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  Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-16 14:46 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-16 14:22 -0600
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-16 16:12 -0500
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-16 16:30 -0600
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-16 23:56 +0100
        Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-17 10:20 +0200
          Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-17 06:33 -0500
            Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-17 10:21 -0600
              Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-18 23:23 -0500
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-19 08:24 +0200
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 03:50 -0500
                  Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-19 11:31 -0600
                    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2024-12-19 17:00 -0600
                Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-19 11:27 -0600
                  Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-22 07:33 -0500
                    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 08:32 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? clams casino <cc@invalid.cc> - 2024-12-16 13:24 -0700
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-16 15:48 -0500
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-16 18:04 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-16 22:09 +0100
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-17 10:14 +0200
      Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-17 06:22 -0500
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2024-12-17 09:41 +0000
    Re: Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:38 +0100

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#145305

On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:46:26 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
>to know if you all think Usenet is social media?    
>                                Or Social Media?  Which?  

Usenet is indeed a social medium, and more social than most other
social media, because one's communication is not controlled and
manipulated by algorithms.

>And would you answer the same for Reddit? 

I know nothing about Reddit. 

>
>They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
>friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
>or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
>once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
>replies they make. 
>
>To me that means it's not social. 

There was a time when Usenet was primarily academic rather than
social, but that time is long past. And there always was a social
element. Interactions between people vary depending on the nature of
particular newsgroups, but it is the same with other social media
platforms like Facebook. 



>
>But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
>say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
>a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
>reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
>of makes them *social* media. 
>
>So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media? 

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#145313

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:14:39 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:46:26 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
>>to know if you all think Usenet is social media?    
>>                                Or Social Media?  Which?  
>
>Usenet is indeed a social medium, and more social than most other
>social media, because one's communication is not controlled and
>manipulated by algorithms.
>
>>And would you answer the same for Reddit? 

>I know nothing about Reddit

It does have loads of control.  I got 6 emails from bots last night
saying that one or another post had been cancelled because I was new and
they said new people often posted spam (even if you read it it clearly
was on topic and not spam) , but I could object  I'd only posted 2,
maybe 3, things (one twice with changes, but I still don't know how it
got to six. 

And I still don't know if my question about noise filters for tv
antennas is "consumer" electonics or like how to find bad diodes, which
would be on topic.  

OTOH, they have a "subreddit" called spinalcordstimulator and I don't
know where else in the whole world you could find people to discuss
that, and it's a mucho important topic to those who have one or are
about to.  

It is apparently very easy to start a "subreddit" on maybe any topic. I
don't know where the bots come from or the humans who eventually oversee
them.   
    Even alt ngs were never as easy to start. OTOH, and this is so
important, it's so very easy with a ng reader to look at all the topics
and choose those that interests you.  I never found a good medical ng --
was there one? -- but but you could have one for all medicine, or one
for each standard medical specialty.   
    And with usenet, all the quesstions are there and all the replies.
With all the other fora, they send you an email, you have to open the
mail, click on it, and devot a browswer tab to it.  Plus the one or two
you had to have to ask the question, and then if you want to look at it
again, you have to find the tab, And I have far too many tabs already..
Web fora are so inefficient.  With a newsgroup reader, you can find a
thread easily.    Plus there is no moderation except in
misc.legal.moderated and maybe a few more I've never noticed. 

And I haven't found a list of all the subs.  Instead I google a topic
with the word reddit to see the names that come up.  But I did that last
night:  TV interference, subreddit. and most hits were for cutthecord,
but when I posted there, the bot cancelled me twice, I do't remember
why.    

The suggestions of how to find the right sub are lengthy and some are
absurd, 
https://old.reddit.com/r/findareddit/comments/12bkfp/meta_guide_to_finding_subreddits/

Different subreddits have different rules.  Spinalcordstiumulator has
never cancelled me. . 
. 
>
>>
>>They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
>>friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
>>or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
>>once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
>>replies they make. 
>>
>>To me that means it's not social. 
>
>There was a time when Usenet was primarily academic rather than
>social, but that time is long past. And there always was a social
>element. Interactions between people vary depending on the nature of
>particular newsgroups, but it is the same with other social media
>platforms like Facebook. 

I red one newsgroup that actually had two get togethers over a couple
years.  ONe in NYC that I went to from Baltimore and about 15 of us had
dinner together, and one I could not go to.  But people wandered away
and the ggoup folded.  I guess that one was social.    A travel forum,
what's the big onet called, TripAdvisor, had a get-together in another
country and about 6 of us went to a restaurant. About half were locals
one of whom answered 25% of all the questions asked, and half tourists. 
>
>
>>
>>But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
>>say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
>>a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
>>reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
>>of makes them *social* media. 
>>
>>So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media? 

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#145307

In message <c701mj1ok5mue46nmiedj4ve1qcindpiqm@4ax.com>, micky 
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes
>I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
>to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
>                                Or Social Media?  Which?
>
>And would you answer the same for Reddit?
>
>They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
>friends on any of them, normally.   And people don't talk about little
>or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
>once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
>replies they make.
>
>To me that means it's not social.
>
>But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
>say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
>a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
>reply.  That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
>of makes them *social* media.
>
>So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?

Yes. Even if people don't make friends, they are interacting with one 
another ,and that makes it social IMO. Not that I've ever used this 
new-fangled Reddit thing. :)

[rm newsgroup where it seems most off-topic.]
-- 
John Hall
                "I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
                 will hardly mind anything else."
                                            Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

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#145324

On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:46:26 -0500, micky wrote:

> Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.home.repair,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.software.firefox

Followup-To: alt.clueless

(What's 'Usesent'?)

-- 
s|b

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