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| Started by | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| First post | 2018-08-13 18:07 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-10-01 21:12 +0100 |
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Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-13 21:23 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 01:46 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:39 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 17:27 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:09 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 19:27 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 23:56 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 18:08 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-16 21:33 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:16 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 02:20 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:37 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:59 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:45 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-15 09:08 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-15 12:16 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 20:43 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 13:02 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:41 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:22 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 18:38 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:09 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:14 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:56 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 18:08 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 22:46 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 16:23 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:22 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:25 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:32 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:43 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:29 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:16 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:41 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:45 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:55 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-26 11:10 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 10:52 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 20:04 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:57 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 00:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-20 17:39 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:46 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:22 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 15:08 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:42 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:18 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:31 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-19 17:24 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:11 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:03 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:31 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-23 17:26 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 20:53 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:31 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 10:56 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:50 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 13:20 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:58 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:19 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:47 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:57 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:48 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:02 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 10:50 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 15:15 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 20:18 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 09:41 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 13:44 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 17:28 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-29 10:16 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 17:32 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 21:01 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 09:58 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-30 10:59 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-08-31 12:21 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:32 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:55 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:41 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 07:06 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:18 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:04 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:33 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:48 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:51 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:16 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:56 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 13:37 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:21 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 17:20 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:06 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 08:34 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-02 08:49 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-02 08:23 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 09:12 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 10:00 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:12 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:11 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:07 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:06 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:59 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:28 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 14:20 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:07 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:02 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:34 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:09 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:12 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 16:28 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:36 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:28 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:31 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:24 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:15 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:50 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:14 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 07:23 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:18 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-31 09:20 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 13:43 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:24 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:53 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:38 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:03 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-31 17:44 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:20 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:11 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 11:58 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 13:38 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:53 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 14:13 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:36 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:24 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:55 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:18 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 10:49 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:57 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:35 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:30 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:04 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 20:23 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:00 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 21:13 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:02 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 13:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:04 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:09 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:50 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:15 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 19:26 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:32 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-09-09 14:34 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-08 07:14 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 15:33 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:04 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:11 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 19:34 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:34 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 00:16 -0400
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Josh Nack" <klu098@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:25 +1000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:47 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 11:00 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 12:36 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:52 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:29 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:06 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 08:18 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:01 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-15 10:51 +0100
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:00 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:20 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:18 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:57 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-10-02 13:03 +0800
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:45 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:42 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:33 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 12:17 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:48 +0000
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 04:46 -0700
Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Apd" <not@all.invalid> - 2018-10-01 21:12 +0100
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 14:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmpgue$fak$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55541 |
On 9/5/2018 4:58 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Apparently nospam thinks (FSVSVO 'think') that POTS/'landlines'/ > <whatever> is not a shared network [1]. That's ofcourse false and hence > anything derived from that bogus assumption is also nonsense. Many people probably share that misconception based on how DSL used to perform better than cable broadband because there was no sharing of the bandwidth from the home to the Central Office (as opposed to cable broadband). The reality is that the call capacity of the copper network is limited. > Not to mention that a 'landline' doesn't have to be a POTS line. > Nowadays a 'fixed' phone often uses a network which is completely - i.e. > end-to-end - shared, via VOIP, etc.. So the bastards with such a > 'landline' should pay as well for incoming calls, because they're using > 'airtime', i.e. bandwidth! Just like many bridges charge tolls for only one direction, it all evens out. Charge 2x to the caller and nothing to the receiver. > [1] Only the 'Local loop'/'Last mile' part is non-shared. True, but with AT&t fiber to the home that's often not true anymore either.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 01:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpp114q.1udc.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #55541 |
In message <pmone1.mo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 10:40:32 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <ldkkoddb6djugg1ivotpi494rmt2vod3vo@4ax.com>, Chris in >> >Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote: >> > >> >> >> You make the call, you pay for it. It's a simple principle that has >> >> >> been around for decades. >> >> > >> >> >you use airtime, you pay for it. very simple. >> >> > >> >> >don't force *other* people to pay for *your* airtime usage. >> >> >> >> Once again you've evaded the question. >> > >> >no evasion at all. i keep explaining it and you keep ignoring it. >> > >> >> For the third time of trying, why should the called party pay for >> >> airtime usage when there's no similar charge for landline users? >> > >> >landlines aren't free. landline users pay for their phone service and >> >in some cases, pay per minute on top of the monthly fees, which i've >> >explained already. >> >> Exactly. Landline callers pay for calls THEY make. They don't pay for >> received calls. That's what I've been trying to get you to understand. >> >> >> As I keep pointing out, a landline involves a large investment to lay >> >> miles of copper wire, plus the exchange line equipment, plus the >> >> maintenance for it all. >> > >> >what you fail to understand is that landlines are not a limited >> >resource the way cellular is. once a cell site is at capacity, no more >> >calls can be made or received. >> >> Nonsense. A cellsite can have as much additional equipment installed >> as necessary to meet the demand. > Apparently nospam thinks (FSVSVO 'think') that POTS/'landlines'/ > <whatever> is not a shared network [1]. That's ofcourse false and hence > anything derived from that bogus assumption is also nonsense. It is not a shared network in anyway that is commonly accepted as a definition of "shared network". > Not to mention that a 'landline' doesn't have to be a POTS line. > Nowadays a 'fixed' phone often uses a network which is completely - i.e. > end-to-end - shared, via VOIP, etc.. So the bastards with such a > 'landline' should pay as well for incoming calls, because they're using > 'airtime', i.e. bandwidth! > [...] > [1] Only the 'Local loop'/'Last mile' part is non-shared. No, you are entirely wrong on that. -- "Why do you wear that stupid bunny suit?" "Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?"
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 14:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmrkba.cmo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55570 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <pmone1.mo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: [...] > > Apparently nospam thinks (FSVSVO 'think') that POTS/'landlines'/ > > <whatever> is not a shared network [1]. That's ofcourse false and hence > > anything derived from that bogus assumption is also nonsense. > > It is not a shared network in anyway that is commonly accepted as a > definition of "shared network". Well, I'm only doing networks since the (very) early 70's, so what the hell do I know!? BTW, can you please pull the wires a bit back on your end, because they are a bit longish on my end? Thanks. [...] > > [1] Only the 'Local loop'/'Last mile' part is non-shared. > > No, you are entirely wrong on that. But you fail to say *why*! So pray tell, *which* *other* part(s) is/are non-shared as well?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050920180915572703%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55540 |
In article <pj9vodh5e4rk8aefhsnqqsufd7brg5bc14@4ax.com>, Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote: > > > >> For the third time of trying, why should the called party pay for > >> airtime usage when there's no similar charge for landline users? > > > >landlines aren't free. landline users pay for their phone service and > >in some cases, pay per minute on top of the monthly fees, which i've > >explained already. > > Exactly. Landline callers pay for calls THEY make. They don't pay for > received calls. That's what I've been trying to get you to understand. they absolutely do. nothing is free. it's either included in the base rate or it's per minute, depending on provider and plan and in some cases, they pay an additional charge for cnam dips.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 04:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fvan4jFkcdbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55548 |
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:050920180915572703%nospam@nospam.invalid... > In article <pj9vodh5e4rk8aefhsnqqsufd7brg5bc14@4ax.com>, Chris in > Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> For the third time of trying, why should the called party pay for >> >> airtime usage when there's no similar charge for landline users? >> > >> >landlines aren't free. landline users pay for their phone service and >> >in some cases, pay per minute on top of the monthly fees, which i've >> >explained already. >> >> Exactly. Landline callers pay for calls THEY make. They don't pay for >> received calls. That's what I've been trying to get you to understand. > > they absolutely do. No they do not to receive an extra landline call. > nothing is free. The extra landline call is. > it's either included in the base rate or it's per minute, depending on > provider and plan and in some cases, they pay an additional charge for > cnam dips.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55540 |
On 9/5/2018 3:08 AM, Chris in Makati wrote: > On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 10:40:32 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article <ldkkoddb6djugg1ivotpi494rmt2vod3vo@4ax.com>, Chris in >> Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote: >> >>>>> You make the call, you pay for it. It's a simple principle that has >>>>> been around for decades. >>>> >>>> you use airtime, you pay for it. very simple. >>>> >>>> don't force *other* people to pay for *your* airtime usage. >>> >>> Once again you've evaded the question. >> >> no evasion at all. i keep explaining it and you keep ignoring it. >> >>> For the third time of trying, why should the called party pay for >>> airtime usage when there's no similar charge for landline users? >> >> landlines aren't free. landline users pay for their phone service and >> in some cases, pay per minute on top of the monthly fees, which i've >> explained already. > > Exactly. Landline callers pay for calls THEY make. They don't pay for > received calls. That's what I've been trying to get you to understand. > >>> As I keep pointing out, a landline involves a large investment to lay >>> miles of copper wire, plus the exchange line equipment, plus the >>> maintenance for it all. >> >> what you fail to understand is that landlines are not a limited >> resource the way cellular is. once a cell site is at capacity, no more >> calls can be made or received. > > Nonsense. A cellsite can have as much additional equipment installed > as necessary to meet the demand. > >> cell sites aren't free to install and maintain either, and often met >> with community resistance because they're ugly or the tinfoil hat crowd >> wants to protect people from the 'dangerous radiation'. >> >> for some reason, multiple telephone poles with wires between them are >> not considered ugly. > > Irrelevant to the basic question, which you are evading again. > >>> A single mobile cellsite can serve thousands of users for far lower >>> cost, so why this obsession with "airtime"? >> >> not at the same time, it can't. > > Yes it can. A cellsite can be expanded as much as necessary, just as > new landlines can be installed as necessary. The difference is the > cost of installing new landlines is hugely labour intensive and costs > far more per line than the cost of providing mobile coverage over the > same area. Actually, for CDMA, one of the big advantages was that call capacity was elastic because a cell could adjust bit rates dynamically, reducing call quality slightly to add more calls. Variable rate codecs in handsets also helped increase capacity. Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 10:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050920181049530884%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55551 |
In article <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive. except that it's already there and its costs long amortized. new developments have phone wiring installed along with electricity and plumbing.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 04:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fvan9jFkd56U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55552 |
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:050920181049530884%nospam@nospam.invalid... > In article <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me>, sms > <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > > >> Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive. > > except that it's already there and its costs long amortized. > > new developments have phone wiring installed > along with electricity and plumbing. We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 13:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmpeng$11e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55562 |
On 9/5/2018 11:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > > > "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:050920181049530884%nospam@nospam.invalid... >> In article <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me>, sms >> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive. >> >> except that it's already there and its costs long amortized. >> >> new developments have phone wiring installed >> along with electricity and plumbing. > > We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. > > There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. Well standard copper pair landline is going away, but a "landline" doesn't have to be over a copper pair. It'll be a long time before the copper goes away completely. The first step was FTTN to eliminate the need to run copper back to the Central Office, and only the last few hundred feet was copper, but now both the cable companies and the phone companies are doing FTTH. I can get fiber from either Comcast or AT&T. I have a pole in my backyard and they kept needing to come into my yard to string the fiber.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 08:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fvb3obFmvbeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55565 |
"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message news:pmpeng$11e$1@dont-email.me... > On 9/5/2018 11:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >> news:050920181049530884%nospam@nospam.invalid... >>> In article <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me>, sms >>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive. >>> >>> except that it's already there and its costs long amortized. >>> >>> new developments have phone wiring installed >>> along with electricity and plumbing. >> >> We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. >> >> There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. > > Well standard copper pair landline is going away, but a "landline" doesn't > have to be over a copper pair. Sure, but we wont be having any POTS/PSTN service at all all voip or mobile. > It'll be a long time before the copper goes away completely. Bet it will quite a while in some places. > The first step was FTTN to eliminate the need to run copper back to the > Central Office, and only the last few hundred feet was copper, It can be well over a km here. > but now both the cable companies and the phone companies are doing FTTH. We originally were going to have just that, but stupidly changed to FTTN, FTTC, HFC and fixed wireless as well. New major subdivisions are FTTH tho. > I can get fiber from either Comcast or AT&T. I have a pole in my backyard > and they kept needing to come into my yard to string the fiber. Our fiber is almost entirely underground.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 07:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmrc5b$gs0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55562 |
On 9/5/2018 11:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote: <snip> > We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. > > There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. I was talking to our sheriff (we don't have our won police force in my city) and one issue with so many people dropping landlines (whether VOIP or POTS) is that the 911 call center doesn't automatically know the address when someone calls from their cell phone. GPS location works okay for single family homes where the phone can get a GPS fix when inside, but homes with steel roofs, mobile homes, and multi-floor condos and apartment buildings are a problem. On your Android phone you can check satellites in view and signal strength and you can see how it varies. On an iPhone, you'll have to use an external GPS device <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nmea-gps/id590868529?mt=8>. Until a few years ago, the ILECs were required to provide warm line service so 911 still worked even if you didn't subscribe to POTS. A few judicious campaign contributions got that law changed. <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/07/business/la-fi-phone-911-20100707>; bad for public safety but good for AT&T, Verizon, and the legislators. I moved my POTS to Google Voice + Obi <https://www.obitalk.com/info/googlevoice> which is free, but E911 service is $1.50 per month through Callcentric. Many people still keep VOIP or POTS landlines for alarms, though there are cellular options as well (which will have to be replaced when GSM and CDMA are shutdown).
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 20:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpp336l.1lq2.g.kreme@jaka.lan> |
| In reply to | #55575 |
In message <pmrc5b$gs0$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 9/5/2018 11:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > <snip> >> We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. >> >> There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. > I was talking to our sheriff (we don't have our won police force in my > city) and one issue with so many people dropping landlines (whether VOIP > or POTS) is that the 911 call center doesn't automatically know the > address when someone calls from their cell phone. Then the 911 call center hasn't implemented the upgrade to support e911. > GPS location works e911 uses far more than just GPS. Don't know who you talked to, but they know very little. -- My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm... afraid.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 18:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmsijg$rm5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55587 |
On 9/6/2018 1:23 PM, Lewis wrote: > In message <pmrc5b$gs0$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: >> On 9/5/2018 11:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote: > >> <snip> > >>> We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. >>> >>> There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. > >> I was talking to our sheriff (we don't have our won police force in my >> city) and one issue with so many people dropping landlines (whether VOIP >> or POTS) is that the 911 call center doesn't automatically know the >> address when someone calls from their cell phone. > > Then the 911 call center hasn't implemented the upgrade to support e911. > >> GPS location works > > e911 uses far more than just GPS. Don't know who you talked to, but they > know very little. LOL, you need to educate yourself. You can begin here: <https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-15-9A1.pdf> Even when E911 requires enhanced location, it's still only required to 50 meters in the x and y axis. That's not good enough even for single story duplexes or many single family homes that are close together. 50M seems ridiculously easy until you try getting a GPS fix in some types of home construction if you're not near a window. Outside I get 5M accuracy. Inside a metal roof you may get 35M or no GPS fix at all. The z axis is another story entirely and is much more difficult. There's not even an option to register a cellular number to specific addresses. I think that this would be ideal since if the GPS location is within 50M or so of the physical address then most of the time it could be assumed to be at that physical address. Bottom line is that when you call E911 from a cell phone in an indoor location, be prepared to verbally speak the location. It's ridiculously cheap to put in a VOIP landline with E911 service if you already have broadband Internet. Currently it's $18 per year. There's some initial one-time costs: Obi Device: $50-70 UPS for cable modem/router: $50-70 (300-600VA) You can also pay to port your existing landline or cellular number to Google Voice though this isn't required.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 21:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <060920182113536873%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55591 |
In article <pmsijg$rm5$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > Even when E911 requires enhanced location, it's still only required to > 50 meters in the x and y axis. That's not good enough even for single > story duplexes or many single family homes that are close together. in addition to the link in my other post, <http://time.com/5314647/iphone-911-rapidsos/> Under the new system, iPhones will send their exact location to a RapidSOS dispatcher, which will then forward the coordinates to local emergency response centers. That should make it easier for ambulances and paramedics to reach callers and shave precious minutes off response times, potentially saving 10,000 lives per year, according to federal regulator estimates. > 50M seems ridiculously easy until you try getting a GPS fix in some > types of home construction if you're not near a window. Outside I get 5M > accuracy. Inside a metal roof you may get 35M or no GPS fix at all. then you're doing it wrong. location aware apps normally can obtain the exact gps location and reverse it to the correct address, and if there's a map view, can show which part of the property the person is at. for that reason, i've disabled location on some apps, such as weather, which doesn't need to be *that* exact. > The z axis is another story entirely and is much more difficult. no. > > You can also pay to port your existing landline or cellular number to > Google Voice though this isn't required. nor is it a particularly good idea for all sorts of reasons.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 07:02 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fvdiujF7vbmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55575 |
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> We don't anymore, just broadband, electricity, plumbing and gas. >> There is no landline phone service anymore, its all voip over broadband. > I was talking to our sheriff (we don't have our won police force in my > city) and one issue with so many people dropping landlines (whether VOIP > or POTS) is that the 911 call center doesn't automatically know the > address when someone calls from their cell phone. They do here. > GPS location works okay for single family homes where the phone can get a > GPS fix when inside, but homes with steel roofs, mobile homes, and > multi-floor condos and apartment buildings are a problem. Works fine here and I have steel roof and mostly steel and concrete block walls. > On your Android phone you can check satellites in view and signal strength > and you can see how it varies. On an iPhone, you'll have to use an > external GPS device > <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nmea-gps/id590868529?mt=8>. Don’t need to, I can see that google maps gets my location right every time. > Until a few years ago, the ILECs were required to provide warm line > service so 911 still worked even if you didn't subscribe to POTS. We've only recently had that, but its no longer relevant now that you cant have a POTS/PSTN service even if you want it now. > A few judicious campaign contributions got that law changed. > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/07/business/la-fi-phone-911-20100707>; > bad for public safety but good for AT&T, Verizon, and the legislators. > I moved my POTS to Google Voice + Obi > <https://www.obitalk.com/info/googlevoice> which is free, but E911 service > is $1.50 per month through Callcentric. Given that there is no longer any POTS/PSTN service available here, in the unlikely event that you still want one, all the broadband services provide a voip service for free. But most just use their mobile. I don’t use my voip service at all anymore unless the mobile towers are all dead and that doesn’t happen here even with an area wide mains failure and then the broadband wouldn’t be working anyway. > Many people still keep VOIP or POTS landlines for alarms, We don’t, because POTS/PSTN isnt available anymore. Mobile works fine. > though there are cellular options as well (which will have to be replaced > when GSM and CDMA are shutdown). We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G GSM has just been shut down recently here.
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| From | Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 13:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ahr4pddr3nfev5fv1333lg5t3ld50rucb2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #55588 |
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 07:02:04 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G >GSM has just been shut down recently here. Interesting. I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to another operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised CDMA lasted for such a short period of time.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 08:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmu41t$f2v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55596 |
On 9/7/2018 5:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 07:02:04 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G >> GSM has just been shut down recently here. > > Interesting. > > I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for > Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung > equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor > > That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to > another operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised > CDMA lasted for such a short period of time. CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades." <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>. 2G shut down in June 2018. <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>. Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions since GSM signals have a much shorter range. CDMA and AMPS were actually ideal for remote areas. "The reliability of the network, and its widespread coverage of about 98 per cent of the population, saw CDMA gain parochial support throughout the bush." CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage in rural areas in the U.S. as well.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 11:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <070920181109444450%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55597 |
In article <pmu41t$f2v$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage in > rural areas in the U.S. as well. no, that's not why. the reason is they updated their existing analog towers to support cdma and continued adding new towers.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 16:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmuh9v.dcg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55597 |
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote: > On 9/7/2018 5:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 07:02:04 +1000, "Rod Speed" > > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G > >> GSM has just been shut down recently here. > > > > Interesting. > > > > I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for > > Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung > > equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor > > > > That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to > > another operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised > > CDMA lasted for such a short period of time. > > CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades." > <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>. > > 2G shut down in June 2018. > <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>. > > Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions since GSM signals > have a much shorter range. CDMA and AMPS were actually ideal for remote > areas. "The reliability of the network, and its widespread coverage of > about 98 per cent of the population, saw CDMA gain parochial support > throughout the bush." The main replacement was and is Telstra's UMTS at 850MHz (not 2100Mhz). Other telcos use other frequencies in rural/outback/remote/ <whatever> regions. > CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage in > rural areas in the U.S. as well.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 05:15 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <fvg131Fn5qtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55597 |
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote > Chris in Makati wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G >>> GSM has just been shut down recently here. >> Interesting. >> I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for >> Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung >> equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor >> That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to another >> operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised CDMA >> lasted for such a short period of time. > > CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades." > <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>. > 2G shut down in June 2018. > <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>. > Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions GSM. > since GSM signals have a much shorter range. CDMA and AMPS were actually > ideal for remote areas. "The reliability of the network, and its > widespread coverage of about 98 per cent of the population, But nothing like that of the geographical area. > saw CDMA gain parochial support throughout the bush." > CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage in > rural areas in the U.S. as well.
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