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Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy

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First post2018-08-31 01:36 +0000
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  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 01:36 +0000
    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 05:13 -0700
      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 09:00 -0400
        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 15:23 +0000
      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 15:03 +0000
        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 12:36 -0700
          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 15:49 -0400
          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-31 20:12 +0000
            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 14:26 -0700
          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 20:34 +0000
            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-31 21:19 +0000
                Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 19:18 -0700
                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 22:31 -0400
                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-03 22:58 +0000
                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-01 14:52 +0000
                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 12:02 -0400
                      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-01 19:37 +0000
            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 14:12 -0700
              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 17:14 -0400
          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 10:05 -0400
            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 07:19 -0700
              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-01 15:15 +0000
                Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 12:02 -0400
                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:44 -0700
                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-01 19:37 +0000
                      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-02 11:56 -0400
                        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 09:21 -0700
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-02 12:34 -0400
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:10 +0000
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-09-02 09:54 -0700
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:46 -0700
                              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-03 09:11 +1200
                                Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 15:12 -0700
                                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2018-09-03 06:44 +0100
                              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-03 23:03 +0000
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:16 +0000
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:07 -0400
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 10:30 -0700
                              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:28 +0000
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:23 +0000
                              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Wolffan <akwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 08:23 -0400
                                Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-03 07:57 -0700
                                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 21:23 +0000
                                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 14:49 -0700
                                      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 22:20 +0000
                                        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 15:59 -0700
                                      Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-04 13:45 +1200
                                        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-04 02:29 +0000
                                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-04 20:49 -0700
                                        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-09-03 23:17 -0700
                                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 22:03 +0000
                                Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 21:23 +0000
                                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2018-09-03 16:54 -0500
                                    Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 22:10 +0000
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-03 23:05 +0000
                              Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 23:16 +0000
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:17 +0000
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:01 -0700
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-09-03 11:45 -0400
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 21:42 +0000
                        Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 05:30 +1000
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2018-09-02 21:09 -0400
                            Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:38 +0000
                          Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-03 05:34 +0000
                  Re: iPhone upgrade timing/strategy Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-01 19:37 +0000

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#55488

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2018-09-03 11:45 -0400
Message-ID<6GcjD.30605$YL3.11838@fx48.iad>
In reply to#55459
On 2018-09-02 12:21, Savageduck wrote:

> Strange, I live in San Luis Obispo County, CA, and every school bus around 
> here is traditional school bus yellow, even those run by less affluent school 
> districts. There must be something odd happening with Santa Clara County 
> schools.

I know that in Montréal, the STM (public transit) has "chartered" buses
that serve some schools. They are in standard STM livery and no special
signs. They wait at school to pickup kids and then drive to rejoin a
normal bus route after which they make regular stops.  (This would be
high school kids who can walk home from a bus stop).


It is possible that some areas are low on "official" school buses and
have to lease normal buses to provide service until more yellow buses
are acquired.

The Yellow school buses have specil traffic rules (for instance, when
one ins stopped, you can't pass it on left).  So a non-yellow bus
carrying kids would not be protecting kids who cross the street after
getting off the bus.

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#55496

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-03 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<pmk9sb$i5i$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55488
On 3 Sep 2018 08:45:06 GMT, JF Mezei wrote:

> I know that in Montréal, the STM (public transit) has "chartered" buses
> that serve some schools.

My point about the lack of free public school buses in California was that 
it supports my hypothesis that Californians aren't normal people.

Would parents in any other state put up with having to drive their kids to 
school in the morning, and, far worse (in terms of schedule), then wait for 
school to let out so that they can pick them up in the middle of the day, 
every single day?

The fact that this fact is common in California (at least in the Silicon 
Valley it is), means, to me, that Californians put up with bullshit from 
the government that, I posit, most adults in other states wouldn't put up 
with.

> They are in standard STM livery and no special
> signs. They wait at school to pickup kids and then drive to rejoin a
> normal bus route after which they make regular stops.  (This would be
> high school kids who can walk home from a bus stop).

Here, there are one or two high schools per town, where the "walk" to and 
from that high school could be ten or more miles - although they could 
arrange a much closer bus stop (which would be normal for any other state).

But in all the Silicon Valley school districts I've lived in, they offer 
*zero* free public transportation for *any* normal child (K-12).

As I said, special needs children are different because the federal 
government - I'm told - subsidizes their school-based transportation. 

If someone can find a California school district that provides free public 
school transportation, I'd love to know what school district that is.

Note: In California, the "school district" is "gerrymandered" in so much as 
it doesn't follow the same borders as do the towns. They "somewhat" follow 
those borders in the Silicon Valley - but they're not at all the same as 
the town borders. (Why? I don't know why.)

Do the town and school district borders line up in other states?

> It is possible that some areas are low on "official" school buses and
> have to lease normal buses to provide service until more yellow buses
> are acquired.

What really matters, since any one town may be culturally different than 
others, is what is the general trend.

As far as I can tell, the general trend in California is to NOT provide 
free public school transportation for normal kids (K-12).

If anyone knows of a school district in California that does provide free 
public school transportation for normal kids, let me know.

*My main point is that Californians are different from normal people.*

> The Yellow school buses have specil traffic rules (for instance, when
> one ins stopped, you can't pass it on left).  So a non-yellow bus
> carrying kids would not be protecting kids who cross the street after
> getting off the bus.

Yes. I apologize if the color "yellow" became a hot issue when the only 
reason I used the word "yellow" was to signify the "typical" look of the 
typical free public school bus (which should be something that any parent 
in any other state would recognize instantly by its markings).

The point is that I can't think of any other state where the parents would 
put up with this bullshit that the school district doesn't provide free 
public school bus transportation.

Savageduck says that some school districts in California might actually 
provide that free yellow public school bus - but I don't know of any.

Does anyone here know of a CA school district with free school buses?

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#55469

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-03 05:30 +1000
Message-ID<fv2s23F1tedU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55457

"YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote in message 
news:pmh18a$1mo5$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> On 9/1/18 3:37 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> On 1 Sep 2018 09:44:57 GMT, 123456789 wrote:
>>
>>> We Zonies (what Californians call AZ tourists) have a 101 and also call
>>> it "the 101". And I take "the 10" and "the 8" when I visit and pay those
>>> exorbitant CA taxes...
>>
>> Please visit more often, as the California state sales tax is 
>> stupendously
>> high, so you can help defray our costs.
>>
>> In addition, the hotel taxes are astronomical, so do stay at a hotel.
>>
>> And, I've found, a taxi that originates from an airport costs more than 
>> the
>> exact same taxi ride that doesn't originate from the airport - so use the
>> taxi please!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> (You gotta love a state that taxes you even when you never owe them a 
>> cent,
>> which only NY and CA do - and CA does it hugely more than NY which only
>> taxes you $100 when you don't owe them money but file income taxes late).
>>
>> You also gotta love a state that sales taxes the salles tax on top of 
>> both
>> tires and soda bottles. In the case of soda bottles, if you paid, say, 
>> $100
>> in the year for the CRV, you only get back about $90 because California
>> *taxes* the CRV!
>>
>> Likewise, you pay a sales tax to buy a tire, and then you pay *another*
>> sales tax on that same tire when you bring it in for disposal!
>>
>> They also have a sales tax on phones that you get for free - yup - you 
>> pay
>> about $70 sales tax on a free $700 phone even though you get the phone 
>> for
>> free (of course, you're paying for the phone internally in your contract
>> but *that* is taxed also!).
>>
>> Any state that can have consistently the highest taxes in the nation
>> deserves notice - especially since it's the only state I know of that is
>> too poor to afford yellow school buses.
>>
>> QUESTION:
>> Is there any other state other than California that is too poor to afford
>> yellow school buses?
>
> Why don't you move then?

No other state will let him move there. 

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#55474

FromYK <xxxxx@dialme.com>
Date2018-09-02 21:09 -0400
Message-ID<c35f3d39-f240-e1f7-b1cf-ad1ea79a0e7c@dialme.com>
In reply to#55469
On 9/2/18 3:30 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> 
> 
> "YK" <xxxxx@dialme.com> wrote in message 
> news:pmh18a$1mo5$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>> On 9/1/18 3:37 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On 1 Sep 2018 09:44:57 GMT, 123456789 wrote:
>>>
>>>> We Zonies (what Californians call AZ tourists) have a 101 and also call
>>>> it "the 101". And I take "the 10" and "the 8" when I visit and pay 
>>>> those
>>>> exorbitant CA taxes...
>>>
>>> Please visit more often, as the California state sales tax is 
>>> stupendously
>>> high, so you can help defray our costs.
>>>
>>> In addition, the hotel taxes are astronomical, so do stay at a hotel.
>>>
>>> And, I've found, a taxi that originates from an airport costs more 
>>> than the
>>> exact same taxi ride that doesn't originate from the airport - so use 
>>> the
>>> taxi please!
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> (You gotta love a state that taxes you even when you never owe them a 
>>> cent,
>>> which only NY and CA do - and CA does it hugely more than NY which only
>>> taxes you $100 when you don't owe them money but file income taxes 
>>> late).
>>>
>>> You also gotta love a state that sales taxes the salles tax on top of 
>>> both
>>> tires and soda bottles. In the case of soda bottles, if you paid, 
>>> say, $100
>>> in the year for the CRV, you only get back about $90 because California
>>> *taxes* the CRV!
>>>
>>> Likewise, you pay a sales tax to buy a tire, and then you pay *another*
>>> sales tax on that same tire when you bring it in for disposal!
>>>
>>> They also have a sales tax on phones that you get for free - yup - 
>>> you pay
>>> about $70 sales tax on a free $700 phone even though you get the 
>>> phone for
>>> free (of course, you're paying for the phone internally in your contract
>>> but *that* is taxed also!).
>>>
>>> Any state that can have consistently the highest taxes in the nation
>>> deserves notice - especially since it's the only state I know of that is
>>> too poor to afford yellow school buses.
>>>
>>> QUESTION:
>>> Is there any other state other than California that is too poor to 
>>> afford
>>> yellow school buses?
>>
>> Why don't you move then?
> 
> No other state will let him move there.

Yeah, he is probably wanted in the other 49 states anyhow. He certainly 
is intent on proving he knows more than anyone else.

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#55482

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-03 05:38 +0000
Message-ID<pmihc3$ruu$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55474
On 2 Sep 2018 18:09:19 GMT, YK wrote:

> Yeah, he is probably wanted in the other 49 states anyhow. He certainly 
> is intent on proving he knows more than anyone else.

Tell us all what erudite value you possess, YK?

What's so sad about most of you Apple users is that you're so incredibly
stupid that you think a childish joke that which Savageduck revels in is
funny.

You're _that_ stupid.

I'm only average in intelligence and yet, I tower over almost all of you.
The only ones who come close are David Empson, sms, and a few others.

Sometimes Rod Speed shows intelligence. 
Even nospam, on extremely rare occasions exhibits traits of intelligence.

Lewis? Never.
Savageduck? It's beyond his comprehension.
Jolly Roger? Impossible. (There's nobody dumber than Jolly Roger.)

You YK?
Show us your intelligence.

Post something intelligent.

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#55481

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-03 05:34 +0000
Message-ID<pmih4h$rhb$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55469
On 2 Sep 2018 12:30:05 GMT, Rod Speed wrote:

> No other state will let him move there.

Rod Speed,
I thought you had brains.

If you're going to make a joke, at least make it funny or witty.

The only ones applauding your sophomoric joke are idiots like Savageduck.

And he's so stupid that he rivals Jolly Roger & Lewis in stupidity.

HINT: Savageduck yet again proves he possesses the mind of a child
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/AxDiTgaej0k/jh0R7CgxBQAJ>

The sad thing is that most of you Apple Apologists are utter morons.
I was hoping you, Rod Speed, of all people, wasn't a moron.

But maybe you are.
Because your "joke" is that of a child.

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#55423

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-01 19:37 +0000
Message-ID<pmepp2$uer$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#55410
On 1 Sep 2018 09:02:15 GMT, nospam wrote:

>> Note: Californians tend to use the word "the" in front of "101" 
> 
> that's mostly a southern california thing, less so in the bay area,
> except for the transplants who moved up from socal.

It was weird the first times I heard it, but you're right that it's not
everyone who uses "the" in front of a highway name (um, freeway name).

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