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  Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 04:46 -0500
    Re:Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-16 12:17 +0100
      Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-16 13:11 -0500
        Re: Recommend a good texting app Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2018-11-19 11:34 +0000
    Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 13:14 -0500
      Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-16 21:39 +0000
        Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-16 17:09 -0500
        Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 00:39 +0000
          Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 02:31 +0000
            Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-17 04:00 +0000
              Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 05:52 +0000
                Re: Recommend a good texting app M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2018-11-17 00:48 -0600
                  Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 07:03 +0000
              Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
        Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:55 -0500
          Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:25 +0000
      Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 20:25 +0000
        Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-18 15:46 -0500
          Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-18 21:09 +0000
            Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 07:54 +0100
              Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:03 +0100
                Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:09 +0100
                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 10:55 +0100
                    Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:30 +0100
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:16 +0100
                        Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:43 +0100
                    Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:22 +0000
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:36 +0100
                        Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:55 +0100
                          Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:33 +0100
                        Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:34 +0000
                        Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:48 +0000
                          Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:42 +0100
                            Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 12:40 +0000
                              Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
                                Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 18:36 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
                              Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 06:36 +0100
                                Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:21 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-21 09:44 +0100
                                    Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 19:26 +0000
                            Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-19 09:41 -0500
                        Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-20 10:43 +0100
                          Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 13:05 +0000
                            Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 13:28 -0500
                              Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 08:11 +0000
                                Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 08:04 -0500
                                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2018-11-21 14:50 +0100
                                    Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 09:41 -0500
                                      Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 10:41 -0700
                                        Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
                                          Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
                                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 18:54 +0000
                                        Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
                                          Re: Recommend a good texting app Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-11-21 20:35 +0000
                                            Re: Recommend a good texting app nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:42 -0500
                                            Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-21 20:50 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:16 +0000
                                          Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:01 -0700
                                            Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:29 +0000
                                              Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-21 15:54 -0700
                                                Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:44 +0000
                                                  Re: Recommend a good texting app 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-11-22 18:39 -0700
                                          Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 22:04 +0000
                                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 22:20 +0000
                            Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 19:06 +0000
              Re: Recommend a good texting app Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-11-19 07:59 +0000
                Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 09:28 +0100
                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:01 +0100
                    Re: Recommend a good texting app Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-11-19 11:31 +0100
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2018-11-20 19:04 +0100
                Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
              Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:24 +0000
                Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 11:03 +0100
                  Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 13:09 +0000
                    Re: Recommend a good texting app Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-11-19 14:23 +0100
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:40 +0000
                      Re: Recommend a good texting app Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 19:42 +0000
            Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 13:14 +0000
    Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-16 20:32 +0000
      Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 14:57 -0500
        Re: Recommend a good texting app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 20:15 +0000
          Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:36 +0000
            Re: Recommend a good texting app micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-11-17 17:15 -0500
              Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
                Re: Recommend a good texting app arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-20 16:56 +0000

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#57571 — Recommend a good texting app

I finally noticed that Rotate does work with the browswer and elsewhere,
and it doesn't work only with texting. 

Googling showed me that the Xiaomi text app has that flaw, and seems to
have had it for years!   (and the email app also, but I use K9 when I
use anything.) 

So what's a good texting app, free or under $5 that doesn't show ads or
try to sell things. 

Any suggestions? 

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#57572

micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> Wrote in message:
> I finally noticed that Rotate does work with the browswer and elsewhere,and it doesn't work only with texting. Googling showed me that the Xiaomi text app has that flaw, and seems tohave had it for years!   (and the email app also, but I use K9 when Iuse anything.) So what's a good texting app, free or under $5 that doesn't show ads ortry to sell things. Any suggestions? 

What exactly do you mean by texting ?
As it looks like you speak about email, 
but by an  informal term texting is usually implied SMS.

-- 
Libor Striz aka Poutnik ( a pilgrim/wanderer/wayfarer)

"Humour is the only effective weapon against stupidity."
Miloš Forman


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#57581

In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:17:02 +0100 (GMT+01:00),
Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> Wrote in message:
>> I finally noticed that Rotate does work with the browswer and elsewhere,and it doesn't work only with texting. Googling showed me that the Xiaomi text app has that flaw, and seems tohave had it for years!   (and the email app also, but I use K9 when Iuse anything.) So what's a good texting app, free or under $5 that doesn't show ads ortry to sell things. Any suggestions? 
>
>What exactly do you mean by texting ?
>As it looks like you speak about email, 
>but by an  informal term texting is usually implied SMS.

Yes, I meant SMS and MMS.

Not interested in email.  I didn't put the clauses in the best order and
only mentioned email because the built-in email app is another app that
I've read does not rotate on Xiaomi phones. 

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#57659

micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in 
news:er1uudpvftjshshcsgii3flglmdp46jq0f@4ax.com:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:17:02 +0100 (GMT+01:00),
> Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> Wrote in message:
>>> I finally noticed that Rotate does work with the browswer and 
elsewhere,and it doesn't work only with texting. Googling showed me that 
the Xiaomi text app has that flaw, and seems tohave had it for years!   
(and the email app also, but I use K9 when Iuse anything.) So what's a 
good texting app, free or under $5 that doesn't show ads ortry to sell 
things. Any suggestions? 
>>
>>What exactly do you mean by texting ?
>>As it looks like you speak about email, 
>>but by an  informal term texting is usually implied SMS.
> 
> Yes, I meant SMS and MMS.
> 
> Not interested in email.  I didn't put the clauses in the best order 
and
> only mentioned email because the built-in email app is another app that
> I've read does not rotate on Xiaomi phones. 

MySMS.
Can be installed on pc, but otherwise just the same as SMS/Text app on 
mobile.

-- 
Jim S

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#57582

In article <b94tud1kjmijh8gnbnu5leu5p8dmfej2dv@4ax.com>, micky
<NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> So what's a good texting app, free or under $5 that doesn't show ads or
> try to sell things. 

messaging apps don't interoperate, so use the one that the people you
want to talk to use.

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#57589

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:14:02 -0500, nospam wrote:

> messaging apps don't interoperate, so use the one that the people you
> want to talk to use.

Is that a joke?

Anyway, as with what Frank said, my stock messaging app rotates just fine.

It's the stock SMS app for the LG Stylo 3 Plus, Nougat 7.0 for T-Mobile.
It's called "Messaging version 5.30.61.002" in the Android app settings.

I backed it up to an APK so that I could give the OP the full name:
 Messaging-com.android.mms-53061002-v5.30.61.002.apk

If desired, I can upload that app to a binary site for the OP.

In addition, if we look for the _best_ third-party free message apps, 
maybe we'll find a venn diagram overlap of the best to test for the OP.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-texting-apps-for-android-653970/>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p1.chompsms>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.app.nextsms>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>

<https://www.androidcentral.com/best-text-messaging-apps>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>
o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>

<https://www.androidpit.com/best-sms-apps-android
o Features
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p1.chompsms>
o Customization
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.app.nextsms>
o Simplicity
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
o Desktop integration
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mysms.android.sms>

I'd start with those to explore for rotation features...

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#57590

In article <psndev$h0o$1@news.mixmin.net>, arlen michael holder
<arlen_michael_holder@example.com> wrote:

> 
> > messaging apps don't interoperate, so use the one that the people you
> > want to talk to use.
> 
> Is that a joke?

no. whatsapp, facebook messenger, viber, signal and the rest are all
separate platforms, although some might fall back to sms.

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#57593

In comp.mobile.android, arlen michael holder wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:14:02 -0500, nospam wrote:
>> messaging apps don't interoperate, so use the one that the people you
>> want to talk to use.
> Is that a joke?

Probably a misunderstanding. QKSMS won't interoperate with with What's
App or Telegram. But it will interoperate with other SMS apps.

> In addition, if we look for the _best_ third-party free message apps, 
> maybe we'll find a venn diagram overlap of the best to test for the OP.

> o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>

This one seems good to me, but I'm not OP. I just got a new phone which
came with a new SMS client and it was doing Google-ish things like
suggest answers to SMS messages. Which is a big fucking no-no in my
book, so I was on the look-out for a better SMS app. This is open
source, doesn't show ads (it does have a way to send donations, which
gets flagged as "in app purchase" in Play Store), and doesn't ask for
unnecessary permissions.

Elijah
------
would take suggestions for open source non-stock phone app

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#57595

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:39:52 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

> Probably a misunderstanding. QKSMS won't interoperate with with What's
> App or Telegram. But it will interoperate with other SMS apps.

Thanks for being kind to nospam, where I full well knew exactly what nospam
was talking about since I read every post on this ng, where there's
currently a huge thread where almost everyone falls into one of two camps:
o Those who think proprietary VOIP apps are all the rage (for everyone).
o Those who think standards-based SMS/MMS works just fine (for them).

What's interesting is that the proprietary VOIP camp seems to have entirely
unreasonable assumptions that require everyone to follow, and where the
standards-based SMS/MMS camp is entirely pragmatic, where the apps work
fine for them, and which work for everyone.

For me, for example, I deplore proprietary solutions. If the texting app
doesn't work with the standard default apps on EVERY phone, then it's a
nearly worthless, and almost completely useless app, IMHO.

Nonetheless, proprietary-versus-standard politics aside, I surmised the OP
was asking about the non-proprietary solutions, which are the default app
on every phone (AFAIK).

>> o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>
> 
> This one seems good to me, but I'm not OP. I just got a new phone which
> came with a new SMS client and it was doing Google-ish things like
> suggest answers to SMS messages. Which is a big fucking no-no in my
> book, so I was on the look-out for a better SMS app. This is open
> source, doesn't show ads (it does have a way to send donations, which
> gets flagged as "in app purchase" in Play Store), and doesn't ask for
> unnecessary permissions.

Thanks for running a first pass on that SMS app. 
I'm fine with my default SMS app, but it doesn't do two things I'd like it
to do, so I'll look around also at the SMS apps to see which of that short
list make sense).

I'll test out the QKSMS app first, and report back so that, as always,
everyone benefits from every action (I deplore imaginary solutions, which
people like nospam excel in).

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#57599

In comp.mobile.android,
arlen michael holder  <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> wrote:
> Thanks for being kind to nospam, where I full well knew exactly what nospam
> was talking about since I read every post on this ng, where there's
> currently a huge thread where almost everyone falls into one of two camps:
> o Those who think proprietary VOIP apps are all the rage (for everyone).
> o Those who think standards-based SMS/MMS works just fine (for them).

Voice Over Internet Protocol is a completely different form of
communication than Simple Message Service (aka "texts"). I read very
little of this group but I suspect that's not a fair summary of
positions.

Elijah
------
selects a few threads by subject and junks the rest

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#57601

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 04:00:18 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

> Voice Over Internet Protocol is a completely different form of
> communication than Simple Message Service (aka "texts"). I read very
> little of this group but I suspect that's not a fair summary of
> positions.

Let's get back to choosing a better SMS/MMS app for _this_ thread.

If we want to waste our time on the politics of the proprietary versus
non-proprietary texting solutions, we can join _that_ thread (which is
already well over a hundred posts long) so there's no need for it here.

*Let's get back to choosing a better SMS/MMS app for _this_ thread.*
o I installed the QK SMS app, just like you did, so we can compare notes
o As a test, while in the default SMS, I deleted an entire set of texts
o Then I started up the QK SMS app
o Upon first use, it asked to be the default, and it took it
o Just like that (it was too easy, that I had to check that it worked)
o Then I checked the messages, and, yup, it was faithful to the original
o All the texts were there except the ones I deleted in the default app
o Then I checked the QK SMS settings
- I noticed it has an "inbox" and an "archived" section (interestingly)
- It seems to have an automatic-blocking capability ("should I answer")
- It has a global "delayed sending" option (what for?)
- It can prevent non-mobile numbers from showing up when composing
- It can auto-compress MMS attachments to any of 7 sizes
  100KB, 200KB, 300KB, 600KB, 1MB, 2MB, or no compression
- And it does a couple other things which aren't all that important

One thing that is nice that I hadn't expected is that it can SEARCH your
"inbox" for a keyword, and find _all_ the messages that have that keyword!

Who knew!
Not me.

QKsms seems to have a only a couple payware options:
o Backup and restore
o Schedule messages

And, I haven't seen an ad yet (if it has ads, I'll ditch it, as NONE of my
apps have ads unless it's the only app on the planet that does the job).

In the past, I recall an SMS-scheduler for messages you want to schedule
(either one time, or repeatedly), so that's the only thing, I think, that
is missing.

Oh, I forgot to test the sidewise thing for the OP...
o It seems to work in both portrait mode & landscape mode for me!

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#57602

> I recall an SMS-scheduler for messages you want to schedule
>(either one time, or repeatedly), so that's the only thing, I think, that
>is missing.

There are a multitude of Android apps called SMS Scheduler. I use this
one. It has very flexible scheduling, including recurring events. It's
not on Google Play anymore for some reason.

SMS Scheduler (by Gizmoquip LLC)
https://www.amazon.com/Gizmoquip-LLC-SMS-Scheduler/dp/B00D7JCRO8
https://gizmoquip.com/sms-scheduler.php

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#57604

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 00:48:39 -0600, M.L. wrote:

> SMS Scheduler (by Gizmoquip LLC)
> https://www.amazon.com/Gizmoquip-LLC-SMS-Scheduler/dp/B00D7JCRO8
> https://gizmoquip.com/sms-scheduler.php

Thanks for that keyword search term, where the first hit was this:
 <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.yeriomin.smsscheduler/>

And where you are totally correct in that there are a billion of these
on Google Play.

For example.
o SMS Scheduler Free, by Ulka International Pvt Ltd
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ulka.sms_scheduler_trial>

o SMS Scheduler, by Juboraj Sarker
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.juborajsarker.smsscheduler>

o Do It Later - Message Scheduler, by Hnib
  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hnib.smslater>

I installed the F-Droid one, and scheduled a message where the GUI seems to
be kind of nice (you just scroll to the date and time and then type the
recipient and message and set how many times you want it to be sent).

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#57603

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 05:52:46 -0000 (UTC), arlen michael holder wrote:

> QKsms seems to have a only a couple payware options:
> o Backup and restore
> o Schedule messages

I am testing out these four, which claim the following...
o QK SMS
  - 100% ad free 
  - auto compress MMS
  - search messages
o Mood Messenger
  - 100% ad free 
  - Typing indicator to see when the contact is writing
  - Private conversations password protected
  - Schedule messages
  - Pin important messages at the top of the list
o Handsent SMS
  - Encrypted messages
  - backup
  - scheduled messages
  - pin favorites to the top
  - search messages
o Chomp SMS
  - passcode app lock
  - private messages
  - scheduled sms 
  - revoke text
  - pin favorites to the top
  - backup text 
  - auto save pictures to the gallery

If others can test the rest, we'll have a good survey for all.

BTW, a quick peek at all four showed that they all rotated the screen when
I rotated the phone, so the OP can't go wrong on that with any of them.

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#57627

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 04:00:18 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

> Voice Over Internet Protocol is a completely different form of
> communication than Simple Message Service (aka "texts"). I read very
> little of this group but I suspect that's not a fair summary of
> positions.

Do they make an Internet solution that is _not_ proprietary?
I don't know. Do they?

I must admit I made a thinko, where I wrote VOIP, but what I really meant
was the Internet solutions (which are all, I think, proprietary in that the
other person has to be on the same damn solution - which is a huge cost).

As such, I knew full well the idiocy that nospam was spewing, since that
super long thread contains so many posts from so many idiots that it's not
funny.

Basically they all seem to fall into one of two camps:
o Either they think Internet (proprietary) solutions are all the rage, or, 
o They're just fine with the default SMS-based non-proprietary solution.

What I'm calling Internet "proprietary" solutions are things like WhatsApp
where the limitation is that everyone has to be on it (which is, IMHO, a
ridiculous limitation), but where the advantage is mostly that it's "free"
for those who need free because it uses the "Internet" instead of SMS/MMS
channels.

*Lord knows, I love free* ... but the _cost_ for that free is huge!

It's just a fact that I'd be hard pressed, where I live to find cellular
service that is _not_ free unlimited texting, so it's a needs-based thing,
where, the reality is...
o If you _need_ the "free" of an Internet based solution, then use it.
o Otherwise, why on earth would you use it?

The people in _that_ thread said it does groups better than SMS but they
are full of shit as regular SMS does groups just fine. They said a _lot_ of
crap in that thread, where most of it was due to sheer ignorance (e.g.,
they said "nobody uses SMS", which is just ignorant horse shit).

The truth of the matter is, as I see it, that:
o The internet solutions are great if you need the "free" they provide,
o But, the _cost_ of those Internet solutions is vast (compatibility).

Do they make an Internet solution that is _not_ proprietary?
I don't know. Do they?

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#57610

In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Nov 2018 21:39:44 -0000 (UTC), arlen
michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:14:02 -0500, nospam wrote:
>
>> messaging apps don't interoperate, so use the one that the people you
>> want to talk to use.
>
>Is that a joke?

Eli the Bearded says he doesn't read the group much, so he doesn't know
that if there's a way to disagree with what is said, nospam will find
it. 

>Anyway, as with what Frank said, my stock messaging app rotates just fine.
>
>It's the stock SMS app for the LG Stylo 3 Plus, Nougat 7.0 for T-Mobile.
>It's called "Messaging version 5.30.61.002" in the Android app settings.
>
>I backed it up to an APK so that I could give the OP the full name:
> Messaging-com.android.mms-53061002-v5.30.61.002.apk
>
>If desired, I can upload that app to a binary site for the OP.

From your offer, I gather you don't think being for an LG phone will be
a problem for a Xioami phone. 

So yes, I'd appreciate it a lot if you'd upload it somewhere. 

>In addition, if we look for the _best_ third-party free message apps, 
>maybe we'll find a venn diagram overlap of the best to test for the OP.
><https://www.androidauthority.com/best-texting-apps-for-android-653970/>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p1.chompsms>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.app.nextsms>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>
>
><https://www.androidcentral.com/best-text-messaging-apps>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>
>o <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>
>
><https://www.androidpit.com/best-sms-apps-android
>o Features
>  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo>
>  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p1.chompsms>
>o Customization
>  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.handcent.app.nextsms>
>o Simplicity
>  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
>o Desktop integration
>  <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mysms.android.sms>
>
>I'd start with those to explore for rotation features...

Wow. There are a lot, and I don't think any are likely to list Rotate as
a feature.  Reviews might say if one doesn't rotate, but I would guess
that all of them do. I'm surprised that mine doesn't. It's hard enough
to type a long text rotated, using ones thumbs, even harder in portrait
position with smaller keys.  

I don't know how to write android code but I would think it's only a few
lines to make something rotatable.  

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#57614

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:55:28 -0500, micky wrote:

> Wow. There are a lot, and I don't think any are likely to list Rotate as
> a feature.  

I tested _every_ one on rotation for you, micky.
They _all_ rotated on my LG Stylo 3 Plus Nougat 7.0.

That's all I can tell you.
Of the bunch, the QKSMS works the best for me, but each has nice things.

All of the ones I tested are far *better* than the LG native app, so I no
longer recommend the LG native app (now that I have them).

For me, what's working GREAT (in my limited tests anyway) are these two:
1. QKSMS
   <https://f-droid.org/packages/com.moez.QKSMS/>
   <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>
2. SMS Scheduler (the F-Droid one)
   <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.yeriomin.smsscheduler/>

The second app works fine alonside the first app (where I was worried only
one could be the "default" but it worked just fine).

That's my recommendation.


> Reviews might say if one doesn't rotate, but I would guess
> that all of them do. I'm surprised that mine doesn't. It's hard enough
> to type a long text rotated, using ones thumbs, even harder in portrait
> position with smaller keys. 

Yes. The fact is I can't get any of the SMS apps _not_ to rotate (without
setting a switch, of course, in the phone).

So I wonder if it's the app on your phone, or the phone, but you can tell
in a split second just by downloading and setting QKSMS up.

It works instantly. 
And, don't worry about the default as I tested it by going back to the old
SMS app. It worked great.

All my messages came along for the ride.

It takes less time to do it than it took me to type this up.
 
> I don't know how to write android code but I would think it's only a few
> lines to make something rotatable.

I don't know how to write Android code either, but I did see, somewhere,
about a week or so ago, as I recall, a switch that the developer can set,
so, it "could" be your app (but I don't know enough to say that for sure).

All I can say is that I think your solution may be this app:
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moez.QKSMS>
 <https://f-droid.org/packages/com.moez.QKSMS/>

If you have F-droid set up, I'd use that one first, as they tend to more
free of "shenanigans" but I don't know if there is a difference for a fact.

-- 
Too many people on Usenet propose "imaginary" solutions; mine are all real!

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#57635

nospam wrote:

> micky wrote:
> 
>> So what's a good texting app
> 
> messaging apps don't interoperate, so 

[...] refuse to use any of the whatsapp/viber/telegram/hangouts 
pretenders, just use real SMS

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>

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#57636

In article <g5e06aFf1ncU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> >> So what's a good texting app
> > 
> > messaging apps don't interoperate, so 
> 
> [...] refuse to use any of the whatsapp/viber/telegram/hangouts 
> pretenders, just use real SMS

real sms is primitive. messaging apps do quite a bit more, including
end-to-end encryption, embedded media, receipts, group chats, p2p
payments and will work on a desktop/laptop computer as well as over
wifi.

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#57638

nospam wrote:

> real sms is primitive. messaging apps do quite a bit more, including
> end-to-end encryption

Nothing I send via SMS needs encrypting

> embedded media

I would use email

> receipts

SMS supports delivery notifications (not all providers do, or some of 
them charge)

> group chats
> p2p payments

Neither are the sort of thing I use SMS for

> and will work on a desktop/laptop computer

The QR code link from a desktop browser to the Android Messaging app is 
quite neat

<https://messages.android.com>

> as well as over wifi.

There are more places where I have no WiFi than where I have no 2G coverage.

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