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The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1

Started by"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
First post2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
Last post2018-10-04 16:21 -0700
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  The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
          Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Krusty <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-29 15:57 +0800
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-29 23:13 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
                  Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
                        Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
                    Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-09-29 00:00 +0100
                      Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-09-28 16:21 -0700
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
            Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
              Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700

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#56109

FromArlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
Date2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
Message-ID<polr4s$81s$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#56107
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad 
> now.  :-)

*Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*

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#56110

FromRene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca>
Date2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
Message-ID<g17b7tF431pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56109
On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> 
>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad
>> now.  :-)
> 
> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
> 

Just to piss you off.

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#56113

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
Message-ID<slrnpqt759.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>
In reply to#56110
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>> 
>>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad
>>> now.  :-)
>> 
>> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
>> 
>
> Just to piss you off.
>
I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else
I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux).

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#56114

From"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk>
Date2018-09-29 00:00 +0100
Message-ID<uUKrCdDwJrrbFwao@255soft.uk>
In reply to#56107
In message <g178ffF3hc0U1@mid.individual.net>, Rene Lamontagne 
<rlamont@shaw.ca> writes:
>On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
[snipped]
>>  Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks.
>>
>
>Yeah, He does get boring eh.
>
>Rene
>
I had, quite a while ago; however, I keep seeing followups. From people 
I normally respect. I know it's hard to "let him have the last word", 
but just _don't respond_.
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#56115

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2018-09-28 16:21 -0700
Message-ID<jpdtqdtlir44ecgnndcleeb6e92o6j7gpa@4ax.com>
In reply to#56114
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:00:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <g178ffF3hc0U1@mid.individual.net>, Rene Lamontagne 
><rlamont@shaw.ca> writes:
>>On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>[snipped]
>>>  Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, He does get boring eh.
>>
>>Rene
>>
>I had, quite a while ago; however, I keep seeing followups. From people 
>I normally respect. I know it's hard to "let him have the last word", 
>but just _don't respond_.



I agree completely. Best is to killfile trolls, so the question of
whether to respond never comes up.

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#56302

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA971BE02EBAC6HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh>
In reply to#56098
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28
Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>> the source code for every app on android.
>> 
>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
>> subscribers for). 
>> 
>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, 
> 
> Ok. Let's go there.
> 
> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it.
> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be
> illegal. That's true. 
> 
> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the
> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new
> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal
> activity. They are logically distinct. 
> 
> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal
> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A.

Didn't I already cover this when I wrote:

I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's  
perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
committing copyright infringement when using the application. 
 


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#56311

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
Message-ID<pp73vm$rjo$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56302
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28
> Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
> 
>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>>> the source code for every app on android.
>>> 
>>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
>>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
>>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
>>> subscribers for). 
>>> 
>>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, 
>> 
>> Ok. Let's go there.
>> 
>> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it.
>> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be
>> illegal. That's true. 
>> 
>> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the
>> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new
>> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal
>> activity. They are logically distinct. 
>> 
>> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal
>> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A.
> 
> Didn't I already cover this when I wrote:
> 
> I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's  
> perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
> videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
> committing copyright infringement when using the application. 

Indeed you did. He just didn't get it. I think he does now as in every
reply to me he snipped more and more of what I said as he couldn't refute
the fact that new pipe might facilitate copyright theft despite it, in
itself, being completely legal. 

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#56303

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA971BE0474280HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh>
In reply to#56095
Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> 
>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>> the source code for every app on android.
> 
> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
> subscribers for). 

You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote:

I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's 
perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all 
videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually 
committing copyright infringement when using the application. 

The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use 
the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not.
 
> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that
> Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe
> functionality and source code particulars.

Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. 
 


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#56305

FromAlan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date2018-10-04 16:21 -0700
Message-ID<pp67a9$1al6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#56303
On 2018-10-04 3:29 PM, Diesel wrote:
> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net>
> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in
> alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>
>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has
>>> the source code for every app on android.
>>
>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code
>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal,
>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe
>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for
>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red
>> subscribers for).
> 
> You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote:
> 
> I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's
> perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all
> videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually
> committing copyright infringement when using the application.
> 
> The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use
> the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not.
>   
>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at
>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that
>> Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe
>> functionality and source code particulars.
> 
> Which has nothing to do with what I wrote.
>   
> 
> 

Have you ever noticed that those who most often use "adult" as an 
adjective are almost always the least adult people in a conversation?

:-)

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