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| Started by | K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> |
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| First post | 2018-11-08 10:52 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-17 10:30 -0500 |
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8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-08 10:52 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:11 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-08 22:31 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-09 17:07 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-10 02:36 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 11:34 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-11 11:47 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:23 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 12:37 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 19:19 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:34 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 07:53 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 08:11 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 12:22 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 14:02 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:01 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:51 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:05 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-13 12:39 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:02 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:16 +0100
[OT] Ping: Piet (was: 8MB sms pic) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 22:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-16 09:46 +0100
Re: [OT] Ping: Piet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 11:50 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:19 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:20 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:21 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-11 16:44 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:21 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 08:17 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:32 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 20:47 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 06:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-11 23:40 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 19:02 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-12 19:07 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-12 21:28 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:21 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:25 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 02:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 20:39 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:11 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:40 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:50 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 11:13 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 10:26 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 11:43 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 12:06 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 08:28 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 10:17 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:46 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:37 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:40 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 16:06 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:14 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 22:16 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-14 18:41 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-15 18:57 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:48 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-13 18:36 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 20:32 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:30 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:12 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 10:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 18:51 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:22 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 21:42 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 19:54 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:06 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 20:26 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 22:40 -0400
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 21:23 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:32 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-12 22:21 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:50 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:02 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:29 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-13 08:18 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 23:34 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:32 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:43 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:54 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 18:31 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:49 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 19:16 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 14:24 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:31 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:15 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 17:28 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 12:53 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-14 18:47 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-14 19:00 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-14 14:33 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-14 15:38 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 00:04 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 00:25 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 12:53 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 15:08 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:03 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 17:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 15:40 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:27 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 12:09 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 19:01 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 14:51 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-15 21:11 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-15 16:47 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:43 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 01:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:10 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-17 11:24 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-15 10:32 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 14:48 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-14 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 18:05 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 19:10 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 13:22 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-16 15:03 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:23 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-13 11:40 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:46 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-13 06:35 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:17 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:37 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:57 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 11:59 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:38 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:08 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 00:21 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:34 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-13 08:12 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-13 06:06 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-13 15:04 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 10:54 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-13 06:59 -0600
Re: 8MB sms pic nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-13 09:03 -0500
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-11 13:11 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-11 17:27 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-12 02:37 +0100
Re: 8MB sms pic KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2018-11-08 09:19 -0700
Re: 8MB sms pic musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2018-11-09 11:48 +0000
Re: 8MB sms pic K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> - 2018-11-17 10:30 -0500
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 11:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <g4vlvlFf5i1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57457 |
On 13/11/2018 10.51, Piet wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Piet wrote:
>>> I'm not talking about security, but about privacy.
>>> And wa = fb isn't just a privacy issue, but a privacy disaster.
>>
>> Ok, then: what privacy issue?
>
> wa = fb
Nope.
Same company, yes. Just do not install the facebook app. Then they can
not share the phone book.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-13 12:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psed4l$nu7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57458 |
Carlos E. R. wrote: > Piet wrote: >> Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> Piet wrote: >>>> I'm not talking about security, but about privacy. >>>> And wa = fb isn't just a privacy issue, but a privacy disaster. >>> >>> Ok, then: what privacy issue? >> >> wa = fb > > Nope. Get a life. -p
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 19:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psdbb8$13tu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57405 |
On 11/12/2018 6:02 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Facebook app, yes, that one is intrusive. Not installed here. Over the years I would have missed thousands of photos (and comments) from my extended family while they were growing up in various parts of the country/world if not for Facebook/Instagram. IMO it's a good thing, warts and all. YMMV...
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 21:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pscn3a$uvj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57403 |
Am 12.11.18 um 12:22 schrieb Piet: > So does Signal, but without the privacy issues. Sure, because nobody uses Signal.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-15 22:10 +0000 |
| Subject | [OT] Ping: Piet (was: 8MB sms pic) |
| Message-ID | <psku8k.7js.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57403 |
Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:
[...]
"The first open transatlantic Internet connectivity ("open" as opposed
to "private" links, mainly for military and military-related purposes,
like SATNET) for Europe started here at CWI, on 17 November 1988."
Heard your name in today's EenVandaag TV show. Were you in any of the
photos?
Happy 30th anniversary! Party this Saturday?
Those were the days!
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| From | Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-16 09:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Ping: Piet |
| Message-ID | <psm046$v0e$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57559 |
Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Piet wrote:
> "The first open transatlantic Internet connectivity ("open" as opposed
> to "private" links, mainly for military and military-related purposes,
> like SATNET) for Europe started here at CWI, on 17 November 1988."
>
> Heard your name in today's EenVandaag TV show.
Yep. Wasn't happy with the show: too much nonsense told. As usual.
> Were you in any of the photos?
Nope. Couldn't be at CWI when the recordings were made.
> Happy 30th anniversary! Party this Saturday?
Thanks, but no party. Maybe just a brexit. ;-)
> Those were the days!
*those* were the days:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/net.general/SAySa4oghVU/75Vgl4u9WtEJ
-p
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-16 11:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Ping: Piet |
| Message-ID | <psmede.8v4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57570 |
Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Piet wrote:
> > "The first open transatlantic Internet connectivity ("open" as opposed
> > to "private" links, mainly for military and military-related purposes,
> > like SATNET) for Europe started here at CWI, on 17 November 1988."
> >
> > Heard your name in today's EenVandaag TV show.
>
> Yep. Wasn't happy with the show: too much nonsense told. As usual.
Yeah, I wasn't impressed either, but it brought back some nice
memories.
> > Were you in any of the photos?
>
> Nope. Couldn't be at CWI when the recordings were made.
I meant, they also showed some old photos, but since I don't know you
face-to-face, I couldn't tell if you were in this photos.
> > Happy 30th anniversary! Party this Saturday?
>
> Thanks, but no party. Maybe just a brexit. ;-)
Or some nice (NOT) demonstrations when Sinterklaas arrives! :-(
> > Those were the days!
>
> *those* were the days:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/net.general/SAySa4oghVU/75Vgl4u9WtEJ
Cool!
My oldest - at least the oldest I could find - in Google Groups is
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.sys.hp/KoIH1hwWdmY/qsHAI2VktsMJ
i.e. nearly seven years later.
I'm sure you appreciate the 'mcvax!hp4nl!' part in the 'Path:'! :-)
At the time, I couldn't be bothered to gives our/my NetNews archives
to Google. Don't think Google could handle our 'Linus' tapes! :-)
Take care!
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 06:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psb2h2$fmu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57381 |
Am 11.11.18 um 18:37 schrieb K120: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:23:02 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> said: > >> They are not more or less popular than here in Europe. How do you come >> to this conclusion or speculation? > > I don't understand the advantage of whatsapp to me. > > What does whatsapp do that my unlimited free MMS/SMS doesn't do? > You have no idea what a modern messenger is and what it can do.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 02:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <041nbf-56n.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #57375 |
On 11/11/2018 17.23, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > Am 11.11.18 um 13:08 schrieb Carlos E.R.: >> On 11/11/2018 12.47, Andy Burns wrote: >>> Chris wrote: >>> >>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd never heard of SMS images until this thread. (I thought SMs >>>>> were limited to something like 140 bytes, which hardly any images >>>>> will fit within!) >>>> >>>> The OP is probably talking about MMS. Which functions a bit like SMS >>>> with images, but uses a different mechanism. >>> MMS are not especially popular in the UK, even if you have a contract >>> that includes thousands of (or unlimited) SMS messages/month, you are >>> charged up to 55p to send an MMS. >> >> Apparently they are popular at the other side of the pond, they can send >> them for free. Thus other messaging applications, such as Whatsapp, are >> less popular. > > They are not more or less popular than here in Europe. How do you come > to this conclusion or speculation? Direct observation. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-11 17:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ps9ktu$f81$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57371 |
Am 11.11.18 um 12:47 schrieb Andy Burns: > Chris wrote: > >> J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> >>> I'd never heard of SMS images until this thread. (I thought SMs >>> were limited to something like 140 bytes, which hardly any images >>> will fit within!) >> >> The OP is probably talking about MMS. Which functions a bit like SMS >> with images, but uses a different mechanism. > MMS are not especially popular in the UK, even if you have a contract > that includes thousands of (or unlimited) SMS messages/month, you are > charged up to 55p to send an MMS. MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics.
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| From | K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-11 16:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <psa7sb$1rc9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57374 |
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:21:18 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> said: > MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and > other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. I don't understand how you say that sms/mms is dead. Why don't I know anyone using whatsapp for sms/mms in the usa?
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 06:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psb2l8$fmu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57385 |
Am 11.11.18 um 22:44 schrieb K120: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:21:18 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> said: > >> MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and >> other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. > > I don't understand how you say that sms/mms is dead. > Why don't I know anyone using whatsapp for sms/mms in the usa? > How do you come to this completely absurd conclusion? In the USA Facebook messenger is more popular messenger.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 08:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <psbcur$v4j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57385 |
K120 <hunterfox@interweb.net> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:21:18 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> said: > >> MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and >> other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. > > I don't understand how you say that sms/mms is dead. > Why don't I know anyone using whatsapp for sms/mms in the usa? Demographics.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 02:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <8q1nbf-hkn.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #57374 |
On 11/11/2018 17.21, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > Am 11.11.18 um 12:47 schrieb Andy Burns: >> Chris wrote: >> >>> J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >>> >>>> I'd never heard of SMS images until this thread. (I thought SMs >>>> were limited to something like 140 bytes, which hardly any images >>>> will fit within!) >>> >>> The OP is probably talking about MMS. Which functions a bit like SMS >>> with images, but uses a different mechanism. >> MMS are not especially popular in the UK, even if you have a contract >> that includes thousands of (or unlimited) SMS messages/month, you are >> charged up to 55p to send an MMS. > > MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and > other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. Sorry, this is not true. Go cross the pond to the west and you will see many people using MMS and not knowing what wasap is. It is not dead on _all_ markets, far from it. It is very alive. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-11 20:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <111120182047315949%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57388 |
In article <8q1nbf-hkn.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > > MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and > > other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. > > Sorry, this is not true. Go cross the pond to the west and you will see > many people using MMS and not knowing what wasap is. > > It is not dead on _all_ markets, far from it. It is very alive. it's very true. whatsapp, facebook messenger, viber, signal, imessage, snapchat and others have almost entirely replaced sms and mms for several reasons, including cost, privacy and features.
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 06:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <psb2vf$i4g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57388 |
Am 12.11.18 um 02:32 schrieb Carlos E.R.: > On 11/11/2018 17.21, Joerg Lorenz wrote: >> MMS still works but de facto it is dead in all markets. WhatsApp and >> other mennsgers are much more efficient in sending pics. > > Sorry, this is not true. Go cross the pond to the west and you will see > many people using MMS and not knowing what wasap is. > > It is not dead on _all_ markets, far from it. It is very alive. > I travel al lot in the USA and I can tell you this is not true. And Facebook Messenger is there what WhatsApp is in Europe. SMS/MMS plays no role anymore in personal communication. Even not the most senior friends and relatives are using SMS or MMS anymore.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-11 23:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <psb79p$16ki$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57393 |
On 11/11/2018 10:27 PM, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > SMS/MMS plays no role anymore in personal communication. My doctor's appointment reminders are via SMS. When one of my credit cards is used I immediately get notified by SMS (of the amount and location - handy for keeping an eye on fraud and the wife). My sensitive accounts send me 2-step verification codes by SMS. Virtually all my family non-verbal phone communication is by SMS (YMMV). Verizon warns me when I am hooked up to a Mexican tower by SMS. So in my part of the world your stated demise of SMS is greatly exaggerated...
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 19:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pscm8o.bng.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57395 |
123456789 <12345@12345.com> wrote: > On 11/11/2018 10:27 PM, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > > > SMS/MMS plays no role anymore in personal communication. > > My doctor's appointment reminders are via SMS. When one of my credit > cards is used I immediately get notified by SMS (of the amount and > location - handy for keeping an eye on fraud and the wife). My sensitive > accounts send me 2-step verification codes by SMS. Virtually all my > family non-verbal phone communication is by SMS (YMMV). Verizon warns me > when I am hooked up to a Mexican tower by SMS. So in my part of the > world your stated demise of SMS is greatly exaggerated... For MMS, Joerg's statement is somewhat overstated. For SMS, it's - for reasons such as the ones you mentioned - utter nonsense. This is not the first - and probably not the last - time, he poses his personal views, situation, etc. as worldwide universal truths. Apparently he did not learn from his last nearly-absolute statement, so this time he cranked it up a notch and made a totally-absolute one.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 19:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g4u1b2F4405U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57395 |
123456789 wrote: > Joerg Lorenz wrote: > >> SMS/MMS plays no role anymore in personal communication. > > in my part of the > world your stated demise of SMS is greatly exaggerated... In the UK usage has peaked, but it's still 82 billion/year with a population of 70 million.
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 21:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pscnoi$5fu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57411 |
Am 12.11.18 um 20:07 schrieb Andy Burns: > 123456789 wrote: > >> Joerg Lorenz wrote: >> >>> SMS/MMS plays no role anymore in personal communication. >> >> in my part of the >> world your stated demise of SMS is greatly exaggerated... > > > In the UK usage has peaked, but it's still 82 billion/year with a > population of 70 million. > The providers are desperate because SMS hardly plays a role in personal communication any more. For dentist reminders and credentials of forgotten logins and that kind of info it has a lease of life. MMS is dead anyway and never delivered what they expected from this primitive service.
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