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  Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2024-05-05 14:47 -0400
    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-05 21:23 +0200
      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Oliver <ollie@invalid.net> - 2024-05-05 13:42 -0600
      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-05 17:06 -0400
        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-05 19:04 -0500
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2024-05-05 21:49 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2024-05-05 22:30 -0400
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-06 02:56 +0000
    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-05 22:20 +0200
      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-05 17:04 -0400
        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 09:04 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-06 08:16 +0000
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-06 10:45 -0700
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 10:54 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 18:55 +0200
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 13:33 -0400
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 21:38 +0200
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 08:53 +0200
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 10:12 +0200
                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 17:28 +0200
                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 19:07 +0200
                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 11:49 +0200
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 12:31 +0200
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-08 12:09 -0400
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-08 16:22 +0000
                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-09 23:24 +0000
                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-09 17:28 -0700
                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-05-10 19:16 +0200
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2024-05-10 19:24 +0200
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-05-10 13:51 -0400
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-10 18:30 +0000
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Peter Piper <peterpiper@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-10 19:01 +0000
                                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-10 20:54 +0000
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-10 22:40 +0200
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-10 11:34 -0700
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-10 13:47 -0700
      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:04 +0200
        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-06 10:23 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 11:41 +0100
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-08 12:36 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 10:59 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-06 18:24 +0000
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-06 13:49 -0700
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 17:04 -0400
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 09:05 +0200
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 17:33 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-06 16:28 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 17:02 -0400
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-06 21:44 -0400
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-10 01:39 +0000
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 09:08 +0200
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-07 08:27 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-08 12:43 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 08:53 +0200
        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 11:51 +0200
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 11:02 -0400
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-06 16:24 +0000
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 19:13 +0200
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 13:37 -0400
                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 22:08 +0200
                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 16:56 -0400
                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 09:17 +0200
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-07 08:29 -0400
                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-10 01:38 +0000
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-06 23:49 +0000
                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 09:40 +0200
                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-07 15:18 +0000
                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 18:42 +0200
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 18:35 +0000
                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-07 22:11 +0200
                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 13:53 +0000
                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 17:36 +0200
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-08 16:17 +0000
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 17:37 +0000
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:26 +0200
                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-08 09:05 -0700
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-08 09:39 -0700
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-08 20:16 +0100
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-08 15:31 -0400
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-08 12:57 -0400
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-08 17:23 +0000
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-08 12:10 -0700
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-05-08 16:38 -0500
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-08 16:21 -0700
                                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-09 14:01 +0200
                                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-09 08:57 -0700
                                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 09:13 -0700
                                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-09 16:27 +0000
                                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-09 09:32 -0700
                                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 11:07 -0700
                                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-09 11:24 -0700
                                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 17:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-09 17:43 -0700
                                                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 18:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-10 09:58 -0700
                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-08 02:08 +0000
                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-10 21:34 +0000
                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-10 14:55 -0700
                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-10 22:21 +0000
                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-11 04:08 +0000
                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-11 04:38 +0000
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-11 13:58 +0000
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-11 15:51 +0000
                                      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-11 16:59 +0000
                                        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-11 19:39 +0000
                                          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-11 20:00 +0000
                                            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-11 21:21 +0000
                                              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-05-11 22:10 +0000
                                                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) - 2024-05-24 17:35 +0000
                                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-11 17:43 +0200
                                    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-05-11 15:53 +0000
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 19:03 +0200
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 13:35 -0400
                Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 22:10 +0200
                  Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-05-06 16:59 -0400
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 16:19 +0100
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2024-05-06 19:10 +0200
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-06 10:50 -0700
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-06 10:49 -0700
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 09:13 +0200
    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2024-05-06 02:09 -0400
      Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 12:10 +0100
        Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2024-05-06 07:56 -0400
          Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 15:06 +0100
            Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2024-05-06 14:56 -0400
              Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-07 07:02 +0000
    Re: Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 11:34 +0100

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#140838 — Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo

Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef-8533-c557f743cc78.png

Says so here:

From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo

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#140839

On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
> Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef-8533-c557f743cc78.png
> 
> Says so here:
> 
> From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo

And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
Completely OT here.

-- 
"Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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#140840

On Sun, 5 May 2024 21:23:41 +0200, J�rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote 

> And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?

Where are most digital photos taken from?
Maybe a phone or a webcam perhaps?

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#140843

On 2024-05-05 15:23, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
>> Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef-8533-c557f743cc78.png
>>
>> Says so here:
>>
>>  From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo
> 
> And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
> Completely OT here.


Interesting nonetheless and some connection to smart phones (they have 
cameras, after all - indeed more people use the camera than the "phone").

Please note: We don't need you as net cop Jörg.


-- 
“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
  nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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#140846

Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-05-05 15:23, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
>>> Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
>>> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef-8533-c557f743cc78.png 
>>>
>>>
>>> Says so here:
>>>
>>>  From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo
>>
>> And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
>> Completely OT here.
> 
> 
> Interesting nonetheless and some connection to smart phones (they have 
> cameras, after all - indeed more people use the camera than the "phone").
> 
> Please note: We don't need you as net cop Jörg.
> 

Don't worry. I don't think he has arrest power, but he *is* the moderator 
here, so we should show him the due respect.

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#140848

On May 5, 2024, Hank Rogers wrote
(in article <v196qb$24t86$1@dont-email.me>):

> Alan Browne wrote:
> > On 2024-05-05 15:23, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > > On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
> > > > Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
> > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef-
> > > > 8533-c557f743cc78.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Says so here:
> > > >
> > > > From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
> > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo
> > >
> > > And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
> > > Completely OT here.
> >
> >
> > Interesting nonetheless and some connection to smart phones (they have
> > cameras, after all - indeed more people use the camera than the "phone").
> >
> > Please note: We don't need you as net cop Jörg.
>
> Don't worry. I don't think he has arrest power, but he *is* the moderator
> here,

No, he isn’t.
> so we should show him the due respect.

I show him all the respect that a trolling, sliming, stalking, serial 
homosexual sexual harasser deserves.

Hey, David, you arsenugget, how goes your attempt to ‘report’ me to 
Supernews?

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#140849

On May 5, 2024, WolfFan wrote
(in article<0001HW.2BE86E980020D285700006E6738F@news.supernews.com>):

> On May 5, 2024, Hank Rogers wrote
> (in article <v196qb$24t86$1@dont-email.me>):
>
> > Alan Browne wrote:
> > > On 2024-05-05 15:23, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > > > On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
> > > > > Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
> > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef
> > > > > -
> > > > > 8533-c557f743cc78.png
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Says so here:
> > > > >
> > > > > From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
> > > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo
> > > >
> > > > And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
> > > > Completely OT here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting nonetheless and some connection to smart phones (they have
> > > cameras, after all - indeed more people use the camera than the "phone").
> > >
> > > Please note: We don't need you as net cop Jörg.
> >
> > Don't worry. I don't think he has arrest power, but he *is* the moderator
> > here,
>
> No, he isn’t.
> > so we should show him the due respect.
>
> I show him all the respect that a trolling, sliming, stalking, serial
> homosexual sexual harasser deserves.
>
> Hey, David, you arsenugget, how goes your attempt to ‘report’ me to
> Supernews?

Oops. it’s the other twit, Jorg, not the supertwit David. Jorg’s bad. 
He’s not David Brooks bad. Ignore that post, bad aim.

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#140850

On 2024-05-06, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On May 5, 2024, WolfFan wrote
> (in article<0001HW.2BE86E980020D285700006E6738F@news.supernews.com>):
>
>> On May 5, 2024, Hank Rogers wrote
>> (in article <v196qb$24t86$1@dont-email.me>):
>>
>> > Alan Browne wrote:
>> > > On 2024-05-05 15:23, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> > > > On 05.05.24 20:47, Mickey D wrote:
>> > > > > Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
>> > > > > https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/07f9/live/65b1da70-07be-11ef
>> > > > > -
>> > > > > 8533-c557f743cc78.png
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Says so here:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From teenage cyber-thug to Europe’s most wanted
>> > > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyxe9g4zlgpo
>> > > >
>> > > > And this bizarre story has exactly what to do with iOS or Android?
>> > > > Completely OT here.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Interesting nonetheless and some connection to smart phones (they have
>> > > cameras, after all - indeed more people use the camera than the "phone").
>> > >
>> > > Please note: We don't need you as net cop Jörg.
>> >
>> > Don't worry. I don't think he has arrest power, but he *is* the moderator
>> > here,
>>
>> No, he isn’t.
>> > so we should show him the due respect.
>>
>> I show him all the respect that a trolling, sliming, stalking, serial
>> homosexual sexual harasser deserves.
>>
>> Hey, David, you arsenugget, how goes your attempt to ‘report’ me to
>> Supernews?
>
> Oops. it’s the other twit, Jorg, not the supertwit David. Jorg’s bad. 
> He’s not David Brooks bad. Ignore that post, bad aim.

I mean both are jackasses and neither one is a moderator on Usenet. So
you weren't too far off the mark. 😉

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#140841

Mickey,

> Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.

And thats just one of the more complex methods there are.

You touch surfaces almost every day without even realizing it - hey, that is 
what hands and fingers are for, right ? - effectivily broadcasting that 
feature of yourself to everyone around you.

Same goes for "faceprints".  Even easier, as your faceprint can be "taken" 
from literally tens of meters away.

To me whomever thought of using finger and faceprints for locks wasn't very 
bright.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#140842

On 2024-05-05 16:20, R.Wieser wrote:
> Mickey,
> 
>> Be careful - they can lift a fingerprint off a digital photo.
> 
> And thats just one of the more complex methods there are.
> 
> You touch surfaces almost every day without even realizing it - hey, that is
> what hands and fingers are for, right ? - effectivily broadcasting that
> feature of yourself to everyone around you.
> 
> Same goes for "faceprints".  Even easier, as your faceprint can be "taken"
> from literally tens of meters away.
> 
> To me whomever thought of using finger and faceprints for locks wasn't very
> bright.

Yet trying to unlock an iPhone with its owner's photo will not work and 
you have to go through a lot of contortions if you happen to have their 
fingerprint.

-- 
“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
  nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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#140853

Alan,

> Yet trying to unlock an iPhone with its owner's photo will not work

They said the same about fingerprints.  Yet, here we are ...

The point is not about how easy it (now!) is to reproduce something like 
that, but that anyone can "take" from you what's supposed to be only yours.

> and you have to go through a lot of contortions if you happen to have 
> their fingerprint.

As long as you don't need the owner of said fingerprints to be present, who 
cares ?

And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking" 
fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are fooled.

Yes, yes.  IPhone fingerprint locks are superior and noone can bypass them. 
Go pull my other finger.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#140859

R.Wieser wrote on Mon, 6 May 2024 09:04:57 +0200 :

>> Yet trying to unlock an iPhone with its owner's photo will not work
> 
> They said the same about fingerprints.  Yet, here we are ...
> 
> The point is not about how easy it (now!) is to reproduce something like 
> that, but that anyone can "take" from you what's supposed to be only yours.
> 
>> and you have to go through a lot of contortions if you happen to have 
>> their fingerprint.
> 
> As long as you don't need the owner of said fingerprints to be present, who 
> cares ?
> 
> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking" 
> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are fooled.
> 
> Yes, yes.  IPhone fingerprint locks are superior and noone can bypass them. 
> Go pull my other finger.

Fingerprint biometric unlocks on most phones are only a marketing gimmick.

Mainly you'll see the Apple religious nutjob zealots defending its use.

That's because Apple zealots always believe everything Apple tells them to.
Apple religious nutjob zealots have no capacity to think on their own.

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#140884

On 2024-05-06 01:16, Andrew wrote:
> R.Wieser wrote on Mon, 6 May 2024 09:04:57 +0200 :
> 
>>> Yet trying to unlock an iPhone with its owner's photo will not work
>>
>> They said the same about fingerprints.  Yet, here we are ...
>>
>> The point is not about how easy it (now!) is to reproduce something like
>> that, but that anyone can "take" from you what's supposed to be only yours.
>>
>>> and you have to go through a lot of contortions if you happen to have
>>> their fingerprint.
>>
>> As long as you don't need the owner of said fingerprints to be present, who
>> cares ?
>>
>> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking"
>> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are fooled.
>>
>> Yes, yes.  IPhone fingerprint locks are superior and noone can bypass them.
>> Go pull my other finger.
> 
> Fingerprint biometric unlocks on most phones are only a marketing gimmick.
> 
> Mainly you'll see the Apple religious nutjob zealots defending its use.
> 
> That's because Apple zealots always believe everything Apple tells them to.
> Apple religious nutjob zealots have no capacity to think on their own.

I'm not trying to prevent the CIA from unlocking my phone, Arlen.

Just the dick who steals it.

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#140871

On 2024-05-06 03:04, R.Wieser wrote:

> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking"
> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are fooled.

Easy when presented as a YT video.  Not many people will actually:

- lift the print from something
- make the 'fake' print
- get access to the physical phone or other device
- get in

-- 
“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
  nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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#140878

Alan,

>> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking"
>> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are 
>> fooled.
>
> Easy when presented as a YT video.

Yes, its always looks easy when its done by someone who knows he's doing. 
On a YT video or IRL.

> Not many people will actually:
>
> - lift the print from something
> - make the 'fake' print
> - get access to the physical phone or other device
> - get in

Not many people wil break into houses.  Yet, you have a lock on your outside 
doors.  Your point ?

But now you have acknowledged its possible, all we would be discussing about 
is how easy/hard it would be.  Thats a large step forward, padawan. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#140881

On 2024-05-06 12:55, R.Wieser wrote:
> Alan,
> 
>>> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking"
>>> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are
>>> fooled.
>>
>> Easy when presented as a YT video.
> 
> Yes, its always looks easy when its done by someone who knows he's doing.
> On a YT video or IRL.
> 
>> Not many people will actually:
>>
>> - lift the print from something
>> - make the 'fake' print
>> - get access to the physical phone or other device
>> - get in
> 
> Not many people wil break into houses.  Yet, you have a lock on your outside
> doors.  Your point ?

B&E is trivial compared to the fingerprint hack.

> 
> But now you have acknowledged its possible, all we would be discussing about
> is how easy/hard it would be.  Thats a large step forward, padawan. :-)

Get over yourself.  You're nobody's teacher.


-- 
“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
  nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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#140892

Alan,

> B&E is trivial compared to the fingerprint hack.

That fully depends on the locks.

>> But now you have acknowledged its possible, all we would be discussing 
>> about is how easy/hard it would be.  Thats a large step forward, padawan. 
>> :-)
>
> Get over yourself.  You're nobody's teacher.

I already did.

regards,
Rudy Wieser 

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#140906

R.Wieser, 2024-05-06 18:55:

> Alan,
> 
>>> And do yourself a favour and look up some YouTube stuff about "hacking"
>>> fingerprint locks.  You might be surprised how easy some of them are 
>>> fooled.
>>
>> Easy when presented as a YT video.
> 
> Yes, its always looks easy when its done by someone who knows he's doing. 
> On a YT video or IRL.
> 
>> Not many people will actually:
>>
>> - lift the print from something
>> - make the 'fake' print
>> - get access to the physical phone or other device
>> - get in
> 
> Not many people wil break into houses.  Yet, you have a lock on your outside 
> doors.  Your point ?

That's the reason why banks have safes and do not only rely on the
security of simple door locks.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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#140916

Arno,

>> Not many people wil break into houses.  Yet, you have a lock on
>> your outside doors.  Your point ?
>
> That's the reason why banks have safes and do not only rely on
> the security of simple door locks.

Not the point I tried to make.


But if you want to talk about that, besides the problem that most banks had 
their front doors wide open - how else could they let customers in - you're 
now looking about how complex a lock must be* before it stop someone from 
(easily!) entering.

* assuming they will actually try to open (fool/break) the lock, and not 
just find an easier point of entry.

Did I already mention "the lockpicking lawyer" on YouTube ?     Its
sometimes laughable to see how easy a, on first sight sturdy, lock can be
defeated.

>> Yes, in Android using *images* of a face to unlock a phone is
>> indeed not a good idea.
>
> Its a *very good* idea.  It should *not ever* happen though. :-)

If something should not ever happen, it is not a good idea.

You misunderstood : Its a very good idea to *try*.  If it works you know 
that it failed its primary duty. :-)

Too many people build stuff that does {this} when you do {that} - but forget 
to check if {this} cannot also be gotten by doing {something else}.

I remember a gate which needed a key to open it - but you could also reach 
thru the gate to get to the handle on the other side, and open it that way.

> I know the Lockpicking Lawyer quite well.

In that case I withdraw my above suggestion in that direction. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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#140922

R.Wieser, 2024-05-07 10:12:

[...]
>>> Yes, in Android using *images* of a face to unlock a phone is
>>> indeed not a good idea.
[...]
> You misunderstood : Its a very good idea to *try*.  If it works you know 
> that it failed its primary duty. :-)

Ok, that makes more sense.

> Too many people build stuff that does {this} when you do {that} - but forget 
> to check if {this} cannot also be gotten by doing {something else}.

Of course. And this is the reason why unlocking a phone just providing a
picture of the owner is not possible with a Google Pixel 6a. Getting a
picture of a persons face is much easier than getting the fingerprints
and replicating them in a way that the fingerprint sensor will accept them.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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