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  NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-25 22:42 +0200
    Re: NFS from Android Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-26 00:14 +0000
    Re: NFS from Android "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-26 03:08 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-10-26 08:23 +0100
        Re: NFS from Android "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-26 15:50 +0200
          Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:16 +0200
            Re: NFS from Android "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-26 21:34 +0200
          Re: NFS from Android Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-10-26 22:04 +0100
        Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:14 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-26 13:38 +0200
        Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:21 +0200
          Re: NFS from Android Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-26 15:04 +0000
            Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 17:41 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:07 +0200
    Re: NFS from Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-26 13:34 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-26 13:43 +0200
        Re: NFS from Android Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 16:25 +0200
          Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:42 +0200
          Re: NFS from Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-28 01:36 +0100
      Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:30 +0200
        Re: NFS from Android Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-10-28 01:40 +0100
    Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 16:43 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-26 21:40 +0200
        Re: NFS from Android AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-10-26 16:20 -0700
          Re: NFS from Android "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-27 03:14 +0100
            Re: NFS from Android AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-10-29 02:41 +0000
    Re: NFS from Android Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 17:06 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 17:38 +0200
        Re: NFS from Android Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-26 21:38 +0000
          Re: NFS from Android Qihe <Q@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 01:50 +0200
    Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-26 17:33 +0200
      Re: NFS from Android Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-10-26 21:48 +0000
        Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-10-27 18:34 +0100
          Re: NFS from Android Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-10-27 18:23 +0000
          Re: NFS from Android Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-10-30 09:40 +0200
            Re: NFS from Android Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> - 2024-11-01 16:42 +0100

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#143880

Massimo Peca, 2024-10-26 16:30:

> Il 26/10/24 13:34, Arno Welzel ha scritto:
> 
>>
>> Because there are not many people trying this. NFS is not the first
>> choice when it comes to sharing folders for other devices which are not
>> the typical Linux boxes. Yes, Android uses a Linux kernel - but it
>> should not be mistaken as "Linux system".
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Thank you for your contribution.
> Still, I don't think I am the only one in the world who uses an Android 
> tablet/smartphone and a Linux local area network at home.

No, but even if 100.000 people do so - this is a nearly invisible
fraction of all Android users.

> NFS is the most popular sharing protocol in the Linux environment, so I 
> would find it normal if it were accessible from other operating systems 
> as well, as you can do with Microsoft Windows.

And how popular is "using a Linux environment"? Linux on the desktop is
still a quite marginal system.

> I don't see Android being any less widespread than Windows.

No, but Linux is less widespread than Windows and therefore there are
more solutions available to access Windows file shares via CIFS/SMB.

> It seems to me to be an unwise business and technical choice.

No, the exact opposite when it comes to *business*.

The Storage Access Framework exists - go ahead and write a NFS provider
app for it ;-).


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#143845

Il 26/10/24 15:54, Stefan Ram ha scritto:
> Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> ha scritto o citato:
>> why can't I find a guide on how to mount my Linux server's NFS hard
>> disks on my Android tablet?
> 
>    *** Non ho testato la guida che segue, è solo una bozza veloce ***
>                  *** e potrebbe contenere errori! ***

Wow!
Leggerò con calma, grazie.!

Ciao.
Massimo

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#143857

On 2024-10-26 16:58, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> wrote or quoted:
>> Il 26/10/24 15:54, Stefan Ram ha scritto:
>>> *** Non ho testato la guida che segue, è solo una bozza veloce ***
>>>               *** e potrebbe contenere errori! ***
>> Wow!
>> Leggerò con calma, grazie.!
> 
>    BTW: I found this in the Web (a search engine snippet):
> 
> |NFS share from an android Tablet device - Experts Exchange
> |Jun 27, 2016 · You can run ES File Explorer -> Network _> My
> |Network and Click the Search button to locate the NFS host.
> |Click the result of finding and you will be prompted ...
> .
 > >    But, unfortunately, these apps (like ES File Explorer and AndSMB)
>    will just allow to access the shares, not to actually /mount/ them.

I'm afraid the excellent ES suite was banned from the Play store because 
they did bad things. I am not aware if someone resurrected the code 
(without the bad things) under another name.


ES File Explorer was removed from the Google Play Store in April 
2019,along with several other apps created by DO Global (formerly DU 
Group). It was claimed the company who owns ES File Explorer, DO Global, 
was committing 'click fraud' by clicking ads in users' apps in the 
background without permission.Apr 28, 2019

Why is ES File Explorer no longer available on Google Play ...
Quora
·
https://www.quora.com
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-ES-File-Explorer-no-longer-available-on-Google-Play-Store

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#143862

On 10/26/2024 12:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I'm afraid the excellent ES suite was banned from the Play store
> because they did bad things. I am not aware if someone resurrected
> the code (without the bad things) under another name.

> ES File Explorer was removed from the Google Play Store in April
> 2019...

The ES File Explorer File Manager app (version 4.2.1.3.a) is available
in the Amazon Appstore although many features do not work without a paid
monthly subscription upgrade.

For those who don't use Amazon devices their apps are Android based and
can often be transferred to non-Amazon devices. However I didn't even
try on this one because the free services are pretty basic and a paid
monthly subscription for a file manager is IMO ridiculous...

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#143865

On 2024-10-27 01:20, AJL wrote:
> On 10/26/2024 12:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I'm afraid the excellent ES suite was banned from the Play store
>> because they did bad things. I am not aware if someone resurrected
>> the code (without the bad things) under another name.
> 
>> ES File Explorer was removed from the Google Play Store in April
>> 2019...
> 
> The ES File Explorer File Manager app (version 4.2.1.3.a) is available
> in the Amazon Appstore although many features do not work without a paid
> monthly subscription upgrade.
> 
> For those who don't use Amazon devices their apps are Android based and
> can often be transferred to non-Amazon devices. However I didn't even
> try on this one because the free services are pretty basic and a paid
> monthly subscription for a file manager is IMO ridiculous...

So, they are still doing “bad things”.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#143897

On 10/26/24 7:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>On 2024-10-27 01:20, AJL wrote:
>> On 10/26/2024 12:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm afraid the excellent ES suite was banned from the Play store
>>> because they did bad things. I am not aware if someone resurrected
>>> the code (without the bad things) under another name.
>> 
>>> ES File Explorer was removed from the Google Play Store in April
>>> 2019...
>> 
>> The ES File Explorer File Manager app (version 4.2.1.3.a) is available
>> in the Amazon Appstore although many features do not work without a paid
>> monthly subscription upgrade.
>> 
>> For those who don't use Amazon devices their apps are Android based and
>> can often be transferred to non-Amazon devices. However I didn't even
>> try on this one because the free services are pretty basic and a paid
>> monthly subscription for a file manager is IMO ridiculous...
>
>So, they are still doing “bad things".

I don't know if the Play Store ban reason for ES still exists for the
 available Amazon Appstore version. I was curious so I tried it. The basic
 features seemed to work ok. But since I installed the Google Play Store on
 this Amazon Fire Tablet I'm posting with I find the standard Google Files
 app does just fine...

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#143848

ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) ha scritto:
> ...
>   ## Configurazione del tablet Android
> 
>   Ora passiamo alla parte divertente!
> 
>   1. Scaricate un'app per gestire NFS. Io uso "ES File Explorer"
>      o "AndSMB", ma ce ne sono tante altre.
> 
Bravo! Grazie!

-- 
Qihe

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#143852

Il 26/10/24 17:34, Stefan Ram ha scritto:

>    I'm stoked you dig my message, but these apps are probably just...

I realized that the solution I am looking for is hard to find, if not, 
currently, impossible: NFS directly from Android.
I'm going to try Andronix...

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#143860

Massimo Peca wrote on Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:38:13 +0200 :

> I realized that the solution I am looking for is hard to find, if not, 
> currently, impossible: NFS directly from Android.
> I'm going to try Andronix...

I've been recommending Andronix for years, so I do hope you try it.
 *Andronix* - Linux on Android, by Devriz Technologies
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix>
  <https://github.com/AndronixApp>
  <https://andronix.app/>

Personally I've never used it, but the fact it's free and ad free means you
can try it out without being rooted and let us know if it works for you.

It's my understanding that Andronix sits side by side with Android.
And that Andronix can load and run almost any command line Linux distro.
It's also my understanding that most popular desktops are also supported.

But I've never tried Andronix myself.
So I hope it works for you and that you let us know how it works for you.

PS: I'm well over 80 and still on Usenet too!

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#143863

Andrews <andrews@spam.net> ha scritto:
> 
> It's my understanding that Andronix sits side by side with Android.

It would be nice... But it looks more like an Android app, that
 will run as a virtual machine where you can run any Linux distro.
 And that's not side by side but inside. So I won't be able to
 remove Android (or even Andronix app) by running:
 
sudo rm -rf /
I guess this command will remove only the linux distro installed
 "inside" Andronix.

If so, it's far easier, lighter, efficient to play a video with
 VLC (android app) than playing it (e.g.) behind Andronix app +
 Ubuntu desktop + VLC.deb. Isn't it?

-- 
Qihe

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#143850

Il 26/10/24 15:54, Stefan Ram ha scritto:

> 
>    1. Scaricate un'app per gestire NFS. Io uso "ES File Explorer"
>       o "AndSMB", ma ce ne sono tante altre.

As I wrote, I would like to use NFS and not SMB.

Massimo

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#143861

Stefan Ram wrote on 26 Oct 2024 15:42:34 GMT :

>>>1. Scaricate un'app per gestire NFS. Io uso "ES File Explorer"
>>>   o "AndSMB", ma ce ne sono tante altre.
>>As I wrote, I would like to use NFS and not SMB.
> 
>   I see. The Experts Exchange page doesn't seem to mention SMB,
>   but it does say you can access an NFS host through ES File
>   Explorer. (Just a heads-up though, that page is from 2016,
>   so things could have shifted since then.)

I wish you guys would converse in German instead of in Italian! :)

I just wish to make an observation about Android SMB (which Frank Slootweg
taught me years ago, & being an intelligent aspy, I never forget a fact).

Bear in mind there are smb clients & smb servers.
Also bear in mind that the Windows only allows direct SMB communications
(without NETBIOS) on port 445, yet unrooted Android won't let you use ports
below 1024.

Do you see the problem?

With that in mind, free SMB "clients" on Android I've tested.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.maza.zpush>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghostsq.commander>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sobha.filemanager>

Most SMB clients seem to be part of a file manager, not dedicated apps.

This, for example, is a free SMB "server" for Android.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.serversultimate.packb>

Good luck.

Please let the team know what you find out as we can all learn from you.

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#143872

Hello everyone,
thank you for the support you are giving me.
After various experimentations of what you have recommended, I have 
narrowed down the choices to two options:
- Owlfiles;
- Andronix.

With Owlfiles, after manual configuration, I was easily able to see my 
Linux server NFS disks, however, I cannot see their contents. I left the 
port 445.
These are the screen shots and my Linux server exports configuration file.
https://mega.nz/file/wHN2QYLA#Zf_cv2tNYn1f9zFEL50OV2TXgLFccuMoTFDocRki5YU
https://mega.nz/file/FKc2CDra#RRQwBnt1mZdsgirFaQU0vV4WqsdPgmsbN0ZvVUMu6BM

/media/data01 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
/media/data02 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
/media/data03 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
/media/data04 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
/media/data05 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
/media/data06 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
Why?

Andronix I installed it, but I can't choose the preferred GUI because 
when I press on the choice, nothing happens. I attach the screen shot.
https://mega.nz/file/geVGyTzK#flmDTjvtmpASDSdUm49ksC6tWcN6MkL9PjMtDb8K3xo
Why?

Ciao
Massimo

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#143873

Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> Wrote in message:

> Hello everyone,
> thank you for the support you are giving me.
> After various experimentations of what you have recommended, I have 
> narrowed down the choices to two options:
> - Owlfiles;
> - Andronix.
> 
> With Owlfiles, after manual configuration, I was easily able to see my 
> Linux server NFS disks, however, I cannot see their contents. I left the 
> port 445.
> These are the screen shots and my Linux server exports configuration file.
> https://mega.nz/file/wHN2QYLA#Zf_cv2tNYn1f9zFEL50OV2TXgLFccuMoTFDocRki5YU
> https://mega.nz/file/FKc2CDra#RRQwBnt1mZdsgirFaQU0vV4WqsdPgmsbN0ZvVUMu6BM
> 
> /media/data01 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data02 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data03 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data04 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data05 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data06 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> Why?
> 
> Andronix I installed it, but I can't choose the preferred GUI because 
> when I press on the choice, nothing happens. I attach the screen shot.
> https://mega.nz/file/geVGyTzK#flmDTjvtmpASDSdUm49ksC6tWcN6MkL9PjMtDb8K3xo
> Why?

Owlfiles is the app I mentioned that I have on iOS.

Mega seems to require I login. 
Try something like https://paste.opensuse.org/

Firewall? Permissions?
-- 
Remove numerics from my email address.

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#143911

Massimo Peca <massimo@esatto.com> writes:

> With Owlfiles, after manual configuration, I was easily able to see my
> Linux server NFS disks, however, I cannot see their contents. I left
> the port 445.
> These are the screen shots and my Linux server exports configuration file.
> https://mega.nz/file/wHN2QYLA#Zf_cv2tNYn1f9zFEL50OV2TXgLFccuMoTFDocRki5YU
> https://mega.nz/file/FKc2CDra#RRQwBnt1mZdsgirFaQU0vV4WqsdPgmsbN0ZvVUMu6BM
>
> /media/data01 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data02 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data03 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data04 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data05 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> /media/data06 *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
> Why?

I also quickly tried Owlfiles and NFS, looks like I can see and access
what files I tried. My export options are
rw,no_root_squash,sync,no_subtree_check,insecure

but looking at manuals I'm not sure insecure or no_root_squash are valid
any more so maybe don't make a difference. no_root_squash shouldn't be
relevant anyways here.

Permissions is another question so check those. When I tried to create a
file, it was created with uid and gid 10328 which seems like a random
choice. Worked in shared /tmp since everyone can write there.

I'm a little curious that you said "I left the port 445". But for me the
NFS choice has just name/IP and optional path, no port can be given.

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#143943

Il 30/10/24 08:40, Anssi Saari ha scritto:


> 
> but looking at manuals I'm not sure insecure or no_root_squash are valid
> any more so maybe don't make a difference. no_root_squash shouldn't be
> relevant anyways here.
I assure you that on my two home PCs with Debian 11 and 12, everything 
works fine.

> 
> Permissions is another question so check those. When I tried to create a
> file, it was created with uid and gid 10328 which seems like a random
> choice. Worked in shared /tmp since everyone can write there.

yes, it may be that it is a permissions problem. However, I should know 
with which configuration the “Android” user logs in. How do I identify it?
send.cyberjake.xyz/download/ab188b2f9209dddc/#x1S5wpneLYnBlg4V_d4okw


> 
> I'm a little curious that you said "I left the port 445". But for me the
> NFS choice has just name/IP and optional path, no port can be given.

mi riferivo alla selezione di "Linux". In quel caso chiede anche la 
porta. Se, invece, scelgo "NFS, hai ragione, non chiede la porta.
send.cyberjake.xyz/download/a00ce4cd947425a2/#ka0w_fVhrALDmzjiNwzSLA
send.cyberjake.xyz/download/8f92b69afe85d0b3/#Ghz8EzIhckaT9ljQQgcaOg

Thanks
Massimo

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