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| Started by | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| First post | 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500 |
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Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:27 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-12-31 12:15 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-31 21:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 00:07 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-01-01 20:21 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 20:57 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:01 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:08 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 04:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:10 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 14:42 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 05:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-12-31 15:49 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 01:00 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 20:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:30 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:50 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 19:47 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:20 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 20:59 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:18 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:51 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 11:56 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:14 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:49 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:43 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:47 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 14:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:02 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:15 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 16:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-04 06:05 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 01:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:54 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 00:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:37 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 14:05 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:37 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:40 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:40 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-07 23:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:45 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 22:32 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-09 15:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-09 10:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:33 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:14 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:55 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 08:41 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 06:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:57 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:19 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-07 22:06 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken1943 <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-31 11:27 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:12 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 19:38 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 12:37 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:53 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:46 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:25 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 12:12 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:34 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 04:17 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 08:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:23 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 18:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 17:58 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:28 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 23:29 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-03 21:56 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2016-12-31 16:11 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 19:58 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:35 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:35 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-01-02 12:28 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:16 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-03 11:24 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-12-31 17:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 13:27 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 19:04 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500
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| From | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500 |
| Subject | Free texting and calling via WiFi? |
| Message-ID | <o48rmm$t1k$1@dont-email.me> |
My friend has a young son with an Android phone, but with no paid phone service on the phone. My friend also has Cable Internet with a WiFi modem at home. Currently, his young son is able to use the WiFi connection at home to download and play free games and Apps from the Google Play Store. He can also use his phone to take pictures and videos and he can store them on his father's laptop by plugging in a USB cable to the laptop and transferring the photos and videos. My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid phone service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be able to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. If I could figure out how this all works, I could help my friend get it all set up on his son's phone. I heard that there may be free Apps like Hangouts that can do these things for free, but when I try looking into it I can't tell exactly how they would work. And, I can't tell if Hangouts, for example, would enable my friend's son to send and receive texts, photos, and phone calls to/from any cell phone -- or if it would only work if the other person also has the same App installed such as Hangouts (for example). Can anyone here suggest a way for me to set up my friend's son's phone to do these things for free? Which App or Apps should I try? Will they work in sending to/from ANY cell phone, or just to/from cell phones that have the same App installed? Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 13:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <311220161308242487%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37074 |
In article <o48rmm$t1k$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> wrote: > > My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid phone > service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and > maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be able > to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices.
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| From | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 13:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o48t78$3it$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37075 |
"nospam" wrote in message news:311220161308242487%nospam@nospam.invalid... > >In article <o48rmm$t1k$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> >wrote: > >> >> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid >> phone >> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and >> maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be >> able >> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. > >get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices. Thanks. Sorry, but I don't quite know what that means. Can you give an example of a voip app and a messaging app? I could then check those out and I'll know what they are and can then check other similar apps. -- I found this free and safe Windows Live Mail Newsreader QuoteFix program: WLMail QuoteFix -> http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 13:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <311220161347071844%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37076 |
In article <o48t78$3it$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> wrote: > >> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid > >> phone > >> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and > >> maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be > >> able > >> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. > > > >get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices. > > Thanks. Sorry, but I don't quite know what that means. a voip app, otherwise known as voice over ip, lets you make/receive phone calls using an internet connection rather than a cellular (or landline) connection. there may be fees involved, depending on the app and the voip service (if any). if you call to/fro a normal phone, there more than likely will be fees, as the termination cost has to be paid somehow, while with the same app on both ends, it's usually free. a messaging app sends/receives messages, usually with both sides needing the same app, although in some cases it can interoperate with standard sms/mms messages. it's usually free, often with ads, but in some cases, there may be fees or a limit on how many messages. > Can you give an example of a voip app and a messaging app? I could then > check those out and I'll know what they are and can then check other similar > apps. <http://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-apps-voip-sip-calls-wi-fi- calling-internet-calling-87396/> <http://www.androidauthority.com/best-texting-apps-for-android-653970/> there are others too.
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| From | Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 12:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vs0g6cdstnonvj9jfm56i7mf9f2l3t2c6d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37079 |
On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:47:07 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <o48t78$3it$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> >wrote: > >> >> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid >> >> phone >> >> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and >> >> maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be >> >> able >> >> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. >> > >> >get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices. >> >> Thanks. Sorry, but I don't quite know what that means. > >a voip app, otherwise known as voice over ip, lets you make/receive >phone calls using an internet connection rather than a cellular (or >landline) connection. there may be fees involved, depending on the app >and the voip service (if any). if you call to/fro a normal phone, there >more than likely will be fees, Google Voice is free.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 17:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bkag6cpbe7d5rq4jqjmmt3fkj19tu3s29g@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37084 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:15:17 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote: >On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:47:07 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> >wrote: > >>In article <o48t78$3it$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> >>wrote: >> >>> >> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid >>> >> phone >>> >> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and >>> >> maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be >>> >> able >>> >> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. >>> > >>> >get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices. >>> >>> Thanks. Sorry, but I don't quite know what that means. >> >>a voip app, otherwise known as voice over ip, lets you make/receive >>phone calls using an internet connection rather than a cellular (or >>landline) connection. there may be fees involved, depending on the app >>and the voip service (if any). if you call to/fro a normal phone, there >>more than likely will be fees, > > >Google Voice is free. Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that.
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o49ggr$o25$4@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37097 |
micky said: > Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it > interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that. I don't know the underlying technology but what happens is that you get a phone number where you can receive calls to that number and you can make calls as that number. Both GoogleVoice/Hangouts and Sideline give you a phone number that works just like a real phone for both SMS & voice (and both are free in the USA for the calls and everywhere for the SMS). So your phone can easily have 3 different phone numbers: 1. Your carrier-supplied phone number 2. Your free GV/HO supplied phone number 3. Your free sideline supplied phone number How the underlying technology woks is for someone else to explain.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 22:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qbsg6ctq9m5qldbbssqaeus5ehdo0ib8nr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37113 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 00:54:57 +0100, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: >micky said: > >> Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it >> interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that. > >I don't know the underlying technology but what happens is that you get a >phone number where you can receive calls to that number and you can make >calls as that number. > >Both GoogleVoice/Hangouts and Sideline give you a phone number that works >just like a real phone for both SMS & voice (and both are free in the USA >for the calls and everywhere for the SMS). > >So your phone can easily have 3 different phone numbers: >1. Your carrier-supplied phone number >2. Your free GV/HO supplied phone number >3. Your free sideline supplied phone number I think I'm going to faint. >How the underlying technology woks is for someone else to explain.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <311220162058043379%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37097 |
In article <bkag6cpbe7d5rq4jqjmmt3fkj19tu3s29g@4ax.com>, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >Google Voice is free. > > Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it > interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that. google voice gives you a phone number which forwards to one or more existing phone numbers.
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| From | ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 21:02 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <z8-dnVNKhvbW7PXFnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #37117 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <bkag6cpbe7d5rq4jqjmmt3fkj19tu3s29g@4ax.com>, micky
> <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > >Google Voice is free.
> >
> > Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it
> > interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that.
> google voice gives you a phone number which forwards to one or more
> existing phone numbers.
Ah, so it requires an existing phone number.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 00:07 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ecrkloFk5rkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37119 |
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <bkag6cpbe7d5rq4jqjmmt3fkj19tu3s29g@4ax.com>, micky
>> <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>> >Google Voice is free.
>>>
>>> Did I hear that that comes with its own phone number? Or that it
>>> interacts with the cell phone's phone number? something like that.
>
>> google voice gives you a phone number which forwards to one or more
>> existing phone numbers.
>
> Ah, so it requires an existing phone number.
Only if you want to use Google Voice as a PBX. You can have it forward
*calls* to it to one or several phone numbers with each having its own
schedule for when it will ring and which message to use depending on who
called. That's how I started with Google Voice: had it forward incoming
calls to my Google Voice number to my home VOIP, cell phones (had 3 at
the time), and work phone numbers. Or you can just use the Google Voice
phone number all by itself by using it for wi-fi calls using the
Hangouts Dialer app.
With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts
app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone
number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming
calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number.
My cellular provider has no signal strength at my home. I cannot make
outbound phone calls using the cellular service. But I can use the
Hangouts Dialer app to use wi-fi to make outbound calls through my
Google Voice phone number. I also get inbound calls to my Google Voice
number that come via wi-fi to my smartphone to the Hangout Dialer app.
My Google Voice account forwards incoming calls to my home VOIP phone
number (Comcast Voice) and to my smartphone's phone number (Tracfone).
(1) When there is no wi-fi connect (disabled or no hotspot):
(a) And there is no cell signal (too weak):
- Only my home VOIP phone rings.
(b) But there is a decent cell signal (I'm outside):
- My home VOIP phone rings.
- And my cell phone rings using the Phone app (which senses a
cellular call).
(2) When there is no cell signal:
(a) And there is no wi-fi connect:
- Only my home VOIP phone rings (same scenario as 1a).
(b) But there is a wi-fi connect:
- My home VOIP phone rings.
- And my cell phone rings using the Hangouts Dialer app (which
senses a wi-fi call).
(3) When there is both a cell signal and a wi-fi connect:
- My home VOIP phone rings.
- And my cell phone rings using the Phone app (for the cellular copy
of the incoming call).
- And my cell phone rings using the Hangouts Dialer app (for the
wi-fi copy of the incoming call).
It is a bit a nuisance for scenarion 3 that I have 2 apps ringing my
cell phone. The wi-fi connect is actually faster (by 2-3 rings) than
the cellular connect. So the Hangouts Dialer app tells me there is an
incoming call to my Google Voice number and then the Phone app appears
(and obliterates the Hangout Dialer app's screen) telling me Google
Voice forwarded the incoming call via cellular service. Often I would
prefer to pick up the incoming call using wi-fi but the Phone app is
rude and makes it impossible for me to get back to the Hangout Dialer
app to accept that version of the incoming call.
I could (and do) have my Google Voice account forward inbound calls to
its *phone number* to my home phone (VOIP from my ISP) and to my cell
phone. However, forwarding to my cell phone doesn't work when I'm at
home because I have no cell signal. So the only way Google Voice could
be ringing my cell phone at home is by using wi-fi connect with the
Hangouts Dialer app. It's pretty obvious when an incoming call to my
Google Voice phone number is using wi-fi to my cell phone: only the
Hangouts Dialer app shows an incoming phone call. If I have cell phone
service (enough signal strength) but no wi-fi connect (hotspots aren't
everywhere) then the Phone app on my phone shows an incoming call. The
call came in via cellular voice.
So you could use Google Voice to forward incoming calls to its phone
number to one, or more, of your other phone numbers. That's how I
started with Google Voice, like a PBX of one phone number to call many
phone numbers and which could change without my Google Voice number ever
changing. Then I found out about the Hangouts Dialer app that works
with my Google Voice account. First I installed the Google Voice app to
get my phone to prompt which dialer to use for outbound calls and
whether or not to make all outbound calls look to the callee like they
came from my Google Voice phone number or whether the caller saw me
calling from my cell phone number. Then I installed the Hangout Dialer
app to give me wi-fi calling (in and out). I also let the Hangout
Dialer steal some of the functions away from the Google Voice app to
give me better SMS/texting features.
So, with a Google Voice account and the Hangouts Dialer app (which works
in tandem with the pre-installed Hangouts apps) - and for my own reasons
for first adding in the Google Voice app - you could not have any
cellular service on your smartphone but still make and get calls via
wi-fi provided you actually have a wi-fi hotspot to which you can
connect. Wi-fi hotspots are not everywhere and don't have anywhere the
same range of country-wide coverage as does cellular service. I can use
the wi-fi settings in my smartphone to connect to some, keep them
remembered, and switch automatically to those when within range. I
don't use paid wi-fi hotspots, only free ones (but some may be
registered in that you have to login to use them - like many stores or
restaurants have one but you have to get the login to use it).
I use the Avast's Wi-Fi Finder, Wi-Fi Finder, and WifiMapper to let me
know where are the free wi-fi hotspots. The first two have an option to
automatically switch to a free non-registered wi-fi hotspot rather than
you happening to notice the smartphone has no wi-fi connection and doing
it manually.
Note that I also use Comcast's Voice2Go wi-fi calling (in and out)
service. Their Connect app lets me do wi-fi calling and their WiFi app
finds the "xfinitywifi" hotspots. I don't need to use xfinitywifi
hotspots with their Connect app for wi-fi calls. Any wi-fi connect will
work (as long as it is fast enough to support voice traffic). I just
add the Xfinity Wifi app to give a 4th wi-fi hotspot finder.
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:21 -0600 |
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Hmmm, I tried to apply for Google Voice but it wanted a phone number. :/
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ectts1F6ok2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37145 |
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote: > Hmmm, I tried to apply for Google Voice but it wanted a phone number. :/ I'm sure the son has parents.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 03:01 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <khpm6cp29a1gl1c69ae4vfo8ropu6hu21l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37145 |
>Hmmm, I tried to apply for Google Voice but it wanted a phone number. :/ callcentric.com can provide you with a free New York state inbound phone number. Requires receiving at least one inbound call every 3 months. You can forward your GV number to the callcentric.com phone number. Inbound callers can use your GV number to reach your phone, but any outbound calls will display the caller ID of your N.Y. state number unless you use the Google Voice app to force your GV number as your outbound caller ID. The FCC requires callcentric.com to charge a small monthly 911 fee. However, activation of that fee was not enforced when I used their free number many years ago.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 03:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <e9qm6cd9dc4s20bmd01neg8a0ov2ob3u5m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37124 |
>With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts >app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone >number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming >calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number. Google Duo video chat app can also be used for inbound/outbound GV Wifi calls.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 04:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ed1d7tF214lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37211 |
"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts >>app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone >>number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming >>calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number. > > Google Duo video chat app can also be used for inbound/outbound GV > Wifi calls. https://duo.google.com/ Almost zilch for describing the app there. Yeah, it does video calls - using what protocol? Don't even see Google Voice mentioned there. Looks like another VOIP-only (no phone number) Skype equivalent which means you only get to make pseudo-calls to other users of the same app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.tachyon&hl=en Hopefully, as you say, it will use wi-fi for Internet connectivity. "*Data charges may apply. Check your carrier for details." You don't want to suck up your cellular data minutes, and the son wanting wi-fi calls doesn't have any cellular service. From a review at the Play store, "When you start out you are inviting everyone on your contact list to download the app and hoping they will get all of their family and friends to get the app." That sure makes it sound like it is only an app-to-app video calling service. I wasn't trying to find a VOIP-only Skype equivalent as that sucks to make/receive phone calls from the vast majority of callees/callers, like your doctor, dentist, car shop, bank, store, or anyone else that either doesn't know about the app, won't install the app, or is just using a regular phone rather than a smartphone loaded with tons of apps they rarely use. Half the requested functionality was phone calling. The other half was texting. Does Google Duo do texting? The OP expressed no concern regarding doing video calls, just phone calls. You sure Google Duo isn't another proprietary video caller so only the son's friends also using it can video call to/from him? Adding video calling means requiring a much better wi-fi connection than needed just for voice only. At home, the son might have an okay wi-fi connect to his parent's wi-fi cable modem. When travelling, wi-fi hotspots are often not nearly as wide a pipe (for bandwidth) plus that is available is being shared. Some of the comments on the app at the Play store mentioned the video cuts out (halts, freezes) during a call but the audio continues okay. If it does it, I was not aware that Google Hangouts even does video calling. Never used it that way. Even if Hangouts has video calling, I'm not going to require those I call or those that call me to have the Hangouts app. https://www.cnet.com/products/google-duo/ "Whereas Hangouts can be used on desktops, supports messaging and group chats, and has multiway video for collaboration (and its interface reflects these extra features), Duo does one thing and one thing only: video calls on your phone or tablet." The author apparently missed the Hangouts Dialer companion app where he said, "Unlike Hangouts, it reaches people through their phone numbers, not their Gmail." If the Hangouts Dialer app did not exist, I wouldn't be bothering with Hangouts but then, unlike the son, I do have cellular service for phone calls and texting. Only after the Dialer app showed up did I then start looking at what the Hangouts app can do. Instead of getting locked into one app at both ends, I can call or get calls from anyone with a phone number regardless of how they access their phone service. I does look like Google will be replacing Hangouts with their Duo app, so I'll put Duo on my to-do list of apps to look at. For wi-fi phone calls, I don't want to require extra bandwidth at wi-fi hotspots not controlled by me and not for my sole use to handle the video load. Does Duo do voice-only calls? To me, video is just glitz - but if I do get into free video calling then this app is yet another choice. Too bad there is so damn little info about how it works on Google's pages. Is Google Duo using an open protocol that other apps can also use so there is no requirement that each endpoint has to use the same video calling app? I'm not going around to my family and friends telling them they must use the Google Duo app, especially since many just have dumb phones (home phones, flip/bar cellphones) or they are using someone else's non-smartphone phone. https://blog.google/products/duo/meet-google-duo-simple-1-to-1-video/ So maybe that's where you got the link up for the app to use a Google Voice service where you get an actual phone number. However, it looks like both endpoints in the call are locked into using the same app but maybe that is just for the video side of a call. Maybe it will do voice-only (audio-only) phone calls, too. Can't tell from Google's pages with no information.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 13:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <76sn6c1gh0j8uttb18j97t1mru03igk91f@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37218 |
>>>With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts >>>app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone >>>number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming >>>calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number. >> >> Google Duo video chat app can also be used for inbound/outbound GV >> Wifi calls. >Looks like another VOIP-only (no phone number) Skype equivalent which >means you only get to make pseudo-calls to other users of the same app. Duo supports video calls to/from GV and non-GV numbers. Both parties are required to use Duo but cellular charges will apply only to non-GV users. >https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.tachyon&hl=en >Hopefully, as you say, it will use wi-fi for Internet connectivity. >"*Data charges may apply. Check your carrier for details." You don't >want to suck up your cellular data minutes, and the son wanting wi-fi >calls doesn't have any cellular service. Duo and Hangouts work with any available Internet service. > From a review at the Play >store, "When you start out you are inviting everyone on your contact >list to download the app and hoping they will get all of their family >and friends to get the app." That sure makes it sound like it is only >an app-to-app video calling service. Yes, it is. > I wasn't trying to find a >VOIP-only Skype equivalent as that sucks to make/receive phone calls >from the vast majority of callees/callers, like your doctor, dentist, >car shop, bank, store, or anyone else that either doesn't know about the >app, won't install the app, or is just using a regular phone rather than >a smartphone loaded with tons of apps they rarely use. <snip> Duo does not yet support voice-only calling. That feature is planned though. Duo can make video calls to a non-GV# that uses the Duo app. Duo can accept video calls from a non-GV# that uses the Duo app. Duo calls made to a non-Duo user will prompt to complete the call via either Hangouts, Google Voice app or Messaging app. Hangouts GV account can make voice calls to non-GV#. Hangouts GV account can accept voice calls from non-GV#. Hangouts GV account can make video calls to another Hangouts GV. account
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ed2ebiFabfbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37230 |
"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>>With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts >>>>app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone >>>>number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming >>>>calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number. >>> >>> Google Duo video chat app can also be used for inbound/outbound GV >>> Wifi calls. > >>Looks like another VOIP-only (no phone number) Skype equivalent which >>means you only get to make pseudo-calls to other users of the same app. > > Duo supports video calls to/from GV and non-GV numbers. Both parties > are required to use Duo but cellular charges will apply only to non-GV > users. That's what I feared. Getting everyone you know to switch to yet another proprietary communications app is not what I'll be doing. That's why I haven't gotten into video calling. What I might use is not what I demand someone else to use. Too bad Google didn't go with an open or merged communications standard or, at least, publish theirs so other video/chat apps can use it. This is similar to many online file storage services: you can share a file but only if each participant enlists into the same service. If a buddy and me agree to share files, like for a coding project, using the same file service then great. That's a unique scenario. I'm not going to generally demand that anyone else with whom I communicate must use the same service or the same app as me. Just because a bunch of my friends enlisted at Facebook did not make me go there. Yuck. Probably why I never got into video "calling" using Hangouts is because I won't demand the other party to also use the Hangouts app. I need and want communication to support disparate setups. So, for me, video calling is not yet a viable option. > Duo does not yet support voice-only calling. That feature is planned > though. From some reading, it looks like Duo is to replace Hangouts. So they will have to incorporate voice-only calling. I'll keep monitoring to see when that happens and then trial Duo to see if it is a viable replacement. > Duo calls made to a non-Duo user will prompt to complete the call via > either Hangouts, Google Voice app or Messaging app. So there's no reason for me to yet replace the Hangouts app (and its Dialer companion app). Seems Duo is progressing as did Hangouts. When Hangouts first showed up, there wasn't much to it but it grew by incorporating other services. Just doesn't seem like Google knows where it is headed with telephony. The problem with their experiments (which they do not always announce as experiments) is that their lifespan is, on average, only about 3 years. That's why I have a backup plan to Google Voice as a PBX by using my own ISP's PBX feature which has some of the same features as Google Voice but not nearly as configurable.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 14:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <sm2o6cpbsvebe018tk189vibvsnf9m29ef@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37234 |
>>>Looks like another VOIP-only (no phone number) Skype equivalent which >>>means you only get to make pseudo-calls to other users of the same app. No pseudo-calls since Duo can be used with any telephone number. >> Duo supports video calls to/from GV and non-GV numbers. Both parties >> are required to use Duo but cellular charges will apply only to non-GV >> users. > >That's what I feared. Getting everyone you know to switch to yet >another proprietary communications app is not what I'll be doing. >That's why I haven't gotten into video calling. What I might use is not >what I demand someone else to use. Too bad Google didn't go with an >open or merged communications standard or, at least, publish theirs so >other video/chat apps can use it. I don't think there's any way to do two-way video calling without using the same client. >> Duo does not yet support voice-only calling. That feature is planned >> though. > >From some reading, it looks like Duo is to replace Hangouts. So they >will have to incorporate voice-only calling. I'll keep monitoring to >see when that happens and then trial Duo to see if it is a viable >replacement. From what I read, Hangouts is to be used for business clients. >> Duo calls made to a non-Duo user will prompt to complete the call via >> either Hangouts, Google Voice app or Messaging app. > >So there's no reason for me to yet replace the Hangouts app (and its >Dialer companion app). At this time Duo is strictly for video calling. But it's very good at what it does.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-04 05:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <legp6cdeu4rls3jo89dpvgc2rejo1io0cb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37218 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Jan 2017 04:37:49 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >"M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: > >>>With the Google Hangouts Dialer app (a companion to the Google Hangouts >>>app), you can make wi-fi calls out through your Google Voice phone >>>number. You can also use the Hangouts Dialer app to pickup incoming >>>calls via wi-fi made to your Google Voice phone number. >> >> Google Duo video chat app can also be used for inbound/outbound GV >> Wifi calls. > >https://duo.google.com/ >Almost zilch for describing the app there. Another thing about the apps in the play store. It never says how big they are. Downloadable programs for the PC and Mac usually say that in advance, and they all say it between downloading and installing. > Yeah, it does video calls - >using what protocol? Don't even see Google Voice mentioned there. My complaint too, assuming it's really required, which the people here have convinced me it is. >Looks like another VOIP-only (no phone number) Skype equivalent which >means you only get to make pseudo-calls to other users of the same app. > >https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.tachyon&hl=en >Hopefully, as you say, it will use wi-fi for Internet connectivity. I suspect it will. >"*Data charges may apply. Check your carrier for details." You don't >want to suck up your cellular data minutes, and the son wanting wi-fi >calls doesn't have any cellular service. From a review at the Play >store, "When you start out you are inviting everyone on your contact >list to download the app and hoping they will get all of their family >and friends to get the app." That sure makes it sound like it is only >an app-to-app video calling service. Yes, I think so, although if installation had succeeded, I'd have a better idea. > I wasn't trying to find a >VOIP-only Skype equivalent as that sucks to make/receive phone calls >from the vast majority of callees/callers, like your doctor, dentist, >car shop, bank, store, or anyone else that either doesn't know about the >app, won't install the app, or is just using a regular phone rather than >a smartphone loaded with tons of apps they rarely use. Almost everyone you can call at work, especially if they're behind a switchboard, uses a real phone, no smartphone. Although the car dealer I went to had a fancy voip phone, I think. But I didnt' get to talk about the phone. > >Half the requested functionality was phone calling. The other half was >texting. Does Google Duo do texting? Dunno. >The OP expressed no concern regarding doing video calls, just phone >calls. You sure Google Duo isn't another proprietary video caller so >only the son's friends also using it can video call to/from him? Some phones are now shipping with Duo installed. One writer thought it was replacing Hangouts. So it eventually won't just be his son's friends. But it might have to running to receive calls, so that's still a big problem. >Adding video calling means requiring a much better wi-fi connection than >needed just for voice only. At home, the son might have an okay wi-fi >connect to his parent's wi-fi cable modem. When travelling, wi-fi >hotspots are often not nearly as wide a pipe (for bandwidth) plus that >is available is being shared. Some of the comments on the app at the >Play store mentioned the video cuts out (halts, freezes) during a call >but the audio continues okay. Hmmm. >If it does it, I was not aware that Google Hangouts even does video >calling. Never used it that way. Even if Hangouts has video calling, I'm sure it does, because that's part of what Duo might be replacing. If Hangouts didn't have video, they wouldn't have called it replacing. >I'm not going to require those I call or those that call me to have the >Hangouts app. > >https://www.cnet.com/products/google-duo/ >"Whereas Hangouts can be used on desktops, supports messaging and group >chats, and has multiway video for collaboration (and its interface >reflects these extra features), Duo does one thing and one thing only: >video calls on your phone or tablet." The author apparently missed the >Hangouts Dialer companion app where he said, "Unlike Hangouts, it >reaches people through their phone numbers, not their Gmail." If the >Hangouts Dialer app did not exist, I wouldn't be bothering with Hangouts >but then, unlike the son, I do have cellular service for phone calls and >texting. Only after the Dialer app showed up did I then start looking Is that the name? Or is it Hangouts Dialer? >at what the Hangouts app can do. Instead of getting locked into one app >at both ends, I can call or get calls from anyone with a phone number >regardless of how they access their phone service. I does look like >Google will be replacing Hangouts with their Duo app, so I'll put Duo on >my to-do list of apps to look at. > >For wi-fi phone calls, I don't want to require extra bandwidth at wi-fi >hotspots not controlled by me and not for my sole use to handle the >video load. Does Duo do voice-only calls? To me, video is just glitz - >but if I do get into free video calling then this app is yet another >choice. Too bad there is so damn little info about how it works on >Google's pages. A lot of app pages are like that. > Is Google Duo using an open protocol that other apps >can also use so there is no requirement that each endpoint has to use >the same video calling app? I'm not going around to my family and >friends telling them they must use the Google Duo app, especially since >many just have dumb phones (home phones, flip/bar cellphones) or they >are using someone else's non-smartphone phone. > >https://blog.google/products/duo/meet-google-duo-simple-1-to-1-video/ Very good page. Thanks. It says "You shouldn’t have to worry about.... if your friend is using the same type of device as you are." Oops. It says "device". I thought it said app, which would have answered your big question. But they just mean Android and IOS. So I think it only works with other Duo-running devices. It says " Duo will switch between Wi-Fi and cellular data automatically without dropping your call. You can start your call at home, and continue seamlessly even when you head out the door." But will it switch back to wifi when you go back into the house? Maybe so. After all, you had both wifi and cellular when you first started the call, and they seem to say it used wifi, so maybe it will switch back. They make it sound very much improved, which sounds like it means improved over Hangouts. I suspect it is, since it's coming out 2 years later or so, iirc. >So maybe that's where you got the link up for the app to use a Google >Voice service where you get an actual phone number. However, it looks >like both endpoints in the call are locked into using the same app but >maybe that is just for the video side of a call. Maybe it will do >voice-only (audio-only) phone calls, too. Can't tell from Google's >pages with no information. " Aug 16, 2016....We’re beginning to roll out Duo for Android and iOS today, and it will be live worldwide in the next few days."
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