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  Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-09 00:39 -0700
    Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-06-09 11:03 +0200
      Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-09 19:27 +0000
        Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-09 14:46 -0700
        Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-10 09:04 +0100
          Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-10 02:00 -0700
          Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-10 16:44 +0000
            Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-11 14:00 -0700
    Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-10 02:07 -0700
    Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-11 17:37 +0200
      Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 20:37 +0000
        Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-15 11:52 +0200
      Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-06-14 22:48 +0200
        Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 21:31 +0000
          Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:40 -0700
            Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-06-14 18:52 -0700
              Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 02:00 +0000
                Re: Would you recommend a good debloater? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-15 11:54 +0200

#141845 — Would you recommend a good debloater?

Hi All,

My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
at all the bloatware that came with it.

I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.
I can not tell them apart.  Would you guys please recommend
a good one that you have/are using and like?

Many thanks,
-T

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#141850

T wrote:

>My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
>at all the bloatware that came with it.
>
>I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.

Rather than debloating just your tablet you can also debloat all devices
in your home by setting up AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi. You will never see
commercials again. AdGuard is also available as an Android app, so you
may also try that, but I don't know how good it is since I use the RPi
method for the whole local network.

-jw-
-- 
And now for something completely different...

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#141875

Joerg Walther wrote on Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:03:06 +0200 :

>>My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
>>at all the bloatware that came with it.
>>
>>I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.
> 
> Rather than debloating just your tablet you can also debloat all devices
> in your home by setting up AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi. You will never see
> commercials again. AdGuard is also available as an Android app, so you
> may also try that, but I don't know how good it is since I use the RPi
> method for the whole local network.

This question is one of the most often asked Android questions, where the
answer is so simple, people don't want to believe how simple it really is.

Probably 1 out of 1,000 people know what I'm saying below... but everyone
who knows anything about Android knows it, so take it simply as advice.

While there are many apps which do debloating, the fact is that you can
uninstall any app from the user partition so you don't need an app.

Since uninstalling any app (even system apps and pre-installed apps) is
trivial on any Android phone (rooting isn't needed), the problem isn't
uninstalling the app - but in choosing which packages to uninstall.

A quick google search for your device should help in that regard.
For example:
 <https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=how+to+debloat+android+phone>

First hit:
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-debloat-adb-the-ultimate-adb-debloating-thread-for-the-s20-u-series.4089089/>

For a specific device, such as for my Samsung Galaxy phone:
 <https://droidwin.com/debloat-remove-bloatware-from-samsung-devices-via-adb/>

Note that you can debloat with adb using local adb without needing a PC:
 <https://www.xda-developers.com/debloat-your-phone-run-adb-shell-commands-no-root-no-pc/>

For those who want "an app to do that", there are many; here's just one.
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/v3-90-debloater-lets-remove-all-that-carrier-bloat-root-not-required.2998294/>

Hope this helps as I know Android debloating and therefore I spent the
energy and effort to help the OP get a correct answer to his question
(even though this question has been asked & answered many times already).

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#141885

On 6/9/24 12:27, Andrew wrote:
> Joerg Walther wrote on Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:03:06 +0200 :
> 
>>> My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
>>> at all the bloatware that came with it.
>>>
>>> I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.
>>
>> Rather than debloating just your tablet you can also debloat all devices
>> in your home by setting up AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi. You will never see
>> commercials again. AdGuard is also available as an Android app, so you
>> may also try that, but I don't know how good it is since I use the RPi
>> method for the whole local network.
> 
> This question is one of the most often asked Android questions, where the
> answer is so simple, people don't want to believe how simple it really is.
> 
> Probably 1 out of 1,000 people know what I'm saying below... but everyone
> who knows anything about Android knows it, so take it simply as advice.
> 
> While there are many apps which do debloating, the fact is that you can
> uninstall any app from the user partition so you don't need an app.
> 
> Since uninstalling any app (even system apps and pre-installed apps) is
> trivial on any Android phone (rooting isn't needed), the problem isn't
> uninstalling the app - but in choosing which packages to uninstall.
> 
> A quick google search for your device should help in that regard.
> For example:
>   <https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=how+to+debloat+android+phone>
> 
> First hit:
>   <https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-debloat-adb-the-ultimate-adb-debloating-thread-for-the-s20-u-series.4089089/>
> 
> For a specific device, such as for my Samsung Galaxy phone:
>   <https://droidwin.com/debloat-remove-bloatware-from-samsung-devices-via-adb/>
> 
> Note that you can debloat with adb using local adb without needing a PC:
>   <https://www.xda-developers.com/debloat-your-phone-run-adb-shell-commands-no-root-no-pc/>
> 
> For those who want "an app to do that", there are many; here's just one.
>   <https://xdaforums.com/t/v3-90-debloater-lets-remove-all-that-carrier-bloat-root-not-required.2998294/>
> 
> Hope this helps as I know Android debloating and therefore I spent the
> energy and effort to help the OP get a correct answer to his question
> (even though this question has been asked & answered many times already).


Thank you!

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#141903

On 09/06/2024 20:27, Andrew wrote:
> Joerg Walther wrote on Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:03:06 +0200 :
> 
>>> My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
>>> at all the bloatware that came with it.
>>>
>>> I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.
>>
>> Rather than debloating just your tablet you can also debloat all devices
>> in your home by setting up AdGuard on a Raspberry Pi. You will never see
>> commercials again. AdGuard is also available as an Android app, so you
>> may also try that, but I don't know how good it is since I use the RPi
>> method for the whole local network.
> 
> This question is one of the most often asked Android questions, where the
> answer is so simple, people don't want to believe how simple it really is.
> 
> Probably 1 out of 1,000 people know what I'm saying below... but everyone
> who knows anything about Android knows it, so take it simply as advice.
> 
> While there are many apps which do debloating, the fact is that you can
> uninstall any app from the user partition so you don't need an app.
> 
> Since uninstalling any app (even system apps and pre-installed apps) is
> trivial on any Android phone (rooting isn't needed), the problem isn't
> uninstalling the app - but in choosing which packages to uninstall.
> 
> A quick google search for your device should help in that regard.
> For example:
>   <https://duckduckgo.com/?hps=1&q=how+to+debloat+android+phone>
> 
> First hit:
>   <https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-debloat-adb-the-ultimate-adb-debloating-thread-for-the-s20-u-series.4089089/>
> 
> For a specific device, such as for my Samsung Galaxy phone:
>   <https://droidwin.com/debloat-remove-bloatware-from-samsung-devices-via-adb/>
> 
> Note that you can debloat with adb using local adb without needing a PC:
>   <https://www.xda-developers.com/debloat-your-phone-run-adb-shell-commands-no-root-no-pc/>
> 
> For those who want "an app to do that", there are many; here's just one.
>   <https://xdaforums.com/t/v3-90-debloater-lets-remove-all-that-carrier-bloat-root-not-required.2998294/>
> 
> Hope this helps as I know Android debloating and therefore I spent the
> energy and effort to help the OP get a correct answer to his question
> (even though this question has been asked & answered many times already).

Have you ever tried anything mentioned here? Looks like it could be 
useful and goes into quite some detail for each make of phone:
<https://technastic.com/?s=bloatware>

-- 
Jeff

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#141905

On 6/10/24 01:04, Jeff Layman wrote:

> Have you ever tried anything mentioned here? Looks like it could be 
> useful and goes into quite some detail for each make of phone:
> <https://technastic.com/?s=bloatware>
> 


I will look.  Thank you!

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#141928

Jeff Layman wrote on Mon, 10 Jun 2024 09:04:50 +0100 :

> Have you ever tried anything mentioned here? Looks like it could be 
> useful and goes into quite some detail for each make of phone:
> <https://technastic.com/?s=bloatware>

I debloat my Android phones within a week of obtaining them and then,
almost weekly if not more often, I slowly debloat what I missed at first.

Mostly I use adb to uninstall everything that I don't want but I admit I
mostly tell that on a case-by-case basis looking at the package name.

Sometimes I look up what the package does; most of the time I don't bother.

It's not difficult to debloat; there's no risk at all since every package
you remove can easily be re-installed if it causes problems by being gone.

Sometimes I miss bloatware though, especially hidden bloat, but luckily my
Muntashirakon App Manager tells me with a tag for apps that are bloatware.

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#141964

On 6/10/24 09:44, Andrew wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote on Mon, 10 Jun 2024 09:04:50 +0100 :
> 
>> Have you ever tried anything mentioned here? Looks like it could be
>> useful and goes into quite some detail for each make of phone:
>> <https://technastic.com/?s=bloatware>
> 
> I debloat my Android phones within a week of obtaining them and then,
> almost weekly if not more often, I slowly debloat what I missed at first.
> 
> Mostly I use adb to uninstall everything that I don't want but I admit I
> mostly tell that on a case-by-case basis looking at the package name.
> 
> Sometimes I look up what the package does; most of the time I don't bother.
> 
> It's not difficult to debloat; there's no risk at all since every package
> you remove can easily be re-installed if it causes problems by being gone.
> 
> Sometimes I miss bloatware though, especially hidden bloat, but luckily my
> Muntashirakon App Manager tells me with a tag for apps that are bloatware.


Thank you!

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#141906

On 6/9/24 00:39, T wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
> at all the bloatware that came with it.
> 
> I have googled it and there are a lot of debloaters for Android.
> I can not tell them apart.  Would you guys please recommend
> a good one that you have/are using and like?
> 
> Many thanks,
> -T


Anything that runs on the Android?

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#141949

T, 2024-06-09 09:39:

> Hi All,
> 
> My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
> at all the bloatware that came with it.

Then just disable it. Go to the list of all apps in the setings, open
the app details of the unwanted bloat apps and disable it. Usually there
not that many bloat apps to be disabled - usually just apps trying to
sell you subscriptions and paid services.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#142051

Arno Welzel wrote on Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:37:33 +0200 :

> Then just disable it. Go to the list of all apps in the setings, open
> the app details of the unwanted bloat apps and disable it. Usually there
> not that many bloat apps to be disabled - usually just apps trying to
> sell you subscriptions and paid services.

While disabling works without adb, with adb you can uninstall anything.

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#142073

Andrew, 2024-06-14 22:37:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:37:33 +0200 :
> 
>> Then just disable it. Go to the list of all apps in the setings, open
>> the app details of the unwanted bloat apps and disable it. Usually there
>> not that many bloat apps to be disabled - usually just apps trying to
>> sell you subscriptions and paid services.
> 
> While disabling works without adb, with adb you can uninstall anything.

No - if an app can only be disabled and not uninstalled, then ADB can
also just disable it.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#142052

On 2024-06-11 17:37, Arno Welzel wrote:
> T, 2024-06-09 09:39:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My wife bought a new Android tablet.  She is really pissed
>> at all the bloatware that came with it.
> 
> Then just disable it. Go to the list of all apps in the setings, open
> the app details of the unwanted bloat apps and disable it. Usually there
> not that many bloat apps to be disabled - usually just apps trying to
> sell you subscriptions and paid services.

I would be nice a tool that checks the list of apps installed, gives a 
description for each one (on single tap), then offers to delete or 
inhibit it.

Possibly produce a filtered list of candidates with some criteria. Like 
not showing system apps known to be needed.

And write the deleted list to a file, so that the operation can be 
repeated automatically on request. With some phones I noticed that some 
periodical system update restored tools I did not want.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#142053

Carlos E.R. wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 22:48:40 +0200 :

> I would be nice a tool that checks the list of apps installed, gives a 
> description for each one (on single tap), then offers to delete or 
> inhibit it.

There's a reason I've said the Muntashirak App Manager is the best.

I think Muntashirakon App Manager debloater does everything you ask for.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/XqH5rsSX/bloat01.jpg> 

> Possibly produce a filtered list of candidates with some criteria. Like 
> not showing system apps known to be needed.

The Muntashirakon App Manager has filters galore, system apps included.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/nzzj6NPr/bloat02.jpg>
 
> And write the deleted list to a file, so that the operation can be 
> repeated automatically on request. With some phones I noticed that some 
> periodical system update restored tools I did not want.

The Muntashirakon App Manager shows you all the apps you uninstalled.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/85VX4BKZ/bloat03.jpg>

And, as shown above, it gives you the option to re-install if you like.

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#142061

On 6/14/24 14:31, Andrew wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 22:48:40 +0200 :
> 
>> I would be nice a tool that checks the list of apps installed, gives a
>> description for each one (on single tap), then offers to delete or
>> inhibit it.
> 
> There's a reason I've said the Muntashirak App Manager is the best.
> 
> I think Muntashirakon App Manager debloater does everything you ask for.
>   <https://i.postimg.cc/XqH5rsSX/bloat01.jpg>
> 
>> Possibly produce a filtered list of candidates with some criteria. Like
>> not showing system apps known to be needed.
> 
> The Muntashirakon App Manager has filters galore, system apps included.
>   <https://i.postimg.cc/nzzj6NPr/bloat02.jpg>
>   
>> And write the deleted list to a file, so that the operation can be
>> repeated automatically on request. With some phones I noticed that some
>> periodical system update restored tools I did not want.
> 
> The Muntashirakon App Manager shows you all the apps you uninstalled.
>   <https://i.postimg.cc/85VX4BKZ/bloat03.jpg>
> 
> And, as shown above, it gives you the option to re-install if you like.


Hi Carlos,

   Muntashirakon App Manager look exactly what OI was looking
for!  Thank you!

-T

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#142064

On 6/14/24 18:40, T wrote:
> Muntashirakon App Manager

Is this it?

https://muntashirakon.github.io/AppManager/en/

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#142065

T wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:52:24 -0700 :

> Is this it?
> 
> https://muntashirakon.github.io/AppManager/en/

That's the documentation for the app so you're almost there.

The app APK is on F-Droid and GitHub.

Here's a recent thread about it.
 *Muntashirakon App Manager is, IMHO, by far, the best app manager on Android*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=53149&group=comp.mobile.android#53149>

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#142075

Andrew, 2024-06-15 04:00:

> T wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:52:24 -0700 :
> 
>> Is this it?
>>
>> https://muntashirakon.github.io/AppManager/en/
> 
> That's the documentation for the app so you're almost there.
> 
> The app APK is on F-Droid and GitHub.

And the links can be found in the documentation:

F-Droid:
<https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager/>

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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