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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2025-01-03 08:21 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-01-04 02:51 +0100 |
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texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 08:21 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 13:38 +0000
Re: texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 09:31 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:23 +0000
Re: texst to a landline micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-02 18:24 -0400
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-03 09:49 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 15:48 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 20:52 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 22:24 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-04 10:21 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 12:55 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:06 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:33 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:48 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 22:56 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 19:41 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 20:01 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:43 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 22:56 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 11:00 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:06 -0500
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:47 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 09:42 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:20 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 13:39 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 15:12 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:24 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-04 15:22 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:32 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 17:08 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 18:54 +0000
Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 12:25 -0800
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 15:32 -0500
Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 13:42 -0800
Re: texst to a landline Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-05 22:35 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 22:17 +0100
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 22:37 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 09:31 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 12:19 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 12:46 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 22:34 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:07 -0500
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:48 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:08 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:37 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:36 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:07 +0100
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 12:47 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:52 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:19 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:39 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:50 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:00 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 08:35 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 08:25 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 14:01 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 11:38 -0500
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:02 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 17:42 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-04 17:40 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-05 10:28 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:24 +0000
Re: texst to a landline AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-01-04 09:40 -0700
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 18:32 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-04 15:47 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:19 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-05 09:12 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-05 10:31 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-01-04 10:25 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 00:14 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:54 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 23:34 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-06 08:23 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:35 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-06 13:43 +0000
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-06 15:10 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 16:22 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-06 10:55 -0500
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:11 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-03 19:17 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 15:26 +0100
Re: texst to a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 12:05 -0800
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 22:41 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 22:37 +0000
Re: texst to a landline Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-04 09:10 +0100
Re: texst to a landline Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-03 20:11 -0500
Re: texst to a landline "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:51 +0100
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 19:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltqresFav0lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #146115 |
Frank Slootweg wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> Here in the UK, text messages *can* be delivered to landlines, either to >> text-capable phones using an extension of the caller-ID delivery >> mechanism, or via a robot voice ... > > For my setup in The Netherlands (Vodafone mobile, Ziggo VOIP landline > (via cable Internet) it does not work. Landline phone doesn't ring, SMS > on the smartphone silently fails, but is charged by Vodafone :-). I recently converted my PSTN+VDSL service to VDSL-only, which frees up the PSTN number and can either be dropped, or ported to a VoIP provider. I sent a text from my mobile (O2/Telefonica) to my VoIP landline, previously it would arrive as text, because I have a gigaset DECT which is CLI/SMS compatible, but today it arrived using the fallback robot voice method. Trying to send a text from the DECT to mobile did nothing, except return an error after several minutes. Not sure if there's a method for SMSoVoIP? Given that T.38 exists for FAXoVoIP, I presume there's a standard somewhere?
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 15:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vl8s2v$25fia$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #146096 |
On 03.01.25 14:21, micky wrote: > When someone unknowingly sends a text to a landline, does he get some > indication back that the text did not reach the destination, because it > can't receive texts? Here fixed lines get SMS. For about 20years now? -- "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 12:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vleomu$16ev7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146101 |
On 1/3/25 6:26 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 03.01.25 14:21, micky wrote:
>> When someone unknowingly sends a text to a landline, does he get some
>> indication back that the text did not reach the destination, because it
>> can't receive texts?
>
> Here fixed lines get SMS. For about 20years now?
Ooma VOIP doesn't. When that, my t-mobile prepaid phone and my
google-voice phone were rejected I had to have the stupid site send the
code to my daughter, who phoned me. I can only see this security
theater getting worse.
jUST SEND ME A DAMN EMAIL!
--
Cheers, Bev
"Not everyone can be above average so why
shouldn't we be the ones to suck?"
--Anonymous School Board Member
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vl9hrq$2hqe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146096 |
On 1/3/2025 8:21 AM, micky wrote: > When someone unknowingly sends a text to a landline, does he get some > indication back that the text did not reach the destination, because it > can't receive texts? > That used to be the case. I use a landline and rarely use my cellphone, so I don't give out that number. But cellphone addicts assume all phones are cellphones. Until maybe 2 years ago, they would get a message that they were trying to text a landline. Then they'd call me. Now they get no message. They just tell me later that they've been texting me and I have to rail at them for being an idiot. I don't know why the change. It can't go through, so why pretend that it did? It's possible that these people are just not paying attention, but it's happened to me with multiple people, so I think they're just getting no feedback.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 22:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <562m4lxlon.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146124 |
On 2025-01-03 21:38, Newyana2 wrote: > On 1/3/2025 8:21 AM, micky wrote: >> When someone unknowingly sends a text to a landline, does he get some >> indication back that the text did not reach the destination, because it >> can't receive texts? >> > > That used to be the case. I use a landline and rarely use my cellphone, > so I don't give out that number. But cellphone addicts assume all phones > are cellphones. Until maybe 2 years ago, they would get a message that > they were trying to text a landline. Then they'd call me. Now they get no > message. They just tell me later that they've been texting me and I > have to rail at them for being an idiot. In countries like mine, you can know by looking at the first digit if a phone number is landline or mobile. But not in the north american continent. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl9or1$3qge$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146134 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-01-03 21:38, Newyana2 wrote: >> On 1/3/2025 8:21 AM, micky wrote: >>> When someone unknowingly sends a text to a landline, does he get some >>> indication back that the text did not reach the destination, because it >>> can't receive texts? >>> >> >> That used to be the case. I use a landline and rarely use my cellphone, >> so I don't give out that number. But cellphone addicts assume all phones >> are cellphones. Until maybe 2 years ago, they would get a message that >> they were trying to text a landline. Then they'd call me. Now they get no >> message. They just tell me later that they've been texting me and I >> have to rail at them for being an idiot. > > In countries like mine, you can know by looking at the first digit if a > phone number is landline or mobile. But not in the north american continent. > Same in the UK. Numbers starting 01/02/03 are landlines and those starting 07 are mobile or other "special" numbers like pagers.
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-04 09:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vlaqef$26e7q$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #146142 |
On 03.01.25 23:37, Chris wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> In countries like mine, you can know by looking at the first digit if a >> phone number is landline or mobile. But not in the north american continent. >> > > Same in the UK. Numbers starting 01/02/03 are landlines and those starting > 07 are mobile or other "special" numbers like pagers. That is the rule all over Europe. The first three digits allow a judgement which operator is used. Unfortunately the number portability is diluting that more and more. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 20:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vla1rb$5cc7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #146134 |
On 1/3/2025 4:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > In countries like mine, you can know by looking at the first digit if a > phone number is landline or mobile. But not in the north american > continent. > That's a good idea. Phone numbers mean almost nothing in the US anymore. Anyone can get any area code, which is the first 3 numbers. At this point I no longer pick up for "local" calls because they're probably not local. If it doesn't show the name of someone I know then I let the answering machine get it. Unfortunately, most people with cellphones have not registered for Caller ID, and I don't store numbers in my phone. It's not worth the trouble to have speed dialing. So I only recognize a small number of callers.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-04 02:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pqgm4lxss3.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #146150 |
On 2025-01-04 02:11, Newyana2 wrote: > On 1/3/2025 4:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> In countries like mine, you can know by looking at the first digit if >> a phone number is landline or mobile. But not in the north american >> continent. >> > > That's a good idea. Phone numbers mean almost nothing in > the US anymore. Anyone can get any area code, which is the > first 3 numbers. At this point I no longer pick up for "local" > calls because they're probably not local. If it doesn't show > the name of someone I know then I let the answering > machine get it. Unfortunately, most people with cellphones > have not registered for Caller ID, and I don't store numbers in > my phone. It's not worth the trouble to have speed dialing. > So I only recognize a small number of callers. The registering for Caller ID is an NA feature, it doesn't exist in other countries. Here you only get the number. The names are local to your terminal. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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