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  Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 17:22 +0000
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2017-01-03 21:18 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 22:14 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 23:20 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:39 +0000
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 22:45 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:30 +0100
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:45 -0500
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:07 +0100
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 23:12 -0800
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:01 -0500
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 23:21 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 09:02 +0000
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Someone Somewhere <nntpac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 13:48 +0000
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:38 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:57 -0500
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:25 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:20 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:35 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:38 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chronos <usenet@chronos.org.uk> - 2017-01-07 17:11 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:21 -0500
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-07 19:30 +0000
                        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:24 -0500
                          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:46 +0000
                            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:50 -0800
                              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:05 +0000
                                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:09 -0800
                                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 11:07 -0500
                                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 14:10 -0500
                                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 09:45 -0800
                            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:05 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:13 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:35 -0500

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#36899 — Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK

I have had a '3' PAYG SIM in one slot of my Moto G2 from the outset and 
various other SIMS in the other slot from time to time. Hitherto, 
[except in Australia - see below] I have had "Preferred SIM for mobile 
data" set to '3'.

I have just acquired a PlusNet SIM which uses the EE network and have 
signed up for a monthly deal with inclusive minutes, texts and data - so 
now need to use that as the preferred SIM for mobile data.

Problem is that when I select that, it kills the '3' SIM stone dead and 
says "Mobile network not available" when I try to use it.

This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network Settings 
menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for each of the 
SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet SIM, and doesn't 
provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's set to 2G - and greyed 
out. I think this is the problem, because '3' SIMs won't work on 2G 
networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't permit both SIMs to be set to 
3G at the same time.

The only way I can find of getting both SIMs working at the same time is 
to set the Preferred SIM for mobile data back to '3' - but that's not 
what I want because that doesn't allow me to use the PlusNet data I've 
paid for.

It doesn't matter which SIM is in which slot - the result is exactly the 
same.

Has anyone come across this problem, and is there a solution?

[FWIW, I was in Australia recently and used a local (Amaysim) SIM in one 
slot - with the '3' SIM in the other slot in order to use 'feel at home' 
- and the two SIMs co-existed quite happily with Amaysim being used for 
data - so I'm not quite sure what's different.]
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#37242

In article <ec54opF9p36U1@mid.individual.net>,
Roger Mills  <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network Settings 
>menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for each of the 
>SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet SIM, and doesn't 
>provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's set to 2G - and greyed 
>out. I think this is the problem, because '3' SIMs won't work on 2G 
>networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't permit both SIMs to be set to 
>3G at the same time.

You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a single 3G
SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not aware of any way
around this as it's built into the hardware.

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#37246

On 03/01/2017 21:18, Mike S. wrote:
> In article<ec54opF9p36U1@mid.individual.net>,
> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network Settings
>> menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for each of the
>> SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet SIM, and doesn't
>> provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's set to 2G - and greyed
>> out. I think this is the problem, because '3' SIMs won't work on 2G
>> networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't permit both SIMs to be set to
>> 3G at the same time.
>
> You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
> chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a single 3G
> SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not aware of any way
> around this as it's built into the hardware.
>
>

Yes, that sounds about right! In my case it isn't limited to Slot 1 - 
but that doesn't solve anything. It gives 3G to whichever SIM is 
selected for mobile data and 2G to the other one. So, if I want to use 
anything other than the '3' SIM for mobile data - which I do - I'm stuffed!
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Cheers,
Roger
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#37250

Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> writes:

> On 03/01/2017 21:18, Mike S. wrote:
>> In article<ec54opF9p36U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network
>>> Settings menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for
>>> each of the SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet
>>> SIM, and doesn't provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's
>>> set to 2G - and greyed out. I think this is the problem, because '3'
>>> SIMs won't work on 2G networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't
>>> permit both SIMs to be set to 3G at the same time.
>>
>> You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
>> chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a
>> single 3G SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not
>> aware of any way around this as it's built into the hardware.
>
> Yes, that sounds about right! In my case it isn't limited to Slot 1 -
> but that doesn't solve anything. It gives 3G to whichever SIM is
> selected for mobile data and 2G to the other one. So, if I want to use
> anything other than the '3' SIM for mobile data - which I do - I'm
> stuffed!

I have a Moto G 2nd gen (XT1068) also. SIM 1 is FreedomPop (3 network)
as that is the only slot they support. I only use that for data at the
moment. SIM 2 is Talkmobile which I use for voice and SMS, presumably
that uses 2G only.

-- 
Pete Forman
https://payg-petef.rhcloud.com

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#37296

On 03/01/2017 23:20, Pete Forman wrote:
> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>  writes:
>
>> On 03/01/2017 21:18, Mike S. wrote:
>>> In article<ec54opF9p36U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network
>>>> Settings menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for
>>>> each of the SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet
>>>> SIM, and doesn't provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's
>>>> set to 2G - and greyed out. I think this is the problem, because '3'
>>>> SIMs won't work on 2G networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't
>>>> permit both SIMs to be set to 3G at the same time.
>>>
>>> You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
>>> chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a
>>> single 3G SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not
>>> aware of any way around this as it's built into the hardware.
>>
>> Yes, that sounds about right! In my case it isn't limited to Slot 1 -
>> but that doesn't solve anything. It gives 3G to whichever SIM is
>> selected for mobile data and 2G to the other one. So, if I want to use
>> anything other than the '3' SIM for mobile data - which I do - I'm
>> stuffed!
>
> I have a Moto G 2nd gen (XT1068) also. SIM 1 is FreedomPop (3 network)
> as that is the only slot they support. I only use that for data at the
> moment. SIM 2 is Talkmobile which I use for voice and SMS, presumably
> that uses 2G only.
>

Yes, Talkmobile will be using 2G.

I'm not sure what you mean by "that is the only slot they support". I 
think you'll find that if you swap the SIMs, FreedomPop will work ok on 
3G in slot 2 and Talkmobile will use 2G in slot 1. That is, unless 
FreedomPop behaves differently from other '3' SIMs.

I have the same phone, and I can use a 3G SIM in either slot - but *not* 
two at the same time. As i said earlier, 3G is allocated to whichever 
SIM is selected for mobile data, regardless of which slot it occupies.
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Roger
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#37346

Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> writes:

> On 03/01/2017 23:20, Pete Forman wrote:
>> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>  writes:
>>
>>> On 03/01/2017 21:18, Mike S. wrote:
>>>> In article<ec54opF9p36U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems to be related to the fact that in the Mobile Network
>>>>> Settings menu there is an item called "Preferred network type" for
>>>>> each of the SIMs. This is automatically set to 3G for the PlusNet
>>>>> SIM, and doesn't provide any other options. For the '3' SIM, it's
>>>>> set to 2G - and greyed out. I think this is the problem, because '3'
>>>>> SIMs won't work on 2G networks. It looks as if the phone doesn't
>>>>> permit both SIMs to be set to 3G at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
>>>> chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a
>>>> single 3G SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not
>>>> aware of any way around this as it's built into the hardware.
>>>
>>> Yes, that sounds about right! In my case it isn't limited to Slot 1 -
>>> but that doesn't solve anything. It gives 3G to whichever SIM is
>>> selected for mobile data and 2G to the other one. So, if I want to use
>>> anything other than the '3' SIM for mobile data - which I do - I'm
>>> stuffed!
>>
>> I have a Moto G 2nd gen (XT1068) also. SIM 1 is FreedomPop (3 network)
>> as that is the only slot they support. I only use that for data at the
>> moment. SIM 2 is Talkmobile which I use for voice and SMS, presumably
>> that uses 2G only.
>>
>
> Yes, Talkmobile will be using 2G.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "that is the only slot they support". I
> think you'll find that if you swap the SIMs, FreedomPop will work ok
> on 3G in slot 2 and Talkmobile will use 2G in slot 1. That is, unless
> FreedomPop behaves differently from other '3' SIMs.
>
> I have the same phone, and I can use a 3G SIM in either slot - but
> *not* two at the same time. As i said earlier, 3G is allocated to
> whichever SIM is selected for mobile data, regardless of which slot it
> occupies.

When I first got the FreedomPop SIM I tried to use it in slot 2 but that
did not work. I don't remember exactly what was happening but I think
there was a FAQ or somesuch which said to use slot 1. That might have
been a limitation of the accompanying app.

There are times when I cannot get reception on Talkmobile, which is my
primary contact number. In that situation I disable slot 1 to get TM
working. I presume that is because a 2G signal is not available and
switching off FP opens up TM to 3G.

-- 
Pete Forman
https://payg-petef.rhcloud.com

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#37275

Dne 03/01/2017 v 22:18 Mike S. napsal(a):

> You've nailed it. Most Chinese-designed dual-SIM phones use the same
> chipset and firmware arrangement, and that usually allows only a single 3G
> SIM to be active (often restricted to Slot 1). I am not aware of any way
> around this as it's built into the hardware.
> 
Not only Chinese.
For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
The other is just 2G.


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#37375

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:

> Not only Chinese.
> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
> The other is just 2G.

And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)

Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#37377

Dne 05/01/2017 v 07:45 tlvp napsal(a):
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:
> 
>> Not only Chinese.
>> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
>> The other is just 2G.
> 
> And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
> would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
> both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)
> 
> Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp
> 
My phone often reports after some time after last boot
the 2nd SIM is invalid, what can be fixed by anoother reboot only.
But I used it rarely, it was used because of my parents provider.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#37378

On 01/04/2017 10:45 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:
>
>> Not only Chinese.
>> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
>> The other is just 2G.
>
> And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
> would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
> both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)
>
> Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp

https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*

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#37435

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html

Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby difference.

>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*

Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, so that
the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#37441

On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>
> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby difference.

I was interested because I thought my next phone should have dual-SIM 
capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile account in one 
and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I make very few 
actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The bad part, of 
course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that have external 
sdcard capability.

Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or close) 
with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot.  Gone now, 
but I at least thought about it.

>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>
> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, so that
> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .

Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Ride faster, I hear banjo music!

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#37443

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:o4ngfl$k1i$1@dont-email.me...
> On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>>
>> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby 
>> difference.
>
> I was interested because I thought my next phone should have 
> dual-SIM capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile 
> account in one and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I 
> make very few actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The 
> bad part, of course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that 
> have external sdcard capability.
>
> Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or 
> close) with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot. 
> Gone now, but I at least thought about it.
>
>>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>>
>> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, 
>> so that
>> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .
>
> Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.
>
> -- 

Dear Contributor,
Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
We use GBP not USD
The range of products in the US is probably larger and definitely 
different from those available here
The prices in the UK are generally higher than in the US
Our market has a different structure and methodology to the US - for 
instance we don't pay to receive calls

What is a Moto X Pure?

What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account? We either pay a fixed 
contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the 
maximum period of non-use.


-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com 

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#37444

On 06/01/2017 09:02, Woody wrote:
>
> Dear Contributor,
> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>
And you missed the point this was x-posted to comp.mobile.android....

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#37447

-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com
"Someone Somewhere" <nntpac@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:o4nmv9$122b$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 06/01/2017 09:02, Woody wrote:
>>
>> Dear Contributor,
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>>
> And you missed the point this was x-posted to 
> comp.mobile.android....


Which was why I replied to all groups. Anyway what is he doing on a UK 
group talking about something of which we know not?



-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com 

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#37453

On 01/06/2017 01:02 AM, Woody wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o4ngfl$k1i$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>>>
>>> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby
>>> difference.
>>
>> I was interested because I thought my next phone should have
>> dual-SIM capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile
>> account in one and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I
>> make very few actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The
>> bad part, of course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that
>> have external sdcard capability.
>>
>> Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or
>> close) with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot.
>> Gone now, but I at least thought about it.
>>
>>>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>>>
>>> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position,
>>> so that
>>> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .
>>
>> Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.
>
> Dear Contributor,
> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-

This thread is x-posted into the US group.  No idea who started it.

> We use GBP not USD
> The range of products in the US is probably larger and definitely
> different from those available here
> The prices in the UK are generally higher than in the US
> Our market has a different structure and methodology to the US - for
> instance we don't pay to receive calls

Perhaps it all balances out then.

> What is a Moto X Pure?

A Motorola Moto X Pure cell phone.  I'm currently satisfied with my Moto 
G(2) phone, but more power/storage is always nice.

> What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account?

Through T-Mobile for $10US/year you get ~30 additional minutes which 
keep rolling over as long as you keep buying $10 worth of minutes 
annually.  The plan is no longer offered, but we lucky few were 
grandfathered in.  I live in fear that they'll completely cancel the 
plan because the next jump up is significantly more for minutes I don't 
need.

> We either pay a fixed
> contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the
> maximum period of non-use.

Similar here, but I'd be willing to bet that there are over 100 
different plans available from various providers.  I just happen to have 
the very cheapest one!

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "On the other hand, I live in California so I'd be willing to
    squeeze schoolchildren to death if I thought some oil would
    come out."                                    -- Scott Adams

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#37455

On 06/01/2017 17:06, The Real Bev wrote:


>> Dear Contributor,
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>
> This thread is x-posted into the US group. No idea who started it.
>

I did! I'm in the UK and thus posted it to uk.telecom.mobile - but also 
cross-posted it to comp.mobile.android (which incidentally is 
international, not just US) on the basis that Moto G2s are used in a 
number of countries.
-- 
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Roger
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#37457

In article <o4oino$cpp$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> > What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account?
> 
> Through T-Mobile for $10US/year you get ~30 additional minutes which 
> keep rolling over as long as you keep buying $10 worth of minutes 
> annually.  The plan is no longer offered, but we lucky few were 
> grandfathered in.  I live in fear that they'll completely cancel the 
> plan because the next jump up is significantly more for minutes I don't 
> need.

the plan is still offered, the only difference is that it now has a
$3/mo minimum because of people like yourself who keep a phone number
active yet never actually use it, which costs t-mobile money.

since most people make more than 10-30 minutes of calls (the per minute
rate can vary), that minimum is not normally an issue. 

> > We either pay a fixed
> > contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the
> > maximum period of non-use.
> 
> Similar here, but I'd be willing to bet that there are over 100 
> different plans available from various providers.  I just happen to have 
> the very cheapest one!

actually, you don't have the very cheapest one, that being entirely
free.

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#37481

On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:02:41 -0000, Woody wrote:

> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
> We use GBP not USD

I suppose uk.t.m is a UK group. But what you respond to appeared both there
and in comp.mobile.android, which suffers no such restriction, and at least
I am responding via the latter, as I imagine was The Real Bev, as well. Do
permit us to respond in our own currencies, please, without first
converting to yours :-) . Thank you. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#37494

On 01/06/2017 04:25 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:02:41 -0000, Woody wrote:
>
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>> We use GBP not USD
>
> I suppose uk.t.m is a UK group. But what you respond to appeared both there
> and in comp.mobile.android, which suffers no such restriction, and at least
> I am responding via the latter, as I imagine was The Real Bev, as well. Do
> permit us to respond in our own currencies, please, without first
> converting to yours :-) . Thank you. Cheers, -- tlvp

Can't we all just get along?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
   Is the Pope Catholic?  Do bears shit in the woods?
   Did Rose Kennedy have a black dress?

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