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Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China

Started bysms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
First post2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
Last post2018-10-01 21:12 +0100
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  Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-13 21:23 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 01:46 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:39 -0700
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 17:27 -0400
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:09 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 19:27 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 23:56 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 18:08 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-16 21:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:16 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 02:20 +0000
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:37 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:59 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:45 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-15 09:08 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-15 12:16 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 20:43 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 13:02 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:41 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:22 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 18:38 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:09 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:14 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 18:08 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 22:46 +0000
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 16:23 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:22 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:25 +0000
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:32 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:43 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:29 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:16 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:41 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:45 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-26 11:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 10:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 20:04 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:57 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 00:26 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-20 17:39 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:46 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:22 -0700
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 15:08 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:42 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:18 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-19 17:24 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:11 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:03 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:59 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:31 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-23 17:26 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 20:53 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:31 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 10:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 13:20 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:58 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:19 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:47 -0700
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:57 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:48 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:02 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 10:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 15:15 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 20:18 -0700
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 09:41 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 13:44 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 17:28 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-29 10:16 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 17:32 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 21:01 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 09:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-30 10:59 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-08-31 12:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:32 -0400
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:41 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 07:06 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:18 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:04 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:33 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:48 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:51 +1000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 13:37 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:21 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 17:20 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 08:34 +1000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-02 08:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-02 08:23 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 09:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 10:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:12 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:11 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:06 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:59 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:28 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 14:20 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:07 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:02 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:34 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:09 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:12 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 16:28 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:36 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:28 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:31 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:24 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:15 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:50 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:14 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 07:23 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:18 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-31 09:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 13:43 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:53 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:38 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-31 17:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:20 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:11 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 11:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 13:38 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:53 +1000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 14:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:55 +1000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:18 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 10:49 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:57 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:35 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:30 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:04 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 20:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 21:13 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:02 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 13:33 +0100
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:04 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:09 -0400
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:15 +1000
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 19:26 +0000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:32 +1000
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-09-09 14:34 -0400
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-08 07:14 -0700
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:11 +1000
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 19:34 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 00:16 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Josh Nack" <klu098@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:25 +1000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:47 -0700
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 11:00 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 12:36 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:52 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:29 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:06 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 08:18 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:01 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-15 10:51 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:00 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:20 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:18 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:57 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-10-02 13:03 +0800
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:45 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:42 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 12:17 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:48 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 04:46 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Apd" <not@all.invalid> - 2018-10-01 21:12 +0100

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#55612

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-09-07 19:26 +0000
Message-ID<pmuqdb.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#55611
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
> > Chris in Makati wrote
> >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> 
> >>> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G
> >>> GSM has just been shut down recently here.
> 
> >> Interesting.
> 
> >> I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for 
> >> Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung 
> >> equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor
> 
> >> That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to another 
> >> operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised CDMA 
> >> lasted for such a short period of time.
> >
> > CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades." 
> > <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>.
> 
> > 2G shut down in June 2018. 
> > <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>.
> 
> > Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions
> 
> GSM.

  Nonsense. Where there used to be CDMA-only coverage, the replacement
- if any - was UMTS (mainly Telstra's NextG).

> > since GSM signals have a much shorter range. CDMA and AMPS were actually 
> > ideal for remote areas. "The reliability of the network, and its 
> > widespread coverage of about 98 per cent of the population,
> 
> But nothing like that of the geographical area.

  Indeed. Lies, big lies and statistics.

> > saw CDMA gain parochial support throughout the bush."
> 
> > CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage in 
> > rural areas in the U.S. as well.

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#55618

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 11:32 +1000
Message-ID<fvgn6gFrgfqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55612

"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:pmuqdb.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
>> > Chris in Makati wrote
>> >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> >>> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G
>> >>> GSM has just been shut down recently here.
>>
>> >> Interesting.
>>
>> >> I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for
>> >> Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung
>> >> equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor
>>
>> >> That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to 
>> >> another
>> >> operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised CDMA
>> >> lasted for such a short period of time.
>> >
>> > CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades."
>> > <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>.
>>
>> > 2G shut down in June 2018.
>> > <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>.
>>
>> > Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions
>>
>> GSM.
>
>  Nonsense.

We'll see...

> Where there used to be CDMA-only coverage, the
> replacement- if any - was UMTS (mainly Telstra's NextG).

Wrong, as always. There is lots of 3G and 4G there now,
regardless of what happened when the CDMA was shut down.

>>> since GSM signals have a much shorter range. CDMA and AMPS
>>> were actually ideal for remote areas. "The reliability of the network,
>>> and its widespread coverage of about 98 per cent of the population,

>> But nothing like that of the geographical area.

>  Indeed. Lies, big lies and statistics.
>
>> > saw CDMA gain parochial support throughout the bush."
>>
>> > CDMA is the reason that Verizon ended up with so much better coverage 
>> > in
>> > rural areas in the U.S. as well.
> 

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#55667

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2018-09-09 14:34 -0400
Message-ID<iJdlD.39063$8r2.34687@fx34.iad>
In reply to#55618
>>> > CDMA was shut down in Australia in 2008 (one decade ago, not "decades."
>>> > <https://www.smh.com.au/national/telstra-switching-off-cdma-network-20080428-28yk.html>.
>>>
>>> > 2G shut down in June 2018.
>>> > <https://www.vodafone.com.au/red-wire/goodbye-to-2g>.
>>>
>>> > Not clear what replaced CDMA in the remote regions
>>>
>>> GSM.
>>
>>  Nonsense.



CDMA was deployed relatively late in Australia to cover rural regions
because GSM 2G had tdma air interface with a 30km range limit. ( with
time division, signal had to travel; and reach destination within the
short allocated time slot, otherwise it was assumed to come from another
phone)

CDMA which used a cdma air interface did not have that hard 30km limit.
In flat areas, this makes a difference.

When GMS went 3G, it adopted a cdma air interface for the GSM protocols
and this eliminated the distance/range limitations that GSM 2G had.

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#55623

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-09-08 07:14 -0700
Message-ID<pn0lg3$v5n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55612
On 9/7/2018 12:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    Nonsense. Where there used to be CDMA-only coverage, the replacement
> - if any - was UMTS (mainly Telstra's NextG).

Unfortunately, while NextG offers much faster data speeds than CDMA 
offerred, the rural coverage decreased dramatically.

The sentiment has been that CDMA was preferred in terms of making a 
simple phone call, but that NextG is preferred for data usage. The 
problem is that NextG coverage is poorer than CDMA coverage was.

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#55624

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-09-08 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<pn114t.6gk.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#55623
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/2018 12:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    Nonsense. Where there used to be CDMA-only coverage, the replacement
> > - if any - was UMTS (mainly Telstra's NextG).
> 
> Unfortunately, while NextG offers much faster data speeds than CDMA 
> offerred, the rural coverage decreased dramatically.
> 
> The sentiment has been that CDMA was preferred in terms of making a 
> simple phone call, but that NextG is preferred for data usage. The 
> problem is that NextG coverage is poorer than CDMA coverage was.

  That's not my experince, but heh, I've only been several (about three)
times 'around the world' in Oz, most of it in 'rural' (/outback/bush/
remote/<whatever>) areas, so what do I know!?

  Just kidding. I only have practical experience with NextG coverage
and only thereoretical (i.e. coverage maps/listings) experience with
CDMA.

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#55598

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-09-07 15:04 +0000
Message-ID<pmub2s.54s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#55596
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 07:02:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G
> >GSM has just been shut down recently here. 
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange network for
> Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, and used Samsung
> equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor
> 
> That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold Orange to
> another operator not so long after it was completed, but I'm surprised
> CDMA lasted for such a short period of time.

  It is not 'decades ago', it's one decade ago, April 2008.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks#Asia_&_Oceania>

  (I bought my first Australian UMTS phone in early 2009.)

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#55610

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 05:11 +1000
Message-ID<fvg0qkFn4c6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55596
Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote 
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> We shut down CDMA decades ago and 2G
>> GSM has just been shut down recently here. 
 
> Interesting.
 
> I was working with Samsung when they installed the Orange 
> network for Hutchison in Sydney and Melbourne. That was CDMA, 
> and used Samsung equipment. Samsung were the prime contractor
 
> That was around the beginning of 2000. I know they sold 
> Orange to another operator not so long after it was completed, 
> but I'm surprised CDMA lasted for such a short period of time.

The primary CDMA network was Telstra's.  

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#55589

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-09-06 19:34 -0400
Message-ID<060920181934540556%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55575
In article <pmrc5b$gs0$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> I was talking to our sheriff (we don't have our won police force in my 
> city) and one issue with so many people dropping landlines (whether VOIP 
> or POTS) is that the 911 call center doesn't automatically know the 
> address when someone calls from their cell phone. 

<https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/06/apple-ios-12-securely-and-automa
tically-shares-emergency-location-with-911/>
  Nashville, Tennessee ‹ iPhone users in the United States who call 911
  will be able to automatically and securely share their location data
  with first responders beginning later this year with iOS 12,
  providing faster and more accurate information to help reduce
  emergency response times.
...
  The FCC requires carriers to locate callers to within 50 meters at
  least 80 percent of the time by 2021. iOS location services are
  capable of exceeding this requirement today, even in challenging,
  dense, urban environments. This new feature allows Apple to make
  these benefits available to local 911 centers now rather than years
  from now.

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#55569

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2018-09-06 01:34 +0000
Message-ID<slrnpp110n.1udc.g.kreme@Snow.local>
In reply to#55552
In message <050920181049530884%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <pmoojv$849$1@dont-email.me>, sms
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:


>> Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive.

> except that it's already there and its costs long amortized.

> new developments have phone wiring installed along with electricity and
> plumbing.

Do they still?

No one I know who has bought a house in the last 5 years has gotten POTS
in their home, and that is more than a handful of people.

If it's not already going away, I expect it will be soon.

-- 
I'll trade you 223 Wesley Crushers for your Captain Picard

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#55571

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-09-06 00:16 -0400
Message-ID<060920180016412615%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55569
In article <slrnpp110n.1udc.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> Landline capacity expansion is incredibly expensive.
> 
> > except that it's already there and its costs long amortized.
> 
> > new developments have phone wiring installed along with electricity and
> > plumbing.
> 
> Do they still?

yes. 

> No one I know who has bought a house in the last 5 years has gotten POTS
> in their home, and that is more than a handful of people.

it's true that most people are ditching landlines for mobile, but they
can still get landline service if they really wanted it.

> If it's not already going away, I expect it will be soon.

it will become less common but there are still reasons for it to exist.

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#55335

From"Josh Nack" <klu098@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 05:25 +1000
Message-ID<futjefFu4lqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55310

"Chris in Makati" <mail@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:rdhiodlimppig8jt66sn3k04k8b38j7srb@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:06:44 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <24udodlsfkjtdunipf6fiq403sahlshh0v@4ax.com>, Chris in
>>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >the issue is that the caller should not pay *extra* for the call
>>> >because of the type of phone the recipient chooses to use, something
>>> >which the caller has absolutely no control over.
>>>
>>> YOU pay for the call YOU have chosen to make. That's how it works with
>>> every other type of phone call and everything else YOU choose to
>>> purchase.
>>
>>exactly, and *you* pay for the airtime that *you* choose to use.
>>
>>calls made to or from landlines aren't using any airtime, therefore
>>there are no airtime fees.
>
> Why should there only be a charge for using airtime and not for line
> usage? Installing landlines for phones is very labor intensive and
> much more expensive than providing a radio signal for a mobile.
>
> You make the call, you pay for it. It's a simple principle that has
> been around for decades.

Its not that simple and hasn't been for decades with the free local
calls that were so all pervasive in the USA. And that's all changed
even more now with unlimited calls and texts and MMSs to any
landline or mobile in the country and for just $10/month now.
Much cheaper after inflation than landlines used to be. 

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#55138

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-08-25 10:47 -0700
Message-ID<pls4o3$70f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55129
On 8/25/2018 10:14 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

<snip>

>    Charging for (domestic) incoming texts (and calls) is a US-only thing.
> 
>    The rest of the world doesn't have such silly practices.

I wonder if there is even a way for these foreign carriers to charge for 
incoming texts. They just aren't set up for that kind of accounting.

There is also the "caller-pays" for voice calls that is present in so 
many European countries. Some of the prepaid SIM cards take full 
advantage of this system with their automatic call back.

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#55119

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
Message-ID<5ff2od59ggba74v9m0viugddh32grnlkg8@4ax.com>
In reply to#55090
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:28:02 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <1iq0oddpo4bacd2k7vo7jv2ai6kt4vk0qh@4ax.com>, Chris in
>Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> >>  Texts
>> >> RECEIVED on your phone while you are roaming are free of charge, as
>> >> they are everywhere.
>> >
>> >receiving texts is not free everywhere.
>> 
>> Yes it is. You're talking out of  your ass again. Get out of your
>> mom's basement and into the real world to find out how things really
>> work.
>
>take your own advice. 
>
>there are carriers who charge for *incoming* texts, including t-mobile:
><https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4826>
>  € You get a combined total of 30 minutes of calls or text messages
>  per month.
>  € Additional outgoing/incoming calls or texts are $0.10 each.

Do try to keep up with the thread.

We were not talking about OTHER carriers. Lewis specifically made
reference to using a UK SIM card in India and claimed that incoming
SMS messages would be charged for.

In response to that specific message I said.

"That's for SENDING texts to the UK while you're roaming. Texts
RECEIVED on your phone while you are roaming are free of charge, as
they are everywhere."

You then poked your nose in, cut out the reference to using a UK SIM
card, and tried to twist the context around to using other carriers.

Once again, if you use a UK SIM card while roaming you do not pay for
incoming SMS message. In fact most other networks in the world operate
on that basis. The only networks I'm aware of that differ from that
are American and Colombian. Nobody else charges for incoming SMS.

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#55059

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-08-24 11:00 +0000
Message-ID<plovge.974.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#55049
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <pln1tf.avo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
> >> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > > And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
> >> > 
> >> > s/normal/dumb/
> >> > 
> >> >   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
> >> > nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
> >> 
> >> sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge,
> 
> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
> > Comprehension 101:]
> 
> >   They *are* free of charge in most of the real/civilized world, i.e.
> > outside your US-centric bubble.
> 
> If you are in India with a UK SIM then no, the texts and calls to your
> UK number are not free, they are very very expensive.

[Rewind/repeat:]

> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
> > Comprehension 101:]

  Apparently my assumption was misplaced. See Chris' response.

> Calling a UK number while in India costs 2 pounds a minute on Three, and
> each text to the UK is 35p. Incoming calls are 1 pound 25p and data use
> is 3 pounds per MEGABYTE.
> 
> <http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Mobile_Roaming?content_aid=1214306363631>

  Which proves *our* point.

  QED.

  HTH. HAND. EOD. NL.

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#55065

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-08-24 12:36 +0000
Message-ID<plou56$90r$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55059
On 24 Aug 2018 04:00:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   Which proves *our* point.

I didn't read the reference because I believe what Frank Slootweg said.
If true that Lewis' reference disproved his own point, it wouldn't be the
first time since this habit of quoting references that disprove what they
think it says, is a common trait of the Apple Apologists.

What amazes me is that Jolly Roger, Lewis, and just yesterday, nospam,
quote references when confronted which don't even back up their points.

While their credibility is worthless, what is odd is that they can't seem
to comprehend what their references actually say.

Just like Snit's video doesn't show what they think it shows.
 <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

And just as Jolly Roger's video doesn't show what he thinks it shows:
 <http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/usenet/ios-voice-recordings/uploadfiles_test.mp4>

And nospam's reference yesterday doesn't show what he thinks it shows:
 <http://www.wireless2020.com/media/images/W2020_1.jpg>

*It's amazing that their own references directly refute their statements!*

Whenever I see that from these classic Apple Apologists, I have to ask:
a. Are they really _that_ dumb to not even _understand_ their own cites?
b. Or are they simply hoping that we are?

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#55075

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2018-08-24 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnpo0kvs.qmf.g.kreme@jaka.lan>
In reply to#55059
In message <plovge.974.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <pln1tf.avo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> >> In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
>> >> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > > And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
>> >> > 
>> >> > s/normal/dumb/
>> >> > 
>> >> >   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
>> >> > nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
>> >> 
>> >> sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge,
>> 
>> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
>> > Comprehension 101:]
>> 
>> >   They *are* free of charge in most of the real/civilized world, i.e.
>> > outside your US-centric bubble.
>> 
>> If you are in India with a UK SIM then no, the texts and calls to your
>> UK number are not free, they are very very expensive.

> [Rewind/repeat:]

>> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
>> > Comprehension 101:]

>   Apparently my assumption was misplaced. See Chris' response.

>> Calling a UK number while in India costs 2 pounds a minute on Three, and
>> each text to the UK is 35p. Incoming calls are 1 pound 25p and data use
>> is 3 pounds per MEGABYTE.
>> 
>> <http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Mobile_Roaming?content_aid=1214306363631>

>   Which proves *our* point.

You said they are free, they are not. If you leave you UK SIM in your
phone in India, and you get a text, you will pay 35p. If you get a call,
you will pay £1.25 per minute. the only way to avoid that is to disable
your UK SIM or remove it from a phone. Having a dual-SIM phone would
only cost you much much more money.

>   QED.

You obviously have no idea what that means, since you have failed to
prove anything at all.

-- 
A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.

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#55085

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-08-24 19:29 +0000
Message-ID<plptb1.5ko.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#55075
[Disclaimer: I said 'EOD', but because I'm such a nice guy, ...]

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <plovge.974.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> In message <pln1tf.avo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
> >> >> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > > And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > s/normal/dumb/
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
> >> >> > nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
> >> >> 
> >> >> sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge,
> >> 
> >> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
> >> > Comprehension 101:]
> >> 
> >> >   They *are* free of charge in most of the real/civilized world, i.e.
> >> > outside your US-centric bubble.
> >> 
> >> If you are in India with a UK SIM then no, the texts and calls to your
> >> UK number are not free, they are very very expensive.
> 
> > [Rewind/repeat:]
> 
> >> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
> >> > Comprehension 101:]
> 
> >   Apparently my assumption was misplaced. See Chris' response.
> 
> >> Calling a UK number while in India costs 2 pounds a minute on Three, and
> >> each text to the UK is 35p. Incoming calls are 1 pound 25p and data use
> >> is 3 pounds per MEGABYTE.
> >> 
> >> <http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Mobile_Roaming?content_aid=1214306363631>
> 
> >   Which proves *our* point.
> 
> You said they are free, they are not. If you leave you UK SIM in your
> phone in India, and you get a text, you will pay 35p.

  Nope:

  "Receiving texts from any number.		Free."

>						        If you get a call,
> you will pay £1.25 per minute. the only way to avoid that is to disable
> your UK SIM or remove it from a phone. Having a dual-SIM phone would
> only cost you much much more money.

  Read once more what I *actually* wrote, not what you *think* I wrote:

<quote>

> >> >> >   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
> >> >> > nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.

</quote>

> >   QED.
> 
> You obviously have no idea what that means, since you have failed to
> prove anything at all.

  Says the one who can't read for comprehension, including his own
references.

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#55087

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
Message-ID<acq0od9jdunpp3iffrkeugvg0rfp3ia6ju@4ax.com>
In reply to#55075
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:52:44 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <plovge.974.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <pln1tf.avo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> >> In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
>>> >> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>> >> 
>>> >> > > And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
>>> >> > 
>>> >> > s/normal/dumb/
>>> >> > 
>>> >> >   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
>>> >> > nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
>>> >> 
>>> >> sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge,
>>> 
>>> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
>>> > Comprehension 101:]
>>> 
>>> >   They *are* free of charge in most of the real/civilized world, i.e.
>>> > outside your US-centric bubble.
>>> 
>>> If you are in India with a UK SIM then no, the texts and calls to your
>>> UK number are not free, they are very very expensive.
>
>> [Rewind/repeat:]
>
>>> > [Assuming that this is not yet another case of failing Reading for
>>> > Comprehension 101:]
>
>>   Apparently my assumption was misplaced. See Chris' response.
>
>>> Calling a UK number while in India costs 2 pounds a minute on Three, and
>>> each text to the UK is 35p. Incoming calls are 1 pound 25p and data use
>>> is 3 pounds per MEGABYTE.
>>> 
>>> <http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Mobile_Roaming?content_aid=1214306363631>
>
>>   Which proves *our* point.
>
>You said they are free, they are not. If you leave you UK SIM in your
>phone in India, and you get a text, you will pay 35p. 

No you won't.

I've been to India plenty of times and incoming SMS messages are free
when roaming with a UK SIM card. None of the UK networks charge for
incoming SMS anywhere in the world, and neither do the vast majority
of other networks.

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#55055

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
Message-ID<enjvndp4chb04cugkgiljlk8j3ajtuhfsp@4ax.com>
In reply to#55024
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:15:21 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
><this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
>> 
>> s/normal/dumb/
>> 
>>   Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
>> nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
>
>sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge, plus most people
>have switched to messaging apps, which also do a lot more.

SMS messages are free to receive while roaming with almost every
network. I've been using mobile phones in dozens of countries around
the world since 1994 and I have NEVER been charged for an incoming SMS
while roaming.

See what I mean about you needing to get some real life world
experience before you get involved in discussion that are out of your
depth. No insult intended.

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#55062

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2018-08-24 05:06 -0700
Message-ID<plosbj$skh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55055
On 8/24/2018 2:35 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:15:21 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> In article <plm9jp.aqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
>> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> And normal people simple replace the SIM when they are in Australia.
>>>
>>> s/normal/dumb/
>>>
>>>    Because then they wouldn't get any SMS sent to their 'home' number,
>>> nor hear/see calls to that number, which both would be free of charge.
>>
>> sms and calls while roaming are rarely free of charge, plus most people
>> have switched to messaging apps, which also do a lot more.
> 
> SMS messages are free to receive while roaming with almost every
> network. I've been using mobile phones in dozens of countries around
> the world since 1994 and I have NEVER been charged for an incoming SMS
> while roaming.

That is true with most prepaid country-specific SIM cards and many 
prepaid global SIM cards. Incoming calls are also often free, or charged 
at low rates, due to "caller pays." However this has led to some abusive 
practices, with some global SIM cards assigning phone numbers in 
countries which cost a lot to call, especially Estonia. One of the 
lowest cost international long distance services charges 36.5¢ to call a 
mobile phone in Estonia, while calling a mobile phone in Germany is 
5.2¢, U.K. is 2.3¢, and China is 1.2¢.

Inside China, a lot of people use WeChat instead of SMS, and in India 
WhatsApp is most popular. In the U.S., these messaging apps have not 
been as popular for general use. I'm on WeChat and WhatsApp because my 
Chinese and Indian colleagues use them.

> See what I mean about you needing to get some real life world
> experience before you get involved in discussion that are out of your
> depth. No insult intended.

Those that don't travel outside their home country simply do not 
understand that the whole world is not the same as the U.S.. And it 
doesn't have to be expensive to travel to most countries if you get over 
the need to stay in expensive hotels.

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