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Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-01 23:53 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-02 19:42 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 14:24 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-02 21:49 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 20:26 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 04:46 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 12:48 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 16:42 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 13:41 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 21:09 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 18:00 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Bill <Billaboard@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 00:22 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 21:01 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-03 23:11 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-04 14:45 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 12:27 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 11:59 -0800
stored maps (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-04 20:32 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:18 -0800
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:04 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:18 -0800
Re: stored maps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:26 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 16:42 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:08 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 18:22 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:52 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:15 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:34 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:13 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 21:58 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 21:39 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-06 01:18 +0100
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 20:39 -0800
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-06 14:28 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 09:58 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 14:23 -0400
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-06 10:57 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-06 14:23 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-07 23:11 +0100
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-05 21:42 +0100
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:05 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 21:41 +0000
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-06 22:36 +0100
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-07 01:20 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-07 16:23 +0000
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-07 16:53 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-07 18:47 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 13:49 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-07 19:10 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-08 00:21 +0000
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 20:53 -0800
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:01 -0400
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:26 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:09 -0400
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 16:11 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 11:57 -0400
Re: stored maps 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-07 18:41 -0700
Re: stored maps The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-07 21:04 -0800
Re: stored maps Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-08 05:55 +0100
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-08 06:55 +0000
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-08 13:38 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:31 +0000
Re: stored maps "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:08 +0100
Re: stored maps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-06 11:25 +0000
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 19:18 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: stored maps "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:16 +0000
Re: stored maps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: stored maps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-06 08:11 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 14:31 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 14:23 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 02:08 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 20:10 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 22:24 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:13 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 10:25 -0800
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:15 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:16 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:56 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:23 +0100
navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:29 +0000
Re: navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:40 +0100
Re: navigation "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 14:47 +0000
Re: navigation "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:04 +0100
Re: navigation 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 09:34 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-11-05 13:08 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 11:20 +0100
navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 10:34 +0000
Re: navigation (was: Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead?) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:51 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 09:34 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 19:21 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-05 12:11 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 20:19 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:16 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 20:28 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-05 20:21 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-05 22:11 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-03 20:25 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 04:40 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 00:22 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 12:43 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-03 13:41 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-03 22:40 +0100
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 13:12 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-02 14:24 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Steve Oates <steveoates@tiscali.co.uk> - 2018-11-04 17:53 +0000
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-04 12:27 -0700
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2018-11-06 23:37 +0200
Re: Are Android Tablets Really Dead? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-04 19:35 +0000
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| From | Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 05:55 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <ps0fjs$7o1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57294 |
Am 07.11.18 um 19:47 schrieb Frank Slootweg: > N.B. It's quite humourous to note that in Joerg's non-"underdevelopped > market" people have to pay extra for roaming in their neighbouring > countries. No such problem in my country and - I assume - not (yet) in > John's and your country. The vast majority has roaming included in their contracts. Try to understand what you read. The roaming protection in the EU is an adiminitrative verdict and has nothing to do with market. Au contraire. And the UK will lose the portection with the Brexit witha high degree of probability.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 06:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <g4i4ufFechiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57308 |
Joerg Lorenz wrote: > the UK will lose the portection with the Brexit with a high degree of > probability. We'll see, but personally I doubt it, the inclusive roaming includes non-EU countries.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 13:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <ps1hos.6tg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57308 |
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Am 07.11.18 um 19:47 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
> > N.B. It's quite humourous to note that in Joerg's non-"underdevelopped
> > market" people have to pay extra for roaming in their neighbouring
> > countries. No such problem in my country and - I assume - not (yet) in
> > John's and your country.
>
> The vast majority has roaming included in their contracts. Try to
> understand what you read.
Don't worry, *I* do read and understand what I read. Maybe you should
do the same. "included in their contracts" means they *do* pay extra,
because the price per month depends on the amount of roaming.
> The roaming protection in the EU is an adiminitrative verdict and has
> nothing to do with market. Au contraire.
Did I say otherwise?
> And the UK will lose the portection with the Brexit witha high degree of
> probability.
That's why I said '(yet)', didn't I?
BTW, as you didn't respond to my earlier ('grandfather') response
(<news:prv71i.aug.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>), I assume you
concede any and all of the points made in said response.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 19:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <IxiyLLfcqJ4bFwFn@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #57182 |
In message <g4bf9rFtu4tU1@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: >On 05/11/2018 17.42, Frank Slootweg wrote: [] >> Note that OsmAnd's OSM maps, carry much, much more information than >> just roads, for example the locations, sizes and shapes of individual >> buildings. > >The free version is limited to ten downloads. The pay version is not >expensive and has unlimited downloads. [] Is that ten altogether, or ten in memory at once? (If ten altogether, what's to stop you uninstalling it and then starting again - unless they're relying on the inconvenience?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stoopid gesture be done on somebody's part." "We're just the guys to do it." Eric "Otter" Stratton (Tim Matheson) and John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi) - N. L's Animal House (1978)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 22:08 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <g4bpprF1n36U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57206 |
On 05/11/2018 20.31, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <g4bf9rFtu4tU1@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> On 05/11/2018 17.42, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> []
>>> Note that OsmAnd's OSM maps, carry much, much more information than
>>> just roads, for example the locations, sizes and shapes of individual
>>> buildings.
>>
>> The free version is limited to ten downloads. The pay version is not
>> expensive and has unlimited downloads.
> []
> Is that ten altogether, or ten in memory at once? (If ten altogether,
> what's to stop you uninstalling it and then starting again - unless
> they're relying on the inconvenience?)
Ten altogether. You can remove the app and reinstall it, 10 again.
Probably also delete all the application data would also work. In both
cases you also lose all settings and labels, stored places.
I also wanted the altitude data, which is another pay plugin to display it.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 11:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <prs179.8fs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57206 |
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: > In message <g4bf9rFtu4tU1@mid.individual.net>, Carlos E. R. > <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > >On 05/11/2018 17.42, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [] > >> Note that OsmAnd's OSM maps, carry much, much more information than > >> just roads, for example the locations, sizes and shapes of individual > >> buildings. > > > >The free version is limited to ten downloads. The pay version is not > >expensive and has unlimited downloads. > [] > Is that ten altogether, or ten in memory at once? (If ten altogether, > what's to stop you uninstalling it and then starting again - unless > they're relying on the inconvenience?) [Carlos already answered that.] The pay version is only 6 Euro [1] and for that they don't just maintain the app, but also maintain and update the maps and run their server(s). I've been using the pay version for nearly 4 years now, on as many devices as I want. IMO, it's a steal. FWIW, I don't like apps where you have to pay upfront, before you've had the opportunity to check if it suits your needs. But limit-ware or trial-ware - if done sensibly - is fine by me. [1] I.e. probably some 60 pounds! :-)
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 19:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <WRO1DsdudJ4bFwlm@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #57178 |
In message <prpve9.7qs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes: [] > Google Maps can only store a 50x50 km/miles map areas - if that -, >i.e. useless for any real travels. Is it actually a square (or rectangular) area then? [] > Apps which can work offline, like OsmAnd, Sygic, Co-Pilot etc. can >store anywhere from provinces/states to countries to continents. [] Is the reason for Google's tiny area in comparison _because_ of its dynamic nature (has details of repairs, traffic etc.), or some other reason? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stoopid gesture be done on somebody's part." "We're just the guys to do it." Eric "Otter" Stratton (Tim Matheson) and John "Bluto" Blutarsky (John Belushi) - N. L's Animal House (1978)
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <051120181455315354%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57200 |
In article <WRO1DsdudJ4bFwlm@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: > > Google Maps can only store a 50x50 km/miles map areas - if that -, > >i.e. useless for any real travels. > > Is it actually a square (or rectangular) area then? it's multiple tiles, with the overall area varying in size & shape, typically covering roughly 15-30 minutes of driving in any direction, and likely biased to places you normally frequent (which google knows). it also depends how far you zoom in. the more detail shown, the smaller the range. > Is the reason for Google's tiny area in comparison _because_ of its > dynamic nature (has details of repairs, traffic etc.), or some other > reason? the former. google maps was designed to be used with a full time data connection, where map data is downloaded on demand as well as current traffic data, road closures, etc. using it without a data connection may 'work', but it's going to be extremely limiting, to the point of non-functional, as it was never designed to work that way. a small portion is cached, but it's not that hard to overdrive the boundary. other map products are designed to not need a data connection, instead using preloaded maps, which takes up valuable space on the device and may not have the latest up to date information. some might use a mix of both, with preloaded maps but obtaining current traffic data.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 20:16 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <Bc8ggUkmUK4bFw2w@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #57209 |
In message <051120181455315354%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >In article <WRO1DsdudJ4bFwlm@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver (John) ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> > Google Maps can only store a 50x50 km/miles map areas - if that -, >> >i.e. useless for any real travels. >> >> Is it actually a square (or rectangular) area then? > >it's multiple tiles, with the overall area varying in size & shape, >typically covering roughly 15-30 minutes of driving in any direction, >and likely biased to places you normally frequent (which google knows). >it also depends how far you zoom in. the more detail shown, the smaller >the range. > > >> Is the reason for Google's tiny area in comparison _because_ of its >> dynamic nature (has details of repairs, traffic etc.), or some other >> reason? > >the former. > >google maps was designed to be used with a full time data connection, >where map data is downloaded on demand as well as current traffic data, >road closures, etc. using it without a data connection may 'work', but >it's going to be extremely limiting, to the point of non-functional, as >it was never designed to work that way. a small portion is cached, but >it's not that hard to overdrive the boundary. You probably often drive further than I do. > >other map products are designed to not need a data connection, instead >using preloaded maps, which takes up valuable space on the device and >may not have the latest up to date information. > >some might use a mix of both, with preloaded maps but obtaining current >traffic data. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf You know what the big secret about posh people is? Most of them are lovely. - Richard Osman, RT 2016/7/9-15
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <051120181544382202%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57214 |
In article <Bc8ggUkmUK4bFw2w@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> Is the reason for Google's tiny area in comparison _because_ of its > >> dynamic nature (has details of repairs, traffic etc.), or some other > >> reason? > > > >the former. > > > >google maps was designed to be used with a full time data connection, > >where map data is downloaded on demand as well as current traffic data, > >road closures, etc. using it without a data connection may 'work', but > >it's going to be extremely limiting, to the point of non-functional, as > >it was never designed to work that way. a small portion is cached, but > >it's not that hard to overdrive the boundary. > > You probably often drive further than I do. how far do you drive?
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 08:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: stored maps |
| Message-ID | <g4d0l7F9ok0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57178 |
Frank Slootweg wrote: > Google Maps can only store a 50x50 km/miles map areas - if that -, > i.e. useless for any real travels. I have a single offline area on my tablet that covers more of England than I regularly travel, the square is 275x275 km Plus you can have multiple offline areas.
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 14:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <prnoek$1sjo$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #57132 |
On 11/4/2018 12:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote: > No data plan, so google maps are useless To save data Google allows WiFi map downloads before your trip. So the only data used is for updates and is minuscule. Data plans are very cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan of course.... > I like Co-Pilot because it's easy to enter addresses. With Google (and the wife's Siri) you can just talk the address in... ;)
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 14:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57135 |
On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> On 11/4/2018 12:59 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> No data plan, so google maps are useless
>
> To save data Google allows WiFi map downloads before your trip. So the
> only data used is for updates and is minuscule.
I know, but I was just speaking of traffic warnings. The Garmin does
those as long as the unit is plugged in -- the cord is the antenna.
Hrm. I wonder if it works if you don't plug the cord into the cigarette
lighter socket...
> Data plans are very
> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo
> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan
> of course....
My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for
emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too
much for twice-a-year usage :-(
>> I like Co-Pilot because it's easy to enter addresses.
>
> With Google (and the wife's Siri) you can just talk the address in... ;)
--
Cheers, Bev
"Don't bother looking for that key. There is no Esc."
-- M. Tabnik
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 02:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <TkYkutFKY63bFwOB@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #57139 |
In message <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote: [] >> Data plans are very >> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo >> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan >> of course.... > >My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for >emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too >much for twice-a-year usage :-( [] Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of occasional use, do they (-:! [Though if yours is yearly, that's still a plan ... (-:] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf A perfectionist takes infinite pains and often gives them to others
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| From | 123456789 <12345@12345.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 20:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <procau$67b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57146 |
On 11/4/2018 7:08 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of > occasional use, do they (-: I saved a bundle when Verizon went to unlimited talk/text and free roaming (US). Course I'm not gonna say who in my household is responsible for saving me all that cash... ;)
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-04 22:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <pronmi$e5d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57146 |
On 11/04/2018 06:08 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
>>On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> []
>>> Data plans are very
>>> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo
>>> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan
>>> of course....
>>
>>My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for
>>emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too
>>much for twice-a-year usage :-(
> []
> Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of
> occasional use, do they (-:! [Though if yours is yearly, that's still a
> plan ... (-:]
Prepaid T-Mobile account, discontinued but grandfathered. As long as I
buy $10 worth of minutes once a year the ~600 I have roll over. I use
it as a camera more often, but it's kind of disappointing. I'd be
happier with less "G" and a better camera.
--
Cheers, Bev
If he had any brains, he'd take them out and play with them.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 10:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5czuQbLafB4bFwhp@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #57152 |
In message <pronmi$e5d$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >On 11/04/2018 06:08 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> In message <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev >> <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >>>On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote: >> [] >>>> Data plans are very >>>> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo >>>> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan >>>> of course.... >>> >>>My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for >>>emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too >>>much for twice-a-year usage :-( >> [] >> Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of >> occasional use, do they (-:! [Though if yours is yearly, that's still a >> plan ... (-:] > >Prepaid T-Mobile account, discontinued but grandfathered. As long as I >buy $10 worth of minutes once a year the ~600 I have roll over. I use >it as a camera more often, but it's kind of disappointing. I'd be >happier with less "G" and a better camera. > Same here, except I don't have to pay once a year. I can't remember how many years since I bought the SIM and put ten pounds on it, but last time I looked there was still about seven left ... (I do have to use it occasionally to keep the number alive, but that's universal, isn't it?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... social media's tendency to knock on front doors and run away. Andrew Collins, RT 2017/8/5-11
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 10:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <prq1un$4ib$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #57160 |
On 11/05/2018 02:13 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <pronmi$e5d$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
>>On 11/04/2018 06:08 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> In message <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote:
>>> []
>>>>> Data plans are very
>>>>> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo
>>>>> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan
>>>>> of course....
>>>>
>>>>My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for
>>>>emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too
>>>>much for twice-a-year usage :-(
>>> []
>>> Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of
>>> occasional use, do they (-:! [Though if yours is yearly, that's still a
>>> plan ... (-:]
>>
>>Prepaid T-Mobile account, discontinued but grandfathered. As long as I
>>buy $10 worth of minutes once a year the ~600 I have roll over. I use
>>it as a camera more often, but it's kind of disappointing. I'd be
>>happier with less "G" and a better camera.
>>
> Same here, except I don't have to pay once a year. I can't remember how
> many years since I bought the SIM and put ten pounds on it, but last
> time I looked there was still about seven left ...
>
> (I do have to use it occasionally to keep the number alive, but that's
> universal, isn't it?)
I've never seen a system like that here -- Just buy a chunk of
voice/data that lasts forever and buy more when you run out.
--
Cheers, Bev
If he had any brains, he'd take them out and play with them.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 19:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <prq80o.7pk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #57187 |
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/05/2018 02:13 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > > In message <pronmi$e5d$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev > > <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: > >>On 11/04/2018 06:08 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > >>> In message <prnrh7$qcu$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev > >>> <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: > >>>>On 11/04/2018 01:31 PM, 123456789 wrote: > >>> [] > >>>>> Data plans are very > >>>>> cheap these days. We (2 phones in the family) live on 2GB/mo (+ 1mo > >>>>> rollover) and seldom use close to half. YMMV should you get a data plan > >>>>> of course.... > >>>> > >>>>My voice plan is $10/year. I have a 200MB/month freedompop hotspot for > >>>>emergencies and hardly ever use it. Virtually ANY monthly fee is too > >>>>much for twice-a-year usage :-( > >>> [] > >>> Yes, anyone who's on any monthly "plan" doesn't "get" the concept of > >>> occasional use, do they (-:! [Though if yours is yearly, that's still a > >>> plan ... (-:] > >> > >>Prepaid T-Mobile account, discontinued but grandfathered. As long as I > >>buy $10 worth of minutes once a year the ~600 I have roll over. I use > >>it as a camera more often, but it's kind of disappointing. I'd be > >>happier with less "G" and a better camera. > >> > > Same here, except I don't have to pay once a year. I can't remember how > > many years since I bought the SIM and put ten pounds on it, but last > > time I looked there was still about seven left ... > > > > (I do have to use it occasionally to keep the number alive, but that's > > universal, isn't it?) > > I've never seen a system like that here -- Just buy a chunk of > voice/data that lasts forever and buy more when you run out. It's actually quite common in the civilized/non-third world! :-)
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 14:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <051120181416053406%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #57187 |
In article <prq1un$4ib$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Prepaid T-Mobile account, discontinued but grandfathered. As long as I > >>buy $10 worth of minutes once a year the ~600 I have roll over. I use > >>it as a camera more often, but it's kind of disappointing. I'd be > >>happier with less "G" and a better camera. > >> > > Same here, except I don't have to pay once a year. I can't remember how > > many years since I bought the SIM and put ten pounds on it, but last > > time I looked there was still about seven left ... > > > > (I do have to use it occasionally to keep the number alive, but that's > > universal, isn't it?) > > I've never seen a system like that here -- Just buy a chunk of > voice/data that lasts forever and buy more when you run out. they exist. a few mvnos offer pay for what you use, either on an ongoing basis or a block of data to last as long as it does.
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