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  Bluetooth pairing names david <this@is.invalid> - 2024-12-25 23:43 -0700
    Re: Bluetooth pairing names Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-26 07:29 +0000
      Re: Bluetooth pairing names knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-26 08:20 -0500
      Re: Bluetooth pairing names "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-26 21:20 +0100
        Re: Bluetooth pairing names "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-26 21:31 +0100
          Re: Bluetooth pairing names Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-27 00:53 +0100
            Re: Bluetooth pairing names david <this@is.invalid> - 2024-12-26 19:42 -0700
              Re: Bluetooth pairing names Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-27 13:44 +0100
        Re: Bluetooth pairing names Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-26 21:35 +0100
          Re: Bluetooth pairing names "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-26 22:00 +0100
    Re: Bluetooth pairing names Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2024-12-29 02:18 +0000

#145650 — Bluetooth pairing names

I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".

But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
(like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?

How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

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#145652

david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
> 
> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
> 
> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
 The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
 controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
 to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
 to change the name - once paired.
-- 
Remove numerics from my email address.

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#145655

On 12/26/2024 2:29 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
> 
>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>
>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>
>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
> 
> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>   The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>   controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>   to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>   to change the name - once paired.
On my Moto G Pure, when I change the name on the device, the name is 
used on the computer to identify the connection

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#145666

On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
> 
>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>
>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>
>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
> 
> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>   The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>   controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>   to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>   to change the name - once paired.

Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
to them?

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#145667

On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>
>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of 
>>> like
>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth 
>>> names
>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>
>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>
>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>>   The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>>   controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>>   to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>>   to change the name - once paired.
> 
> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
> to them?

I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, 
computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?


What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones, 
or only in my phone.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#145672

Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:

> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
[...]
>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
>> to them?
> 
> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, 
> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?

No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.

> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones, 
> or only in my phone.

Only in your phone.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#145673

Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:

> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:
> 
>> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> [...]
>>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
>>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
>>> to them?
>> 
>> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, 
>> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?
> 
> No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.
> 
>> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones, 
>> or only in my phone.
> 
> Only in your phone.

Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

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#145677

david, 2024-12-27 03:42:

> Using <news:lt68kiF1ge3U1@mid.individual.net>, Arno Welzel wrote:
> 
>> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:31:
>>
>>> On 2024-12-26 21:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
>>>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
>>>> to them?
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask: And will that changed name be visible on other phones, 
>>> computers, etc, connecting at different times to the headphone?
>>
>> No. The name is only the local label for the headset in your phone.
>>
>>> What I mean to know is if the change is written inside the headphones, 
>>> or only in my phone.
>>
>> Only in your phone.
> 
> Is there a Bluetooth unique name lookup table somewhere on the Internet?

I'm not aware of any. But this is not needed since the device is not
identified by its name but by the device ID. The name is just text
offered by the device. A host (like a smartphone) will display the name
as it is offered, but you can change that, if you need to. The device ID
will stay the same, even with a different name in the host.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#145668

Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:

> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>
>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>
>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>
>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>>   The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>>   controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>>   to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>>   to change the name - once paired.
> 
> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I 
> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect 
> to them?

Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#145669

On 2024-12-26 21:35, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E.R., 2024-12-26 21:20:
> 
>> On 2024-12-26 08:29, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> david <this@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
>>>> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
>>>> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>>>>
>>>> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
>>>> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
>>>> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
>>>> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>>>>
>>>> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?
>>>
>>> Bluetooth devices have a Device Address similar to a MAC address.
>>>    The ranges are assigned to manufacturers by the organisation that
>>>    controls Bluetooth. The names can be anything - though they ought
>>>    to adequate to identify what you're pairing with. You may be able
>>>    to change the name - once paired.
>>
>> Wait, you say I can change the name of the, for example, headphones I
>> connect to my phone? Will that new name hold for the next time I connect
>> to them?
> 
> Yes, you can change the name. At least Android allows to do this and as
> far I remember, Windows and Linux also allow this. And it is the
> computer or smartphone which will remember that name, since the pairing
> of the device is stored, even if the headphone is not connected.
> 

Ah. Thanks.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#145753

On 2024-12-26, david <this@is.invalid> wrote:
> I have some devices which pair as "E62" while others pair as "WS-1".
> Still more pair as "MK02" while others pair as "Kinivo BTH220".
> Some make sense such as my "OBDII" & "ResMed495698" & "JBL TUNE500BT".
>
> But who decides what are the allowed Bluetooth pairing names for a new
> device? Is there a central agency which assigns these names (sort of like
> how domain names are assigned)? Is there a lookup table for Bluetooth names
> (like they have with the first half of MAC addresses)?
>
> How does this seemingly almost random Bluetooth name assignment happen?

As I understand it the name is sent over the air, along with the MAC
address and other  actually unique identifiers.

-- 
 Jasen.
 🇺🇦 Слава Україні

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