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Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits)

Started byAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
First post2025-09-03 20:53 +0100
Last post2025-09-08 08:51 +0200
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  Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-03 20:53 +0100
    Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-05 19:04 +0000
      Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-05 23:09 +0100
    Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-06 01:18 +0100
    Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-06 15:19 +0200
      Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-06 18:07 +0100
        Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-07 02:03 +0200
          Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-07 07:45 +0100
            Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-08 08:48 +0200
              Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-08 08:23 +0100
                Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-13 12:08 +0200
    Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-09-07 14:20 +0100
      Re: Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits) Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-09-08 08:51 +0200

#150401 — Android 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits)

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-03 20:53 +0100
SubjectAndroid 16 QPR1 (aka the shiny bits)
Message-ID<mhrkmpFgq2eU1@mid.individual.net>
It's been a long time coming, after the Android 16 update itself felt 
trivial, we (Pixel owners that is) finally get the Material 3 Expressive 
UI update.

The usual sites (9to5google, android police, android authority) have all 
got summaries of the what's new ... mine's just about to reboot.

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#150447

FromJason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com>
Date2025-09-05 19:04 +0000
Message-ID<109fc8p$2jueg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150401
On 03/09/2025 20:53, Andy Burns wrote:
>It's been a long time coming, after the Android 16 update itself felt 
>trivial, we (Pixel owners that is) finally get the Material 3 Expressive 
>UI update.
>
>The usual sites (9to5google, android police, android authority) have all 
>got summaries of the what's new ... mine's just about to reboot.
>

I like it. Makes my Pixel 9 Pro feel a little smoother.

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#150449

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-05 23:09 +0100
Message-ID<mi15bvFed58U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150447
Jason H wrote:

> Makes my Pixel 9 Pro feel a little smoother.

Same on my 8a, like 'project butter' all over again.


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#150454

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-06 01:18 +0100
Message-ID<mi1curFfklcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150401
Andy Burns wrote:

> what's new

One thing I've just noticed, which I haven't heard anyone else mention 
throughout all the beta versions is the "Phone Info" screens, accessed 
by dialling *#*#4636#*#* has a to "v2" screen, as well s the original 
"v1", the V2 looks like they're part way through giving it a GUI wrapper.

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#150469

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-06 15:19 +0200
Message-ID<mi2qnfFmqvdU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150401
Andy Burns, 2025-09-03 21:53:

> It's been a long time coming, after the Android 16 update itself felt 
> trivial, we (Pixel owners that is) finally get the Material 3 Expressive 
> UI update.

I don't really like the new "Material 3 Expressive" - but unfortunately,
it got installed to my Pixel 6a as part of a regular update and now I
can't go back.

The only thing which is better now: the quick setting tiles in the
notification drawer can now be resized to use less space. But nearly
everything else got worse - transparency effects, things take up more
space, fonts are worse, colors are worse...



-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150470

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-06 18:07 +0100
Message-ID<mi381nFp43fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150469
Arno Welzel wrote:

> I don't really like the new "Material 3 Expressive" - but unfortunately,
> it got installed to my Pixel 6a as part of a regular update and now I
> can't go back.

Well M3E is effectively android 16.1, you could reload android 16, but 
then you'd have to never upgrade again.

> The only thing which is better now: the quick setting tiles in the
> notification drawer can now be resized to use less space. But nearly
> everything else got worse - transparency effects, things take up more
> space, fonts are worse, colors are worse...
Font sizes and colours are more easily changeable now, are you sure you 
can't find combinations that suit you?

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#150479

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-07 02:03 +0200
Message-ID<mi40esFt0hrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150470
Andy Burns, 2025-09-06 19:07:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
[...]>> The only thing which is better now: the quick setting tiles in the
>> notification drawer can now be resized to use less space. But nearly
>> everything else got worse - transparency effects, things take up more
>> space, fonts are worse, colors are worse...
> Font sizes and colours are more easily changeable now, are you sure you 
> can't find combinations that suit you?

I talk about the *fonts* not the *size* of it.

And the colours are not changeable at all - I can only choose either a
color palette based on the background image or *one* accent color from a
palette of fixed colors, so everything looks greenish or blueish or
similar. That's exactly as it was in Android 16 before - but the old
"Material You" design worked much better for me.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150481

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-07 07:45 +0100
Message-ID<mi4nvoF26a5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150479
Arno Welzel wrote:

> I talk about the fonts not the size of it.

As far as I know, it's still Roboto font, probably in a slightly heavier 
weight for a sort of 'plump' look?

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#150501

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-08 08:48 +0200
Message-ID<mi7ci6Ffkm3U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150481
Andy Burns, 2025-09-07 08:45:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>> I talk about the fonts not the size of it.
> 
> As far as I know, it's still Roboto font, probably in a slightly heavier 
> weight for a sort of 'plump' look?

Whatever it is, it looks worse for me and I don't understand, why you
can not even change it.

And today I also found a new bug: the name of the mobile provider, which
is displayed when you open the navigation drawer, is always written in
black, even in dark mode - so you can read it at all then. And of course
there is no setting for this.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150503

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-09-08 08:23 +0100
Message-ID<mi7ejrFg1urU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150501
Arno Welzel wrote:

> And today I also found a new bug: the name of the mobile provider, which
> is displayed when you open the navigation drawer, is always written in
> black, even in dark mode

Here, the provider is always in white. so white on black in dark mode 
and white on mid-grey in light mode, readable in both cases.

One thing which does look odd to me is the new battery icon if you don't 
have %age turned on, it's just a lozenge shaped blob.

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#150551

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-13 12:08 +0200
Message-ID<miku56Fodb7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150503
Andy Burns, 2025-09-08 09:23:

> Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>> And today I also found a new bug: the name of the mobile provider, which
>> is displayed when you open the navigation drawer, is always written in
>> black, even in dark mode
> 
> Here, the provider is always in white. so white on black in dark mode 
> and white on mid-grey in light mode, readable in both cases.
> 
> One thing which does look odd to me is the new battery icon if you don't 
> have %age turned on, it's just a lozenge shaped blob.

Yeah - everything *must* be rounded nowadays because defined shapes with
edges are bad :-(


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#150487

FromJava Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Date2025-09-07 14:20 +0100
Message-ID<109k0q1$3kro4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150401
On 2025-09-03 20:53, Andy Burns wrote:
> It's been a long time coming, after the Android 16 update itself felt 
> trivial, we (Pixel owners that is) finally get the Material 3 Expressive 
> UI update.
> 
> The usual sites (9to5google, android police, android authority) have all 
> got summaries of the what's new ... mine's just about to reboot.

Had to check for updates manually to get it.  Both before and after, I 
wish the date and day of week on the lock-screen were bigger, so, like 
the time, I could read them without glasses.

-- 

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: 
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#150502

FromArno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Date2025-09-08 08:51 +0200
Message-ID<mi7cnaFfkm3U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150487
Java Jive, 2025-09-07 15:20:

> On 2025-09-03 20:53, Andy Burns wrote:
>> It's been a long time coming, after the Android 16 update itself felt 
>> trivial, we (Pixel owners that is) finally get the Material 3 Expressive 
>> UI update.
>>
>> The usual sites (9to5google, android police, android authority) have all 
>> got summaries of the what's new ... mine's just about to reboot.
> 
> Had to check for updates manually to get it.  Both before and after, I 
> wish the date and day of week on the lock-screen were bigger, so, like 
> the time, I could read them without glasses.

Also with Android 16 and "Material Expressive" the date and day of week
are still very small and you can not change this, only the size of the
clock itself.

Accessibility or useful settings are not important, only a different
look :-(.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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