.cameralyzer>
  <com.samsung.android.messaging>
  <com.google.android.gms.supervision>
  <com.samsung.ssu>
  <com.samsung.android.smartmirroring>
  <com.samsung.android.authfw>
  <com.samsung.android.ipsgeofence>
  <com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.corner>
  <com.google.android.gms>
  <com.sec.android.app.soundalive>
  <com.android.printspooler>
  <com.samsung.adaptivebrightnessgo>
  <com.samsung.klmsagent>
  <com.facebook.system>
  <com.google.mainline.telemetry>
  <com.samsung.android.hdmapp>
  <com.samsung.android.ardrawing>
  <com.sec.android.app.billing>
  <com.samsung.android.mdx.kit>
  <com.samsung.android.app.dofviewer>
  <com.samsung.android.da.daagent>
  <com.test.LTEfunctionality>
  <com.android.externalstorage>
  <com.samsung.unifiedtp>
  <com.samsung.android.cmfa.framework>
  <com.android.server.telecom>
  <com.google.audio.hearing.visualization.accessibility.scribe>
  <com.samsung.android.wifi.resources>
  <com.google.android.providers.media.module>
  <com.samsung.android.svcagent>
  <com.sec.android.gallery3d>
  <com.samsung.android.widget.pictureframe>
  <com.sec.imslogger>
  <com.sec.automation>
  <com.mediatek.MtkSettingsResOverlay>
  <com.sec.android.app.servicemodeapp>
  <com.sec.omadmspr>
  <com.samsung.android.calendar>
  <com.wssyncmldm>
  <com.sec.enterprise.mdm.services.simpin>
  <com.samsung.android.inputshare>
  <com.android.calllogbackup>
  <com.samsung.android.providers.factory>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.cellbroadcastreceiver>
  <com.sec.android.app.samsungapps>
  <com.samsung.android.app.appsedge>
  <com.sec.android.diagmonagent>
  <com.sec.android.autodoodle.service>
  <com.sec.providers.assisteddialing>
  <com.android.dreams.basic>
  <com.android.mms.service>
  <com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver>
  <com.snap.camerakit.plugin.v1>
  <com.samsung.sec.android.teegris.tui_service>
  <com.sec.imsservice>
  <com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider>
  <com.samsung.android.app.sharelive>
  <com.samsung.android.localeoverlaymanager>
  <com.google.android.adservices.api>
  <com.samsung.android.themestore>
  <com.android.inputdevices>
  <com.samsung.android.incallui>
  <com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare>
  <com.mediatek.FrameworkResOverlayExt>
  <com.sec.sve>
  <com.google.android.onetimeinitializer>
  <com.google.android.permissioncontroller>
  <com.android.apps.tag>
  <com.samsung.InputEventApp>
  <com.mediatek.SettingsProviderResOverlay>
  <com.samsung.android.sdk.handwriting>
  <com.sec.android.sdhms>
  <com.mediatek.apmonitor>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.documentsui>
  <com.mtk.android.networkstack.tethering.overlay>
  <com.samsung.android.networkdiagnostic>
  <com.mediatek>
  <com.android.managedprovisioning>
  <com.mtk.android.networkstack.tethering.inprocess.overlay>
  <com.sec.android.app.launcher>
  <com.samsung.advp.imssettings>
  <com.samsung.android.biometrics.app.setting>
  <com.mediatek.mdmlsample>
  <com.samsung.android.ConnectivityUxOverlay>
  <com.android.nfc>
  <com.google.android.gsf>
  <com.samsung.knox.securefolder>
  <com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.double>
  <com.mediatek.frameworkresoverlay>
  <com.sec.epdgtestapp>
  <com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar>
  <com.samsung.android.cidmanager>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.cellbroadcastservice>
  <com.samsung.android.scloud>
  <com.android.systemui>
  <com.google.ar.core>
  <com.microsoft.skydrive>
  <com.samsung.android.mtp>
  <com.samsung.android.beaconmanager>
  <com.samsung.android.appseparation>
  <com.google.mainline.adservices>
  <com.samsung.android.app.cocktailbarservice>
  <com.samsung.android.privateshare>
  <com.monotype.android.font.samsungone>
  <com.samsung.android.video>
  <com.samsung.android.audiomirroring>
  <com.wsomacp>
  <com.android.wallpaperbackup>
  <com.samsung.android.app.soundpicker>
  <com.samsung.clipboardsaveservice>
  <com.samsung.android.app.omcagent>
  <com.android.localtransport>
  <com.samsung.SMT>
  <android>
  <com.samsung.cmh>
  <com.mediatek.cellbroadcastuiresoverlay>
  <com.samsung.android.app.clipboardedge>
  <com.samsung.android.aware.service>
  <com.tmobile.echolocate>
  <com.sec.android.CcInfo>
  <com.android.pacprocessor>
  <com.google.android.safetycenter.resources>
  <com.samsung.android.app.reminder>
  <com.sec.factory.camera>
  <com.sec.enterprise.knox.cloudmdm.smdms>
  <com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.hole>
  <com.android.settings>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_narrow_back>
  <com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.tall>
  <com.google.android.networkstack.tethering>
  <android.autoinstalls.config.samsung>
  <com.android.cameraextensions>
  <com.sec.android.app.SecSetupWizard>
  <com.sec.location.nsflp2>
  <com.samsung.android.app.telephonyui>
  <com.android.carrierconfig>
  <com.samsung.android.keycustomizationinfobackupservice>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_wide_back>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.onehanded.gestural>
  <com.samsung.android.scs>
  <com.google.android.ext.shared>
  <com.samsung.android.wifi.h2e.resources>
  <com.android.chrome>
  <com.facebook.services>
  <com.google.android.apps.maps>
  <com.sec.android.app.myfiles>
  <com.samsung.android.provider.filterprovider>
  <com.sec.android.app.ve.vebgm>
  <com.google.android.as>
  <com.samsung.android.app.dressroom>
  <com.samsung.android.samsungpositioning>
  <android.auto_generated_rro_product__>
  <com.mtk.google.android.networkstack.tethering.overlay>
  <com.samsung.android.server.wifi.mobilewips>
  <com.samsung.android.emergency>
  <com.ironsrc.aura.tmo>
  <com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant>
  <com.samsung.android.knox.analytics.uploader>
  <com.samsung.android.wallpaper.res>
  <com.samsung.android.dqagent>
  <com.samsung.android.arzone>
  <com.samsung.android.fmm>
  <com.microsoft.appmanager>
  <com.android.certinstaller>
  <com.samsung.aasaservice>
  <com.samsung.android.secsoundpicker>
  <com.android.wifi.dialog>
  <com.sec.android.app.safetyassurance>
  <com.google.android.apps.restore>
  <com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations>
  <com.android.providers.telephony>
  <com.samsung.android.easysetup>
  <com.samsung.android.stickercenter>
  <com.sec.spp.push>
  <com.tmobile.pr.adapt>
  <com.android.providers.settings>
  <com.samsung.faceservice>
  <com.android.phone>
  <com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_extra_wide_back>
  <com.sec.android.app.quicktool>
  <com.google.android.as.oss>
  <com.monotype.android.font.foundation>
  <com.android.vpndialogs>
  <com.android.uwb.resources>
  <com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.photos>
  <com.google.android.tts>
  <com.sec.android.app.clockpackage>
  <com.mediatek.batterywarning>
  <com.android.htmlviewer>
  <com.android.vending>
  <com.samsung.android.app.updatecenter>
  <com.samsung.android.sdm.config>
  <com.sec.android.daemonapp>
  <com.samsung.android.themecenter>
  <com.google.android.overlay.modules.captiveportallogin.forframework>
  <com.samsung.android.aremoji>
  <com.google.android.apps.turbo>
  <com.samsung.android.mobileservice>
  <com.samsung.android.wifi.p2paware.resources>
  <com.sec.usbsettings>
  <com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa>
  <com.samsung.android.service.stplatform>
  <com.sec.vsim.ericssonnsds.webapp>
  <com.android.providers.userdictionary>
  <com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.common>
  <com.android.cts.ctsshim>
  <com.android.bluetooth>
  <com.samsung.storyservice>
  <com.samsung.android.mateagent>
  <com.android.storagemanager>
  <com.samsung.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_no_hint>
  <com.samsung.android.game.gos>
  <com.samsung.android.app.smartcapture>
  <com.skms.android.agent>
  <com.samsung.android.ConnectivityOverlay>
  <com.sec.android.soagent>
  <com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller>
  <com.samsung.android.fast>
  <com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks>
  <com.amazon.appmanager>
  <com.mediatek.gbaservice>
  <com.samsung.android.mdecservice>
  <com.mediatek.entitlement.fcm>
  <com.android.dynsystem>
  <com.samsung.android.providers.media>
  <com.samsung.android.rubin.app>
  <com.android.hotspot2.osulogin>
  <com.samsung.android.kgclient>
  <com.google.android.connectivity.resources>
  <com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching>
  <com.samsung.android.gru>
  <com.samsung.android.scpm>


Here are the 570 3rd-party packages, every single one of which is freeware.
(I removed the capability of my phone being able to pay for anything.)
(Also there is no account on my phone - not Google - not Samsung.)
(Most of the apps below are directly from the Google Play Store, which many
people are unaware you can download from without having a Google Account).
   <krow.dev.scheme>
   <com.pixlr.removebg>
   <com.ghisler.tcplugins.LAN>
   <com.floraincognita.app.floraincognita>
   <pdf.pdfreader.pdfviewer.reader.officelens>
   <org.solovyev.android.calculator>
   <ch.opengis.qfield>
   <com.ratana.sunsurveyorlite>
   <de.szalkowski.activitylauncher>
   <com.theolivetree.webdavserver>
   <com.runitrut.dailytodoapp>
   <com.eschuenemann.outdoorsportscompanion>
   <any.shortcut>
   <org.cromite.cromite>
   <com.danielkim.soundrecorder>
   <com.windhub.marine.weather>
   <com.vrem.wifianalyzer>
   <com.simplemobiletools.calendar.pro>
   <com.nll.helper>
   <com.cybercat.acbridge>
   <mobi.maptrek.lite>
   <com.simplemobiletools.filemanager.pro>
   <co.windyapp.android>
   <photo.editor.background.eraser.blend.pic>
   <com.niksoftware.snapseed>
   <com.earth.explorer>
   <pixer.worldclock>
   <net.osmtracker>
   <com.cbfs.cbfscellidtracker>
   <com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicatorPro>
   <com.apple.trackerdetect>
   <com.termux>
   <com.pixplicity.devcheck>
   <com.la.local.weather.forecast.app>
   <com.srjuen.exifviewer>
   <org.amoradi.syncopoli>
   <com.codespaceapps.listeningapp>
   <com.toralabs.deviceinfo>
   <aws.apps.networkInfoIi>
   <com.krengr.wpc>
   <com.Go.EngModeMtkShortcut>
   <net.psyberia.offlinemaps>
   <twoxmars.packagenameviewer>
   <com.simplemobiletools.musicplayer>
   <org.openorienteering.mapper>
   <com.casraq.android.apksignaturechecker>
   <com.blueline.signalchecklite>
   <org.bromite.chromium>
   <com.sand.remotesupportaddon>
   <krow.dev.addetector>
   <com.mirfatif.mylocation>
   <com.keuwl.gpswaypoints>
   <org.torproject.torbrowser>
   <de.blinkt.openvpn>
   <info.maigo.lab.intentviewer>
   <com.ghostery.android.ghostery>
   <org.schabi.newpipe.debug>
   <com.smartpack.packagemanager>
   <com.cemique.shortcutwidgets>
   <com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro>
   <io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager>
   <com.lholman.hiweather>
   <org.aospstudio.files>
   <com.github.bmx666.appcachecleaner.googleplay>
   <com.keuwl.sandtimer>
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#150580

Fromknuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-09-15 17:57 -0400
Message-ID<10aa24r$27cav$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150579
On 09/15/2025 5:15 PM, Marion wrote:
> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
> 
> I have almost a thousand packages, with well over five hundred 3rd-party
> installed apps on 64GB of internal storage so rest assured it can be done.
> 
> 2021 T-Mobile SM-A326U Samsung Galaxy A32-5G with 64GB internal storage.
> 
> External storage is an sd card formatted with the volume label 0000-0001 so
> that it can be swapped at any time I wish to replace it with a larger card.
DUMB QUESTIONS:
How many of those 1000 apps do you use in a week?
How many have you not used in the last year?-+*

Other than those that came on my Moto G Pure, I have installed less that 
a dozen apps on my phone.  Some of the MFG Installed apps I have 
removed, as I never used them, or have no idea what they do.

If I never use an app, it is uninstalled.

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#150582

FromMarion <marionf@fact.com>
Date2025-09-15 23:26 +0000
Message-ID<10aa7ad$m50$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#150580
knuttle wrote:
> How many of those 1000 apps do you use in a week?

That's a good question, where I am one of the most organized computer users
you'll ever meet in your entire life - on both desktop & mobile platforms.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/fW38dhsX/android-windows-menus.jpg> My Menus Today

Every computer, for decades, & every phone, has the same standard hierarchy
since you do the same things on desktops as you do on mobile devices, as
the folders and menus are organized by what the programs/apps do for you.
Row 1: time, telecom ... buy, files 
Row 2: network, web... nature, maps
Row 3: pictures, audio & video
Row 4: todo
Row 5: sensor
Row 6: apk
Row 7: system

So all the most-used apps are in the home page in orderly folders (same as
with the Windows desktop) where I keep ordering them as I use them most.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/fT2J40RD/windows-cascade-menu.jpg> Windows browsers

> How many have you not used in the last year?-+*

It's a great question, where I test software a lot, e.g., I've tested every
free app ever suggested on these newsgroups but I don't always delete them.

I give every app one strike and they're out, but if they pass that test,
then I may or may not delete the app after I am done testing it for us.

I looked up how to test for the Android UsageStats database which is only
accessible if the device grants the PACKAGE_USAGE_STATS permission to an
app (or we can figure out how to pull the raw database from the phone).

This is apparently the command to dump the current usage stats:
 C:\> adb shell dumpsys usagestats
      This dumped a lot of JSON-like text with entries of the form:
       First used -> firstTimeStamp
       Last used -> lastTimeUsed
       Most/least used -> totalTimeInForeground

There are ways to hone that long statistics output log though:
 C:\> adb shell dumpsys usagestats daily
 C:\> adb shell dumpsys usagestats weekly

It's really crippling that you can't do anything like this with iOS.
It's amazing how brain dead iOS is in that it is a toy in all ways.

Anyway, on a real operating system (not a toy operating system like iOS),
you can run a command such as this one to
 a. Pull usage stats from the device.
 b. Filter only package= and totalTimeInForeground lines.
 c. Pair each package with its total foreground time.
 d. Sort by usage time (highest first).
 e. Show the top 10 most-used apps.

 C:\> powershell
 PS\> adb shell dumpsys usagestats | Select-String -Pattern "package=", "lastTimeUsed" | ForEach-Object { $_.ToString().Trim() } | ForEach-Object -Begin { $pkg = "" } -Process { if ($_ -like "package=*") { $pkg = ($_ -split "=")[1] } elseif ($_ -like "lastTimeUsed*") { $time = ($_ -split "=")[1]; [PSCustomObject]@{ Package = $pkg; LastUsed = [datetime]::ParseExact($time, "yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss", $null) } } } | Sort-Object LastUsed -Descending | Select-Object -First 10

Here is a PowerShell one-liner version that will give us the most recently
used apps (sorted by lastTimeUsed) from adb shell dumpsys usagestats on an
unrooted Android device. 

What it will do is
 a. Pull usage stats from your phone.
 b. Filter only package= and lastTimeUsed lines.
 c. Pair each package with its last-used timestamp.
 d. Sort by most recent first.
 e. Show the top 10.

 C:\> powershell
 PS:\> adb shell dumpsys usagestats | Select-String -Pattern "package=", "lastTimeUsed" | ForEach-Object { $_.ToString().Trim() } | ForEach-Object -Begin { $pkg = "" } -Process { if ($_ -like "package=*") { $pkg = ($_ -split "=")[1] } elseif ($_ -like "lastTimeUsed*") { $time = ($_ -split "=")[1]; [PSCustomObject]@{ Package = $pkg; LastUsed = [datetime]::ParseExact($time, "yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss", $null) } } } | Sort-Object LastUsed -Descending | Select-Object -First 10

Note: If we want least recently used instead, all we need to do is change
-Descending to -Ascending.

> Other than those that came on my Moto G Pure, I have installed less that 
> a dozen apps on my phone. 

Ah. That's good to know as it helps all of us to see what our friends on
this newsgroup have installed on their devices. With this information we
can make better decisions, which is why we're always asking questions.

> Some of the MFG Installed apps I have 
> removed, as I never used them, or have no idea what they do.

Yes. I removed all the Samsung-supplied bloatware that I could remove. 
Many people don't know you can remove YouTube, Chrome, etc. also.
You replace them with the FOSS more-functional replacement apps such as
Aurora & NewPipe & Bromite/Chromite & FairEmail & PulseSMS, etc.

> If I never use an app, it is uninstalled.

The good news is on unrooted Android, you can uninstall almost any app from
the user partition, which makes it great to get rid of Google spyware.
 C:\> adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vending
And, the beauty of Android, which iOS couldn't possibly match, is that you
can re-install any app any time you want simply by running a command.
 C:\> adb shell cmd package install-existing com.android.vending


Android always saves the original installer; iOS never does. 
Worse, it's impossible on iOS to get the original installer back, 
unless it's in the current App Store (which it almost never will be).

You can find the original installer on Android by running this command.
 C:\> adb shell pm list packages -f
That will show the APK path before the package name, so you can tell if
it's in /system (pre-installed) or /data (user-installed).

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#150584

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-09-15 17:07 -0700
Message-ID<10aa9nh$29792$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150580
On 2025-09-15 14:57, knuttle wrote:
> On 09/15/2025 5:15 PM, Marion wrote:
>> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
>>
>> I have almost a thousand packages, with well over five hundred 3rd-party
>> installed apps on 64GB of internal storage so rest assured it can be 
>> done.
>>
>> 2021 T-Mobile SM-A326U Samsung Galaxy A32-5G with 64GB internal storage.
>>
>> External storage is an sd card formatted with the volume label 
>> 0000-0001 so
>> that it can be swapped at any time I wish to replace it with a larger 
>> card.
> DUMB QUESTIONS:
> How many of those 1000 apps do you use in a week?
> How many have you not used in the last year?-+*
> 
> Other than those that came on my Moto G Pure, I have installed less that 
> a dozen apps on my phone.  Some of the MFG Installed apps I have 
> removed, as I never used them, or have no idea what they do.
> 
> If I never use an app, it is uninstalled.
> 

If I never use an app...

...well in truth it will probably just hang around, but it hardly 
matters if I've got sufficient storage.

As for Arlen, the answer is clear:

Something to brag about.

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#150581

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-09-15 23:09 +0000
Message-ID<v-mdnb7dCMQ2AVX1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#150579
On Sep 15, 2025 at 5:15:23 PM EDT, "Marion" <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
> 
> I have almost a thousand packages, with well over five hundred 3rd-party
> installed apps on 64GB of internal storage so rest assured it can be done.

Apps are not the problem, dipshit.  I have 256GB on my iPhones. I have 161GB
of music files (MP3) on my iPhone 16 Pro Max. Rest assured that can't be done
with 64GB of storage. 

I wanted 512GB in my iPhone 16 Pro Max but the company I work for did not
offer it.  All they have is 256GB. BTW I paid $650 plus tax for it, and they
pay the monthly AT&T bill. The retail price was $1200. It is my phone, I can
sell it whenever I want and get a new one from the company. I still have the
256GB 8 Plus that I paid $500 plus tax for in 2018. The retail price was $950.

Everything I have is 256GB minimum. iPhones/iPods/iPads.   I also have 512GB
and 1TB iPad Pros. I have 3.7TB of MP3 music files on my Windows server, which
I routinely connect to via Wi-Fi networking using the iOS Files app, to get my
MP3 files for mobile use. The networking you claimed could not be done without
adding 3rd party apps to iPhones/iPads. 

I also have a 2TB SSD on this new M4 Mac mini and 1TB in my M2 MacBook Pro. 

Storage is SO MUCH more than just apps, troll boy.

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#150585

FromMarion <marionf@fact.com>
Date2025-09-16 00:08 +0000
Message-ID<10aa9q4$p7s$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#150581
Tyrone wrote:
> Apps are not the problem, dipshit. 

I'm not sure why you think there is a "problem" nor why you think asking 
how many apps a typical user has installed requires you using deprecations.

I'll volunteer what I have stored on my el-cheapo free Android phone.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/HkTSDVmn/android-storage.jpg> Android storage

Note that shows the storage on the permanent 64GB storage, which no phone 
should ever need more of than that, as it's plenty, and the sd card also.

There are about a thousand packages installed on that 64GB main memory.

> I have 256GB on my iPhones. 

Of course you do. Every iPhone lacks fundamental hardware which Apple 
strategically doesn't provide you so that you *must* buy more storage!

Apple designs the iPhone to cost as much as they can possibly make it.
You have to buy all your intended storage, on day 1, up front.
At today's prices (instead of the much cheaper prices years from now).
Apple didn't become the very profitable company it is by being stupid.

> I have 161GB of music files (MP3) on my iPhone 16 Pro Max. 

That puny amount will easily fit onto any Android phone that has an sdcard 
given how fast & inexpensive even the huge quality sd cards are nowadays.

> Rest assured that can't be done with 64GB of storage. 

Heh heh heh... what you're really saying is you're sorry your device is an 
iPhone because no iPhone can store anywhere near what most Android can.

> I wanted 512GB in my iPhone 16 Pro Max but the company I work for did not
> offer it.  All they have is 256GB. BTW I paid $650 plus tax for it, and they
> pay the monthly AT&T bill. The retail price was $1200. It is my phone, I can
> sell it whenever I want and get a new one from the company. I still have the
> 256GB 8 Plus that I paid $500 plus tax for in 2018. The retail price was $950.

Thank God people like you exist so that Apple's profits can be so high.

> Everything I have is 256GB minimum. iPhones/iPods/iPads.   I also have 512GB
> and 1TB iPad Pros. I have 3.7TB of MP3 music files on my Windows server, which
> I routinely connect to via Wi-Fi networking using the iOS Files app, to get my
> MP3 files for mobile use. The networking you claimed could not be done without
> adding 3rd party apps to iPhones/iPads. 

Apple never included an sd slot in the iPhone because Apple isn't stupid.
Their profits are highly dependent on people like you doing exactly that.

They control your every action.  
Apple is the Master. You are Apple's Sklave.

> I also have a 2TB SSD on this new M4 Mac mini and 1TB in my M2 MacBook Pro. 
> Storage is SO MUCH more than just apps... 

The question was simply about how many apps people on this newsgroup 
install. I have about a thousand installed, half of which I added.

I ran this script just now which told me the last ten apps that I used.
 # dumpsys.ps1
 # Version: 1.1
 # Date: 2025-09-15
 #
 # This script uses adb to query the Android usagestats service and extract
 # the 10 most recently used apps for the primary user.
 #
 # The Package column shows the internal Android package name for each app.
 # The LastUsed column shows the date and time when that app was last in
 # the foreground or otherwise counted as "used" by the system.
 # The list is sorted so the most recently used app is at the top.
 # The timestamps are formatted as yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss in 24-hour time,
 # regardless of the system's regional settings.
 # This does not show how long the app was used, only the most recent time
 # it was active.
 
 adb shell dumpsys usagestats | Select-String "package=" | ForEach-Object {
   # Match and capture the package name from the line
   if ($_ -match 'package=([^ ]+)') {
     $pkg = $matches[1]
     # Match and capture the lastTimeUsed value from the same line
     if ($_ -match 'lastTimeUsed="([^"]+)"') {
       $time = $matches[1]
       # Skip entries with the default 1969-12-31 timestamp (never used)
       if ($time -ne '1969-12-31 16:00:00') {
         # Output as a custom object with package name and formatted datetime
         [PSCustomObject]@{ Package = $pkg; LastUsed = (Get-Date $time).ToString("yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss") }
       }
     }
   }
 } | Sort-Object LastUsed -Descending | Select-Object -First 10

My output from that script is all these system & freeware apps:
 PS:\> .\dumpsys.ps1

 Package                               LastUsed
 -------                               --------
 moe.shizuku.privileged.api            2025-11-09 19:42:56
 com.simplemobiletools.dialer          2025-11-05 06:01:53
 org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin 2025-11-05 03:45:17
 com.samsung.SMT                       2025-11-05 01:27:27
 com.sec.android.easyMover             2025-11-03 16:16:52
 org.torproject.torbrowser             2025-11-03 06:51:05
 com.enflick.android.TextNow           2025-11-02 04:45:14
 org.mozilla.firefox                   2025-11-02 04:28:00
 me.dingtone.app.im                    2025-11-02 02:48:55
 com.aefyr.sai                         2025-11-02 02:37:09
 
When you get a chance, can you run that script for your iPhone.
Let us know what information you can glean from iOS' databases.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/HkTSDVmn/android-storage.jpg> Android storage

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#150586

FromJJ <jj4public@outlook.com>
Date2025-09-16 08:10 +0700
Message-ID<2afpxea31s97$.1x89hty3xszln$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#150579
On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 21:15:23 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
> 

I haven't seen any external memory after LIM EMS.

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#150589

FromMarion <marionf@fact.com>
Date2025-09-16 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<10aagcn$2p26$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#150586
JJ wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 21:15:23 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:
>> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
>> 
> 
> I haven't seen any external memory after LIM EMS.

Yeah, we all dealt with the Lotus/Intel/Microsoft Expanded Memory
Specification in the olden days in order to add extra memory to DOS PCs in
the 1980s and early 1990s. 

Now the paradigm is you buy a phone with 64GB of storage which can easily
fit a thousand apps, so most people would be perfectly happy with that.

Then you add an sd card of whatever capacity is cheapest at the moment.
<https://i.postimg.cc/d1rDJPhn/sdcard01.jpg> $16 64GB Lexar sdcard
Usually you initially match the portable storage to the internal size.

But then, as portable storage gets cheaper by the day, you double it.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/j2VCtRPX/sdcard02.jpg> $20 128GB SanDisk sdcard

Just as in the LIM EMS days, there are clever tricks which intelligent
people employ so that the volume labels match the old & replacement card.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/7YngGTV4/swapportablememory.jpg> volume label

With that single clever trick, you can swap out storage at will!
 <https://i.postimg.cc/1XDSvStx/formatlabel.jpg> swappable storage

And all your apps (installed in the permanent storage area) work fine!
 <https://i.postimg.cc/1t8MLYgq/sdcard05.jpg> apps work great!

Apple knew they wouldn't be able to sell their cloud services and their
expensive internal memory since all you need is 64GB for any phone.

But most Android phones make full use of the portable memory sd cards!

The question here, is how many programs do you have on your 64GB phone?

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#150588

From"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-16 01:49 +0000
Message-ID<10aafnv$2abg3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150579
Marion wrote:

>How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?


According to Settings/General/About my iPhone 14 has:
134 applications
809 photos
65 videos
0 songs
128GB capacity
31.78GB available

I probably use 20 of those apps on a regular basis and maybe another 20
more sporadically.  Maybe 40+ of them are iOS apps.

More importantly my battery capacity has reached 84% and I will have to
soon make a decision whether to get it replaced or get a newer phone.
I'm leaning toward getting the battery replaced since the phone is fine
and I don't care about AI on my phone.  I also don't want to replace my
cables and carry two different types of cables -- a USB-C for a new
phone and Lightning for my work phone and Apple peripherals.

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#150591

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2025-09-15 19:41 -0700
Message-ID<10aaipg$2avj2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150588
On 9/15/2025 6:49 PM, badgolferman wrote:

<snip>

> I also don't want to replace my
> cables and carry two different types of cables -- a USB-C for a new
> phone and Lightning for my work phone and Apple peripherals.
amazon.com/dp/B0DQ64T91H

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#150657

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-22 12:42 +0200
Message-ID<mjcng7FpkpbU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150579
Marion, 2025-09-15 23:15:

> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?

Why is this important?

> I have almost a thousand packages, with well over five hundred 3rd-party
> installed apps on 64GB of internal storage so rest assured it can be done.

I have apps installed and I have enough memory.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150670

FromMarion <marionf@fact.com>
Date2025-09-23 16:29 +0000
Message-ID<10auhsu$24qs$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#150657
Arno Welzel wrote:
>> How many apps do you have installed & what is your internal memory?
> 
> Why is this important?

It's a great question, Arno, because internal memory (or storage) directly
affects how many apps, photos, videos, and in rare cases, system updates
your device can handle without slowing down or running into space issues.

For both Android and iOS, the number of apps you can install depends not
just on the total storage (like 64GB vs 256GB) but also on how much of that
is already taken up by the operating system and pre-installed apps. 

All of the customer-focused Android OEMs give you storage flexibility with
expandable/portable storage (via microSD) while iPhones don't, so choosing
the right capacity up front is far more important on iOS and on Android
phones where the OEM is focused more on profit than on customer features.

The fact is you can *easily* store 1000 apps on 64GB of internal storage.
That's a fact that I can prove simply by pointing to my own phone, Arno.

That's important information.
It means, if you don't plan on adding more than that many apps, that you
don't need to pay the astoundingly huge expense for more internal storage.

That's a big deal, Arno.

I know you'll make an excuse by saying something like "money doesn't
matter", and while that may be true, for you, it may matter to others.

What's important isn't so much the money wasted for Google's or Apple's
profits, since you & the Apple trolls seem happy to feed those profits.

In summary, it's important to know how many apps you can easily fit on the
minimum storage just like it's important to know how many miles a
motorcycle can go on a single tank of gas.

More info:
  Android storage tips: https://support.google.com/android/answer/6088895
  iPhone storage tips: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201656

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