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  Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-15 00:00 -0500
    Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-15 00:02 -0500
      Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-01-15 05:09 +0000
        Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-16 02:42 -0500
          Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-01-16 08:32 +0000
            Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-16 06:54 -0500
            Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-16 15:03 -0500
              Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-01-16 16:37 -0800
                Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-17 00:16 -0500
      Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-01-15 18:45 -0800
        Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-16 02:38 -0500
    Re: Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-22 23:24 -0500

#37744 — Connecting Bluetooth over-one-ear headset to phone

I bought a bluetooth over-one-ear headset way last June, and I finally
got it to work with the PC.  I've tried a dozen times and every 3rd time
I get one step closer (though now it only works with phone calls
(there's a little green circle with a phone handset in it in the
headset, headphones, and headset-microphone entries (in the Wound
window.  Right click on the speaker icon in the systray and it's either
of the entries ending in "devices". 


But with the Blu phone runing Android 5 when it's ready to pair the
phone gives me a 6-digit number.  However there is no way I know to put
the number into the headset!!!  How do I do that?   Now that I know the
thing actually talks and plays, I want even more to get it to work,
especially before I go on a trip early march. 



...Back to the PC, even though it works, when I talk into it, I hear
what I'm saying a full second later.  I think this may be very confusing
if I try to have a full conversation instead of just a test (where I use
Skype to call my own phone so I can talk to a phone handset that is
lying on the desk)  Is a delay like this one-second delay normal? 

(When I talk into the desk phone instead, I hear that more quickly in
the earpiece, and more importantly, I only hear it once, because I won't
be in the same room as the other guy.  But when I talk, I hear that, and
then I hear it played back a second later. )    

I read that Bluetooth has a 30 or 100 foot range but when I'm 12 feet
behind the computer, with the Bluetooth :"dongle" plugged into the
front, fidelity is terrible.   This doesn't much matter because usually
I will be right in frront of the PC but is it normal. 

But If these things are not normal, maybe I should buy a better, or more
expensive, over one ear headset, although there's a pretty big jump from
30 to iirc 60 or 70.   This one Share had good ratings, but any
recommendations. 

Thanks. 

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#37745

And finally I recorded a lecture tonight, on the phone, using Sound
Recorder, the built-in app,  and I play it on the phone and it doesn't
sound so good so I wanted to use Bluetooth to play it on the PC.  Should
I be able to do that?  

 Can I make the phone like a wireless microphone for the PC? 



In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:00:07 -0500, micky
<NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I bought a bluetooth over-one-ear headset way last June, and I finally
>got it to work with the PC.  I've tried a dozen times and every 3rd time
>I get one step closer (though now it only works with phone calls
>(there's a little green circle with a phone handset in it in the
>headset, headphones, and headset-microphone entries (in the Wound
>window.  Right click on the speaker icon in the systray and it's either
>of the entries ending in "devices". 
>
>
>But with the Blu phone runing Android 5 when it's ready to pair the
>phone gives me a 6-digit number.  However there is no way I know to put
>the number into the headset!!!  How do I do that?   Now that I know the
>thing actually talks and plays, I want even more to get it to work,
>especially before I go on a trip early march. 
>
>
>
>...Back to the PC, even though it works, when I talk into it, I hear
>what I'm saying a full second later.  I think this may be very confusing
>if I try to have a full conversation instead of just a test (where I use
>Skype to call my own phone so I can talk to a phone handset that is
>lying on the desk)  Is a delay like this one-second delay normal? 
>
>(When I talk into the desk phone instead, I hear that more quickly in
>the earpiece, and more importantly, I only hear it once, because I won't
>be in the same room as the other guy.  But when I talk, I hear that, and
>then I hear it played back a second later. )    
>
>I read that Bluetooth has a 30 or 100 foot range but when I'm 12 feet
>behind the computer, with the Bluetooth :"dongle" plugged into the
>front, fidelity is terrible.   This doesn't much matter because usually
>I will be right in frront of the PC but is it normal. 
>
>But If these things are not normal, maybe I should buy a better, or more
>expensive, over one ear headset, although there's a pretty big jump from
>30 to iirc 60 or 70.   This one Share had good ratings, but any
>recommendations. 
>
>Thanks. 

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#37746

micky wrote:

> Can I make the phone like a wireless microphone for the PC?

Unlikely, just transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.

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#37759

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jan 2017 05:09:14 +0000, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>> Can I make the phone like a wireless microphone for the PC?
>
>Unlikely, just transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.

Now I realize that would  take an hour. It was an .ogg file and I copied
it to the PC with MyPhoneExplorer**, then emailed to to the friend who
missed the lecture I recorded.  The sound is fair but much better on the
PC than the liltle phone speaker. 

VLC and I believe Real Player play .ogg files. 

**This is the sort of reason I got that app, and then I forgot how
powerful it is. 

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#37761

micky wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.
>
> Now I realize that would  take an hour

Depends how you copy it ...

file transfer over bluetooth isn't fast, neither is a USB cable.

if the phone is connected to wifi then you could push it to an app such 
as dropbox, onedrive etc, then pull it down again on the PC, that will 
depend on your internet speed, if that's not fast (or you don't like the 
idea of your recording being in the cloud) you could get a cifs/smb 
client for the phone and copy it direct over wifi to a share on your PC

Lots of ways to skin the cat.

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#37763

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:32:44 +0000, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.
>>
>> Now I realize that would  take an hour
>
>Depends how you copy it ...

I realize I totally misread your reply, but in my defense, that was
because my original questoin was *how* to transfer it, but perhaps you
didn't see that one, or the second one replaced the first in your
attention. 
>
>file transfer over bluetooth isn't fast, neither is a USB cable.
>
>if the phone is connected to wifi then you could push it to an app such 
>as dropbox, onedrive etc, then pull it down again on the PC, that will 

I saw onedrive, etc. but I didn't want to do that, for the reason you
give below.   I wasn't in a hurry so I think bluetooth and usb would
have been fast enough but I ended up using MyPhoneExplorer, which went
directly to my PC and worked great. 

>depend on your internet speed, if that's not fast (or you don't like the 
>idea of your recording being in the cloud) you could get a cifs/smb 
>client for the phone and copy it direct over wifi to a share on your PC
>
>Lots of ways to skin the cat.

Indeed. 

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#37766

In article <ee3enpFdao3U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> >
> >> transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.
> >
> > Now I realize that would  take an hour
> 
> Depends how you copy it ...
> 
> file transfer over bluetooth isn't fast, neither is a USB cable.

file transfer over bluetooth is incredibly slow and over usb it's quite
fast.

> if the phone is connected to wifi then you could push it to an app such 
> as dropbox, onedrive etc, then pull it down again on the PC, that will 
> depend on your internet speed, if that's not fast (or you don't like the 
> idea of your recording being in the cloud) you could get a cifs/smb 
> client for the phone and copy it direct over wifi to a share on your PC

that's not as fast as usb, but far more convenient.

> Lots of ways to skin the cat.

yes

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#37771

On 1/16/2017 12:03 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <ee3enpFdao3U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> transfer it as a .wav or .mp3 to the PC and play it there.
>>>
>>> Now I realize that would  take an hour
>>
>> Depends how you copy it ...
>>
>> file transfer over bluetooth isn't fast, neither is a USB cable.
>
> file transfer over bluetooth is incredibly slow and over usb it's quite
> fast.
>
>> if the phone is connected to wifi then you could push it to an app such
>> as dropbox, onedrive etc, then pull it down again on the PC, that will
>> depend on your internet speed, if that's not fast (or you don't like the
>> idea of your recording being in the cloud) you could get a cifs/smb
>> client for the phone and copy it direct over wifi to a share on your PC
>
> that's not as fast as usb, but far more convenient.
>
>> Lots of ways to skin the cat.
>
> yes
>
If you have a windows computer, there's a tiny, easy to use http file
server called HFS.  www.rejetto.com

It's light weight.
You can configure it without a PHD in geek.
You turn it on/off with a click.
It serves only the files you drag/drop into the list.
You don't need any system permissions or passwords
to upload/download files.
You can run it wide open or with logins and passwords and
restrictions on a per-user basis.
You don't have to send your files into cloud storage.
You don't have to give anybody your network credentials.
You can access it from any device that has a web browser.
Did I mention that one click will turn it off for the 99.999%
of the time you don't need it?

I started using it when newer versions of windows REFUSED
to let me do network file transfers from an old Dell PDA.
With no way to upgrade the security policies on the PDA,
I needed a better solution.  HFS was it.

I quickly learned that it was WAY easier than trying to make
some linux distros talk to a windows network, enter passwords, etc.
I can work on my neighbor's computer without giving it full
network access to mine.

Got a browser and a network connection? You're good to go.

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#37775

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:37:10 -0800, mike wrote:

> If you have a windows computer, there's a tiny, easy to use http file
> server called HFS.  www.rejetto.com

Great. Thanks. Found it. A single .exe file for use on a Windows box. Also:

> It's light weight.
> You can configure it without a PHD in geek.
> You turn it on/off with a click.
> It serves only the files you drag/drop into the list. ... [etc.] ...

But it takes two to tango. And one of the partners must lead. So:

1) What's this help share files between? A Windows box and *what*?
2) What software does that partner need to have available?
3) For transferring files from that partner to the Win box, which device am
I to be steering/driving from?
4) To transfer files *to* that partner *from* the Win box, which device am
I to be steering/driving from?

I look forward to incorporating your responses in far easier transfers of
files between Windows and both assorted Android devices and a BB PlayBook.

So thanks very much. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#37756

On 1/14/2017 9:02 PM, micky wrote:
>
> And finally I recorded a lecture tonight, on the phone, using Sound
> Recorder, the built-in app,  and I play it on the phone and it doesn't
> sound so good so I wanted to use Bluetooth to play it on the PC.  Should
> I be able to do that?
>
>   Can I make the phone like a wireless microphone for the PC?
>
Have you considered going to the playstore and entering
"wireless microphone"?
or
"baby monitor"?
or
"ip camera"?
or
"surveillance monitor"?

I think I once tried ipcamera, it's a remote camera with sound,
but I can't find the phone I put it on.

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#37758

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:45:20 -0800, mike
<ham789@netzero.net> wrote:

>On 1/14/2017 9:02 PM, micky wrote:
>>
>> And finally I recorded a lecture tonight, on the phone, using Sound
>> Recorder, the built-in app,  and I play it on the phone and it doesn't
>> sound so good so I wanted to use Bluetooth to play it on the PC.  Should
>> I be able to do that?
>>
>>   Can I make the phone like a wireless microphone for the PC?
>>
>Have you considered going to the playstore and entering
>"wireless microphone"?

No, I hadn't. That sounds like a good idea, if instead of the mike I can
play a file that's already in the phone.     Well, now that I think
about it, that will take a full hour.  If I just transferred the file
wouldn't it take a lot less time?   Yeah, I think so, so this doesn't
fit my need afaict.   Thanks anyhow. 

Solved: see last paragraph.

I tried to transfer it tonight, and in the past when I plugged it into
the PC via USB, a notification that I was charging it would show up, and
tapping on that would take me to a page where I could set it to one or
another kind of data transfer.  But I've forgotten the 3 letter names
for them***, and I can't find the page in Settings. 

 ....Doing something else later**, I found that it was never USB
connected because it seems I was using a power only cable.  I knew about
such things but I guess I was confused.   I've mislaid the longer, data
cable, but fortunately I bought another shorter double cable (one lead
for power and  the other for power and data) and when I plugged that in,
it gave a Notivication -- Charge Only.  Tapping on that brought me to
the page USB Computer Connection, where I tried tapping Media Deive
(MTP), it showed up in File Manager on the PC.  

***MTP and PTP. 

When I tried to see what was inside, it wanted to know if I wanted to
treat it as a USB drive or iirc a CD.  I chose USB drive, and then it
wanted to format something.  That scared the hell out of me.  What could
I possibly format that woudl be good to do???  So I stopped. 


I also looked in File Manager, tapped on Share, and it had sharing by
Bluetooth, so I did that, it said Sending File, but then after 15
seconds it said File not Sent.  But no particular error message. (Later
from the Notification I found the log and sit said "No connection"
Bluetooth is running on the PC, only 8 inches away.  Tried 10 times, no
go. 

Eventually it downed on me to try MyPhoneExplorer.  That has to be
started in the PC and the phone and after that, somehow I brought up a
phone screen with 3 methods to connect to the phone, 
  Wifi, that was connected to my WAN 
  Bluetooth, which it said was active, and 
  USB cable, which it said was not connected, and that's when it dawned
on me that I might have changed cables to power only.  So I cahanged
again and now I'm connected.  But I was scared by t he offer to Format,
so that will have to wait.   (Maybe it was just formatting a virtual
drive that would somehow be the phone.  I don't think it was
reformatting the phone's memory. ) 

SOLVED: 
But over the WAN, My PhoneExplorer was just great. Took about 30 seconds
to copy 67 megs.   Thanks again to whoever told me about this app. 

>or
>"baby monitor"?
>or
>"ip camera"?
>or
>"surveillance monitor"?
>
>I think I once tried ipcamera, it's a remote camera with sound,
>but I can't find the phone I put it on.

These could come in handy for other things, like if I get a baby
somewhere. 

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#37857

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:00:07 -0500, micky
<NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I bought a bluetooth over-one-ear headset way last June, and I finally
>got it to work with the PC.  I've tried a dozen times and every 3rd time
>I get one step closer (though now it only works with phone calls
>(there's a little green circle with a phone handset in it in the
>headset, headphones, and headset-microphone entries (in the WSound
>window.  Right click on the speaker icon in the systray and it's either
>of the entries ending in "devices". 

I got this to work a little better, actually using it on a Skype call to
my home phone. 
>
>
>But with the Blu phone runing Android 5 when it's ready to pair the
>phone gives me a 6-digit number.  However there is no way I know to put
>the number into the headset!!!  How do I do that?   Now that I know the
>thing actually talks and plays, I want even more to get it to work,
>especially before I go on a trip early march. 

But this I could never get to work.   I had written the vendor twice
back when I had Vista and it wanted drivers, but he didn't reply. Now
the link doesn't work, so maybe he never got  the emails. 

Then I made a very tactful question to the question section of the
Amazon ad, and no one answered. 

Finally, after 7 months, I rated it as 2 stars but with a very tactful
comment that maybe I don't know how to use it.   And in the next day or
two I got an email from the vendor asking if I would revise the review
if a new one worked better.  Absolutely, I replied (and I told him
what's in the preceding two paragraphs.)   He followed in 15 minutes
with a code so I could get another one for free  -- no reference to the
rest of my email -- and it's coming in a few days. 

I hope it will work this time.  (It did get good ratings for the most
part)   If not I'm springing for the Plantagenet or whatever that is
called. 

I had taked the code entry place in Amazon to refer to Amazon itself,
but now I realize it can take vendor-specific codes too. 

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