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  What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 02:08 +0000
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 08:11 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:24 -0600
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-01 15:46 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 04:36 +0000
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-01 10:13 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 10:50 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 12:05 +0100
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-01 07:48 -0500
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:33 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:36 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-01 13:24 -0500
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:36 +0100
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:04 +0000
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 08:47 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:40 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:16 +0100
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 08:47 +0000
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:46 +0100
                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:04 +0000
                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 18:40 -0600
                          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:10 +0000
                            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-03 11:24 -0600
                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 07:32 +0100
                          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:28 +0000
                            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-03 11:40 -0600
                              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:36 +0000
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:25 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:46 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:23 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 10:08 -0600
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 17:07 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 11:55 -0600
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:59 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:31 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:57 +0000
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:55 +0100
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 16:34 +0000
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:31 +0000
                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:24 +0100
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 02:02 -0600
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:26 +0100
                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:42 +0000
                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:25 +0100
                          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 04:42 +0000
                            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:48 +0100
                              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 16:23 +0000
                              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 19:58 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 01:56 -0600
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 11:59 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 16:57 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:32 +0000
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-01-01 22:33 +0000
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:31 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:29 -0600
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:14 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:17 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 01:14 +0000
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:52 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:05 +0100
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:49 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 05:50 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 06:00 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:35 +0100
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:55 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 17:26 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:51 +0000
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:17 +0100
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-03 04:51 +0000
                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:49 +0100
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-01 23:19 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 01:28 +0000
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 02:08 -0600
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-02 18:58 +0000
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 23:29 +0100
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-03 23:28 +0100
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-04 00:30 -0600
    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Siard <xx@xx.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:24 +0100
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:39 +0100
        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 18:25 +0000
          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-04 15:10 -0600
            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 23:15 +0100
              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 11:07 +0100
                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-05 11:34 -0600
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 10:00 +0100
                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-10 18:14 +0100
                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-10 17:33 +0000
                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-11 12:52 +0100
                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-11 14:01 -0600
                          Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-12 16:39 +0100
                            Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-12 17:53 -0600
                              Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-13 17:29 +0100
                                Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-13 15:39 -0600
                                  Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 09:57 +0100
                                    Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 13:24 +0100
                                      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-01-14 20:51 +0100
                                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-14 22:59 +0100
                        Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-13 09:20 +0000
      Re: What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:58 -0500

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#146012

R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> Carlos,
> 
> >> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
> ...
> > Good luck igniting another flame war, Arlen :-)
> 
> I think you are misjudging arlen here.  Its more than likely he really wants 
> to know what he asked for.

  And I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, real cheap,
honest!

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#146040

Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:52:44 +0100 :

> So no, I'm not interested in finding out what I can do without a login 
> to google.

Hi Carlos,

The question has absolutely nothing to do with "a login to google".

The question is about replacement functionality with inherent privacy.
  YouTube ====> replaced by ====> NewPipe
  Chrome ====> replaced by ====> Ungoogled Chromium (or Bromite)
  Google Play Store ====> replaced by ====> Aurora 
  Gmail app ====> replaced by ====> FairEmail MUA (or similar)
  etc.
  
I have plenty of Google logins. This question has nothing to do with Google
logins per se - as it has to do with a Google Account set up as an integral
component deeply ensconced in Android. That's a very important distinction.

They're completely different things, Carlos.
Especially in terms of their privacy implications.

Because people forfeit their right to privacy the instant they define a
Google Account as an integral part of the Android operating system.

But IMHO, Android works just fine WITHOUT that parasitic Google Account.

Luckily most Google apps do NOT create a Google Account on the phone.
For example, Chrome doesn't. Neither does YouTube. Nor does Google Maps.

But some Google apps do infest Android with an integral Google Account.
1. GMail app (which is easily replaced with the FairEmail MUA)
2. Google Voice app (which can be replaced by another VOIP app)
3. FitBit app (which Theo informed us also infests Android settings)

Anything else, Carlos?

It is my premise that there is no useful Google app that doesn't have an
equivalent (usually FOSS equivalent) that avoids the privacy issues.

The purpose of this thread is to find out if that premise is correct.
What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?

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#146041

R.Wieser wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:05:54 +0100 :

> And damnit, does /everyone/ here know that Andrew is the next nym of Arlen ? 
> I thought I was the only one here who knew that. :-)

Hi Rudy,

I'm still the same purposefully helpful kind & caring poster I always was.

I post here for a decade with the *same* images, the same phone for years,
the same posting style, the same quest for privacy, the same love of
Android, the same kind and helpful attitude to those who deserve it, etc.

I'm still in the Santa Cruz mountains. I still have the same phone.
I still answer people's questions using my vast knowledge, etc.

I'm the same kind-hearted humble Usenet servant I always was.

If it takes someone more than two seconds to figure out my posts, then
there's something wrong - because I don't hide who I am from anyone here.

Nothing changed except the wrapping paper on the gift of the present.
If that fools anyone, then there's something very wrong with them.

Look at these screenshots I post for example. Nobody but me does that.
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#146050

Andrew,

>> And damnit, does /everyone/ here know that Andrew is the next nym of 
>> Arlen ? I thought I was the only one here who knew that. :-)
>
> Hi Rudy,
>
> I'm still the same purposefully helpful kind & caring poster I always was.

:-D  I remember you thru the years.   Heck, your previous post already 
paints a different picture.

You are "purposely" allright, just not "helpfull" or "caring".  Instead, 
everyone else need to be helpfull *to you* - just like with your current 
question - and could not care less about offending pretty-much everyone by 
stating that nobody but one understood what you where "actually" out for.

Heck, I was pleasantly surprised when you, in the "Shortcut to Bluetooth 
Tethering?" thread, where able to comprise a tutorial (of sorts) of just 4 
steps.   Even though you implicitily called s|b stupid thruout that post. 
Yeah, you really sounded "caring" there. :-(

> I post here for a decade with the *same* images, the same phone for years,
> the same posting style, the same quest for privacy, the same love of
> Android, the same kind and helpful attitude to those who deserve it, etc.

Yeah, I remember your "tutorials". For the ones I've seen they are 
convoluted, mixing different, unrelated subjects and sometimes even stopped 
short of any kind of a conclusion.   I also remember when you posted a list 
of links, and I went thru them pointing out the problems with them.  You 
could not have cared less.   The same thing happens in this thread: you 
could not care less that I was trying to actually help you (without thumping 
my chest and letting the whole world know) to get /some/ kind of answer to 
your stated question.

> I'm still in the Santa Cruz mountains. I still have the same phone.
> I still answer people's questions using my vast knowledge, etc.

And you still change your nym once in a while, making it impossible for 
others to find your older contributions - and refuse to "deep link" to the 
relevant ones in those fora you recently linked to (same thread as above).

And wonder-upon-wonder, s|b recognised you where likely sending him on a 
wild goose chase, and told you he would not go along with that.

Your response ?   A number of posts deeper calling everybody morons, still 
refusing to post a direct link to what you /hinted/ should be in that 
forum - pretty-much confirming his suspicion.

You said there that you're "frustrated trying to help people like you", 
while your behaviour tells us that you're not really trying to help others, 
but instead are spinning tales about what all you know and do to make it 
sound as if you are something special.   You're not.  There are lots of 
people here, and chances are that at least some of those know more about 
certain subjects than you do.

I remember where you tried to tell someone who had serious job experience on 
some subject that you knew better - a claim you did not bother to support.

> I'm the same kind-hearted humble Usenet servant I always was.

Don't lie to yourself like that.  Just like now you have, effectivily, 
demanded that all others here do all the work providing you with 
replacements for all the Google apps.   You consider yourself to be the 
Master, with us here being peons.

> If it takes someone more than two seconds to figure out my posts, then
> there's something wrong - because I don't hide who I am from anyone here.

Besides you again lying to us (you change your nym ever so often), you are 
*again* mixing two unrelated subjects together and trying to make it sounds 
as if they are.

As for how easy to understand your posts are ?   I had no problem 
understanding what your initial question was asking for - and how impossible 
it was (funny that with all your knowledge you still are not able to realize 
that).   And than you made it sound as if that question, asking us to come 
up with replacements for google apps, was /not at all/ what you where 
actually asking, and that it was about a FitBit all along.

Yeah, nobody here notices that kind of shennigans. :-)

> Nothing changed except the wrapping paper on the gift of the present.
> If that fools anyone, then there's something very wrong with them.

Only a fool will be convinced that when everyone does/believes something 
else than himself it must be those others that are at fault.

> Look at these screenshots I post for example. Nobody but me does that.

Luckely so I would say.    I remember a list of your "tutorials" of years 
ago where I made mince-meat of each-and-every-one of them.  Convoluted and 
confusing, mixing unrelated subjects and sometimes not even coming to a 
conclusion.

And posting *screenshots* ?  Why ?    Whats wrong with just posting links ? 
Yeah, posting an image of where you claim to have successfully tackeled an 
undescribed problem does tell us /so much/ about your prowess.   No, really. 
/s

"Nobody can find locked ports".  Lol.  Who posted that info (on the internet 
or perhaps even usenet) for you to find (making a mockery of your "nobody") 
?    Or did you just go thu all the "help pages" netsh gives you when you 
use the "/?" argument ?   Yeah, nobody else did that ever. /s

"Trick to pin batch shortcut"   And ?  What is your conclusion to why it 
works that way ?   *That* would be interresting to people to know, so they 
can use the same method to pin other, unpinnable stuff.

"No scrcpy console window!"  The last time I checked (just a few seconds 
ago) I could just press alt + print screen and paste the result into Paint.

Ofcourse, without access to your tutotial (with its problem description and 
how you solved it with that batch file) its hard to say much about how good 
(or bad) your solution is - or if the, my, screenshot method would solve 
anything.

"Extraneous cmd window (&)"  The actual question in the image is "how do you 
put this command window in the background".  The answer is : You don't. 
Windows does not have support for it.

I can't see in that image what the solution is you arrived on (if any), but 
I do see you still do not trim down the problem to what the problem states 
(what has "sceencopy properties" to do with anything.  Or "deamon not 
running"), making it cumbersome for anyone to duplicate your problem (and 
help you to find a (better) solution).

"REG test of showwin.bat" I see you still keep abusing that "app path" 
registry "solution".

Oh well, I'm not really surprised that you do not seem to have learned 
anything more about creating helpfull material since we spoke all those 
years ago.   Even this list of screenshots (that are likely part of some 
"tutorials") show what a mess you still make of things (and are activily 
hiding anything that could give us insight to your solutions).

> If it takes anyone more than a second to figure out my posts, there's
> something very wrong - as the only ones who exclaim "I FOUND YOU!!!!!"
> are usually the trolls who only care about the wrapping paper and not the
> beauty of the vast knowledge inherent in the value imparted in the body.

You refuse to post links to to "the beauty of the vast knowledge" you claim 
you have posted somewhere, even when someone directly asks you for them.

Kiddo, you keep doing you.  Forgive me if I put you, again, into my 
"killfile" so that I do not need to read all your grand-standing and rubbish 
"tutorials".

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#146056

On 2025-01-02 11:35, R.Wieser wrote:
> Andrew,
> 
>>> And damnit, does /everyone/ here know that Andrew is the next nym of
>>> Arlen ? I thought I was the only one here who knew that. :-)
>>
>> Hi Rudy,
>>
>> I'm still the same purposefully helpful kind & caring poster I always was.
> 
> :-D  I remember you thru the years.   Heck, your previous post already
> paints a different picture.
> 
> You are "purposely" allright, just not "helpfull" or "caring".  Instead,
> everyone else need to be helpfull *to you* - just like with your current
> question - and could not care less about offending pretty-much everyone by
> stating that nobody but one understood what you where "actually" out for.

Caring? When he doesn't like what we say, he turns to insulting us.

> 
> Heck, I was pleasantly surprised when you, in the "Shortcut to Bluetooth
> Tethering?" thread, where able to comprise a tutorial (of sorts) of just 4
> steps.   Even though you implicitily called s|b stupid thruout that post.
> Yeah, you really sounded "caring" there. :-(

I don't accept said tutorials unless they are posted on a fixed web 
site, not a forum with a collection of posts. Properly indexed.


> 
>> I post here for a decade with the *same* images, the same phone for years,
>> the same posting style, the same quest for privacy, the same love of
>> Android, the same kind and helpful attitude to those who deserve it, etc.
> 
> Yeah, I remember your "tutorials". For the ones I've seen they are
> convoluted, mixing different, unrelated subjects and sometimes even stopped
> short of any kind of a conclusion.   I also remember when you posted a list
> of links, and I went thru them pointing out the problems with them.  You
> could not have cared less.   The same thing happens in this thread: you
> could not care less that I was trying to actually help you (without thumping
> my chest and letting the whole world know) to get /some/ kind of answer to
> your stated question.
> 
>> I'm still in the Santa Cruz mountains. I still have the same phone.
>> I still answer people's questions using my vast knowledge, etc.
> 
> And you still change your nym once in a while, making it impossible for
> others to find your older contributions - and refuse to "deep link" to the
> relevant ones in those fora you recently linked to (same thread as above).

Right.

...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146058

Carlos,

> Caring? When he doesn't like what we say, he turns to insulting us.

Yep.  In all those years I've known him he hasn't changed a bit in that 
regard.  That, and his expectation that we do all his work for him.

> I don't accept said tutorials unless they are posted on a fixed web site, 
> not a forum with a collection of posts. Properly indexed.

Although its ofcourse nice to have permalinks, even the ones that are ment 
as such can break given enough time (nothing is forever).   As such I, when 
its looks worthwhile or even just interresting, have the habit of copying 
the offered information to my local machine.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#146064

R.Wieser wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:26:02 +0100 :

> Although its ofcourse nice to have permalinks, even the ones that are ment 
> as such can break given enough time (nothing is forever).   As such I, when 
> its looks worthwhile or even just interresting, have the habit of copying 
> the offered information to my local machine.

Hi Rudy & Carlos,

Rest assured I'm well aware your entire lives you've been told you were 
stupid, which has never happened to me - so we're entirely different types.

I'm intelligent. You're not.
That's a BIG difference.

I've added more value to the Android newsgroup tribal knowledge in just one 
of (oh, I can't count how many - hundreds for sure - thousands over my 
life) tutorials that I've posted to Usenet all found by search engines.

In fact, you, Rudy & Carlos have *never* written even one tutorial.
Not a single one.

Which is to say I've added more value to people's knowledge in a single day 
than you both combined have added in your entire lives. Think about that.

I'm caring.
I'm helpful.
I'm extremely intelligent.
And rather detailed.

My tutorials cover every single step.
Such that I can do what only one out of a million people can do.

You hate that you can't do *any* of that.
So you judge knowledge by the number of words.

For you, the fewer the better.
Fancy that.

Your IQ is so low that in a single day I've kind-heartedly purposefully 
helpfully contributed more to our overall knowledge than the both of you 
could possibly contribute in your entire sordid sorry lives.

That's just a fact.
You hate that fact.

You spend all your time denying facts.
I spend my time disseminating them.

So you hate me.
But your hatred of me stems solely from your own hatred of your low IQ.

So be it.
You can deny every fact you hate (which is pretty much every fact).

But the fact is your IQ pales in comparison to that of mine.
So you disparage my hundreds (if not thousands) of helpful tutorials.

So be it.
I'm not here to massage your ego.

I'm here to teach people who have enough intelligence to learn.
(i.e., not you)

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#146066

On 2025-01-02 19:51, Andrew wrote:
> R.Wieser wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:26:02 +0100 :
> 
>> Although its ofcourse nice to have permalinks, even the ones that are 
>> ment as such can break given enough time (nothing is forever).   As 
>> such I, when its looks worthwhile or even just interresting, have the 
>> habit of copying the offered information to my local machine.
> 
> Hi Rudy & Carlos,
> 
> Rest assured I'm well aware your entire lives you've been told you were 
> stupid, which has never happened to me - so we're entirely different types.

Bingo! There you are with your insults. Not reading the rest, whatever 
it says.

Oh, I see you added the privacy group, to spread the insults more.

I forgot to mention that sometimes you participate in the same thread 
with more than one alias, which is a very trollish behaviour.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146078

Carlos E.R. wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 21:17:46 +0100 :

> There you are with your insults.

How many detailed tutorials have you posted to this newsgroup Carlos?

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#146090

On 2025-01-03 05:51, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 21:17:46 +0100 :
> 
>> There you are with your insults.
> 
> How many detailed tutorials have you posted to this newsgroup Carlos?

Why would I?

You haven't actually published any one, either.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146024

Andrew, 2025-01-01 03:08:

> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?

Everything what does not need a Google account. That was easy.



-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#146029

Arno Welzel wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:19:50 +0100 :

>> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
> 
> Everything what does not need a Google account. That was easy.

You have no idea how Android works if you say something that absurd.

Only Theo, so far, understood that an account on the Internet is not at all
the same thing as an account integrally set up deeply in Android settings.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/x1NZwj5G/account02.jpg>

Nobody else who posted but Theo knows anything about Android.
Not Arno. Not Frank. Not Rudy. Not Carlos. Not Mayayana. None of you.

There's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between these two things:
a. An account on the Internet
b. An account on the phone

Only Theo understood the question. Nobody else did.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Bnyr9fP1/account01.jpg>

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#146045

Andrew <andys@nospam.com> wrote:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:19:50 +0100 :
> 
>>> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
>> 
>> Everything what does not need a Google account. That was easy.
> 
> You have no idea how Android works if you say something that absurd.
> 
> Only Theo, so far, understood that an account on the Internet is not at all
> the same thing as an account integrally set up deeply in Android settings.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/x1NZwj5G/account02.jpg>
> 
> Nobody else who posted but Theo knows anything about Android.
> Not Arno. Not Frank. Not Rudy. Not Carlos. Not Mayayana. None of you.
> 
> There's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between these two things:
> a. An account on the Internet
> b. An account on the phone
> 
> Only Theo understood the question. Nobody else did.
>  <https://i.postimg.cc/Bnyr9fP1/account01.jpg>

Reset the phone, and next time when an app wants a login then refuse to
prevent having the account stored on the phone.  If you're just
protesting Google, don't login to any newly loaded app that wants you to
specify a Google account, so it doesn't get stored on your phone.  After
a reset, there are no accounts stored on the phone.  It is after *you*
specify a login that either the app will store it locally to itself, or
load it into Accounts in the Android OS.

Patient: It hurts when I do this.
Doctor: Don't do that.

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#146065

VanguardLH wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:08:37 -0600 :

> Reset the phone, and next time when an app wants a login then refuse to
> prevent having the account stored on the phone.  If you're just
> protesting Google, don't login to any newly loaded app that wants you to
> specify a Google account, so it doesn't get stored on your phone.  After
> a reset, there are no accounts stored on the phone.  It is after *you*
> specify a login that either the app will store it locally to itself, or
> load it into Accounts in the Android OS.

There are only 3 known Google apps which infest Android with a login.
And each of those 3 Google apps has a privacy-aware replacement.

Bear in mind that *plenty* of Google apps have a login that does *not*
infest the Android device with an integral account, VanguardLH.

I realize your IQ is so low you can't comprehend that basic fact.
But Theo understood. 

Nobody else understood.
Just Theo. 

And, rest assured, for those 3 apps which do infect Android with a
system-wide Google Account, there are free privacy-aware equivalents.

That's what we've learned this week.
Not you. You can't learn anything.

But we learned that.

There is no Google functionality on Android that you can't get without a
Google Account integrally set up inside the Android operating system.

If there were, someone would have mentioned it by now.

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#146140

Andrew, 2025-01-02 19:58:

> VanguardLH wrote on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:08:37 -0600 :
> 
>> Reset the phone, and next time when an app wants a login then refuse to
>> prevent having the account stored on the phone.  If you're just
>> protesting Google, don't login to any newly loaded app that wants you to
>> specify a Google account, so it doesn't get stored on your phone.  After
>> a reset, there are no accounts stored on the phone.  It is after *you*
>> specify a login that either the app will store it locally to itself, or
>> load it into Accounts in the Android OS.
> 
> There are only 3 known Google apps which infest Android with a login.
> And each of those 3 Google apps has a privacy-aware replacement.

What replacement is there for Google Wallet?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#146139

Andrew, 2025-01-02 02:28:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:19:50 +0100 :
> 
>>> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
>>
>> Everything what does not need a Google account. That was easy.
> 
> You have no idea how Android works if you say something that absurd.

Why? When you don't have a Google account you can still use Android
itself. Is that not correct?


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#146159

Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:

> Andrew, 2025-01-02 02:28:
> 
>> Arno Welzel wrote on Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:19:50 +0100 :
>> 
>>>> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
>>>
>>> Everything what does not need a Google account. That was easy.
>> 
>> You have no idea how Android works if you say something that absurd.
> 
> Why? When you don't have a Google account you can still use Android
> itself. Is that not correct?

An Android phone will work without a Google account.  Don't create one
when you first turn on the phone.  Or delete any Google account you
already created under the Android global Accounts list.  Drastically you
could reset the phone, and make sure to click Skip when asked for a
Google account.

There have already been prior dicussions here on how to remove bundled
apps, like Gmail, where uninstall is disabled.  

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#146179

On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:08 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:
> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?

Well, without a Google account I do not have access to paid apps.
There are a few important ones I can hardly do without.

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#146180

On 2025-01-04 13:24, Siard wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:08 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:
>> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
> 
> Well, without a Google account I do not have access to paid apps.
> There are a few important ones I can hardly do without.

True. I use some.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146208

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-01-04 13:24, Siard wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:08 -0000 (UTC), Andrew wrote:
> >> What can't you do on Android WITHOUT a Google Account set up in the OS?
> > 
> > Well, without a Google account I do not have access to paid apps.
> > There are a few important ones I can hardly do without.
> 
> True. I use some.

  Sigh! When will you *ever* learn, Carlos!? 'Andrew' will soon tell you
that each and every paid app can be replaced by a *better* FOSS app,
which obviously has no ads.

  Didn't you pay *any* attention when he found a replacement for the
Fitbit app!? Not that that is a paid one, but you'll (not) get the idea.

[For the humour-impaired:] :-)

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