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  Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-29 07:54 -0700
    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 16:02 +0100
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-29 19:01 +0200
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 18:08 +0100
          Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-29 22:33 +0200
            Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-05-30 21:16 +0200
              Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-30 20:20 +0100
                Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-05-30 21:31 +0200
                  Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-31 15:15 +0000
                    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-06-03 17:38 +0200
                  Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-06-01 07:31 -0700
                Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-05-31 11:38 -0400
                  Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-31 16:50 +0100
                    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-05-31 21:56 -0400
                  Re: Google's "Find My Device Network" AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-05-31 16:42 +0000
                    Re: Google's "Find My Device Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-31 17:46 +0100
                      Re: Google's "Find My Device Network" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-05-31 21:55 -0400
                  Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-31 18:59 +0000
                    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-05-31 21:55 -0400
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-29 18:01 +0000
    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no> - 2024-05-29 18:23 +0200
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-29 18:32 +0200
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-29 19:00 +0200
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-29 18:59 +0200
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 18:00 +0100
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-29 22:34 +0200
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-30 07:06 -0700
          Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-30 15:48 +0000
            Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-30 17:34 +0000
          Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-30 19:43 +0100
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-05-30 21:13 +0200
    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-29 17:55 +0000
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 20:30 +0000
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 21:46 +0100
          Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 21:03 +0000
            Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 22:19 +0100
              Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 21:51 +0000
                Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-30 00:00 +0100
                  Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2024-05-30 17:12 +0100
                    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-30 19:49 +0100
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-05-30 07:02 -0700
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-30 19:39 +0100
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-05-30 21:12 +0200
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-05-30 21:28 +0200
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-06-01 19:10 +0000
    Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 19:47 +0000
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 20:22 +0000
      Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 21:37 +0100
        Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 20:51 +0000
          Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 22:13 +0100
            Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-29 21:23 +0000
              Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-29 22:28 +0100
            Re: Google's "Find My Debvice Network" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 14:08 +0100

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#141554 — Google's "Find My Debvice Network"

I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this here. I've been 
googling (!) for a way to opt out of using my bandwidth and my 
battery to be part of this network.

Everything I could find told me to make settings changes in the Find 
My Device app, but I don't have that app. Does that mean I'm not part 
of the network, or do I need to install an app I don't want just to 
opt out of a network I don't want?

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#141555

Stan Brown wrote:

> I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this here. I've been
> googling (!) for a way to opt out of using my bandwidth and my
> battery to be part of this network.

Is it actually live yet?

> Everything I could find told me to make settings changes in the Find
> My Device app, but I don't have that app. Does that mean I'm not part
> of the network, or do I need to install an app I don't want just to
> opt out of a network I don't want?

I've had the Find My Device app installed for years (before the recent 
capabilities)

The settings within the app only control whether my device(s) can be 
found, not whether they participate in finding anyone else's devices.

Turn off bluetooth?

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#141567

Am 29.05.24 um 17:02 schrieb Andy Burns:
> Stan Brown wrote:
> 
>> I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this here. I've been
>> googling (!) for a way to opt out of using my bandwidth and my
>> battery to be part of this network.
> 
> Is it actually live yet?

At least since 2020.

If you speak a little bit of German than you can see how easy it is to
turn it on and to turn it off again:

https://www.heise.de/tipps-tricks/Google-Find-my-Device-so-funktioniert-s-6202798.html

or open settings. Go to search function and enter "find my" and enter.
There you are! Deactivate it!


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#141568

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> schrieb Andy Burns:
> 
>> Is it actually live yet?
> 
> At least since 2020.

That's old news, but there's a new finder, only been around (even in 
beta) a month or so ...

<https://9to5google.com/guides/find-my-device>

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#141583

Am 29.05.24 um 19:08 schrieb Andy Burns:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>> schrieb Andy Burns:
>>
>>> Is it actually live yet?
>>
>> At least since 2020.
> 
> That's old news, but there's a new finder, only been around (even in
> beta) a month or so ...
> 
> <https://9to5google.com/guides/find-my-device>

Opting out of the Find My Device network

Even with Google’s security measures in place and encrypted data 
transfers between devices, you still may wish to opt out of the network. 
The update brought along options to allow you to do that in a matter of 
several steps.

     On your Android device, open the Find My Device app.
     Tap your profile picture.
     Hit FInd My Device settings.
     Tap Find your offline devices.
     Choose what level of access the app has.

To get there works as said in my first posting.


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#141643

On Wed, 29 May 2024 22:33:14 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>    On your Android device, open the Find My Device app.

There's no such app on my Pixel 6. Apparently, I can install it, but the
function is already active (in my settings) and I don't see the point.
What am I going to do with the app? Find my own device?

-- 
s|b

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#141644

s|b wrote:

> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>> open the Find My Device app.
> 
> There's no such app on my Pixel 6. Apparently, I can install it, but the
> function is already active (in my settings) and I don't see the point.
> What am I going to do with the app? Find my own device?

That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).

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#141646

On Thu, 30 May 2024 20:20:14 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
> I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
> it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).

I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here. I don't have
the app on my phone, because I can already use 'Find my phone/device'
through a browser. I simply activated it in my settings.

-- 
s|b

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#141658

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 20:20:14 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> > That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
> > I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
> > it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).
> 
> I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here. I don't have
> the app on my phone, because I can already use 'Find my phone/device'
> through a browser. I simply activated it in my settings.

  It's an alternative for the web-browser. In order to find a device,
you need 1) *another* device and 2) an 'app' on that device. The 'app'
is either a general purpose web-browser or the dedicated 'Find My
Device' app.

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#141761

On 31 May 2024 15:15:39 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   It's an alternative for the web-browser. In order to find a device,
> you need 1) *another* device and 2) an 'app' on that device. The 'app'
> is either a general purpose web-browser or the dedicated 'Find My
> Device' app.

Tnx for explaining.

-- 
s|b

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#141683

On Thu, 30 May 2024 21:31:56 +0200, s|b wrote:
>  I don't have
> the app on my phone, because I can already use 'Find my phone/device'
> through a browser. I simply activated it in my settings.

Same here. I'm always reluctant to clutter up my hone 
with app I don't actually need, and the Find My Device 
in my PC's browser makes the phone emit a sound.

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         
https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#141659

 In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 30 May 2024 20:20:14 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>s|b wrote:
>
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote: 
>> 
>>> open the Find My Device app.
>> 
>> There's no such app on my Pixel 6. Apparently, I can install it, but the
>> function is already active (in my settings) and I don't see the point.
>> What am I going to do with the app? Find my own device?
>
>That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
>I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
>it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).
>
How precise is it. will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I
don't know where?

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#141660

micky wrote:

> How precise is it. will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I
> don't know where?

It will be as accurate as whatever geolocation type you allow, for GPS 
it'll probably tell which quarter of your house it's in, for wifi it 
might nly distinguish between your house and your neighbour's, for cell 
site it might only know which road it's on.

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#141672

In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 31 May 2024 16:50:46 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>> How precise is it. will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I
>> don't know where?
>
>It will be as accurate as whatever geolocation type you allow, for GPS 
>it'll probably tell which quarter of your house it's in, for wifi it 
>might nly distinguish between your house and your neighbour's, for cell 
>site it might only know which road it's on.

Well, I know what road my house is on, so that won't help mch.  GPS is
always on so that might help a lot.   

Or maybe I should take Super Beta Mind Speeder.  ;-) 

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#141662 — Re: Google's "Find My Device Network"

On 5/31/24 8:38 AM, micky wrote:

>How precise is it [FMDN]. will it help
>me if it's somewhere in my house but I
>don't know where?

I just use the other phone that lives
in my house to call mine and listen for
the ring. No second phone? Maybe Google
Voice from the laptop...

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#141663 — Re: Google's "Find My Device Network"

AJL wrote:

> micky wrote:
> 
>> will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I don't know
>> where?
> 
> I just use the other phone that lives
> in my house to call mine and listen for
> the ring. No second phone? Maybe Google
> Voice from the laptop...

OK, so long as the battery hasn't subsequently gone flat, the findmy 
option will at least tell you where it was ...

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#141671 — Re: Google's "Find My Device Network"

In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 31 May 2024 17:46:01 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>
>AJL wrote:
>
>> micky wrote:
>> 
>>> will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I don't know
>>> where?
>> 
>> I just use the other phone that lives
>> in my house to call mine and listen for
>> the ring. No second phone? Maybe Google
>> Voice from the laptop...

I do have a home phone, and I found the phone once your way.  It was my
pants pockets on the floor of the bathroom.  But I'd be happy with
another method too. 

>OK, so long as the battery hasn't subsequently gone flat, the findmy 
>option will at least tell you where it was ...

Aha, very good. 

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#141666

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>  In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 30 May 2024 20:20:14 +0100, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> 
> >s|b wrote:
> >
> >> Jörg Lorenz wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> open the Find My Device app.
> >> 
> >> There's no such app on my Pixel 6. Apparently, I can install it, but the
> >> function is already active (in my settings) and I don't see the point.
> >> What am I going to do with the app? Find my own device?
> >
> >That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
> >I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
> >it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).
> >
> How precise is it. will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I
> don't know where?

  If it's in your house, as AJL said, just call it from another phone.

  If you don't have another phone, just use

'Find your phone'
<https://myaccount.google.com/find-your-phone>

on any device.

  That will already play a notification sound (twice), but if you miss
that, just click on 'Play sound' and it will sound your ringtone on your
'lost' device ('device, not 'phone', because it also works for tablets).

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#141670

In comp.mobile.android, on 31 May 2024 18:59:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>  In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 30 May 2024 20:20:14 +0100, Andy Burns
>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> >s|b wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jörg Lorenz wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> open the Find My Device app.
>> >> 
>> >> There's no such app on my Pixel 6. Apparently, I can install it, but the
>> >> function is already active (in my settings) and I don't see the point.
>> >> What am I going to do with the app? Find my own device?
>> >
>> >That's been the only available functionality for the past few years, and 
>> >I've found it helpful once or twice, it can't actually do any "finding", 
>> >it can tell you where the device is (or last was before battery gave up).
>> >
>> How precise is it. will it help me if it's somewhere in my house but I
>> don't know where?
>
>  If it's in your house, as AJL said, just call it from another phone.
>
>  If you don't have another phone, just use
>
>'Find your phone'
><https://myaccount.google.com/find-your-phone>
>
>on any device.
>
>  That will already play a notification sound (twice), but if you miss
>that, just click on 'Play sound' and it will sound your ringtone on your
>'lost' device ('device, not 'phone', because it also works for tablets).

Thanks!

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#141573

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 29.05.24 um 17:02 schrieb Andy Burns:
> > Stan Brown wrote:
> > 
> >> I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this here. I've been
> >> googling (!) for a way to opt out of using my bandwidth and my
> >> battery to be part of this network.
> > 
> > Is it actually live yet?
> 
> At least since 2020.
> 
> If you speak a little bit of German than you can see how easy it is to
> turn it on and to turn it off again:
> 
> https://www.heise.de/tipps-tricks/Google-Find-my-Device-so-funktioniert-s-6202798.html
> 
> or open settings. Go to search function and enter "find my" and enter.
> There you are! Deactivate it!

Jörg,

  As the subject says, the is about the Find My Device *network*, which
is a *new* feature, allowing "to locate your devices even if they're
offline".

'Finding your offline devices'
<https://support.google.com/android/answer/14796936?&p=find_offline_devices&rd=1#finding_offline_devices>

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