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  Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-03 15:00 +0200
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 14:14 +0100
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-03 13:20 +0000
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 14:45 +0100
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-04 04:22 +0200
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-04 04:07 +0000
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-04 05:25 +0000
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 07:19 +0100
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 11:27 +0000
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-05 03:24 +0200
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 02:26 +0100
              Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-05 06:05 +0000
                Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-06 14:40 +0200
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 08:10 +0000
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 13:05 +0100
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 13:57 +0000
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-03 14:09 +0000
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 16:14 +0000
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 15:21 +0100
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 16:08 +0000
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:00 +0100
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:39 +0000
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-04 04:29 +0200
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 07:21 +0100
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-12-04 08:08 +0000
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 10:08 +0100
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 07:22 +0100
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 09:33 +0000
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-04 09:51 +0000
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 18:47 +0000
              Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-04 19:03 +0000
                Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 23:27 +0000
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 11:33 +0000
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 18:47 +0000
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-05 03:38 +0200
              Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:57 +0100
                Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-06 14:44 +0200
                  Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-06 14:08 +0100
                    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-07 05:59 +0200
                      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:36 +0100
                    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-10 11:59 -0500
                      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-10 18:45 +0000
                      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-10 20:37 +0100
                  Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-07 14:44 +0100
                    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-08 05:12 +0200
              Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:31 +0000
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-05 09:43 +0000
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Boris <Boris@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 17:41 +0000
      Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-04 04:31 +0200
        Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-04 05:51 +0000
          Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-12-05 03:51 +0200
            Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-05 09:49 +0000
    Re: Upgrade and pay more for less Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-03 15:57 -0500

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#144798 — Upgrade and pay more for less

I have a Samsung SM-A260F phone, and I've had it for 5 years now.

Specs here:
<https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>

My service provider keeps nagging me to "upgrade" but it seems to me
that if I do so, I'll end up paying for for less. 

I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:

1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)

2. To have more storage for all the nagging to "download the app now"
when my phone keeps telling me "your phone is getting full" and
suggesting that I zip the app, rarther than download mre apps. . 

But every phone in the catalogue that I can afford seems to have less
storage space than the one I already have.

What are the people who say "download the app" thinking?


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144799

Steve,

> What are the people who say "download the app" thinking?

More money in their koffers thru a sale (and monthy payments for an 
abbonement?) and thru the selling of your personal data they leech from your 
phone ?   :-) :-(

> 2. To have more storage for all the nagging to "download the app now"
> when my phone keeps telling me "your phone is getting full" and
> suggesting that I zip the app, rarther than download mre apps. .

Isn't there a way to disable all that nagging ? (downside: at some moment 
you might get a "I can't do that, dave" response).


All-in-all, buying a new, bigger phone just to get rid of the nagging ? 
Thats a high price for it (assuming you don't really need more apps and your 
phone does everything you want from it).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser 

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#144800

Steve Hayes wrote:

> I'll end up paying [more] for less.
> I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:
> 
> 1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)
> 2. To have more storage

I realise you live in a different part of the world, but are they really 
selling phones with 16GB or less of storage there?  I'd say most phones 
here are 128GB or 256GB, do you use an SD card?

And of course with a higher pixel camera, photos will eat storage faster.

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#144803

On 2024-12-03 14:20, Andy Burns wrote:
> Steve Hayes wrote:
> 
>> I'll end up paying [more] for less.
>> I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:
>>
>> 1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)
>> 2. To have more storage
> 
> I realise you live in a different part of the world, but are they really 
> selling phones with 16GB or less of storage there?  I'd say most phones 
> here are 128GB or 256GB, do you use an SD card?
> 
> And of course with a higher pixel camera, photos will eat storage faster.

And use more data when sending, eat more quota on the cloud, etc.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144851

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 13:20:41 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> I'll end up paying [more] for less.
>> I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:
>> 
>> 1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)
>> 2. To have more storage
>
>I realise you live in a different part of the world, but are they really 
>selling phones with 16GB or less of storage there?  I'd say most phones 
>here are 128GB or 256GB, do you use an SD card?

My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
SD card.

It keeps telling me that it's getting full. 

I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
the price. 

Banks and retailers keep telling me to download and use their app.

Every shop in the mall has its own app. 

My question reaslly is how many people can afford a phone that is big
enough for all these apps? How many of their customers can do so? How
many banking or retailer apps do you have on your phone, and how big
is the storage on your pho0ne to hold them all?








>
>And of course with a higher pixel camera, photos will eat storage faster.

-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144857

Steve Hayes wrote on Wed, 04 Dec 2024 04:22:06 +0200 :

> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
> SD card.

My phones are all free but it has been a while since I've seen anyone
around me with less than about 64GB of internal storage, and with the sd
card, the portable memory can be as much or double that for almost nothing.

As far as I'm aware, the camera eats up most of the storage, but I haven't
seen a camera app in many years that doesn't automatically save to external
sdcards.

What takes up the rest of the storage?

Well, map apps have relatively large databases (which can also be stored on
the external sd card), as do video downloaders (e.g., NewPipe). 

Also I have my Google Play Store replacement app save every APK ever
installed on the external sdcard, so that takes up a lot of storage space.

In fact, while I've lived with 64GB of external storage for a couple of
years on my free Samsung Galaxy A32-5G, I recently replaced it with a 128GB
external sd card (I forget how much it cost, but it was like ten bucks or
so) and everything went *perfectly* smoothly.

Yup. I just looked. About ten bucks for 128GB (three for 32 bucks).
 <https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-128GB-microSDXC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B0CB11S919>

Of course, I plan years ahead by formatting every external sd card on
Windows with the same volume label so the phone doesn't realize it's a
different external sd card. 

The phone sees *exactly* the same files on the new (doubled-size) external
sd card as on the old (half-sized) external sd card - but with more space.

My suggestion to the OP?

1. On Windows, look at what your 16GB external sd card volume label is
2. Buy a bigger sd card & set the volume label to exactly the same name
3. On Windows copy the files from the old sd card to the new sd card

That should vastly increase your external storage for only a few bucks.
 <https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-microSDXC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B08TJRVWV1/>

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#144863

Steve Hayes wrote:

> Banks and retailers keep telling me to download and use their app.
> Every shop in the mall has its own app.

For my main personal bank account I use their app, all other banks I 
only access from a browser on a PC.

I have loyalty cards for three supermarkets I mainly use (to avoid being 
milked for "full" price) but I don't install their apps, I keep a scan 
of the cards barcodes on the phone, in case I don't have the plastic 
cards/wallet with me, but I use other shops who don't push use of 
cards/apps too.

I have yet to install even one parking app when everyone seem to 
complain about having to install a dozen of them, if they don't accept 
coins or debit cards, tough on them.

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#144867

On 04.12.24 03:22, Steve Hayes wrote:
> Banks and retailers keep telling me to download and use their app.
> 
> Every shop in the mall has its own app. 
> 
> My question reaslly is how many people can afford a phone that is big
> enough for all these apps? How many of their customers can do so? How
> many banking or retailer apps do you have on your phone, and how big
> is the storage on your pho0ne to hold them all?

You should learn to say no. It would make your life a lot easier.
I think that your photos and other data are eating up your storage and
less the apps. A standard mid-range smartphone can handle that. 16 GB
were standard about 8-10 years ago when  I bought my Nexus 5 (2016).

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#144877

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
[...]

> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
> SD card.
> 
> It keeps telling me that it's getting full. 
> 
> I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
> the price. 

  I'm sure the 4GB is *RAM*, i.e. main memory (volatile 'storage') not
Internal Storage (permanent, non-volatile storage)!

  So you're comparing apples with oranges.
 
  Your current phone has 1GB RAM, so the upgrade has *4 times* that. So
you pay more to get more, not less.

  See the "Memory and storage" section of your reference:

<https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>

  Anyway, post a link to the specs and price of the "upgrade" so we know
what we're talking about.

[...]

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#144918

On 4 Dec 2024 11:27:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>[...]
>
>> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
>> SD card.
>> 
>> It keeps telling me that it's getting full. 
>> 
>> I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
>> the price. 
>
>  I'm sure the 4GB is *RAM*, i.e. main memory (volatile 'storage') not
>Internal Storage (permanent, non-volatile storage)!
>
>  So you're comparing apples with oranges.
> 
>  Your current phone has 1GB RAM, so the upgrade has *4 times* that. So
>you pay more to get more, not less.

Thank you. That is the kind of information I was looking for. The
information in the catalogue is very sketchy. 

>  See the "Memory and storage" section of your reference:
>
><https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>
>
>  Anyway, post a link to the specs and price of the "upgrade" so we know
>what we're talking about.

This one is just double the price of my present phone:

<https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php>


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144919

On 2024-12-05 02:24, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2024 11:27:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
>>> SD card.
>>>
>>> It keeps telling me that it's getting full.
>>>
>>> I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
>>> the price.
>>
>>   I'm sure the 4GB is *RAM*, i.e. main memory (volatile 'storage') not
>> Internal Storage (permanent, non-volatile storage)!
>>
>>   So you're comparing apples with oranges.
>>
>>   Your current phone has 1GB RAM, so the upgrade has *4 times* that. So
>> you pay more to get more, not less.
> 
> Thank you. That is the kind of information I was looking for. The
> information in the catalogue is very sketchy.
> 
>>   See the "Memory and storage" section of your reference:
>>
>> <https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>
>>
>>   Anyway, post a link to the specs and price of the "upgrade" so we know
>> what we're talking about.
> 
> This one is just double the price of my present phone:
> 
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php>

Storage can be 64 or 128 or 256 GB, depending on the model.

RAM can be 3 or 4.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144922

Carlos E.R. wrote on Thu, 5 Dec 2024 02:26:57 +0100 :

>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php>
> 
> Storage can be 64 or 128 or 256 GB, depending on the model.
> 
> RAM can be 3 or 4.

For the OP, I only have cheap phones ('cuz I get them for free, that's
why), but even so, nowadays, as others said, 64GB of internal storage is
pretty normal stuff as is an sdslot so that you can add much more.

Dunno what an sd card costs in South Africa but here, in the states, you
can get a 128GB sd card off of Amazon for a bit over ten bucks or so.

That's exactly what's in my phone, a Samsung Galaxy A32-5G:
 1. 64 GB of internal storage
 2. 128 GB of portable storage (I used to only have 64GB for years)

That works fine for me, and I consider myself pretty typical when it comes
to storage needs - but let me look up how much RAM is on my phone for you.

Settings > Battery & device care > Memory 
 3) 4GB memory (1.2 GB Available) 

What I love about being kind hearted enough to help people, I learn stuff
accidentally. I apparently have a setting for "RAM Plus" whatever that is.
 <https://www.simplymac.com/android/what-is-samsung-ram-plus-is-it-worth-it>
 "Samsung RAM Plus is a feature found in certain Samsung smartphones 
  that creates virtual RAM by using a portion of the device's internal 
  storage to provide extra temporary memory when the actual RAM is 
  running low."

I didn't even realize this existed until I looked for the OP, where my "RAM
Plus" has the option of "2GB" or "4GB" and mine is already set to 4GB.
 4) 4GB RAM Plus

I'm not sure how to interpret that reality, but if I guess based only on
knowing that it exists, I guess I have 4GB of RAM but if the phone thinks
it needs 8GB of RAM, it will take the latter out of my internal storage.

Who knew?
Not me.

Anyway, for the OP, I consider that low-end phone perfectly fine for my
needs. What does it cost now? Dunno. It was probably less than two hundred
bucks when it was brand new three years ago. 

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#144985

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 06:05:06 -0000 (UTC), Andrew <andys@nospam.com>
wrote:

>What I love about being kind hearted enough to help people, I learn stuff
>accidentally. I apparently have a setting for "RAM Plus" whatever that is.
> <https://www.simplymac.com/android/what-is-samsung-ram-plus-is-it-worth-it>
> "Samsung RAM Plus is a feature found in certain Samsung smartphones 
>  that creates virtual RAM by using a portion of the device's internal 
>  storage to provide extra temporary memory when the actual RAM is 
>  running low."
>
>I didn't even realize this existed until I looked for the OP, where my "RAM
>Plus" has the option of "2GB" or "4GB" and mine is already set to 4GB.
> 4) 4GB RAM Plus

Thanks for your help, and I didn't know that either. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144929

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2024 11:27:20 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>> 
>>> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
>>> SD card.
>>> 
>>> It keeps telling me that it's getting full. 
>>> 
>>> I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
>>> the price. 
>> 
>> I'm sure the 4GB is *RAM*, i.e. main memory (volatile 'storage') not
>> Internal Storage (permanent, non-volatile storage)!
>> 
>> So you're comparing apples with oranges.
>> 
>> Your current phone has 1GB RAM, so the upgrade has *4 times* that. So
>> you pay more to get more, not less.
> 
> Thank you. That is the kind of information I was looking for. The
> information in the catalogue is very sketchy. 
> 
>> See the "Memory and storage" section of your reference:
>> 
>> <https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>
>> 
>> Anyway, post a link to the specs and price of the "upgrade" so we know
>> what we're talking about.
> 
> This one is just double the price of my present phone:
> 
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_note_50-12799.php>

If you look closely it says it's available with 64/128/256 GB of storage.
At a minimum it has 4x the storage of your current phone. 

Unfortunately, it looks like inflation has made things much more expensive
in SA. 

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#144882

On 2024-12-04 03:22, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 13:20:41 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> Steve Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> I'll end up paying [more] for less.
>>> I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:
>>>
>>> 1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)
>>> 2. To have more storage
>>
>> I realise you live in a different part of the world, but are they really
>> selling phones with 16GB or less of storage there?  I'd say most phones
>> here are 128GB or 256GB, do you use an SD card?
> 
> My current phone has 16GB storage, according to the specs, and a 16GB
> SD card.
> 
> It keeps telling me that it's getting full.
> 
> I'm offered an "upgrade" of a phone with 4GB of storage for 2.5 times
> the price.

Ridiculous. There is something strange here. Ah, it will be RAM, as 
Frank says.

Please say exactly what model you are being offered.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144804

Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> I have a Samsung SM-A260F phone, and I've had it for 5 years now.
> 
> Specs here:
> <https://www.phonemore.com/specs/samsung/galaxy-a2-core/sm-a260f/>
> 
> My service provider keeps nagging me to "upgrade" but it seems to me
> that if I do so, I'll end up paying for for less. 
> 
> I would have 2 reasons to upgrade:
> 
> 1. To have a bigger/better camera (this one has 5Mp)
> 
> 2. To have more storage for all the nagging to "download the app now"
> when my phone keeps telling me "your phone is getting full" and
> suggesting that I zip the app, rarther than download mre apps. . 
> 
> But every phone in the catalogue that I can afford seems to have less
> storage space than the one I already have.
> 
> What are the people who say "download the app" thinking?

  As Andy mentioned, 16GB Internal Storage is indeed very/too small
these days. And while a (Micro) SD-card helps somewhat, most apps can
not be moved to the SD-card or at best only partially. Sometimes even
the apps' data can not be moved to the SD-card.

  I have an old Samsung 10.1" tablet (with Android 5.0.2) also with
16GB (and SD-card), so I know where you're coming from.

  As to getting a new phone from your "service provider". I would never
do that. I would just buy the phone and have a SIM-only contract or
pre-paid. Or don't you have those options in your country (SA?)?

  As to which phone: As you have experience with a Samsung phone, I
would go for one of their A-Series phones which 1) you can afford and 2)
has 'plenty' of Internal Storage, 128GB or more, and preferably also a
SD-card slot.

  FYI, my current phone is a four year old Samsung Galaxy A51 phone with
128GB (of which 58GB still available), dual-SIM and SD-card slot.

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#144805

Frank Slootweg wrote:

> while a (Micro) SD-card helps somewhat, most apps can
> not be moved to the SD-card or at best only partially. Sometimes even
> the apps' data can not be moved to the SD-card.

Don't most android phones allow SD cards to be used as "adoptable 
storage"? If so, that acts like an extension of internal storage, I 
don't know because Google hasn't supported SD cards in Nexus/Pixel 
phones for many years ...

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#144821

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> > while a (Micro) SD-card helps somewhat, most apps can
> > not be moved to the SD-card or at best only partially. Sometimes even
> > the apps' data can not be moved to the SD-card.
> 
> Don't most android phones allow SD cards to be used as "adoptable 
> storage"? If so, that acts like an extension of internal storage, I 
> don't know because Google hasn't supported SD cards in Nexus/Pixel 
> phones for many years ...

  Good point! My old phones were Android 4/5, which didn't have
adoptable storage, and my current phone has ample storage (128GB), so
I've never tried it, but according to his referenced specs, the OP's
phone has Android 8.1 (Oreo), so he should have adoptable storage
functionality and could try it.

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#144807

On 2024-12-03 14:57, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

...

>    As to getting a new phone from your "service provider". I would never
> do that. I would just buy the phone and have a SIM-only contract or
> pre-paid. Or don't you have those options in your country (SA?)?

In Canada (Ontario), for instance, this is hard to do. Nearly impossible 
to buy "free phones", not attached to a contract, at a normal site like 
the phone section of a supermarket. Amazon sells them.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144820

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-12-03 14:57, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> >    As to getting a new phone from your "service provider". I would never
> > do that. I would just buy the phone and have a SIM-only contract or
> > pre-paid. Or don't you have those options in your country (SA?)?
> 
> In Canada (Ontario), for instance, this is hard to do. Nearly impossible 
> to buy "free phones", not attached to a contract, at a normal site like 
> the phone section of a supermarket. Amazon sells them.

  Well, I don't expect unlocked phones at a supermarket, but I expect
them at a phone store or electronics store. A little Google search
indicates that that is the case, also in Ontario.

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