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OT: Key duplication

Started byThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
First post2021-01-13 10:54 -0800
Last post2021-01-20 07:19 -0500
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  OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 10:54 -0800
    Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-13 11:09 -0800
      Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:08 -0800
        Re: OT: Key duplication nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-13 15:19 -0500
          Re: OT: Key duplication Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 13:40 +0000
            Re: OT: Key duplication Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-14 15:43 +0000
            Re: OT: Key duplication nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-14 10:59 -0500
        Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-13 22:58 +0100
          Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 15:56 -0800
            Re: OT: Key duplication John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 07:33 +0700
              Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 21:27 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-13 23:28 -0700
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:07 -0800
                  Re: OT: Key duplication John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 15:58 +0700
                    Re: OT: Key duplication AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-15 09:34 -0700
                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-15 15:30 +0100
                    Re: OT: Key duplication nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-15 18:13 -0500
                    Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 18:47 -0800
                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-16 04:17 +0100
                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 09:14 -0800
                          Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-17 02:31 +0100
                            Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 22:08 -0800
                              Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-18 23:08 +0100
                                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 14:22 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-19 13:50 +0100
                                    Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 10:56 -0800
                                      Re: OT: Key duplication AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-19 12:34 -0700
                                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-19 22:35 +0100
                                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 15:55 -0800
                                          Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 01:42 +0100
                                            Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 19:54 -0800
                                              Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 21:02 -0800
                                                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-20 08:38 -0700
                                                  Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 10:01 -0800
                                                    Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-20 12:37 -0700
                                                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 23:14 +0100
                                                    Re: OT: Key duplication Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-20 23:34 +0000
                                                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 14:56 +0100
                                                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 09:59 -0800
                                                          Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 22:09 +0100
                                                            Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 14:06 -0800
                                                              Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:08 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 19:35 -0800
                                                                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 12:45 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 09:37 -0800
                                                                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:21 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 19:59 -0800
                                                                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 19:48 -0800
                                                                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:31 -0700
                                                            Re: OT: Key duplication Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-21 22:22 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:16 +0100
                                                              Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:42 -0700
                                                            Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 15:16 -0800
                                                              Re: OT: Key duplication John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:46 +0700
                                                                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:25 +0100
                                                    Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 19:49 -0800
                                                      Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 21:01 -0800
                                                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 22:47 -0800
                                                          Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 05:16 -0800
                                                            Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 09:55 -0800
                                                              Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 20:05 -0800
                                                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 14:49 +0100
                                                        Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 06:46 -0800
                                                          Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 10:09 -0800
                                                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 09:56 -0800
                                              Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 13:04 +0100
                                Re: OT: Key duplication Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-22 02:02 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Key duplication John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 09:30 +0700
                                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:36 +0100
                      Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 12:37 -0800
                        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 14:07 -0800
                          Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-18 14:41 -0800
                            Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 15:03 -0800
                              Re: OT: Key duplication David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2021-01-19 16:02 +0000
                              Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 20:48 -0800
                          Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 20:43 -0800
                    Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-20 09:08 -0500
                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 23:08 +0100
                  Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 09:08 -0500
                    Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-20 07:42 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 08:25 -0500
                  Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 09:37 -0800
              Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 08:16 -0500
            Re: OT: Key duplication  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-14 00:37 +0000
        Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-20 09:03 -0500
          Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 09:53 -0800
          Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 20:20 -0800
            Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 08:00 -0500
              Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 05:31 -0800
              Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 07:14 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 12:28 -0500
                  Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 11:18 -0800
              Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 22:15 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 17:50 -0500
                  Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:43 +0100
                    Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 08:43 -0500
                      Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:27 -0700
                        Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 12:46 -0500
                          Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 12:50 -0500
                            Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:29 +0100
                          Re: OT: Key duplication - Wine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:36 +0100
                        Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:42 +0100
                          Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 16:05 -0800
                            Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-23 09:11 -0700
                              Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 10:37 -0800
                            Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-23 17:23 -0800
                          Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-23 09:07 -0700
                            Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-23 13:42 -0500
                      Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-22 14:48 -0800
                        Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-23 05:02 +0100
                          Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-23 08:47 -0500
                      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-23 00:20 +0100
    Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 12:29 -0800
    Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 07:19 -0500

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#73960

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-21 14:06 -0800
Message-ID<ructu3$1sg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73955
On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>
>
> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)

...and linux.

More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the 
win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the 
winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD, 
creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to 
the bigger drive?

And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to 
install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the 
ESSENTIAL security updates?

This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently 
using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it 
never worked...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    There's something wrong with my keyboard.
    Whenever I type x I get x.

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#73985

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2021-01-22 04:08 +0100
Message-ID<q5spdh-au8.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#73960
On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>
>>
>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
> 
> ...and linux.
> 
> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
> the bigger drive?

Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.

You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).

Just a wild guess.


> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
> ESSENTIAL security updates?
> 
> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
> never worked...

Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.

The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
apply all the updates.

You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#73993

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-21 19:35 -0800
Message-ID<rudh6l$c8n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73985
On 01/21/2021 07:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>
>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>>
>> ...and linux.
>>
>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
>> the bigger drive?
>
> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
>
> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
>
> Just a wild guess.
>
>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>>
>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
>> never worked...
>
> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
>
> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
> apply all the updates.

Thanks.  Saved for after I've done my taxes on my current machine. 
Apparently this year's software (both TurboTax and HRBlock) require Win8 
or greater, but I haven't had the guts to try yet.  I was sufficiently 
pissed that I couldn't get an actual CD this year, just a Secret Code 
for the download.  I have a decent win10 laptop, but I like my 27" 
screen and REAL keyboard for serious work :-(

> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D

Yeah, but I figure those people are not very bright.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
            Linux -- the ultimate freebie!

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#74011

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2021-01-22 12:45 +0100
Message-ID<mfqqdh-71h.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#73993
On 22/01/2021 04.35, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/21/2021 07:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>>
>>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>>>
>>> ...and linux.
>>>
>>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
>>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
>>> the bigger drive?
>>
>> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
>>
>> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
>> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
>> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
>> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
>> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
>>
>> Just a wild guess.
>>
>>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>>>
>>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
>>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
>>> never worked...
>>
>> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
>>
>> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
>> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
>> apply all the updates.
> 
> Thanks.  Saved for after I've done my taxes on my current machine.
> Apparently this year's software (both TurboTax and HRBlock) require Win8
> or greater, but I haven't had the guts to try yet.  I was sufficiently
> pissed that I couldn't get an actual CD this year, just a Secret Code
> for the download.  I have a decent win10 laptop, but I like my 27"
> screen and REAL keyboard for serious work :-(

Here, the administration provided for many years a java application for
doing the taxes, which would work on Windows and Linux, and I suppose Macs.

Now they provide a web application which perhaps also works on tablets.

> 
>> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D
> 
> Yeah, but I figure those people are not very bright.

I suppose some of the guys in the win10 group are also in the win7
group, and I know some of them are very bright.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#74026

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-22 09:37 -0800
Message-ID<ruf2h5$ei$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74011
On 01/22/2021 03:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 22/01/2021 04.35, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/21/2021 07:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> ...and linux.
>>>>
>>>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>>>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
>>>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>>>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
>>>> the bigger drive?
>>>
>>> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
>>>
>>> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
>>> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
>>> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
>>> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
>>> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
>>>
>>> Just a wild guess.
>>>
>>>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>>>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>>>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>>>>
>>>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
>>>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
>>>> never worked...
>>>
>>> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
>>>
>>> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
>>> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
>>> apply all the updates.

That's what's painful :-(   I guess I have added drivers over the years. 
  The 2009 printer.  Several cameras.  Other stuff that I would only 
remember when I bumped into a problem.

>> Thanks.  Saved for after I've done my taxes on my current machine.
>> Apparently this year's software (both TurboTax and HRBlock) require Win8
>> or greater, but I haven't had the guts to try yet.  I was sufficiently
>> pissed that I couldn't get an actual CD this year, just a Secret Code
>> for the download.  I have a decent win10 laptop, but I like my 27"
>> screen and REAL keyboard for serious work :-(
>
> Here, the administration provided for many years a java application for
> doing the taxes, which would work on Windows and Linux, and I suppose Macs.
>
> Now they provide a web application which perhaps also works on tablets.

Nice.  I wouldn't trust OUR government to provide such a service, 
though.  Given that everything I do is already known to the government 
it would be a courtesy if they would just work out the taxes and send me 
a bill.  Not that I'd believe them, of course...

>>> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D
>>
>> Yeah, but I figure those people are not very bright.
>
> I suppose some of the guys in the win10 group are also in the win7
> group, and I know some of them are very bright.

I was just being snotty :-)

I was really comfy tweaking win3's .ini files.  I was OK with tweaking 
win95's registry.  Now I just bend over and smile.  Well, I guess I 
don't actually smile...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  "Many realize that the control of language is power. If you can't speak
   your mind, your opinions have no weight."           --nightfire-unique

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#74036

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2021-01-22 23:21 +0100
Message-ID<7pvrdh-una.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#74026
On 22/01/2021 18.37, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/22/2021 03:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 22/01/2021 04.35, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2021 07:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>>>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>>>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>>>>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to
>>>>> restore the
>>>>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>>>>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring
>>>>> THAT to
>>>>> the bigger drive?
>>>>
>>>> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
>>>>
>>>> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to
>>>> disk),
>>>> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
>>>> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
>>>> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows
>>>> partition
>>>> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
>>>>
>>>> Just a wild guess.
>>>>
>>>>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>>>>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>>>>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>>>>>
>>>>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm
>>>>> currently
>>>>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines
>>>>> and it
>>>>> never worked...
>>>>
>>>> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
>>>>
>>>> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
>>>> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
>>>> apply all the updates.
> 
> That's what's painful :-(   I guess I have added drivers over the years.
>  The 2009 printer.  Several cameras.  Other stuff that I would only
> remember when I bumped into a problem.

Well, I was comparing to installing fresh from CD.
If you already have a working system with your applications and drivers
over the years, yes, that is painful indeed. I don't suffer much about
it because my workhorse system is Linux, and I use the same system since
around year 2000 till now - of course with hardware and software
upgrades over the years. My usage of Windows is minimal and I have few
applications to install or move around.


>>> Thanks.  Saved for after I've done my taxes on my current machine.
>>> Apparently this year's software (both TurboTax and HRBlock) require Win8
>>> or greater, but I haven't had the guts to try yet.  I was sufficiently
>>> pissed that I couldn't get an actual CD this year, just a Secret Code
>>> for the download.  I have a decent win10 laptop, but I like my 27"
>>> screen and REAL keyboard for serious work :-(
>>
>> Here, the administration provided for many years a java application for
>> doing the taxes, which would work on Windows and Linux, and I suppose
>> Macs.
>>
>> Now they provide a web application which perhaps also works on tablets.
> 
> Nice.  I wouldn't trust OUR government to provide such a service,
> though.  Given that everything I do is already known to the government
> it would be a courtesy if they would just work out the taxes and send me
> a bill.  Not that I'd believe them, of course...

Ha ha! :-D

Here we are almost there. For normal people with a salary and savings,
they do provide us with the form already filled, we just have to sign
and pay. For the rest, depends. Most people only have to clarify a few
minor points in the form, then sign and pay - or be paid, on our system
it is normal for the administration to have to return some money to tax
payers (because they detracted too much from salaries and savings before).

Not for the rich, they have to employ some expert to do the job, apply
unthinkable deductions and such.

> 
>>>> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D
>>>
>>> Yeah, but I figure those people are not very bright.
>>
>> I suppose some of the guys in the win10 group are also in the win7
>> group, and I know some of them are very bright.
> 
> I was just being snotty :-)

{chuckle :-) }


> I was really comfy tweaking win3's .ini files.  I was OK with tweaking
> win95's registry.  Now I just bend over and smile.  Well, I guess I
> don't actually smile...

LOL :-}



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#74059

FromBob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-23 19:59 -0800
Message-ID<ruirak$kqh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73993
On 1/21/2021 7:35 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/21/2021 07:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>>
>>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>>>
>>> ...and linux.
>>>
>>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
>>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
>>> the bigger drive?
>>
>> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
>>
>> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
>> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
>> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
>> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
>> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
>>
>> Just a wild guess.
>>
>>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>>>
>>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
>>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
>>> never worked...
>>
>> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
>>
>> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
>> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
>> apply all the updates.
> 
> Thanks.  Saved for after I've done my taxes on my current machine. 
> Apparently this year's software (both TurboTax and HRBlock) require Win8 
> or greater, but I haven't had the guts to try yet.  I was sufficiently 
> pissed that I couldn't get an actual CD this year, just a Secret Code 
> for the download.  I have a decent win10 laptop, but I like my 27" 
> screen and REAL keyboard for serious work :-(
> 
>> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D
> 
> Yeah, but I figure those people are not very bright.
> 

I loaded HRBlock 2020 into win 7 with no problem. I haven't really 
started work on it yet.

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#73997

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2021-01-21 19:48 -0800
Message-ID<rudhu1$f97$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73985
On 1/21/2021 7:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

<snip>

> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
> 
> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
> 
> Just a wild guess.

I'd use Clonezilla and try that. It'll copy all the partitions including 
the recovery partition.

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#74019

FromKen Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Date2021-01-22 07:31 -0700
Message-ID<i705tlFg7b1U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#73985
On 1/21/2021 8:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 21/01/2021 23.06, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/21/2021 01:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
>> 
>> ...and linux.
>> 
>> More OT:  We just acquired an elderly semi-crashed computer with the
>> win7 recover partition on a too-small HD.  Is there a way to restore the
>> winsystem to a bigger HD without restoring it to the existing HD,
>> creating a recover partition on a thumb drive and then restoring THAT to
>> the bigger drive?
> 
> Depends. Depends how that recovery partition was designed to work.
> 
> You might try cloning that disk to a bigger disk (a dd of disk to disk),
> thus disregarding a lot of disk space. Then apply the recovery (if it
> boots), and when (if) windows is recovered, delete the recovery
> partition, expand the partition table, then expand the windows partition
> to use the remainder of the disk (from inside windows).
> 
> Just a wild guess.
> 
> 
>> And for bonus points, is it just as efficient (or perhaps moreso) to
>> install win7 from the disk (yes, I have one) and go through all the
>> ESSENTIAL security updates?
>> 
>> This elderly machine is better than the elderly winmachine I'm currently
>> using for taxes.  I've tried putting old win HDs in new machines and it
>> never worked...
> 
> Windows hates moving the disk to another machine.
> 
> The advantage of using a recovery partition is that you get the drivers
> appropriate for that computer already installed, but then you have to
> apply all the updates.
> 
> You know there is a dedicated win 7 usenet group? :-D


The last time I looked at it, almost nobody was still posting there.


-- 
Ken

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#73968

FromEli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Date2021-01-21 22:22 +0000
Message-ID<eli$2101211722@qaz.wtf>
In reply to#73955
In comp.mobile.android, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 21/01/2021 18.59, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/21/2021 05:56 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 21/01/2021 00.34, Eli the Bearded wrote:
>>>> Is there a religion that permits jambon but not jambon ou fromage?
>>> It may be jamón de pavo :-p

(Jamón de pavo is "turkey ham" in English)

>> I assumed he was telling the truth, but it's hard to see how he
>> could have been exposed to the WONDERFUL odor of frying bacon so
>> frequently that he developed a revulsion.

I, for one, am not a fan of the aroma of bacon.

> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
> the revulsion is instant and permanent.

not-sure-if-serious.gif

> They are not the only religion that prohibits pig: I know at least one
> christian folk that do.

Islam famously also does. The question was about "what religions allow
pig, but disallow pig with cheese."

As for turkey ham, I don't know if that plus cheese is kosher (or halal)
or not. This article:

https://www.thetorah.com/article/why-chicken-and-cheese-became-prohibited

Suggests that fowl plus cheese is permitted by some Jewish groups but
not others. The famous rabbis have so many opinions thing.

> Ham and cheese sandwich is very common here; we have a lot of experience
> with tourism, thus I'm sure most places would happily make the sandwich
> to your liking - except those that belong to a brand and have to follow
> the brand regulations even if absurd. Many of those are USA brands, say
> Starbucks, Burguer King, MacDonalds, etc :-p

Starbucks and Burger King will both famously make their products to your
specifications if you specify. However, for sandwiches, Starbucks doesn't
make them in shop, so they can't make them to order at all. Burger King
doesn't make ham and cheese sandwiches, but will make their burgers as
you like.

> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.

That seems a rather lame way to specialize in sandwiches. It's exactly
how sandwiches exist at Starbucks, but they only claim to specialize in
coffee.

> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)

Root your phone, install Termux, inside Termux run "pkg install tsu make"
then edit your Makefile, and you can run "sudo make me a sandwich".

Elijah
------
without the tsu package or rooting your phone, you can't have the "sudo"

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#73986

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2021-01-22 04:16 +0100
Message-ID<3lspdh-k99.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#73968
On 21/01/2021 23.22, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/01/2021 18.59, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2021 05:56 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 21/01/2021 00.34, Eli the Bearded wrote:
>>>>> Is there a religion that permits jambon but not jambon ou fromage?
>>>> It may be jamón de pavo :-p
> 
> (Jamón de pavo is "turkey ham" in English)

Well, I guess I can use Spanish if others use French :-D

> 
>>> I assumed he was telling the truth, but it's hard to see how he
>>> could have been exposed to the WONDERFUL odor of frying bacon so
>>> frequently that he developed a revulsion.
> 
> I, for one, am not a fan of the aroma of bacon.
> 
>> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
>> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
>> the revulsion is instant and permanent.
> 
> not-sure-if-serious.gif

Oh, someone told me that history long ago.

>
>> They are not the only religion that prohibits pig: I know at least one
>> christian folk that do.
> 
> Islam famously also does. The question was about "what religions allow
> pig, but disallow pig with cheese."

No, the wording used was "permits jambon but...". Thus, jamón de pavo is
an allowed play of words :-p



> As for turkey ham, I don't know if that plus cheese is kosher (or halal)
> or not. This article:
> 
> https://www.thetorah.com/article/why-chicken-and-cheese-became-prohibited
> 
> Suggests that fowl plus cheese is permitted by some Jewish groups but
> not others. The famous rabbis have so many opinions thing.

Yep.

I understand there is a prohibition to mixing meat with milk produces,
and those that follow it need a kitchen with separate areas and utensils.



>> Ham and cheese sandwich is very common here; we have a lot of experience
>> with tourism, thus I'm sure most places would happily make the sandwich
>> to your liking - except those that belong to a brand and have to follow
>> the brand regulations even if absurd. Many of those are USA brands, say
>> Starbucks, Burguer King, MacDonalds, etc :-p
> 
> Starbucks and Burger King will both famously make their products to your
> specifications if you specify. However, for sandwiches, Starbucks doesn't
> make them in shop, so they can't make them to order at all. Burger King
> doesn't make ham and cheese sandwiches, but will make their burgers as
> you like.

Never tried.


>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
> 
> That seems a rather lame way to specialize in sandwiches. It's exactly
> how sandwiches exist at Starbucks, but they only claim to specialize in
> coffee.

:-D

> 
>> Now, can we get back to Android? ;-)
> 
> Root your phone, install Termux, inside Termux run "pkg install tsu make"
> then edit your Makefile, and you can run "sudo make me a sandwich".

LOL

> 
> Elijah
> ------
> without the tsu package or rooting your phone, you can't have the "sudo"

I'm not a fan of rooting my working phone.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#74020

FromKen Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Date2021-01-22 07:42 -0700
Message-ID<i706hrFgalvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#73968
On 1/21/2021 3:22 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/01/2021 18.59, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2021 05:56 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 21/01/2021 00.34, Eli the Bearded wrote:
>>>>> Is there a religion that permits jambon but not jambon ou fromage?
>>>> It may be jamón de pavo :-p
> 
> (Jamón de pavo is "turkey ham" in English)
> 
>>> I assumed he was telling the truth, but it's hard to see how he
>>> could have been exposed to the WONDERFUL odor of frying bacon so
>>> frequently that he developed a revulsion.
> 
> I, for one, am not a fan of the aroma of bacon.
> 
>> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
>> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
>> the revulsion is instant and permanent.
> 
> not-sure-if-serious.gif
> 
>> They are not the only religion that prohibits pig: I know at least one
>> christian folk that do.
> 
> Islam famously also does. The question was about "what religions allow
> pig, but disallow pig with cheese."
> 
> As for turkey ham, I don't know if that plus cheese is kosher (or halal)
> or not. This article:
> 
> https://www.thetorah.com/article/why-chicken-and-cheese-became-prohibited
> 
> Suggests that fowl plus cheese is permitted by some Jewish groups but
> not others. The famous rabbis have so many opinions thing.
> 
>> Ham and cheese sandwich is very common here; we have a lot of experience
>> with tourism, thus I'm sure most places would happily make the sandwich
>> to your liking - except those that belong to a brand and have to follow
>> the brand regulations even if absurd. Many of those are USA brands, say
>> Starbucks, Burguer King, MacDonalds, etc :-p
> 
> Starbucks and Burger King will both famously make their products to your
> specifications if you specify. However, for sandwiches, Starbucks doesn't
> make them in shop, so they can't make them to order at all. Burger King
> doesn't make ham and cheese sandwiches, but will make their burgers as
> you like.
> 
>> I know a local brand here that specializes in sandwiches. But all are
>> already made, they just pick them from the cold storage. No making on
>> the spot. Probably they are brought in truck loads.
> 
> That seems a rather lame way to specialize in sandwiches. It's exactly
> how sandwiches exist at Starbucks, but they only claim to specialize in
> coffee.


Starbucks claima to specialize in coffee, but they don't claim to 
specialize in making the world's worst coffee (which is exactly what 
they do, in my opinion).



-- 
Ken

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#73980

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2021-01-21 15:16 -0800
Message-ID<rud20d$u7u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73955
On 1/21/2021 1:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

<snip>

> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
> the revulsion is instant and permanent.

It's not that way at all. Pork smells wonderful.

A priest and a rabbi were sitting next to each other on an airplane.

At mealtime, the flight attendant delivered a kosher meal to the rabbl.

After a while, the priest turned to the rabbi and asked, "Is it still a 
requirement of your faith that you not eat pork?"

The rabbi responded, "Yes, that is still one of our beliefs."

The priest then asked, "Have you ever eaten pork?"

To which the rabbi replied, "Yes, on one occasion I was visiting 
someone's home and they served ham. To avoid embarrassing the hostess I 
ate the ham."

The priest nodded in understanding and asked, "how was it?"

The rabbi replies, "I have to admit, it was very delicious."

A while later, the rabbi spoke up and asked the priest, "Is it still a 
requirement of your church that you remain celibate?

The priest replied, "Yes, that is still very much a part of our faith."

The rabbi then asked him, "Have you ever fallen to the temptations of 
the flesh?"

The priest replied, "Yes, rabbi, on one occasion I was weak and broke my 
faith."

The rabbi nodded understandingly and remained silent, thinking about 
five minutes.

Finally, the rabbi said, "Beats the hell out of ham, doesn"t it?"

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#73981

FromJohn B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-22 07:46 +0700
Message-ID<np7k0g982a7kh0kko4mob2gq8igjpi5hjt@4ax.com>
In reply to#73980
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:16:28 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/21/2021 1:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
>> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
>> the revulsion is instant and permanent.
>
>It's not that way at all. Pork smells wonderful.
>
>A priest and a rabbi were sitting next to each other on an airplane.
>
>At mealtime, the flight attendant delivered a kosher meal to the rabbl.
>
>After a while, the priest turned to the rabbi and asked, "Is it still a 
>requirement of your faith that you not eat pork?"
>
>The rabbi responded, "Yes, that is still one of our beliefs."
>
>The priest then asked, "Have you ever eaten pork?"
>
>To which the rabbi replied, "Yes, on one occasion I was visiting 
>someone's home and they served ham. To avoid embarrassing the hostess I 
>ate the ham."
>
>The priest nodded in understanding and asked, "how was it?"
>
>The rabbi replies, "I have to admit, it was very delicious."
>
>A while later, the rabbi spoke up and asked the priest, "Is it still a 
>requirement of your church that you remain celibate?
>
>The priest replied, "Yes, that is still very much a part of our faith."
>
>The rabbi then asked him, "Have you ever fallen to the temptations of 
>the flesh?"
>
>The priest replied, "Yes, rabbi, on one occasion I was weak and broke my 
>faith."
>
>The rabbi nodded understandingly and remained silent, thinking about 
>five minutes.
>
>Finally, the rabbi said, "Beats the hell out of ham, doesn"t it?"


Somewhere I read that as both the early Israelites and the early
Moslems were pastoral people that neither mutton or goat's meat could
elfishly be declared as "un clean" but pigs are difficult to herd and
don't do well in hot dry climates and so can be declared as forbidden
fruit without ruffling any feathers.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.

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#73989

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2021-01-22 04:25 +0100
Message-ID<07tpdh-gk9.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#73981
On 22/01/2021 01.46, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:16:28 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/21/2021 1:09 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> No, I don't think it happens that way. The revulsion is embedded since
>>> the earliest infancy. The first time they smell it and learn what it is,
>>> the revulsion is instant and permanent.
>>
>> It's not that way at all. Pork smells wonderful.
>>
>> A priest and a rabbi were sitting next to each other on an airplane.
>>
>> At mealtime, the flight attendant delivered a kosher meal to the rabbl.
>>
>> After a while, the priest turned to the rabbi and asked, "Is it still a 
>> requirement of your faith that you not eat pork?"
>>
>> The rabbi responded, "Yes, that is still one of our beliefs."
>>
>> The priest then asked, "Have you ever eaten pork?"
>>
>> To which the rabbi replied, "Yes, on one occasion I was visiting 
>> someone's home and they served ham. To avoid embarrassing the hostess I 
>> ate the ham."
>>
>> The priest nodded in understanding and asked, "how was it?"
>>
>> The rabbi replies, "I have to admit, it was very delicious."
>>
>> A while later, the rabbi spoke up and asked the priest, "Is it still a 
>> requirement of your church that you remain celibate?
>>
>> The priest replied, "Yes, that is still very much a part of our faith."
>>
>> The rabbi then asked him, "Have you ever fallen to the temptations of 
>> the flesh?"
>>
>> The priest replied, "Yes, rabbi, on one occasion I was weak and broke my 
>> faith."
>>
>> The rabbi nodded understandingly and remained silent, thinking about 
>> five minutes.
>>
>> Finally, the rabbi said, "Beats the hell out of ham, doesn"t it?"

:-D



> Somewhere I read that as both the early Israelites and the early
> Moslems were pastoral people that neither mutton or goat's meat could
> elfishly be declared as "un clean" but pigs are difficult to herd and
> don't do well in hot dry climates and so can be declared as forbidden
> fruit without ruffling any feathers.


Go read “Cows Pigs Wars And Witches: The Riddles of Culture” by Marvin
Harris. I think it is that one.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#73906

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-20 19:49 -0800
Message-ID<ruatjh$ek9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73860
On 01/20/2021 02:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 20/01/2021 16.38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>> Many years ago in Paris, I ordered a sandwich avec jambon e fromage. I
>> got a prompt answer "NO! Jambon OU fromage."
>
> Some religions prohibit that combination.

Did you ever see the supposed Walmart ad for ham saying 'Perfect for 
Chanukkah'?

>> So I changed my order to "deux sandwich. Une avec jambon e une avec
>> fromage, combined the two when they arrived, and threw away the extra
>> bread.


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those
    censorious, self-righteous people around me.

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#73914

FromBob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-20 21:01 -0800
Message-ID<rub1rc$1hj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73906
On 1/20/2021 7:49 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/20/2021 02:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 20/01/2021 16.38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>
>>> Many years ago in Paris, I ordered a sandwich avec jambon e fromage. I
>>> got a prompt answer "NO! Jambon OU fromage."
>>
>> Some religions prohibit that combination.
> 
> Did you ever see the supposed Walmart ad for ham saying 'Perfect for 
> Chanukkah'?
> 
>>> So I changed my order to "deux sandwich. Une avec jambon e une avec
>>> fromage, combined the two when they arrived, and threw away the extra
>>> bread.
> 
> 

I once saw a hot dog in a bun with a slice of cheese in a food machine 
where I worked. It was labeled "kosher hot dog".

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#73915

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-20 22:47 -0800
Message-ID<rub81k$v50$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73914
On 01/20/2021 09:01 PM, Bob F wrote:
> On 1/20/2021 7:49 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/20/2021 02:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2021 16.38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Many years ago in Paris, I ordered a sandwich avec jambon e fromage. I
>>>> got a prompt answer "NO! Jambon OU fromage."
>>>
>>> Some religions prohibit that combination.
>>
>> Did you ever see the supposed Walmart ad for ham saying 'Perfect for
>> Chanukkah'?
>>
>>>> So I changed my order to "deux sandwich. Une avec jambon e une avec
>>>> fromage, combined the two when they arrived, and threw away the extra
>>>> bread.
>
> I once saw a hot dog in a bun with a slice of cheese in a food machine
> where I worked. It was labeled "kosher hot dog".

Perhaps it was a VegeWiener.  Ghastly things.  When the kids were tiny I 
gave them those to nibble on because they didn't draw ants when the kids 
left them in/under the couch.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled.

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#73921

FromBob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-21 05:16 -0800
Message-ID<ruburr$fjk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73915
On 1/20/2021 10:47 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/20/2021 09:01 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> On 1/20/2021 7:49 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/20/2021 02:14 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 20/01/2021 16.38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Many years ago in Paris, I ordered a sandwich avec jambon e fromage. I
>>>>> got a prompt answer "NO! Jambon OU fromage."
>>>>
>>>> Some religions prohibit that combination.
>>>
>>> Did you ever see the supposed Walmart ad for ham saying 'Perfect for
>>> Chanukkah'?
>>>
>>>>> So I changed my order to "deux sandwich. Une avec jambon e une avec
>>>>> fromage, combined the two when they arrived, and threw away the extra
>>>>> bread.
>>
>> I once saw a hot dog in a bun with a slice of cheese in a food machine
>> where I worked. It was labeled "kosher hot dog".
> 
> Perhaps it was a VegeWiener.  Ghastly things.  When the kids were tiny I 
> gave them those to nibble on because they didn't draw ants when the kids 
> left them in/under the couch.
> 

It was a long time before they invented vege-anythings.

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#73936

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-21 09:55 -0800
Message-ID<rucf67$ind$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73921
On 01/21/2021 05:16 AM, Bob F wrote:
> On 1/20/2021 10:47 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/20/2021 09:01 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>>
>>> I once saw a hot dog in a bun with a slice of cheese in a food machine
>>> where I worked. It was labeled "kosher hot dog".
>>
>> Perhaps it was a VegeWiener.  Ghastly things.  When the kids were tiny I
>> gave them those to nibble on because they didn't draw ants when the kids
>> left them in/under the couch.
>
> It was a long time before they invented vege-anythings.

Mid-60s.  They'd been around for a long time -- made by the 7th Day 
Adventists or other religious group that regards eating meat as a sin. 
Their vege-burger was even worse.  Hard to believe that a benevolent god 
would inflict that stuff on his followers.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
            Linux -- the ultimate freebie!

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