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| Started by | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-29 03:32 +0000 |
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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 03:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:43 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 10:05 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:32 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-12-29 09:24 -0600
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2024-12-29 09:40 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2024-12-29 11:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-12-29 12:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:31 -0700
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 16:50 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:46 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:04 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:27 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:38 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:45 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 22:37 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:40 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:44 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-12-30 15:56 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:11 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:17 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 00:58 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:17 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:36 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:18 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:15 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 23:00 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-31 22:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 00:16 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 08:47 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2024-12-30 19:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:49 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:05 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 22:34 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2024-12-31 07:04 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:05 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:22 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 04:50 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 20:58 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-12-30 18:03 +1300
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 05:06 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 22:36 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-30 10:26 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Charles - 2024-12-30 17:41 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:11 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:20 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:33 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:51 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:19 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:14 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:13 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:46 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-30 12:07 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 12:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:17 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:24 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-30 14:39 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:48 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:17 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-31 16:03 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:20 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-30 06:21 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 09:00 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2024-12-29 16:18 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 12:25 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:39 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:03 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:02 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-31 08:39 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:58 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 10:01 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:41 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-01-01 00:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:20 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:50 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:53 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:36 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 12:10 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:26 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:28 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:00 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:00 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:15 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:19 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:47 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 22:22 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:36 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:41 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-02 09:53 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 10:34 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-04 11:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 21:43 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 14:45 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:37 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:47 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 22:55 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 12:56 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:48 -0800
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 12:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltfgnjFfkldU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145803 |
Frank Slootweg wrote: > Stan Brown wrote: >>> my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box >> contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle. >> I have no use for the dongle. > > The dongle is probably for being able to connect two phones together > (by means of the correct USB-something to USB-A cable) to transfer all > one's stuff from one's 'old' phone to one's 'new' phone. I think the most recent phone I bought which used a cable to do the data migration was Pixel3, can't remember what the pixel5a did, NFC bonk perhaps? The pixel8a just needed a QR code scanning from one phone to the other and leave them to it ...
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 12:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vku7dq.m5c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145844 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Frank Slootweg wrote: > > > Stan Brown wrote: > >>> my Google Pixel 8a, purchased at the end of November. the box > >> contained a USB-C cable, and a USB-A (female) to USB-C (male) dongle. > >> I have no use for the dongle. > > > > The dongle is probably for being able to connect two phones together > > (by means of the correct USB-something to USB-A cable) to transfer all > > one's stuff from one's 'old' phone to one's 'new' phone. > > I think the most recent phone I bought which used a cable to do the data > migration was Pixel3, can't remember what the pixel5a did, NFC bonk perhaps? > > The pixel8a just needed a QR code scanning from one phone to the other > and leave them to it ... You aren't an Apple seed, who get their knickers in a twist at the near mention of USB, are you!? :-) As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi (direct).
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 19:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkurka$1bsc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145845 |
Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT : > As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like > Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the > hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi > (direct). Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files. In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup). Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never had. With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting, then you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if you do that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't even know you did that. An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard. On Windows: a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped them out The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB. By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like that. Apple hates you.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 11:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkus1n$1p0i4$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145875 |
On 2024-12-30 11:17, Andrew wrote: > Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT : > >> As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like >> Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the >> hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi >> (direct). > > Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. > > For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive > letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files. > > In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup). > > Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never had. > > With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each > sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting, then > you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if you do > that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't even > know you did that. > > An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard. > > On Windows: > a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old > b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped them out > > The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked > perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB. > > By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like that. > Apple hates you. Apple chose not to provide SDCard functionality. It doesn't mean they "hate" anyone.
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| From | Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vkussp$1lq75$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145878 |
On 12/30/2024 2:24 PM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-12-30 11:17, Andrew wrote: >> Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT : >> >>> As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like >>> Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the >>> hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi >>> (direct). >> >> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. >> >> For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive >> letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files. >> >> In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup). >> >> Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never had. >> >> With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each >> sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting, then >> you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if you do >> that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't even >> know you did that. >> >> An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard. >> >> On Windows: >> a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old >> b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped >> them out >> >> The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked >> perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB. >> >> By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like that. >> Apple hates you. > > Apple chose not to provide SDCard functionality. > > It doesn't mean they "hate" anyone. DropBox and eMail are easy transfers also
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 11:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkuteq$1p875$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145881 |
On 2024-12-30 11:39, Zaidy036 wrote: > On 12/30/2024 2:24 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 11:17, Andrew wrote: >>> Frank Slootweg wrote on 30 Dec 2024 12:32:48 GMT : >>> >>>> As I mentioned, a USB cable is just an option. There are others like >>>> Wi-Fi (direct), 'cloud', etc.. What is faster probably depends on the >>>> hardware of both phones and your network. In my case, I used Wi-Fi >>>> (direct). >>> >>> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. >>> >>> For example, I connect my Android phone over Wi-Fi as a Windows drive >>> letter all the time - such that batch scripts work fine copying files. >>> >>> In addition, USB works even better (in that there is much less setup). >>> >>> Better yet, only Android has portable memory - which Apple has never >>> had. >>> >>> With portable memory, if you're intelligent enough to realize that each >>> sdcard has a volume label that you can set yourself when formatting, >>> then >>> you can format your volume label to XXXX-XXXX (or whatever) and if >>> you do >>> that, you can swap out sdcards any time you want and the phone won't >>> even >>> know you did that. >>> >>> An example I've recently done is I doubled the size of my sdcard. >>> >>> On Windows: >>> a. I formatted the *new* sdcard to the same volume label as the old >>> b. I copied all the old sdcard data to the new sdcard c. I swapped >>> them out >>> >>> The phone didn't even realize I had done that, where all the data worked >>> perfectly - and yet - I went from 64GB of external sdcard to 128 GB. >>> >>> By way of contrast, iOS is so brain dead, it can't do anything like >>> that. >>> Apple hates you. >> >> Apple chose not to provide SDCard functionality. >> >> It doesn't mean they "hate" anyone. > > DropBox and eMail are easy transfers also Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud Drive, OneDrive... ...the list is long.
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 01:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkvgmk$1gtc$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145881 |
Zaidy036 wrote on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:39:04 -0500 : > DropBox and eMail are easy transfers also In other words, the only solution for copying 128 GB (or so) of data from any Apple device that is five inches away from any Windows PC is to use the classic Apple clusterfuck method of purchasing an expensive cloud account and then transferring 128GB (or so) of data from that dumb iOS device to someone elses' (expensive) servers on the Internet and then copy that 128 GB (or so) back to the PC which was five inches away the entire time. The fact that Apple clusterfuck is how you'd do it proves the maxim: *Apple hates you*
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 16:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltiiuuFsq2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145875 |
Andrew wrote: > Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. I wasn't talking about general data transfer to/from android, but the out-of-the-box "wizard" that transfers apps, data and settings from old phone to new phone, which is a slick process.
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-01 01:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl259l$1k18$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145944 |
Andy Burns wrote on Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:03:40 +0000 : >> Frank is correct that with Android & Windows, there are many options. > I wasn't talking about general data transfer to/from android, but the > out-of-the-box "wizard" that transfers apps, data and settings from old > phone to new phone, which is a slick process. I understand. Thanks for clarifying. I'm one of the best on earth for migrating apps and data so I don't need all those marketing crutches. However, I agree that "migration" from one phone to another is pretty well handled nowadays (whether the owner is migrating an iOS or Android device). All the highly marketed migration strategies simply involve "the cloud". (IMHO) Me? I put nothing on "the cloud" so my migration is pre-planned years ahead. For example, my app migration is planned years ahead of time. 1. All my apps APKs are automatically backed up at the time of install. 2. My highly-organized home screen is periodically backed up. 3. I can install all my apps in a few seconds by sliding them over. 4. They always go EXACTLY in the new phone where they were in the old. As for my data migration, that's even easier: 1. I format my external sd card to a known volume name. 2. I tell all my apps (if possible) to store data on that external card. 3. I just pluck the card out of the old phone & pop it into the new phone. My migration is nearly 100% successful with those two simple strategies. None of this can be done with iOS as iOS is a brain dead dumb terminal. But, if you're intelligent, it can all easily be done with Android. But I'm probably one out of a million Android users who can do all that. So are you. But most people need the clusterfuck of needing to use the cloud for that.
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| From | Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 06:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.41dc4c30aefec35e9903a6@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145803 |
On 29 Dec 2024 19:25:41 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > My advice is to keep the USB dongle, it may come in handy one day. Of course! -- Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/ Shikata ga nai...
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 09:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ngSdnVO9e8pryOz6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #145757 |
On 12/28/24 22:32, Andrew wrote: > Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good > thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for too long. > > *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* > <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating-universal- > chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> > > This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were "terrified" of > interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into force. Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the industry has ever produced.
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| From | "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 16:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vkrp8s$c02$1@news.chmurka.net> |
| In reply to | #145775 |
W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for too long. >> >> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating-universal- >> chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >> >> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were "terrified" of >> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into force. > > Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface > wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the > industry has ever produced. It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major union of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this decision sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their proprietary Lightning port. Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 12:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <LrudnaRE6dKFG-z6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #145776 |
On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: > W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: > >>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for too >>> long. >>> >>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>> >>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>> "terrified" of >>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>> force. >> >> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface >> wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the >> industry has ever produced. > > It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major union > of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the > world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this decision > sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. > The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, > especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their > proprietary Lightning port. > > Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, > what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry.
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 17:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vks1gh$20co$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145780 |
bad sector wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 12:25:44 -0500 : >> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, >> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >> >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 > > Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all > notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. By forcing Apple to care about its customers, the EU did everyone a favor. There's a reason the EU forced Apple to increase the battery capacity, for example, as Apple wouldn't be able to sell a single iPhone if they did not. Not a single iPhone prior to that legislation being drafted had anywhere near the overall long-term battery life of most Android phones. Even AFTER Apple (barely) complied with the EU's battery-life statutes, no iPhone even comes close to the overall battery life of most Androids. Apple hates you.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 10:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vks2tl$13rr5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145781 |
On 2024-12-29 09:39, Andrew wrote: > bad sector wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 12:25:44 -0500 : > >>> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you >>> know, >>> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >>> >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 >> >> Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all >> notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. > > By forcing Apple to care about its customers, the EU did everyone a favor. > > There's a reason the EU forced Apple to increase the battery capacity, for > example, as Apple wouldn't be able to sell a single iPhone if they did not. This is false. > > Not a single iPhone prior to that legislation being drafted had anywhere > near the overall long-term battery life of most Android phones. This is false. > > Even AFTER Apple (barely) complied with the EU's battery-life statutes, no > iPhone even comes close to the overall battery life of most Androids. This is false. > > Apple hates you.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 10:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vks2sj$13rr5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145780 |
On 2024-12-29 09:25, bad sector wrote: > On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: >> W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >> >>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for >>>> too long. >>>> >>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>>> >>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>>> "terrified" of >>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>>> force. >>> >>> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface >>> wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the >>> industry has ever produced. >> >> It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major >> union >> of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the >> world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this >> decision >> sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. >> The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, >> especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their >> proprietary Lightning port. >> >> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, >> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >> >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 > > Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all > notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. > > Tell us all: Which industries governed by "long list[s] of required legislation" have worked out well?
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 08:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pR2dnVJ5ELOmae76nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #145783 |
On 12/29/24 13:02, Alan wrote: > On 2024-12-29 09:25, bad sector wrote: >> On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: >>> W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >>> >>>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for >>>>> too long. >>>>> >>>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>>>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>>>> >>>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>>>> "terrified" of >>>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>>>> force. >>>> >>>> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB >>>> inteface wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of >>>> shit the industry has ever produced. >>> >>> It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major >>> union >>> of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the >>> world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this >>> decision >>> sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. >>> The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, >>> especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their >>> proprietary Lightning port. >>> >>> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you >>> know, >>> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >>> >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 >> >> Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all >> notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. > > Tell us all: > > Which industries governed by "long list[s] of required legislation" have > worked out well? Irrelevant, no industry has to work out well, or at all for that matter. In a democracy it is the majoritary value systen that is supposed to rule and not 'anything/anyone making money is sacred'. We have standardized wall outlets instead of a design for each supplier even though captive houses cannot run away to a different grid. -- All species of mobile phones, media devices, Bluetooth or not, and onboard presentation systems beyond what is essential for vehicle control should automatically disable themselves within 10 meters of any vehicle in motion at any speed. "Hands-Free does NOT mean Brain-Free". In the case of approaching vehicles (pedestrian use included) that distance should be multiplied (prorated) for every 5km/h of CLOSURE speed (i.e. no such device should be operable within 200 meters of any vehicle approaching at 100 km/h). Manufacturers of devices in which such an automatic lockout feature is missing or can be disabled should first pay large fines and then be barred from the jurisdiction market. With respect to other road-hog conduct, in addition to intoxication or attention-diverting use of lethal-technology while driving, brake-checking and tailgating should also be hanging crimes. Any irresponsible vehicle handling should in fact be punished exactly as it would be in the case of irresponsible weapons handling (which ALSO needs to be beefed up).
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 15:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl14at$2a5ve$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145783 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2024-12-29 09:25, bad sector wrote: >> On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: >>> W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >>> >>>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for >>>>> too long. >>>>> >>>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>>>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>>>> >>>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>>>> "terrified" of >>>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>>>> force. >>>> >>>> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface >>>> wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the >>>> industry has ever produced. >>> >>> It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major >>> union >>> of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the >>> world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this >>> decision >>> sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. >>> The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, >>> especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their >>> proprietary Lightning port. >>> >>> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, >>> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >>> >>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 >> >> Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all >> notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. >> >> > > Tell us all: > > Which industries governed by "long list[s] of required legislation" have > worked out well? Domestic airlines is the clearest example. There are plenty others.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 10:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vl1bi5$2bfk9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145943 |
On 2024-12-31 07:58, Chris wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2024-12-29 09:25, bad sector wrote: >>> On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: >>>> W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >>>> >>>>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>>>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for >>>>>> too long. >>>>>> >>>>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>>>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>>>>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>>>>> >>>>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>>>>> "terrified" of >>>>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>>>>> force. >>>>> >>>>> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface >>>>> wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the >>>>> industry has ever produced. >>>> >>>> It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major >>>> union >>>> of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the >>>> world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this >>>> decision >>>> sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. >>>> The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, >>>> especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their >>>> proprietary Lightning port. >>>> >>>> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, >>>> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >>>> >>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 >>> >>> Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all >>> notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. >>> >>> >> >> Tell us all: >> >> Which industries governed by "long list[s] of required legislation" have >> worked out well? > > Domestic airlines is the clearest example. There are plenty others. > In what world have domestic airlines worked out well for the consumer; what country?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 21:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl1oe8$2dlks$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145947 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2024-12-31 07:58, Chris wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> On 2024-12-29 09:25, bad sector wrote: >>>> On 12/29/24 10:18, Jan K. wrote: >>>>> W Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:00:21 -0500, bad sector napisal: >>>>> >>>>>>> Given Apple hates the consumer (but loves their money), this is a good >>>>>>> thing since Apple has abused its (admittedly loyal) consumers for >>>>>>> too long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force* >>>>>>> <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241228-eu-law-mandating- >>>>>>> universal- chargers-for-devices-comes-into-force> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This Saturday is the day Apple's executives saying they were >>>>>>> "terrified" of >>>>>>> interoperating with non-Apple devices begins to (finally) come into >>>>>>> force. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good move but it has a snag; it will only perpetuate the USB inteface >>>>>> wich (after microcancer $trangleware) is the worst piece of shit the >>>>>> industry has ever produced. >>>>> >>>>> It took a decade, but the EU has finally achieved what no other major >>>>> union >>>>> of countries has done: mandating a single universal connector. As the >>>>> world's largest single consumer market (500 million people), this >>>>> decision >>>>> sets a global standard, with the rest of the world following suit. >>>>> The delay was largely due to intense lobbying from manufacturers, >>>>> especially Apple, which profited significantly from licensing their >>>>> proprietary Lightning port. >>>>> >>>>> Next up on the EU's list for 2026: Easily Changeable Batteries (you know, >>>>> what every cell phone 20 years ago had before Apple). >>>>> >>>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42534851 >>>> >>>> Yeh, I could draw up a very long list of required legislation, all >>>> notion of reason, discipline and oversight has left the entire industry. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Tell us all: >>> >>> Which industries governed by "long list[s] of required legislation" have >>> worked out well? >> >> Domestic airlines is the clearest example. There are plenty others. >> > > In what world have domestic airlines worked out well for the consumer; > what country? I mean, not dying is quite an important benefit for the consumer. Regulation has created the safest form of transport in the world.
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