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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-16 04:46 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-20 16:56 +0000 |
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Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 04:46 -0500
Re:Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:17 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2018-11-19 11:34 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:14 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-16 21:39 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 17:09 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 00:39 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 02:31 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 04:00 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 05:52 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-17 00:48 -0600
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:03 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:55 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:25 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 20:25 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 15:46 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 21:09 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 07:54 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:03 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:09 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 10:55 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:30 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:16 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:43 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:22 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:36 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:55 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:33 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:34 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:48 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:42 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:40 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 18:36 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 06:36 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:21 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 09:44 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 19:26 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-19 09:41 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:43 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 13:05 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:11 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 08:04 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-11-21 14:50 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 09:41 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 10:41 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 18:54 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-21 20:35 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:42 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-21 20:50 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:16 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:29 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:54 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:44 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-22 18:39 -0700
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:04 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 22:20 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-19 07:59 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 09:28 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:01 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:31 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2018-11-20 19:04 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:24 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:03 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:09 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:23 +0100
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:40 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:42 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:32 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:57 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 20:15 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:36 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 17:15 -0500
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-20 16:56 +0000
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pt4kj5$olu$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57751 |
On 11/21/2018 1:10 PM, nospam wrote: > people can still use sms if they want, but their friends and family may > complain that they aren't using whatsapp, fb messenger, etc. My friends and family mostly use SMS for texting simply because they DON'T KNOW what messaging app the others might be using. And virtually everyone (friends and family) has SMS capability.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt4ppg.5fs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57763 |
123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > On 11/21/2018 1:10 PM, nospam wrote: > > > people can still use sms if they want, but their friends and family may > > complain that they aren't using whatsapp, fb messenger, etc. > > My friends and family mostly use SMS for texting simply because they > DON'T KNOW what messaging app the others might be using. And virtually > everyone (friends and family) has SMS capability. Come on! What kind of sane behaviour is *that*!? Why can't at least a few of them use an IM method that is incompatible with a one a few others use!? There are *so* many incompatible ones to choose from, so it *must* be possible to have a communication breakdown! You're just not trying hard enough! Bunch of wimps! BTW, why are we all use English here? What's wrong with Dutch and Spanish and German and ...
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 15:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pt4nmj$b0b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57769 |
On 11/21/2018 3:29 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > BTW, why are we all use English here? What's wrong with Dutch and > Spanish and German and ... Nothing. I admire those who can speak/write more than one language. My metro area is around 30% Hispanic. In my past life I tried to learn conversational Spanish since my job put me in contact with the public. I failed miserably. So my hats off to you multi-language people. In answer to your question if this group were in another than English, I couldn't participate...
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-22 16:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt6pi2.a70.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57770 |
123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > On 11/21/2018 3:29 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > > BTW, why are we all use English here? What's wrong with Dutch and > > Spanish and German and ... > > Nothing. > > I admire those who can speak/write more than one language. My metro area > is around 30% Hispanic. In my past life I tried to learn conversational > Spanish since my job put me in contact with the public. I failed > miserably. So my hats off to you multi-language people. In answer to > your question if this group were in another than English, I couldn't > participate... You didn't miss the tongue-in-cheek analogy of my comment, did you!? I.e. the incompatbility of your English/iMessage [1] versus my Dutch/WhatsApp. [1] Sorry about that. No way I was going to have Dutch/iMessage, so iMessage ended up in your court! :-)
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-22 18:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pt7lot$d0f$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57784 |
On 11/22/2018 9:44 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > 123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: >>> BTW, why are we all use English here? What's wrong with Dutch >>> and Spanish and German and ... > You didn't miss the tongue-in-cheek analogy of my comment, did you!? I thought I recognized an analogy but obviously misinterpreted it. I thought you meant that like SMS being a common medium, English is also a common medium - between those speaking different languages. (Because English is the most widely learned second language.) > I.e. the incompatbility of your English/iMessage [1] versus my > Dutch/WhatsApp. But I certainly didn't catch that. > [1] Sorry about that. No way I was going to have Dutch/iMessage, so > iMessage ended up in your court! :-) Nothing to be sorry for. And I meant what I said about you multi-linguists. BTW I tried to learn the piano too... :-/
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 22:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt4oaa.b3c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57751 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pt4d4j.5j0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg > <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > > choose whatever messaging app best fits your needs. > > > > But that choice applies apparently only to you, because you deny all > > others [1] in this and similar/earlier threads to make their own choice. > > i'm not denying anyone anything. <Firmly sitting on hands.> > all i said was that sms is obsolete, having been replaced with > messaging apps. numerous cites already given. (As others have mentioned as well,) You clearly don't know what "obsolete" does and doesn't mean. Same for "replaced". Nothing has been 'replaced'. Other IM systems have been *added*. > i also said to use whatever their friends and family use. How utterly kind of you! > people can still use sms if they want, but their friends and family may > complain that they aren't using whatsapp, fb messenger, etc. Or they may complain that they aren't using SMS. BTW, what's *your* excuse for continuing to ramble on *this* 'obsolete' and 'replaced' medium!? Hypocritical much!? BTW2, I use SMS and WhatsApp and email and FAX and letters and ..., I hope that's allright with you?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-21 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt4lo8$kv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57716 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pt33v5$78v$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> I don't deny IM app are more popular than SMS. > > exactly the point. Your aggressive snipping doesn't change the point. You said: "what matters is number of messages sent/received, not number of phones sold. " Note "number" not proportion relative to some other factor. So, no not "exactly that point". > >> However, SMS is far, far >> from obsolete > > it's obsolete. messaging surpasses it in every way. No it doesn't. >> Especially with iMessage >> blurring the lines between them. > > imessage doesn't blur the lines at all. in fact, it's the opposite.it > makes the difference very clear by using blue and green bubbles. I've had to explain to several people what those colours mean. They didn't understand the difference and just ignored it. Despite the fact they were confused that some messages (chats) weren't reliably being sent. Turns out they had mobile data turned off. E.g https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150211/05455029985/green-bubbles-how-apple-quietly-gets-iphone-users-to-hate-android-users.shtml Not quite the same point, but it shows that the different colours' meaning is being conflated with targeting Android users. Trying to explain how tapping and holding an undelivered chat and selecting "send as text message" just gives blank expressions. >> Discounting 1tr messages a year is folly. > > when compared with numbers more than an order of magnitude higher, it's > very easy to discount it, and the difference is becoming wider. Now I see how minority populations feel :(
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pt1pf2.7q4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57692 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > > Am 19.11.18 um 15:41 schrieb nospam: > >> In article <psudei$h77$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>>> P.S.: A lot of people have feature phones and a lot of people do > >>>>> not use a mobile data at all, or with just minimal data plan, > >>>>> switched ON on their demand only, > >>>>> so they are not reachable. > >>>>> > >>>> In one word: Outdated and a population that shrinks every day. In Europe > >>>> it is almost inexistent. > >>> > >>> Yet still approx half of all eu shipments > >>> > >>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/225489/market-share-of-the-european-region- > >>> in-global-feature-phone-and-smartphone-shipments/#0 > >>> > >>> Still a very blinkered view. Most mobile users are outside of the EU and > >>> US. In Africa and the Indian subcontinent feature phones are still > >>> dominant. Globally they make up ~50% of all phones sold. > >>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/285596/forecast-smartphone-penetration-amongst-mobile-users-worldwide/ > >> > >> what matters is number of messages sent/received, not number of phones > >> sold. > > > > +1 > > Ok. How does 1 trillion SMS messages sound? Not very "non-existent" is it? > https://www.statista.com/statistics/712394/a2p-sms-traffic-worldwide/ > > In the UK it's about 100 billion > https://www.statista.com/statistics/271561/number-of-sent-sms-messages-in-the-united-kingdom-uk/ Yup, in our country (NL) it's average over 200 messages per year per person of all ages (i.e. babies till 115 years or so). But, as nospam said, WhatsApp outnumbers SMS, so SMS is dead and SMS outnumbers NetNews, so
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 07:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g5f8rmFna38U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57645 |
Joerg Lorenz wrote: > Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS. You must live with and interact with very different people to me.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 09:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psts7l$fe9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57649 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message: > Joerg Lorenz wrote:> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS. > You must live with and interact with very different people to me. Similarly as there is many even young people who do not intentionally have a Facebook/Twitter/Whatever account, there are many, who do not intentionally want a smartphone. For similar reasons many do not have even TV. They are afraid or even verified these technology advances would take too much of their time and they prefer to spend it rather by the old-fashened direct physical interaction with people, real life hobbies and interests. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 11:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psu1ku$dc4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57651 |
Am 19.11.18 um 09:28 schrieb Libor Striz: > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message: >> Joerg Lorenz wrote:> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS. > >> You must live with and interact with very different people to me. > > Similarly as there is many even young people who do not > intentionally have a Facebook/Twitter/Whatever account, > there are many, who do not intentionally want a smartphone. > For similar reasons many do not have even TV. I admire these people but your point is completely OT. > They are afraid or even verified > these technology advances would take too much of their time and > they prefer to spend it rather by the old-fashened direct > physical interaction with people, real life hobbies and > interests. They live an admirable life but your point is OT.
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| From | Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 11:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psu3du$nfm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57654 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: > Am 19.11.18 um 09:28 schrieb Libor Striz:> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:>> Joerg Lorenz wrote:> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS.> >> You must live with and interact with very different people to me.> > Similarly as there is many even young people who do not> intentionally have a Facebook/Twitter/Whatever account,> there are many, who do not intentionally want a smartphone.> For similar reasons many do not have even TV.I admire these people but your point is completely OT.> They are afraid or even verified> these technology advances would take too much of their time and> they prefer to spend it rather by the old-fashened direct> physical interaction with people, real life hobbies and> interests.They live an admirable life but your point is OT. Not more than you info about outdated not used SMS. :-) aka texting. -- Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer) "Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity." Miloš Forman ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
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| From | Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-20 19:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <32649919-8899-ebb8-e62e-6dbe638b700b@telia.com> |
| In reply to | #57657 |
2018-11-19 11:31 skrev Libor Striz: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message: >> Am 19.11.18 um 09:28 schrieb Libor Striz:> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:>> Joerg Lorenz wrote:> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS.> >> You must live with and interact with very different people to me.> > Similarly as there is many even young people who do not> intentionally have a Facebook/Twitter/Whatever account,> there are many, who do not intentionally want a smartphone.> For similar reasons many do not have even TV.I admire these people but your point is completely OT.> They are afraid or even verified> these technology advances would take too much of their time and> they prefer to spend it rather by the old-fashened direct> physical interaction with people, real life hobbies and> interests.They live an admirable life but your point is OT. > > Not more than you info about outdated not used SMS. :-) aka texting. > Your ng reader (X-Newsreader: PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free:1.65) sucks. It's not acceptable to ignore newlines in cited text, at least if they start with a >. -- Lars Enderin
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psugf4.aos.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57649 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > Joerg Lorenz wrote: > > > Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > > ever answer back with an SMS. > > You must live with and interact with very different people to me. Trust me, not only you. OTOH, it's quite funny see someone say "completely outdated" in a *NetNews/Usenet message* for crying out loud. Isn't NetNews/Usenet "completely outdated" and 'replaced' (by web forums) as well!?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 08:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pstrvs$ga7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57645 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 18.11.18 um 22:09 schrieb Andy Burns: >> nospam wrote: >> >>> real sms is primitive. messaging apps do quite a bit more, including >>> end-to-end encryption >> >> Nothing I send via SMS needs encrypting >> >>> embedded media >> >> I would use email >> >>> receipts >> >> SMS supports delivery notifications (not all providers do, or some of >> them charge) >> >>> group chats >>> p2p payments >> >> Neither are the sort of thing I use SMS for >> >>> and will work on a desktop/laptop computer >> >> The QR code link from a desktop browser to the Android Messaging app is >> quite neat >> >> <https://messages.android.com> >> >>> as well as over wifi. >> >> There are more places where I have no WiFi than where I have no 2G coverage. >> >> > Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never > ever answer back with an SMS. > Full quote intentional. Very odd assertion. Almost everyone I know uses SMS maybe not exclusively, but they do use it. In iOS for example it's hard to know the difference as imessages is used for both SMS and encrypted IM chat. Maybe you only hang around with teenagers and never communicate with organisations?
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 11:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psu1ps$dc4$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57650 |
Am 19.11.18 um 09:24 schrieb Chris: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never >> ever answer back with an SMS. >> Full quote intentional. > > Very odd assertion. Almost everyone I know uses SMS maybe not exclusively, > but they do use it. In iOS for example it's hard to know the difference as > imessages is used for both SMS and encrypted IM chat. > > Maybe you only hang around with teenagers and never communicate with > organisations? Bullshit. I'm almost 60 but I have 4 kids and my colleagues at the office are younger than I am. But my 80year old Dad is communicating with iMsg and WA.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 13:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psuclq$cg5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57655 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 09:24 schrieb Chris: >> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>> Your choice but completely outdated. And 99% of the users will never >>> ever answer back with an SMS. >>> Full quote intentional. >> >> Very odd assertion. Almost everyone I know uses SMS maybe not exclusively, >> but they do use it. In iOS for example it's hard to know the difference as >> imessages is used for both SMS and encrypted IM chat. >> >> Maybe you only hang around with teenagers and never communicate with >> organisations? > > Bullshit. Which bit? > I'm almost 60 but I have 4 kids and my colleagues at the > office are younger than I am. But my 80year old Dad is communicating > with iMsg and WA. Does your dad know the difference between SMS and Apple IM in iMessage and what the implications are? For example does he use it to "text" any of his Android owning friends?
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 14:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psudgh$eqa$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57661 |
Am 19.11.18 um 14:09 schrieb Chris: > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >> I'm almost 60 but I have 4 kids and my colleagues at the >> office are younger than I am. But my 80year old Dad is communicating >> with iMsg and WA. > > Does your dad know the difference between SMS and Apple IM in iMessage and > what the implications are? For example does he use it to "text" any of his > Android owning friends? Is this a serious question? Not really ... My Dad is using all the features you can imagine: From iCloud, GPS, Fotos, E-Mail and the like very proficiently. And he likes his Apple-watch very much and uses it the full extent. Questions?
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 15:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psup14.2rs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57667 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 14:09 schrieb Chris: > > Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > >> I'm almost 60 but I have 4 kids and my colleagues at the > >> office are younger than I am. But my 80year old Dad is communicating > >> with iMsg and WA. > > > > Does your dad know the difference between SMS and Apple IM in iMessage and > > what the implications are? For example does he use it to "text" any of his > > Android owning friends? > > Is this a serious question? Not really ... Are you in the habit of answering your questions for others? But, yes, for someone with a non-closed mind it is a serious question. > My Dad is using all the features you can imagine: From iCloud, GPS, > Fotos, E-Mail and the like very proficiently. > > And he likes his Apple-watch very much and uses it the full extent. > > Questions? Yes. Why did you dodge the "For example does he use it to "text" any of his Android owning friends?" question?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-19 19:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psv3mi$3dt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57667 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: > Am 19.11.18 um 14:09 schrieb Chris: >> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote: >>> I'm almost 60 but I have 4 kids and my colleagues at the >>> office are younger than I am. But my 80year old Dad is communicating >>> with iMsg and WA. >> >> Does your dad know the difference between SMS and Apple IM in iMessage and >> what the implications are? For example does he use it to "text" any of his >> Android owning friends? > > Is this a serious question? Not really ... Absolutely. That's why asked it/them. > My Dad is using all the features you can imagine: From iCloud, GPS, > Fotos, E-Mail and the like very proficiently. Good for him. > And he likes his Apple-watch very much and uses it the full extent. > > Questions? Yes, I asked three. None of which you attempted to answer. You snipped one of them.
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