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  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 03:30 +0000
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 04:07 +0000
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-17 00:34 -0400
    Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 15:14 +0000
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? BK@Onramp.net - 2018-09-19 12:20 -0500
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-22 17:14 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-22 13:19 -0400
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-22 17:52 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-22 14:41 -0400
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-23 00:15 +0000
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2018-09-23 06:34 +0200
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-23 16:49 +1200
      Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-24 20:39 -0400
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "wasbit" <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-25 10:36 +0100
          Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-25 16:11 +0000
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-25 15:23 -0400
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-25 19:29 +0000
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:33 +0000
                  Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:02 -0400
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-25 13:08 -0700
                Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:43 +0000
            Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:29 +0000
              Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-09-26 01:42 +0000
        Re: What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally? "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 21:19 +0000

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#56032

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:08:33 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

> Oh the irony!!

While Savageduck is a well-known Apple Apologists with the mind of a child,
notice that he can't supply a single iota of on-topic value to _any_ thread
topic.

I don't have to prove this fact - he proves it in every single post!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/AxDiTgaej0k/jh0R7CgxBQAJ>

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#56030

On 25 Sep 2018 16:11:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
> Mac:
> 
> 1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
> 2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
> 3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
> 4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.

While I realize facts aren't your forte, Jolly Roger, the fact is that Ant
knows this, right?

Ant likely doesn't *own* the devices he's trying to copy to and from (only
he can tell us if that's the case), so, we can't assume anything about the
"apple id", now can we, JollY Roger.

HINT: *Jolly Roger - you _love_ to play your silly childish games.*

Fact is ... Ant has been spectacularly unsuccessful.

The question (for adults only), is why has Ant, after coming up on three
weeks and counting, still been spectacularly unsuccessful?

Surely Ant is not an Apple Apologists so he is telling the truth that he's
been spectacularly unsuccessful.

Let's ask Ant why this method you propose hasn't worked for him yet, even
after almost three weeks elapsed time trying.

-- 
HINT: I accomplished the task in less than two minutes.

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#56040

On 2018-09-25, Arlen H. Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2018 16:11:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Here's one of THE simplest ways to copy photos from an iOS device to any
>> Mac:
>> 
>> 1. Connect the iOS device to the Mac with its USB cable.
>> 2. On the Mac, open /Applications/Image Capture.
>> 3. Select the iOS device in the sidebar.
>> 4. Click Import and choose/create a folder for the photos.
>
> While I realize facts aren't your forte, Jolly Roger

Projection.

> the fact is that Ant knows this, right?

Fact: No. Not right. Ant has not indicated he has tried or even knows
about this. And considering I only posted this a day or so ago, he
likely hasn't even read it yet.

> Ant likely doesn't *own* the devices he's trying to copy to and from (only
> he can tell us if that's the case), so, we can't assume anything about the
> "apple id", now can we, JollY Roger.

Fact: The steps above don't mention an Apple ID or any other Apple
account because none is involved or needed. Image Capture is built into
macOS and does not use any internet connection to transfer photos over
the USB cable from an iOS device to the Mac. The fact that you are
suggesting an internet connection and Apple account are involved shows
just how pitifully ignorant you are about the subject, which isn't
surprising at all considering you actually think booting into Linux is a
brilliant way to transfer photos from an iPhone to a Mac.

> HINT: *Jolly Roger - you _love_ to play your silly childish games.*

Fact: I'm not playing any games. The procedure of using Image Capture to
transfer photos from any iOS device to any Mac works well and is about
as simple as it gets.

> Fact is ... Ant has been spectacularly unsuccessful.

Fact: Ant hasn't spent a whole lot of time trying to be successful, and
almost certainly hasn't tried using Image Capture - nor has he stated
such.

> The question (for adults only), is why has Ant, after coming up on three
> weeks and counting, still been spectacularly unsuccessful?

Only Ant can answer that.

> Surely Ant is not an Apple Apologists so he is telling the truth that he's
> been spectacularly unsuccessful.
>
> Let's ask Ant why this method you propose hasn't worked for him yet, even
> after almost three weeks elapsed time trying.

Fact: I only posted these steps a day or so ago. Ant probably hasn't
even read them yet.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#56029

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 20:39:35 -0400, YK wrote:

> All this great, but the 90% of the computer users don't care about this. 

This isn't my first rodeo on Usenet, so allow me to allay your concerns.

The proposed method works perfectly with:
a. Any desktop (Winodws, Linux, or the Mac)
b. Any mobile device (iOS or Android)

If people don't care about that, then they don't belong on this thread.

> My 2 co-workers and I support around 800 computers in house 200 in the 
> field, Windows and Mac. The users just want to do everything the 
> simplest way, without leaving their browser, Word, or email application, 
> let alone having to restart their computer or run virtual software. We 
> have people who don't understand that a simple restart could easily take 
> care of many of their small problems.

What could be simpler than just plugging in any iOS or Android mobile
device on the planet, and sliding any file the users wants to and from the
desktop and mobile device?

> I work in the real world and we simply don't have time to run around and 
> transfer images and files for people. We teach them the skills they need 
> to use their computers in the environment they work in. What they use or 
> do at home is not our concern.

If you really think _that_ simply sliding files is complex, then you may
need to revisit your definition of "complex", since that's trivially simple
to do.

> I am glad you have this hobby of pointing out the shortcomings of people 
> using Apple products, but I see people everyday that are steadfast in 
> their love and advocacy of the Windows and Android utilizing devices. I 
> figure whatever works for them, meets their needs, and they are 
> comfortable using is great for me and my coworkers in IT.

You don't seem to have any concept of the mind of the Apple Usenet poster.
The typical Apple poster on Usenet lives in a world of misguided imaginary
beliefs, which have zero basis in actual facts.

We prove this to be the case every single day, with almost every post made
by the likes of Lewis, Jolly Roger, Savageduck, nospam, BK@OnRamp, Chris,
Alan Baker, Tim Streater, etc.

For decades, I've been studying the Apple user, where I've written up many
threads which point out how vastly different the Apple Usenet poster is
from normal adults.

Here's just one...
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

> Earlier, in another thread, you asked me what I had to contribute and to 
> try to prove you wrong. First, whatever I said would have been shot down 
> (as you will probably do with this post). Second, I beleive you are out 
> to prove everyone else wrong and you want to pound your own chest to 
> prove intelligence, experience, and knowledge. 

I'm here to prove that the Apple Apologists are _exactly_ what they prove
themselves to be, in every post they make.

You astutely picked up on that I am on a crusade, which is interesting, as
the Apple Apologists, themselves, are clueless that this is my goal ... 

You'll notice that I only speak facts.
Do you know why?

*HINT: Facts are the weakness of the Apple Apologists.*
a. They just make everything up
b. They never supply facts (since it's all just made up)
c. They can't stand facts (because facts erode their belief system)

It's the same way to refute religious zealots, by the way.

*Their entire believe system doesn't appear to have room for facts.*
It's their inbred weakness.

That's why I only speak facts.
They have no defense against facts.

They're not used to dealing with people who actually deal in facts.

> We each contribute to 
> society what we can. Some folks want to just do their job as best they 
> can and others want to be King of the Hill. I have received some good 
> tips and knowledge on USENET that I can use in life and my job. I am 
> confident I will get more in the future.

I've contributed vastly to Usenet, with so many tutorials I can't count
them, many of which break new ground.

This thread, for example, from yesterday, already broke new ground for many
people (including me) where, sans the Apple trolls, we made tremendous
progress in just two days.
<http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/EOP3G3NM/quick-assessment-of-3-windows-tools-to-read-write-linux-filesystems-on-dual-boot-desktops>

You probably don't know this, but scores of times in just the last year
alone, I've posted anonymous threads to the Apple newsgroups, and the same
threads to the adult newsgroups (on pertinent technical topics).

Almost invariably the Apple newsgroups' threads devolve into instant
childish drivel - time and again - no matter the question or the "person"
asking the question - whereas the exact same question asked on the adult
newsgroups comes to fruition almost every time.

If you don't realize that the Apple Usenet poster is NOT a normal adult,
then you won't be able to comprehend that statistically valid fact.

HINT: *There's a _REASON_ Apple users gravitate to Apple products!*
 
> I wish you the best in your quest to belittle many here and Mac users in 
> general.

You have one thing wrong - which is that the Mac users themselves belittle
themselves by posting the drivel that they post. 

For example, look up _anything_ ever said by the likes of Tim Streater or
Alan Baker, as just a canonical example.

Everything they've ever posted to Usenet, is childish fifth-grade drivel.
Most of the Mac posters are like that, as again, we proved by posting the
same thread to the Mac groups, and then to the adult groups (e.g., Windows
and Linux).

*The contrast in the childish responses from the Mac groups is astounding!*

> One last thing, which claw hammer is the best, curved claw or straight 
> claw? My answer, what you have and what job you are using it for. I have 
> both and use them on a regular basis.

I disagree with your assessment but that's because you clearly don't know
as much about the *mobile* products as I do, with respect to the stark,
utter, and absolute difference in functionality.

However, I agree wholeheartedly with you that using Apple devices is like
using a ball-peen hammer to try to remove a nail, where there is no claw.

I've said this many times, although I normally equate the iOS device with a
butterknife and Android with a chainsaw, both of which claim to cut down
trees.

The Apple user is *afraid* of the power of the chain saw, which is proven
time and again that they complain about how dangerous Android is compared
to iOS.

But at the very same time, I can list just off the top of my head over a
score of functionality that the Apple butter knife just can't do (e.g.,
automatic phone recording, loading from any app site, using any launcher
you damn well please, debugging WiFi with a typical moving graph of the
wifi signal strength over time of all available access points, etc.).

And, we've asked many times the opposite question, which is a fact, that
there is absolutely zero app functionality on iOS that isn't already on
Android. If there was, someone could come up with it and defend it using
facts (where we already proved many times, facts are the Apple users'
weakness).

Hence, I only speak facts:
a. There's NOTHING by way of app functionality on iOS (all by its itty
bitty self) that isn't _already_ on Android, and, 
b. There's PLENTY on Android by way of app functionality (all by its itty
bitty self), that is not on iOS (and likely never will be).

Those are facts which make your "claw hammer" analogy false.

It's not the difference in types of hammers so much as trying to cut down a
tree with a butterknife versus a chainsaw.

HINT: The reasonable user sms prefers I compare an Apple iOS device to a
hand saw, while acceding the Android device is more like a chain saw. 

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