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Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China

Started bysms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
First post2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
Last post2018-10-01 21:12 +0100
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  Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-13 18:07 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-13 21:23 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 01:46 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:39 -0700
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 17:27 -0400
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:09 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 19:27 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 23:56 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 18:08 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-16 21:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:16 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-14 02:20 +0000
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 12:37 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-14 15:47 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:59 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:45 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-15 09:08 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-15 12:16 -0400
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 20:43 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 13:02 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 15:41 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:22 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 18:38 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 07:09 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:14 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 15:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 18:08 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 22:46 +0000
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-25 16:23 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:22 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 05:25 +0000
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:32 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:43 -0700
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:29 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:16 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:41 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:45 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-26 11:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 10:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-08-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-26 20:04 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-26 07:57 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 00:26 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-20 17:39 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:46 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:22 -0700
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:23 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 15:08 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 12:42 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:18 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 21:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 16:46 -0400
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 17:36 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-19 17:24 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:11 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:03 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:59 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:31 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-23 17:26 -0700
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 20:53 -0400
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:31 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 10:56 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 13:20 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:58 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:19 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 04:47 -0700
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:57 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:48 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 -0700
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-23 00:02 +0000
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-23 09:59 +0100
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 10:50 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:04 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 15:15 -0700
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:25 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-24 20:18 -0700
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 09:55 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 09:46 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 09:41 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 13:44 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-28 17:28 -0700
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-29 10:16 +0000
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 11:48 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 17:32 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-29 21:01 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 09:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-30 10:59 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-08-31 12:21 -0700
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:32 -0400
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:41 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-01 07:06 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:18 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:43 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:04 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 09:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:33 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:48 +1000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:51 +1000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 14:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 13:37 -0400
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:21 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 17:20 -0400
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 15:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 08:34 +1000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-02 08:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-02 08:23 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-02 09:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 10:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:12 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:11 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 05:06 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:59 -0700
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:28 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 14:20 -0400
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-08-25 12:09 -0700
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 15:39 -0400
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:07 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 19:02 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:34 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 12:28 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 10:15 -0400
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 15:26 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 14:09 -0400
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:12 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-23 16:28 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:36 +0000
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-23 17:28 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 20:31 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 05:24 +0000
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:15 -0700
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 09:35 -0400
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-24 17:28 -0400
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 22:59 +0000
                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 17:50 -0700
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-25 01:05 +0000
                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-25 17:14 +0000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-25 13:30 -0400
                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:07 +0100
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-28 07:23 -0700
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:18 -0700
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-08-31 09:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:30 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 13:43 -0700
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:49 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 16:53 -0700
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-01 09:38 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 13:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-31 17:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 15:20 -0700
                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-28 10:57 -0400
                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 21:18 +0100
                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-29 23:06 -0400
                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-31 07:11 -0700
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 10:44 -0400
                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 12:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 11:58 +0000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-05 13:38 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:53 +1000
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 14:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 14:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 09:15 -0400
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:55 +1000
                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:18 -0700
                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 10:49 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 04:57 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:35 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:30 +1000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:04 -0700
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 20:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 21:13 -0400
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 07:02 +1000
                                                                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 13:33 +0100
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-07 08:04 -0700
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 11:09 -0400
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 16:50 +0000
                                                                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:15 +1000
                                                                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 19:26 +0000
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 11:32 +1000
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-09-09 14:34 -0400
                                                                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-08 07:14 -0700
                                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 05:11 +1000
                                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 19:34 -0400
                                                            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-06 01:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 00:16 -0400
                                                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Josh Nack" <klu098@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 05:25 +1000
                                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-25 10:47 -0700
                              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-25 12:31 +0100
                      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 11:00 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-24 12:36 +0000
                        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-24 18:52 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-08-24 19:29 +0000
                          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 21:33 +0100
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-24 10:35 +0100
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-24 05:06 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 08:18 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-14 22:10 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-14 16:01 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-08-15 10:51 +0100
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:00 -0700
    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 08:20 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 17:18 +0000
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-01 10:57 -0700
        Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2018-10-02 13:03 +0800
          Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:45 +0000
            Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 07:42 -0700
              Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 17:33 +0000
                Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-02 12:17 -0700
                  Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 07:48 +0000
                    Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-03 04:46 -0700
      Re: Data-Only SIMS, Google Voice, SMS Forwarding, and WeChat in China "Apd" <not@all.invalid> - 2018-10-01 21:12 +0100

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#55559

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-06 04:51 +1000
Message-ID<fvamt2FkavdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55539

"Chris in Makati" <mail@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:ug8vod5m4otd8rj3k3njp3cvsp9fnfq6s1@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 05:33:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> In fast food restaurants, employees have to change gloves every time 
>>>> they
>>>> go between food prep and collecting cash--
>>
>>A few of ours wont accept cash anymore, only cards.
>
> Buses here in London won't accept cash either.
>
> You have to pay with a contactless card, Apple Pay, Android Pay etc.,
> or use one of their prepaid "Oyster" payment cards.

Yeah, same here in australia. 

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#55432

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 13:16 -0700
Message-ID<pmes2r$f5a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55413
On 09/01/2018 09:14 AM, 123456789 wrote:
> On 9/1/2018 7:06 AM, sms wrote:
>> On 9/1/2018 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2018-09-01 08:55, sms wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>
>>>> Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the
>>>> least expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢
>>>> per gallon
>
> The lines at my two Costco stations are often 3 to 5 cars deep. Shades
> of the old gas shortages. Life is too short.

You just have to get there before the store opens.  Every Costco station 
I've seen opens at 6am.

>> The goal of the cashback is to get consumers to run up credit card
>> debt.
>
> Requires some fortitude to pay the balance every month. The CC companies
> are betting otherwise.

They lose with me, then!

>> Using a credit card to pay is also respectful of the other customers
>> in line behind you since it's much faster than a cash transaction.

UNLESS their card gets refused.  In a good system a trapdoor would open 
beneath the offending customer.  Big sign saying WE USE A FISCAL 
RESPONSIBILITY SYSTEM with an appropriate picture at each register.   It 
could work.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
                                                 -- S. Brown

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#55440

From123456789 <12345@12345.com>
Date2018-09-01 14:36 -0700
Message-ID<pmf0oh$904$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55432
On 9/1/2018 1:16 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 09/01/2018 09:14 AM, 123456789 wrote:

>> The lines at my two Costco stations are often 3 to 5 cars deep.
>> Shades of the old gas shortages. Life is too short.
>
> You just have to get there before the store opens.  Every Costco
> station I've seen opens at 6am.

Me getting up at 6AM to get gas??? Bwhahahahahahahahah...

>> Requires some fortitude to pay the balance every month. The CC
>> companies are betting otherwise.

> They lose with me, then!

I'm getting near $1K back a year. I call that a WIN.

>>> Using a credit card to pay is also respectful of the other
>>> customers in line behind you since it's much faster than a cash
>>> transaction.
>
> UNLESS their card gets refused.

A refused card has been very seldom for me. Much more often is the lady
ahead who has to hunt down her coupons while we all wait...

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#55442

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<pmf1v2$gjc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55440
On 09/01/2018 02:36 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> On 9/1/2018 1:16 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 09/01/2018 09:14 AM, 123456789 wrote:
>
>>> The lines at my two Costco stations are often 3 to 5 cars deep.
>>> Shades of the old gas shortages. Life is too short.
>>
>> You just have to get there before the store opens.  Every Costco
>> station I've seen opens at 6am.

Of course not.  Just get there half an hour before the store opens.

> Me getting up at 6AM to get gas??? Bwhahahahahahahahah...
>
>>> Requires some fortitude to pay the balance every month. The CC
>>> companies are betting otherwise.
>
>> They lose with me, then!

I ALWAYS pay full balance.

> I'm getting near $1K back a year. I call that a WIN.

No idea how much I get back.  Multiple cards, probably less than $100 
each.  Still, free money is free money!

>>>> Using a credit card to pay is also respectful of the other
>>>> customers in line behind you since it's much faster than a cash
>>>> transaction.
>>
>> UNLESS their card gets refused.
>
> A refused card has been very seldom for me. Much more often is the lady
> ahead who has to hunt down her coupons while we all wait...

There's always SOMETHING.  I apparently have this mysterious aura that 
causes problems of one sort or another with customers in front of me 
after I've already put my stuff on the belt  just  before a new checker 
opens up a line and I'm trapped by the customers behind me.   It happens 
too often to be mere coincidence.

Worst is old ladies searching for the exact change in their coin purses. 
  Worse than that  if the old ladies are younger than me :-(

-- 
Cheers, Bev
               ...so few snipers, so many politicians...

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#55416

FromAlan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Date2018-09-01 13:37 -0400
Message-ID<75qdnb6RoeT6UxfGnZ2dnUU7-RXNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#55398
On 2018-09-01 10:06, sms wrote:
> On 9/1/2018 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2018-09-01 08:55, sms wrote:
>>> On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
>>>> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
>>>> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?
>>>
>>> Costco is 4% back with their credit card for gasoline purchased at 
>>> gas stations (not at convenience stores with gas stations). Once you 
>>> factor in the 4% rebate, it's rarely cheaper to pay cash at stations 
>>> with a discount for cash.
>>>
>>> Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the least 
>>> expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢ per gallon 
>>> cheaper. While some of the Costco stations do now have contactless 
>>> payment, you still have to first stick in your Costco card, so 
>>> there's no point in then using contactless. What they should do is to 
>>> let you use contactless to validate your membership via the Costco 
>>> Citibank Visa. This would also save about ten seconds per customer.
>>>
>>> In California, Costco has a contract with BP/Arco to supply the fuel. 
>>> In Northern California BP/Arco uses fuel from the Shell refinery 
>>> because BP has no refinery up here (BP/Arco has a reciprocal agreement).
>>>
>>> 1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>>>
>>> Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
>>> Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee 
>>> subsequent years)
>>
>> You do realize that these cashbacks are charged to you in the form of 
>> higher prices, right?  (It's the merchant who pays these fees to the 
>> card co.)
> 
> Exactly. So you really want to offset those higher prices with the 
> largest cash rebate possible. A business is free to offer a cash 
> discount if they wish, as most gas stations now do, though for some 
> items you would want the consumer protections, including extended 
> warranty, of a credit card.

Card agreements generally forbid the merchant from "swapping".  Gas 
stations are an exception.  (They don't do it anywhere in Canada to my 
knowledge (certainly not in Quebec)).

> 
>> Still, it's a winning game for the consumer, considering the pool of 
>> people paying at different rates.
> 
> The goal of the cashback is to get consumers to run up credit card debt. 
> The 2.5% rewards cards don't process at that rate for merchants.

No.  The debt belongs to the bank underwriting the card user - not the 
CC co.

The rewards programs are offered by the card company (MasterCard, Visa, 
etc.) in order to win over new clients.  More clients, more 
transactions, more fees for the card company.  They don't hold debt for 
longer than the 28 - 61 day float window (if even that long).

Whatever the reward, it is passed onto the merchant, in full (and 
perhaps more).

> 
> Using a credit card to pay is also respectful of the other customers in 
> line behind you since it's much faster than a cash transaction.
> 
> Also, remember that cash transactions have a real cost to the merchant 
> as well. They pay for armored car service. They have to account for 

This varies from business to business so can't be applied "at large".

> Costco is paying extremely low merchant fees to Citibank, way less than 
> the 4% gasoline rebate. To Costco, it's well worth the expense. IT 
> brings people to the gas station and then to the store. They spend more 
> money when paying with a credit card. It speeds up the checkout process 
> by discouraging cash and check transactions.

At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides 
local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes 
to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings for 
me is not worth waiting.


-- 
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants.  Proof that we
  need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
                                           - unknown protester

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#55433

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 13:21 -0700
Message-ID<pmesbm$gn3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55416
On 09/01/2018 10:37 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

> At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides
> local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes
> to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings for
> me is not worth waiting.

Go early, they open at 6am around here.  What I find amazing is that the 
Union station down at the corner charges $1/gallon more than the Arco 
stations half a mile away.  Lotta people out there with more money than 
brains.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
                                                 -- S. Brown

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#55438

FromAlan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Date2018-09-01 17:20 -0400
Message-ID<peadnXw96_wDnxbGnZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#55433
On 2018-09-01 16:21, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 09/01/2018 10:37 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> 
>> At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides
>> local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes
>> to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings for
>> me is not worth waiting.
> 
> Go early, they open at 6am around here.  What I find amazing is that the 
> Union station down at the corner charges $1/gallon more than the Arco 
> stations half a mile away.  Lotta people out there with more money than 
> brains.

The two closest Costco's (with gasoline) are too far away to bother 
changing my schedule just to save 25 - 50 cents.

-- 
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants.  Proof that we
  need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
                                           - unknown protester

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#55443

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 15:06 -0700
Message-ID<pmf2hv$jpq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55438
On 09/01/2018 02:20 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2018-09-01 16:21, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 09/01/2018 10:37 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>> At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides
>>> local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes
>>> to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings for
>>> me is not worth waiting.
>>
>> Go early, they open at 6am around here.  What I find amazing is that the
>> Union station down at the corner charges $1/gallon more than the Arco
>> stations half a mile away.  Lotta people out there with more money than
>> brains.
>
> The two closest Costco's (with gasoline) are too far away to bother
> changing my schedule just to save 25 - 50 cents.

I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my Costco 
trips (10 miles away)  to when I need 3/4 tank, roughly once a month. 
Then I hit Walmart, Aldi's,  the 99-Cent Store and whatever else is on 
the way.

There are real advantages to being retired.  It may also be noted that 
paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to retire a 
lot earlier than most people.

I like to think that by buying 10 gallons at Costco I'm not only saving 
$10 but getting 4% back, which beats inflation, AND I'm saving money by 
ganging errands AND saving money because of the places I shop AND it 
costs me less than a gallon of gas ($3.39/gallon this week) to do it.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
               ...so few snipers, so many politicians...

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#55446

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 08:34 +1000
Message-ID<fv0iffFi4bmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55443

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:pmf2hv$jpq$1@dont-email.me...
> On 09/01/2018 02:20 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2018-09-01 16:21, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2018 10:37 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>> At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides
>>>> local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes
>>>> to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings 
>>>> for
>>>> me is not worth waiting.
>>>
>>> Go early, they open at 6am around here.  What I find amazing is that the
>>> Union station down at the corner charges $1/gallon more than the Arco
>>> stations half a mile away.  Lotta people out there with more money than
>>> brains.
>>
>> The two closest Costco's (with gasoline) are too far away to bother
>> changing my schedule just to save 25 - 50 cents.
>
> I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my Costco 
> trips (10 miles away)  to when I need 3/4 tank, roughly once a month. Then 
> I hit Walmart, Aldi's,  the 99-Cent Store and whatever else is on the way.
>
> There are real advantages to being retired.  It may also be noted that 
> paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to retire a lot 
> earlier than most people.

But now I have such an immense pile of cash that I am never
going to spend before I cark it, its less clear that continuing
to operate like that makes any sense anymore.

> I like to think that by buying 10 gallons at Costco I'm not only saving 
> $10 but getting 4% back, which beats inflation, AND I'm saving money by 
> ganging errands AND saving money because of the places I shop AND it costs 
> me less than a gallon of gas ($3.39/gallon this week) to do it.
 

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#55454

FromAlan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Date2018-09-02 08:49 -0400
Message-ID<c4qdnd0Lo6jaQRbGnZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#55443
On 2018-09-01 18:06, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 09/01/2018 02:20 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2018-09-01 16:21, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 09/01/2018 10:37 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>
>>>> At both Costco's here the lineups are not worth the savings.  Besides
>>>> local gas stations reduce their prices to remain competitive - so comes
>>>> to a half / one cent per litre difference.  The 25 - 50 cent savings 
>>>> for
>>>> me is not worth waiting.
>>>
>>> Go early, they open at 6am around here.  What I find amazing is that the
>>> Union station down at the corner charges $1/gallon more than the Arco
>>> stations half a mile away.  Lotta people out there with more money than
>>> brains.
>>
>> The two closest Costco's (with gasoline) are too far away to bother
>> changing my schedule just to save 25 - 50 cents.
> 
> I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my Costco 
> trips (10 miles away)  to when I need 3/4 tank, roughly once a month. 
> Then I hit Walmart, Aldi's,  the 99-Cent Store and whatever else is on 
> the way.
> 
> There are real advantages to being retired.  It may also be noted that 
> paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to retire a 
> lot earlier than most people.
> 
> I like to think that by buying 10 gallons at Costco I'm not only saving 
> $10 but getting 4% back, which beats inflation, AND I'm saving money by 
> ganging errands AND saving money because of the places I shop AND it 
> costs me less than a gallon of gas ($3.39/gallon this week) to do it.

I've always ganged errands and even plan the route for least waste. 
Still, the Costco we go to does not have gas, and in any case I'm still 
not waiting in line to save 25 - 50 cents.  That would come to $25 - $50 
in 20 years - all to wait in line wasting gas idling (or re-starting the 
engine) - not to mention time better used on something else.

I'm all for efficiency - except when it's illusory, poor return or time 
wasting.

-- 
"2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants.  Proof that we
  need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
                                           - unknown protester

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#55456

From123456789 <12345@12345.com>
Date2018-09-02 08:23 -0700
Message-ID<pmgv91$6mb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55454
On 9/2/2018 5:49 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

>> I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my
>> Costco trips

I have 2 Costco stores within a few miles but gave up on them because
the quantities of most of the products (I buy) were too large for 2 people.

>> There are real advantages to being retired.  It may also be noted
>> that paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to
>> retire a lot earlier than most people.

I retired at age 50. But not through any smarts on my part. I just had a
good employer with a pension system that paid 80% after 30 years.

> I've always ganged errands and even plan the route for least waste.
> Still, the Costco we go to does not have gas, and in any case I'm
> still not waiting in line to save 25 - 50 cents.

My local Safeway gas station gives me up to a 40 cents a gallon discount
depending on how much I spend at their grocery store. Then my CC gives
me cashback on everything...

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#55458

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2018-09-02 09:12 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.213C436F001EC7FA7000013FE2CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#55456
On Sep 2, 2018, 123456789 wrote
(in article <pmgv91$6mb$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 9/2/2018 5:49 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>
> > > I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my
> > > Costco trips
>
> I have 2 Costco stores within a few miles but gave up on them because
> the quantities of most of the products (I buy) were too large for 2 people.
>
> > > There are real advantages to being retired. It may also be noted
> > > that paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to
> > > retire a lot earlier than most people.
>
> I retired at age 50. But not through any smarts on my part. I just had a
> good employer with a pension system that paid 80% after 30 years.

That sounds very much like CalPers. Though with my agency bargaining unit 30 
years would have got you a 90% pension.

While working I contributed to my comfortable retirement by fully utilzing 
the 457K, and 401K plans the State offered its employees.
I have been a member of the great army of the gainfully unemployed for 10 
years, my mortgage is history, my credit is good, and I have an open 
calendar.

...and my closest CostCo is a 35 minute drive away, so I have never bothered.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#55462

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 10:00 -0700
Message-ID<pmh4vk$cl1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55456
On 09/02/2018 08:23 AM, 123456789 wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 5:49 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>> I've spent a lifetime ganging errands together and try to time my
>>> Costco trips
>
> I have 2 Costco stores within a few miles but gave up on them because
> the quantities of most of the products (I buy) were too large for 2 people.

I mostly buy non-perishables -- canned stuff, OTC drugs, sometimes 
electronics.  Frozen stuff too.

>>> There are real advantages to being retired.  It may also be noted
>>> that paying attention to opportunities to save money allowed us to
>>> retire a lot earlier than most people.
>
> I retired at age 50. But not through any smarts on my part. I just had a
> good employer with a pension system that paid 80% after 30 years.
>
>> I've always ganged errands and even plan the route for least waste.

Jeez, who doesn't?  :-)

>> Still, the Costco we go to does not have gas, and in any case I'm
>> still not waiting in line to save 25 - 50 cents.
>
> My local Safeway gas station gives me up to a 40 cents a gallon discount
> depending on how much I spend at their grocery store. Then my CC gives
> me cashback on everything...

Ralph's here does something like that, but I don't buy enough groceries 
there (thanks, Costco!) to get anything better than a 10-cent discount 
and the only station is almost as far away as Costco :-(

Curiously enough, Sam's Club's gas is only a little more expensive than 
Costco's, but the lines are way shorter.  Sam's Club is just about as 
far away as Costco :-(  They have similar stuff, but different, and the 
prices are slightly higher.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "I've seen a look in dogs' eyes,  a quickly vanishing look
    of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs
    think humans are nuts."                  -- John Steinbeck

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#55419

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 05:12 +1000
Message-ID<fv06kjFfpusU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55398

"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message 
news:pme6dp$vd0$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/1/2018 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2018-09-01 08:55, sms wrote:
>>> On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
>>>> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
>>>> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?
>>>
>>> Costco is 4% back with their credit card for gasoline purchased at gas 
>>> stations (not at convenience stores with gas stations). Once you factor 
>>> in the 4% rebate, it's rarely cheaper to pay cash at stations with a 
>>> discount for cash.
>>>
>>> Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the least 
>>> expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢ per gallon 
>>> cheaper. While some of the Costco stations do now have contactless 
>>> payment, you still have to first stick in your Costco card, so there's 
>>> no point in then using contactless. What they should do is to let you 
>>> use contactless to validate your membership via the Costco Citibank 
>>> Visa. This would also save about ten seconds per customer.
>>>
>>> In California, Costco has a contract with BP/Arco to supply the fuel. In 
>>> Northern California BP/Arco uses fuel from the Shell refinery because BP 
>>> has no refinery up here (BP/Arco has a reciprocal agreement).
>>>
>>> 1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>>>
>>> Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
>>> Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee subsequent 
>>> years)
>>
>> You do realize that these cashbacks are charged to you in the form of 
>> higher prices, right?  (It's the merchant who pays these fees to the card 
>> co.)
>
> Exactly. So you really want to offset those higher prices with the largest 
> cash rebate possible. A business is free to offer a cash discount if they 
> wish, as most gas stations now do, though for some items you would want 
> the consumer protections, including extended warranty, of a credit card.
>
>> Still, it's a winning game for the consumer, considering the pool of 
>> people paying at different rates.
>
> The goal of the cashback is to get consumers to run up credit card debt. 
> The 2.5% rewards cards don't process at that rate for merchants.
>
> Using a credit card to pay is also respectful of the other customers in 
> line behind you since it's much faster than a cash transaction.
>
> Also, remember that cash transactions have a real cost to the merchant as 
> well. They pay for armored car service. They have to account for 
> counterfeiting. They have to employ more people because cash transactions 
> take longer. In fast food restaurants, employees have to change gloves 
> every time they go between food prep and collecting cash--I remember 
> watching in amazement at the number of disposable gloves that were being 
> used per minute at one place!
>
> At one Costco near me the food court now uses tablets for ordering and 
> paying, with only one cash register available for those insistent on 
> paying cash. It's sped things up enormously.

A few of our cafes etc refuse cash. You have to pay by card.

> Costco is paying extremely low merchant fees to Citibank, way less than 
> the 4% gasoline rebate. To Costco, it's well worth the expense. IT brings 
> people to the gas station and then to the store. They spend more money 
> when paying with a credit card. It speeds up the checkout process by 
> discouraging cash and check transactions. 

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#55431

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 13:11 -0700
Message-ID<pmerp7$d94$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55398
On 09/01/2018 07:06 AM, sms wrote:

> At one Costco near me the food court now uses tablets for ordering and
> paying, with only one cash register available for those insistent on
> paying cash. It's sped things up enormously.

Off-topic annoyance:  last time I went to Costco there was a long line 
at the food court so I tried phoning in my pizza order, intending to 
pick it up when I was finished shopping.  Imagine my joy when I was told 
at the pizza window that I would have to stand in line to pay for it 
before I could pick it up.

I walked off in a huff without the pizza.  What a stupid thing.  All 
they have to do is get your CC number on the phone and have you sign the 
receipt when you pick it up, but NOOOO!


-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
                                                 -- S. Brown

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#55430

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 13:07 -0700
Message-ID<pmerhs$a8g$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55395
On 09/01/2018 06:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2018-09-01 08:55, sms wrote:
...
>> 1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>>
>> Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
>> Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee subsequent
>> years)
>
> You do realize that these cashbacks are charged to you in the form of
> higher prices, right?  (It's the merchant who pays these fees to the
> card co.)
>
> Still, it's a winning game for the consumer, considering the pool of
> people paying at different rates.

I shop at the cheapest places and hardly ever buy expensive stuff.  I 
use the card that offers the best rebate depending on what I'm buying. 
I also bend over to pick up pennies in the street.  Free money is free 
money.

Yeah, I know, Bill Gates can't afford to pick up even $20s in the street 
(which I actually did ONCE!), but I'm not Bill Gates.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
                                                 -- S. Brown

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#55417

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-02 05:06 +1000
Message-ID<fv069bFfnp9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#55392

"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message 
news:pme28k$slb$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
>> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
>> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?
>
> Costco is 4% back with their credit card for gasoline purchased at gas 
> stations (not at convenience stores with gas stations). Once you factor in 
> the 4% rebate, it's rarely cheaper to pay cash at stations with a discount 
> for cash.
>
> Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the least 
> expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢ per gallon 
> cheaper. While some of the Costco stations do now have contactless 
> payment, you still have to first stick in your Costco card, so there's no 
> point in then using contactless. What they should do is to let you use 
> contactless to validate your membership via the Costco Citibank Visa. This 
> would also save about ten seconds per customer.
>
> In California, Costco has a contract with BP/Arco to supply the fuel. In 
> Northern California BP/Arco uses fuel from the Shell refinery because BP 
> has no refinery up here (BP/Arco has a reciprocal agreement).
>
> 1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>
> Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
> Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee subsequent 
> years)

None of ours in Australia have any discount for
cash but our merchant fees are much lower.

A few retailers wouldn’t allow the use of a card for transactions
of lower value than $5, but even that is uncommon now.

None of our fee free cards have any discount for cash, presumably
because the much lower merchant fees can't pay for that. 

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#55428

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-01 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<pmer3o$8lo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55392
On 09/01/2018 05:55 AM, sms wrote:
> On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
>> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
>> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?
>
> Costco is 4% back with their credit card for gasoline purchased at gas
> stations (not at convenience stores with gas stations). Once you factor
> in the 4% rebate, it's rarely cheaper to pay cash at stations with a
> discount for cash.
>
> Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the least
> expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢ per gallon
> cheaper. While some of the Costco stations do now have contactless
> payment, you still have to first stick in your Costco card, so there's
> no point in then using contactless. What they should do is to let you
> use contactless to validate your membership via the Costco Citibank
> Visa. This would also save about ten seconds per customer.
>
> In California, Costco has a contract with BP/Arco to supply the fuel. In
> Northern California BP/Arco uses fuel from the Shell refinery because BP
> has no refinery up here (BP/Arco has a reciprocal agreement).

AND Costco has extra-long hoses so you can park on either side of the 
island without worrying about smashing your side mirror.  This is 
apparently a secret because the lanes on the left side of the island are 
nearly always shorter.

If I'm not going to Costco I buy gas for cash at the Arco station, which 
I hate because of their stupid short hoses and because I invariably get 
to stand behind some jerk buying food, lottery tickets and cigarettes as 
well as gas and his debit card gets refused so he has to dig out the 
cash and can't remember where he keeps his wallet :-(

I realize that the additional 35 cents to use a debit card at the pump 
is a minuscule amount of money to worry about,  but 3 trips = what I was 
paid per hour in my first job.  Some things you just don't forget!

BTW, Freedompop is running another dirt-cheap promotion now.

> 1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>
> Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
> Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee subsequent
> years)

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
                                                 -- S. Brown

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#55538

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2018-09-05 11:08 +0100
Message-ID<vv7vodlnuq7ok6tuo28a26v3e1qr4f7idb@4ax.com>
In reply to#55392
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 05:55:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 9/1/2018 4:33 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
>> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
>> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?
>
>Costco is 4% back with their credit card for gasoline purchased at gas 
>stations (not at convenience stores with gas stations). Once you factor 
>in the 4% rebate, it's rarely cheaper to pay cash at stations with a 
>discount for cash.
>
>Costco's own gas station does not take cash, and is usually the least 
>expensive gasoline even before the rebate, often 15-20¢ per gallon 
>cheaper. While some of the Costco stations do now have contactless 
>payment, you still have to first stick in your Costco card, so there's 
>no point in then using contactless. What they should do is to let you 
>use contactless to validate your membership via the Costco Citibank 
>Visa. This would also save about ten seconds per customer.
>
>In California, Costco has a contract with BP/Arco to supply the fuel. In 
>Northern California BP/Arco uses fuel from the Shell refinery because BP 
>has no refinery up here (BP/Arco has a reciprocal agreement).
>
>1% is a very low cashback amount. Consider these cards:
>
>Citibank Double Cash (2%, no fee).
>Alliant Credit Union (3%, no fee the first year, 2.5% $59 fee subsequent 
>years)

Thanks, but I think they're only for consumers in the US.

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#55400

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-09-01 10:40 -0400
Message-ID<010920181040312105%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55390
In article <8eikod53d7rb7rqo32u0ho35hevq79htic@4ax.com>, Chris in
Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> I swipe my credit card at gas stations even though there might be a
> >> skimmer. 
> >
> >that's also a bad idea.
> >
> >fortunately, most gas stations now support apple/google pay as well as
> >contactless cards, rendering skimmers/shimmers ineffective.
> >
> >or just pay cash and save 5-10c/gal.
> 
> I use a credit card for all purchases because I get 1% cashback. Why
> lose money by paying cash when you can get it 1% cheaper by using a
> card, and get a few weeks longer to pay as well?

because 5-10c/gal is a much bigger discount than getting 1% cashback,
unless fuel is *very* expensive, in which case, the cash discount is
likely to be even higher. 

when gas was $4-5/gal several years ago, the cash discount was more
than 10c, but the price hasn't been that high for a while.

and 1% cash back is not a lot. there are cards that offer as much as 6%
cash back or as much as 10x points for purchases, the latter of which
can be worth more than 1cpp, depending how they're redeemed.

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