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Speaking alarm clock

Started by"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
First post2019-01-31 03:59 +0100
Last post2019-02-02 20:02 +0000
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  Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 03:59 +0100
    Re: Speaking alarm clock Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-31 04:03 +0000
    Re: Speaking alarm clock "M. L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-01-30 23:22 -0600
      Re: Speaking alarm clock Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2019-01-31 11:27 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 11:31 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2019-01-31 10:53 +0000
          Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 12:03 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-01 01:52 +0000
          Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 03:10 +0100
          Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-01 03:02 +0000
            Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 14:09 +0100
              Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-02-01 09:26 -0500
                Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 18:43 +0100
          Re: Speaking alarm clock FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2019-02-03 19:34 +1100
            Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-03 15:16 +0000
      Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 11:28 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-01-31 09:34 -0500
    Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-01-31 14:17 +0000
      Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 18:27 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-01-31 20:24 -0500
          Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 03:13 +0100
            Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-02-01 07:43 -0500
            Re: Speaking alarm clock Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2019-02-01 21:09 +0000
              Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-02 03:20 +0100
        Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-01-31 20:25 -0500
        Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-02-01 14:14 +0000
          Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 18:42 +0100
            Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-02-04 14:15 +0000
              Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-04 16:05 +0100
                Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-02-05 15:31 +0000
                  Re: Speaking alarm clock "M. L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-02-06 11:10 -0600
                    Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-02-07 14:23 +0000
                      Re: Speaking alarm clock "M. L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2019-02-08 21:08 -0600
                        Re: Speaking alarm clock Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2019-02-12 15:34 +0000
    Re: Speaking alarm clock micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2019-01-31 09:26 -0500
      Re: Speaking alarm clock Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2019-01-31 15:48 +0000
      Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 18:39 +0100
    Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-01-31 20:43 +0100
      Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-01 03:47 +0000
        Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-01 04:48 +0000
          Re: Speaking alarm clock "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-02-01 14:03 +0100
            Re: Speaking alarm clock arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-02-02 20:02 +0000

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#59520

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-02-01 03:13 +0100
Message-ID<4jmcif-cd1.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59516
On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
> 
> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
> floodlight that shone right on me.  

I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!

I haven't used it in a decade at least.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59527

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2019-02-01 07:43 -0500
Message-ID<rhf85edcqtl1lblvf7gjob9j9s2t5db3n0@4ax.com>
In reply to#59520
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:13:24 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>> 
>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>> floodlight that shone right on me.  
>
>I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>
>I haven't used it in a decade at least.

I didn't wake up with a jolt.   You might not either now.  People adapt,
even without trying, even without doing. 

First year in college I put the clock radio at the far side of my desk
which was at the foot of my bed.  I'd wake up and dive over most of the
desk to get to the alarm.  That was bad. 

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#59547

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2019-02-01 21:09 +0000
Message-ID<q32e0v.5d0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#59520
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
> > In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
> > E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
> >> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
> > 
> > My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
> > floodlight that shone right on me.  
> 
> I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
> and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
> with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
> 
> I haven't used it in a decade at least.

  About (not) waking up with a jolt:
  
  You may want to have a look at so called 'smart alarm' apps. The
better of such apps give you a window of time - say 30 minutes - in
which they (try to) pick the time when your sleep is the lightest, i.e.
nearly awake. At that ideal time, they try to wake you (with snooze
option). If that fails, they often have a last-resort time at which they
wake you up 'with a bang'.

  One such app is 'Sleep as Android' [1], but that's probably an overkill,
because it does much, much, more than just the smart alarm (and it's a
trial/paid app, some 6 Euro).

  N.B. Of course the better 'smart alarm' apps have to measure (using
you phone's accelerometer) your sleep pattern, instead of just guessing
it.

  And of course these 'smart alarm' apps do not neccessarily speak the
time, but Sleep as Android has Tasker (or equivalent) and IFTTT
integration, so - with other apps/services - anything is possible. (for
example start the heater of your BMW! :-))

  HTH.

[1] <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep>

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#59556

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-02-02 03:20 +0100
Message-ID<fcbfif-o04.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59547
On 01/02/2019 22.09, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 01/02/2019 02.24, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
>>> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>>>> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!
>>>
>>> My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
>>> floodlight that shone right on me.  
>>
>> I have that. I used a programmable mains switch that powers both a radio
>> and an halogen lamp that shines just on the pillow. I hate it, I wake up
>> with a jolt. I'm sure it is bad for my heart. And for my temper!
>>
>> I haven't used it in a decade at least.
> 
>   About (not) waking up with a jolt:
>   
>   You may want to have a look at so called 'smart alarm' apps. The
> better of such apps give you a window of time - say 30 minutes - in
> which they (try to) pick the time when your sleep is the lightest, i.e.
> nearly awake. At that ideal time, they try to wake you (with snooze
> option). If that fails, they often have a last-resort time at which they
> wake you up 'with a bang'.

Interesting idea.

I find an alarm that starts very softly and progressively over half a
minute increases the volume to be a suitable compromise for me. If I'm
dreaming the sound integrates somehow into the dream, till the mind
recognizes it and awakes, smoothly.

> 
>   One such app is 'Sleep as Android' [1], but that's probably an overkill,
> because it does much, much, more than just the smart alarm (and it's a
> trial/paid app, some 6 Euro).
> 
>   N.B. Of course the better 'smart alarm' apps have to measure (using
> you phone's accelerometer) your sleep pattern, instead of just guessing
> it.

I heard of those things. Some apps analyze your sleep and present a
report, saying if you slept enough or not. Some wake you up when it is
enough.
> 
>   And of course these 'smart alarm' apps do not neccessarily speak the
> time, but Sleep as Android has Tasker (or equivalent) and IFTTT
> integration, so - with other apps/services - anything is possible. (for
> example start the heater of your BMW! :-))
> 
>   HTH.
> 
> [1] <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep>


Ah, tasker... that might be another thing to try.


Thanks for the idea, a smart alarm may be something to try.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59517

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2019-01-31 20:25 -0500
Message-ID<pu775epb8g5tsi8l5hu3t13lk91gnlm772@4ax.com>
In reply to#59509
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>
>I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
>may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!

My second year in college I had a clock radio I used to turn on a
floodlight that shone right on me.  

And it didn't bother my roommate, meaning a guy in the same room, like a
buzzer would.  He slept on the other side of the room that was still
mostly dark. 


It made me get up iirc but it didn't make me get good grades. 

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#59531

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2019-02-01 14:14 +0000
Message-ID<q31k7p$2b8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59509
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:27 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 31/01/2019 15.17, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>>> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>>> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>> 
>> I recall seeing a couple that did that when looking for a new alarm clock,
>> but iirc, they all did all the extra stuff you don't want too.
>> 
>> I'm genuinely curious about that option tho, not trying to be a snot...
>> Why do you want the time spoken? For me, the alarm going off means it's the
>> chosen time. Maybe I'm missing something in your, and others', use case?
> 
> The use case is that I snooze. I say "let's sleep some more, I'm too
> tired". I may forget that, despite having slept only 5 hours I must get
> up to do something important at a certain time, and that snoozing 4
> times is too much.
> 
> So, tell my sleepy mind the time so it realizes :-)
> 
> Some people use difficult to switch off alarms. Or very loud. Those
> instead turn me angry. Or alarmed.
> 
> So I use one that starts very softly and which doesn't wake me instantly
> with a jolt.  But at that moment my neurons are not working right and
> have a mind of their own to continue sleeping. They need to be reminded
> why they must give up.
> 
> 
> I have seen other tools that are not alarm clocks, but reminders. There
> may be hundreds of alarm clock apps!

Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
it set to allow only 3 snoozes.

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#59537

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-02-01 18:42 +0100
Message-ID<u0deif-feb.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59531
On 01/02/2019 15.14, Joe Beanfish wrote:
> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.

Ah, but what happens the third time? How does an sleepy mind know it is
the third time?  You hit snooze, and it doesn't ring again, same as if
you hit stop...

The third time the alarm must be different in some way. Like hitting
snooze and it speaking some refusal.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59580

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2019-02-04 14:15 +0000
Message-ID<q39heb$ua5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59537
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 18:42:22 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 01/02/2019 15.14, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
>> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
> 
> Ah, but what happens the third time? How does an sleepy mind know it is
> the third time?  You hit snooze, and it doesn't ring again, same as if
> you hit stop...
> 
> The third time the alarm must be different in some way. Like hitting
> snooze and it speaking some refusal.

It doesn't allow another snooze. You have to stop the alarm if you
want it quiet. The idea being "stop snoozing and get up dummy" :)

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#59581

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-02-04 16:05 +0100
Message-ID<7v0mif-kgr.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59580
On 04/02/2019 15.15, Joe Beanfish wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 18:42:22 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 01/02/2019 15.14, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>>> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
>>> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
>>
>> Ah, but what happens the third time? How does an sleepy mind know it is
>> the third time?  You hit snooze, and it doesn't ring again, same as if
>> you hit stop...
>>
>> The third time the alarm must be different in some way. Like hitting
>> snooze and it speaking some refusal.
> 
> It doesn't allow another snooze. You have to stop the alarm if you
> want it quiet. The idea being "stop snoozing and get up dummy" :)

And what is the app name?

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59584

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2019-02-05 15:31 +0000
Message-ID<q3ca7q$uj5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59581
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 16:05:43 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 04/02/2019 15.15, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 18:42:22 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01/02/2019 15.14, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>>>> Ah, my alarm starts up gently and gets progressively louder. I also have
>>>> it set to allow only 3 snoozes.
>>>
>>> Ah, but what happens the third time? How does an sleepy mind know it is
>>> the third time?  You hit snooze, and it doesn't ring again, same as if
>>> you hit stop...
>>>
>>> The third time the alarm must be different in some way. Like hitting
>>> snooze and it speaking some refusal.
>> 
>> It doesn't allow another snooze. You have to stop the alarm if you
>> want it quiet. The idea being "stop snoozing and get up dummy" :)
> 
> And what is the app name?

I've used at least a couple,

Smart Alarm Free (Alarm Clock) by TanyuSoft
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.tanyu.SmartAlarmFree
With ads
I set the Snooze button to large the Dismiss button to normal.
Regardless of size, the Dismiss button requires a long press so
accidental taps won't kill the alarm.
It has an optional ramp up of the alarm volume.

Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
No ads, but optional premium features that I've not purchased
The snooze button is large. To kill the alarm you have to swipe
across a widget so no accidental kills.
It allows a separate pre-alarm tone with ramp up of volume.
The UI is very excellent IMO. Most others are fairly clunky.

The former I'm currently using because the latter had some ruckus with
the play store and was removed. It came back recently and I've not had
a chance to migrate back to it yet.

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#59603

From"M. L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2019-02-06 11:10 -0600
Message-ID<q3f4e6$le2$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#59584
> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime

> No ads,

> ...had some ruckus with
> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....

Looks like it came back with ads.

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#59633

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2019-02-07 14:23 +0000
Message-ID<q3hf0i$ec$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59603
On Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:10:27 -0600, M. L. wrote:

>> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
> 
>> No ads,
> 
>> ...had some ruckus with
>> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....
> 
> Looks like it came back with ads.

Oh? Where are you seeing ads? I haven't seen any during setup
nor when alarms go off. The other alarm I mentioned certainly
has ads.

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#59684

From"M. L." <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2019-02-08 21:08 -0600
Message-ID<q3lg75$ck8$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#59633
>>> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
>>
>>> No ads,
>>
>>> ...had some ruckus with
>>> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....
>>
>> Looks like it came back with ads.
> 
> Oh? Where are you seeing ads?

The words "Contains Ads. Offers in-app purchases" is displayed in the 
header section of the Play store page for Life Time Alarm Clock.

> I haven't seen any during setup
> nor when alarms go off. The other alarm I mentioned certainly
> has ads.
> 

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#59755

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2019-02-12 15:34 +0000
Message-ID<q3up18$vp9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59684
On Fri, 08 Feb 2019 21:08:20 -0600, M. L. wrote:

>>>> Life Time Alarm Clock by 8 bit Immersiv
>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mcc.alarmclocklifetime
>>>
>>>> No ads,
>>>
>>>> ...had some ruckus with
>>>> the play store and was removed. It came back recently....
>>>
>>> Looks like it came back with ads.
>> 
>> Oh? Where are you seeing ads?
> 
> The words "Contains Ads. Offers in-app purchases" is displayed in the 
> header section of the Play store page for Life Time Alarm Clock.
> 
>> I haven't seen any during setup
>> nor when alarms go off. The other alarm I mentioned certainly
>> has ads.
>>

My bad. I looked thru my purchase history and discovered I paid $1.49
several years ago to go ad free (for life apparently). Pretty good deal IMO.

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#59504

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2019-01-31 09:26 -0500
Message-ID<3k065ed02r56nl2h5ppgsvgdq1e8326mpl@4ax.com>
In reply to#59490
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>
>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>
>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.

I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once.   But she
didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
her eyes and looking at the clock. 

Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said.  Even
the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem.  Neither of
like to sleep with the curtains drawn. 
>
>I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
>equation. Wow.

Double wow. I guess these are for those who push snooze over and over
and dont' get up in time. I had an appointment last week for a simple
medical procedure, but I stayed overnight the night before in a nearby
hotel. Worried I wouldn't get up, I brought my phone and a separate
alarm clock, then found the room had an alarm clock, the TV would turn
on at a set time, and I had my laptop with an alarm clock program.  Five
of them.   Ended up waking up 15 minutes before the first one went off. 

I don't think the cheap ($10) clock radio that was in the room made any
noise. (The volume controlled the alarm sound too, I think). The TV only
turned on, so if it was on, there was no difference. 

But the clock I brought and my laptop worked fine.  The laptop program
works even if the computer is in hibernation, maybe even if it's off.
It's very good but it doesn't announce the actual time. 

> The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
>under a hammer something.
>
>No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
>and shut up.
>
>Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...

This last one should be easier to find.  You can re-record one of the
built-in alarm tones.  Then, how to get it to shut up?  I don't remember
that being an option for the program above.  YOu could record a ringtone
that was an hour or two long, speak your phrase at the start, and then
be quiet for the rest of the time.  That might work. 

It has an option to start low and get louder.  It's not installed on my
desktop so if you want the name.. 

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#59507

FromChris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Date2019-01-31 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<ps565etbd6difc875mipjadjbvai5rh77i@4ax.com>
In reply to#59504
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:26:49 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
>E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>>I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>>typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>>news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
>
>I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once.   But she
>didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
>in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
>on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
>her eyes and looking at the clock. 
>
>Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
>But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said.  Even
>the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem.  Neither of
>like to sleep with the curtains drawn. 

That's the most frequent use I have for my Amazon Echo Dot. It sits by
my bed and when I wake up in the night I just say "Alexa...  what's
the time?"

I find it the most effortless way to know the time in that situation.
No need to move a muscle, and no need to turn over to look at a clock.

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#59510

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-01-31 18:39 +0100
Message-ID<7fobif-il9.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59504
On 31/01/2019 15.26, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:59:56 +0100, "Carlos
> E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
>>
>> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
>> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
>> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
> 
> I think I bought my mother a clock-radio like that once.   But she
> didn't have a job and didn't need an alarm, just wanted to know the time
> in the middle of the night, and she had to roll over and push a button
> on the clock to get the time, and that was probably harder than opening
> her eyes and looking at the clock. 
> 
> Then I know I bought her a clock that shone the time on the ceiling.
> But unless it was very dark out, it was hard to see what it said.  Even
> the moon or street lights were enough to cause a problem.  Neither of
> like to sleep with the curtains drawn. 

I have seen those. I'd hate to put more cables.


>> I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
>> equation. Wow.
> 
> Double wow. I guess these are for those who push snooze over and over
> and dont' get up in time. I had an appointment last week for a simple
> medical procedure, but I stayed overnight the night before in a nearby
> hotel. Worried I wouldn't get up, I brought my phone and a separate
> alarm clock, then found the room had an alarm clock, the TV would turn
> on at a set time, and I had my laptop with an alarm clock program.  Five
> of them.   Ended up waking up 15 minutes before the first one went off. 

Yes, happens to me as well. Once I told room service to wake me up.

A strange new clock far from the bed also works, but makes me angry.


> I don't think the cheap ($10) clock radio that was in the room made any
> noise. (The volume controlled the alarm sound too, I think). The TV only
> turned on, so if it was on, there was no difference. 
> 
> But the clock I brought and my laptop worked fine.  The laptop program
> works even if the computer is in hibernation, maybe even if it's off.
> It's very good but it doesn't announce the actual time. 

The program doesn't really run while hibernated. What it does is program
the Non Volatile Ram Clock (the chip that runs a clock with a battery,
and also keeps the BIOS configuration) to wake up the computer at a
predefined time (there is an interrupt line for that). The computer
runs, the program realizes why, and does its programmed task.

> 
>> The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
>> under a hammer something.
>>
>> No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
>> and shut up.
>>
>> Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
> 
> This last one should be easier to find.  You can re-record one of the
> built-in alarm tones.  Then, how to get it to shut up?  I don't remember
> that being an option for the program above.  YOu could record a ringtone
> that was an hour or two long, speak your phrase at the start, and then
> be quiet for the rest of the time.  That might work. 
> 
> It has an option to start low and get louder.  It's not installed on my
> desktop so if you want the name.. 

The thing is, there are thousands of clock apps, so very difficult to
choose - likely candidates I looked at have bad comments. I got a bit
tired and thought of asking here, perhaps somebody uses one ;-)

Using the laptop... better not.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59513

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-01-31 20:43 +0100
Message-ID<uovbif-hof.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#59490
On 31/01/2019 03.59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I had a look but I did not find what I'm seeking for.
> 
> I just would like an alarm clock app that besides playing some tune as
> typical, also speaks up the current time. No telling the weather, the
> news, phrases, etc: just the hour.
> 
> I have seen some that will not shut up till you solve a puzzle or a math
> equation. Wow. The think would accidentally fall into a pail of water or
> under a hammer something.
> 
> No, I just want it to politely tell me the hour, maybe when touching it,
> and shut up.
> 
> Or an app that speaks a phrase at some defined time and shuts up...
> 

I'm trying:

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>

The display is huge on my tablet, it assumes a phone and is rotated that
way, ignoring the actual positioning of the tablet.

I managed to setup an alarm, which is not trivial, too many options. It
says the message, then plays the music - thus I will not hear it. I can
use it only as secondary alarm.

If I add some text to speak, it doesn't say the time.

The translation to Spanish is terrible. I'd prefer English. I can't
understand the configuration with that horrible translation.

The buttons to close or snooze are way too close one to another, making
trivial to press the wrong one.

There is a language configuration for the TTS, it is set to
"español(USA)". It ignores my selecting "español(ESP)".


Finally, I found a setup option to change the display to English.

It has entries to say the time every hour, to add reminders, to be a
stopwatch...

Too complicated, too many options, and still doesn't have the right ones...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#59522

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-02-01 03:47 +0000
Message-ID<q30ffv$507$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#59513
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:43:58 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I'm trying:
> 
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wan.pclock>

That's the one I tried, where I _only_ tested that it speaks the time
every hour as in "six oclock", "seven oclock", etc.

At least it didn't ask for _any_ permissions; but I agree, it has so many
freaking options (some of which are worthless, like colors), but it "seems"
to have "enough" options to "maybe" do what you might want it to do.

I prefer the zero-add open-source apps, so you might also check out:
 <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.clock/>

As an aside, I love *one-button* timer alarms, where, for example, when I
boil water, I press the "10-minute" button just once and that's it.

I repeat. You press the button and that's the last you worry about.
Ten minutes later (or five minutes or whatever) it rings.

Here's my ten-minute timer I really like:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer010>
 com.terarisu.limited_timer101, version 1.6
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.micchan.fiveminutetimer>
(My main complaint is that it has a GUI but you can completely ignore it.)

There's also a five-minute timer that I use less often.
 com.micchan.fiveminutetimer, version 0.6

I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>

For example:
 3 minute one-click timer
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer003>

 15 minute one-click timer
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer015>

 20 minute one-click timer
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer020>

 30 minute one-click timer
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer030>

 60 minute one click timer
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terarisu.limited_timer060>
etc.

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#59523

Fromarlen holder <arlen@arlen.com>
Date2019-02-01 04:48 +0000
Message-ID<q30j2j$agq$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#59522
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:47:12 -0000 (UTC), arlen holder wrote:

> I just noticed that the "changemylife" outfit has a _lot_ of these on GP:
> <https://play.google.com/store/search?q=changemylife&c=apps>

As an aside, I came up with a "use model" just now.

1. You download the 1 minute, 5 minute, 10 minute, etc. one click timers.

2. You set the 1 minute app to be in "standard" mode, while you leave all
the rest in "dash" mode.

3. When you want a one-click timer, you click any of the timers that are
set to "dash" mode - where a single click is all you need (which is the
whole point).

4. If you need to set a "specific" timer, then use the "1-minute timer",
which you set to "standard" mode, which means it's settable to any time.

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