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| Started by | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| First post | 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500 |
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Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:27 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-12-31 12:15 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-31 21:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 00:07 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-01-01 20:21 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 20:57 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:01 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:08 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 04:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:10 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 14:42 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 05:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-12-31 15:49 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 01:00 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 20:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:30 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:50 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 19:47 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:20 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 20:59 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:18 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:51 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 11:56 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:14 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:49 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:43 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:47 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 14:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:02 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:15 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 16:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-04 06:05 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 01:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:54 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 00:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:37 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 14:05 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:37 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:40 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:40 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-07 23:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:45 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 22:32 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-09 15:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-09 10:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:33 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:14 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:55 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 08:41 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 06:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:57 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:19 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-07 22:06 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken1943 <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-31 11:27 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:12 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 19:38 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 12:37 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:53 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:46 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:25 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 12:12 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:34 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 04:17 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 08:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:23 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 18:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 17:58 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:28 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 23:29 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-03 21:56 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2016-12-31 16:11 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 19:58 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:35 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:35 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-01-02 12:28 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:16 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-03 11:24 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-12-31 17:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 13:27 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 19:04 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 18:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4bfgm$nog$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37127 |
Frank Slootweg said: > Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone > number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less > (Android) tablet. Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot. 1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet? 2. Are you in the USA? If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet. I have used that plan with HO/GV successfully to use the tablet as a speakerphone while traveling, so I know it works beautifully to bilaterally connect with US "real" phone numbers for free. PS: I see the term POTS which I know covers traditional land lines, but what is the word for a real 10-digit phone number which can be: a. POTS (aka land line) b. VOIP (aka Oooma, Vonage, MagickJack, Sideline, etc.) c. Mobile (aka cellular) Does the term POTS cover all three types of 10-digit phone numbers?
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ect7vvF1rteU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37131 |
Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > Frank Slootweg said: > > > Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone > > number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less > > (Android) tablet. > > Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot. Well, *I* don't have any kind of problem which needs solving, I just gave some answers/information. :-) Having said that ... > 1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet? No. That's what I meant with 'SIM-less', but indeed one can have a slot for a SIM card without having a SIM card in that slot, so my "SIM-less" was a little bit too terse! :-) > 2. Are you in the USA? No, The Netherlands. > If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile > which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet. > > I have used that plan with HO/GV successfully to use the tablet as a > speakerphone while traveling, so I know it works beautifully to bilaterally > connect with US "real" phone numbers for free. Yeah, we also used the tablet (with Skype) as a speaker-phone (during our travels in Australia), so the both of us could talk to our loved ones at home. We also found that our smart-phone (with Skype) works best as a normal (non-speaker) phone, i.e. with the phone held to one's head. I actually found both behaviours an advantage, because it's the most logical use-model. A data 'plan' is not a problem for us (for Skype voice use). In Europe we can use our Dutch provider without extra cost and outside Europe (i.e. also in Australia) we use a local SIM/provider. > PS: I see the term POTS which I know covers traditional land lines, but > what is the word for a real 10-digit phone number which can be: > a. POTS (aka land line) > b. VOIP (aka Oooma, Vonage, MagickJack, Sideline, etc.) > c. Mobile (aka cellular) > > Does the term POTS cover all three types of 10-digit phone numbers? The term POTS indeed covers a., but only a.. (see for example the Wikipedia page). I normally use 'telephone number', 'telephone call', etc. for a+b+c. For example my 'fixed' line (i.e. 'a.') is VOIP-based (i.e. 'b.'). But who gives is toss knowing it's VOIP, when I call or when they call me? It's just a telephone call/number. 'c.' is of course a different category, for many reasons.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-02 03:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <sh2k6cdgu1phsonk8frr7bsf1kl2ubmf1a@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37131 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:49:58 +0100, Yanis Bernard
<YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote:
>Frank Slootweg said:
>
>> Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone
>> number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less
>> (Android) tablet.
>
>Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot.
>
>1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet?
>2. Are you in the USA?
>
>If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile
>which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet.
Are there locked tablets like there are locked phones?
This page says it's $20 but $4 with the promocode SIMDEAL.
https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-3-in-1-SIM-Starter-Kit
Also says
"Works with unlocked, GSM phones. Unlocked, GSM-capable phones that
support Band II (1900 MHz) or IV (1700/2100 MHz) are compatible with
T-Mobile’s network. CDMA phones are not compatible with the T-Mobile
network.
We'll send your ready-to-use SIM card to you in the mail. Keep your
existing phone number or select a new one. Service required for
activation. T-Mobile’s prepaid plans feature no annual contracts,
domestic overages or credit checks.
Works with all T-Mobile phones."
I have, on the old phone, 2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
It only gets 2.5 stars out of 5, on only 2 ratings, One guy gives it 4
(evem though he calls it perfect) and says he can't understand what the
other guy is complaining about.
But I don't understand what it would do for me, on my old phone. 200MB
is practically nothing, right? And like anyone, I already get free
data with wifi, so this would just be for emergencies I guess, but I
don't know what a data emergency would be. Maybe I'm groggly because
it's 3AM.
>I have used that plan with HO/GV successfully to use the tablet as a
>speakerphone while traveling, so I know it works beautifully to bilaterally
>connect with US "real" phone numbers for free.
I don't have a tablet and it will take me hours of obsessing to decide
how big it should be and how expensive, so I'm probably not going to get
one.
>PS: I see the term POTS which I know covers traditional land lines, but
>what is the word for a real 10-digit phone number which can be:
>a. POTS (aka land line)
>b. VOIP (aka Oooma, Vonage, MagickJack, Sideline, etc.)
>c. Mobile (aka cellular)
>
>Does the term POTS cover all three types of 10-digit phone numbers?
No. Only the first. That's what "plain" and "old" mean, b and c are
not old. I guess "plain" is an intensifier.
I don't know what the word would be. "A numbered line"? Nah, sounds
too much like a numbered Swiss bank account.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-02 10:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o4e75h$lbu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37156 |
On 01/02/2017 12:23 AM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:49:58 +0100, Yanis Bernard
> <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote:
>
>>Frank Slootweg said:
>>
>>> Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone
>>> number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less
>>> (Android) tablet.
>>
>>Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot.
>>
>>1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet?
>>2. Are you in the USA?
>>
>>If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile
>>which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet.
>
> Are there locked tablets like there are locked phones?
>
> This page says it's $20 but $4 with the promocode SIMDEAL.
> https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-3-in-1-SIM-Starter-Kit
>
> Also says
> "Works with unlocked, GSM phones. Unlocked, GSM-capable phones that
> support Band II (1900 MHz) or IV (1700/2100 MHz) are compatible with
> T-Mobile’s network. CDMA phones are not compatible with the T-Mobile
> network.
>
> We'll send your ready-to-use SIM card to you in the mail. Keep your
> existing phone number or select a new one. Service required for
> activation. T-Mobile’s prepaid plans feature no annual contracts,
> domestic overages or credit checks.
>
> Works with all T-Mobile phones."
>
> I have, on the old phone, 2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
>
> It only gets 2.5 stars out of 5, on only 2 ratings, One guy gives it 4
> (evem though he calls it perfect) and says he can't understand what the
> other guy is complaining about.
>
> But I don't understand what it would do for me, on my old phone. 200MB
> is practically nothing, right? And like anyone, I already get free
> data with wifi, so this would just be for emergencies I guess, but I
> don't know what a data emergency would be. Maybe I'm groggly because
> it's 3AM.
Trying to find the next CHEAP gas station in the middle of the night at
80mph on I-10 somewhere west of El Paso. Thank you, Gas Buddy!
All our traveling life we have tried to game the need for gasoline. We
used to note the best price coming into town and then buy at that price
leaving town, but sometimes we'd get screwed and have to return. This
isn't as important now that we get 35 mpg and a fill-up is 13 gallons
max, but old habits (100 gallons total, 8 mpg at best in the
monsterhome) die hard.
The Garmin has lists of various useful things, but not current prices!
Moreover, it's frequently not up to date with locations. Really annoying
to search frantically for the Costco that's now something else and being
told that Costco moved to the shopping center across the street and up
the block. Or worse. Accordingly, being able to go to the Costco website
(which damn well OUGHT to list current locations) is useful.
>>I have used that plan with HO/GV successfully to use the tablet as a
>>speakerphone while traveling, so I know it works beautifully to bilaterally
>>connect with US "real" phone numbers for free.
>
> I don't have a tablet and it will take me hours of obsessing to decide
> how big it should be and how expensive, so I'm probably not going to get
> one.
>
>>PS: I see the term POTS which I know covers traditional land lines, but
>>what is the word for a real 10-digit phone number which can be:
>>a. POTS (aka land line)
>>b. VOIP (aka Oooma, Vonage, MagickJack, Sideline, etc.)
>>c. Mobile (aka cellular)
>>
>>Does the term POTS cover all three types of 10-digit phone numbers?
>
> No. Only the first. That's what "plain" and "old" mean, b and c are
> not old. I guess "plain" is an intensifier.
>
> I don't know what the word would be. "A numbered line"? Nah, sounds
> too much like a numbered Swiss bank account.
--
Cheers, Bev
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
is not thus handicapped."
-- Elbert Hubbard, American author
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-02 14:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n2al6ctvei6ae1ksnf0aqubpiir418jb2p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37173 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:47:38 -0800, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >On 01/02/2017 12:23 AM, micky wrote: >> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:49:58 +0100, Yanis Bernard >> <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: >> >>>Frank Slootweg said: >>> >>>> Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone >>>> number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less >>>> (Android) tablet. >>> >>>Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot. >>> >>>1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet? >>>2. Are you in the USA? >>> >>>If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile >>>which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet. >> >> Are there locked tablets like there are locked phones? >> >> This page says it's $20 but $4 with the promocode SIMDEAL. >> https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-3-in-1-SIM-Starter-Kit >> >> Also says >> "Works with unlocked, GSM phones. Unlocked, GSM-capable phones that >> support Band II (1900 MHz) or IV (1700/2100 MHz) are compatible with >> T-Mobile’s network. CDMA phones are not compatible with the T-Mobile >> network. >> >> We'll send your ready-to-use SIM card to you in the mail. Keep your >> existing phone number or select a new one. Service required for >> activation. T-Mobile’s prepaid plans feature no annual contracts, >> domestic overages or credit checks. >> >> Works with all T-Mobile phones." >> >> I have, on the old phone, 2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 >> >> It only gets 2.5 stars out of 5, on only 2 ratings, One guy gives it 4 >> (evem though he calls it perfect) and says he can't understand what the >> other guy is complaining about. >> >> But I don't understand what it would do for me, on my old phone. 200MB >> is practically nothing, right? And like anyone, I already get free >> data with wifi, so this would just be for emergencies I guess, but I >> don't know what a data emergency would be. Maybe I'm groggly because >> it's 3AM. > >Trying to find the next CHEAP gas station in the middle of the night at >80mph on I-10 somewhere west of El Paso. Thank you, Gas Buddy! > >All our traveling life we have tried to game the need for gasoline. We >used to note the best price coming into town and then buy at that price >leaving town, but sometimes we'd get screwed and have to return. This >isn't as important now that we get 35 mpg and a fill-up is 13 gallons >max, but old habits (100 gallons total, 8 mpg at best in the >monsterhome) die hard. > >The Garmin has lists of various useful things, but not current prices! >Moreover, it's frequently not up to date with locations. Really annoying >to search frantically for the Costco that's now something else and being >told that Costco moved to the shopping center across the street and up >the block. Or worse. Accordingly, being able to go to the Costco website >(which damn well OUGHT to list current locations) is useful. Okay, you've all convinced me. And since they are sending a nano-Sim with two larger holders, it will definitely (I think) fit n the second slot in my phone. So for $4, I should get it, right!!?
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-02 12:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o4ebil$5h8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37174 |
On 01/02/2017 11:23 AM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:47:38 -0800, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 01/02/2017 12:23 AM, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:49:58 +0100, Yanis Bernard
>>> <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Frank Slootweg said:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone
>>>>> number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less
>>>>> (Android) tablet.
>>>>
>>>>Two questions which if yes, may help you a lot.
>>>>
>>>>1. Do you have a sim card slot on your Android tablet?
>>>>2. Are you in the USA?
>>>>
>>>>If both are yes, then for $10 or $15 you can get a SIM card from T-Mobile
>>>>which gives you 200MB/month free for life cellular data on the tablet.
>>>
>>> Are there locked tablets like there are locked phones?
>>>
>>> This page says it's $20 but $4 with the promocode SIMDEAL.
>>> https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-3-in-1-SIM-Starter-Kit
>>>
>>> Also says
>>> "Works with unlocked, GSM phones. Unlocked, GSM-capable phones that
>>> support Band II (1900 MHz) or IV (1700/2100 MHz) are compatible with
>>> T-Mobile’s network. CDMA phones are not compatible with the T-Mobile
>>> network.
>>>
>>> We'll send your ready-to-use SIM card to you in the mail. Keep your
>>> existing phone number or select a new one. Service required for
>>> activation. T-Mobile’s prepaid plans feature no annual contracts,
>>> domestic overages or credit checks.
>>>
>>> Works with all T-Mobile phones."
>>>
>>> I have, on the old phone, 2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
>>>
>>> It only gets 2.5 stars out of 5, on only 2 ratings, One guy gives it 4
>>> (evem though he calls it perfect) and says he can't understand what the
>>> other guy is complaining about.
>>>
>>> But I don't understand what it would do for me, on my old phone. 200MB
>>> is practically nothing, right? And like anyone, I already get free
>>> data with wifi, so this would just be for emergencies I guess, but I
>>> don't know what a data emergency would be. Maybe I'm groggly because
>>> it's 3AM.
>>
>>Trying to find the next CHEAP gas station in the middle of the night at
>>80mph on I-10 somewhere west of El Paso. Thank you, Gas Buddy!
>>
>>All our traveling life we have tried to game the need for gasoline. We
>>used to note the best price coming into town and then buy at that price
>>leaving town, but sometimes we'd get screwed and have to return. This
>>isn't as important now that we get 35 mpg and a fill-up is 13 gallons
>>max, but old habits (100 gallons total, 8 mpg at best in the
>>monsterhome) die hard.
>>
>>The Garmin has lists of various useful things, but not current prices!
>>Moreover, it's frequently not up to date with locations. Really annoying
>>to search frantically for the Costco that's now something else and being
>>told that Costco moved to the shopping center across the street and up
>>the block. Or worse. Accordingly, being able to go to the Costco website
>>(which damn well OUGHT to list current locations) is useful.
>
> Okay, you've all convinced me. And since they are sending a nano-Sim
> with two larger holders, it will definitely (I think) fit n the second
> slot in my phone. So for $4, I should get it, right!!?
No reason not to that I can think of. If the phone uses the second SIM
as a 'standby' I think they only work one-at-a-time. If you make a call
with one, you can't use the other for data while you're calling. Check
this out, though -- I could be wrong (unlikely though that might be).
I wish my phone had a second SIM slot. The BLU does, but is hopelessly
inadequate otherwise. We only put a few apps on it, so it worked OK.
We bought a $100 dual-SIM tablet from China via aliexpress, but so far
it's unable to recognize ANY SIM, even though they work in other phones.
The seller is trying to help, but the language barrier is a real
problem. We've had the CC do a chargeback (it costs something like $60
to return the thing, which is ridiculous -- we'll send it back if he
gives us a prepaid shipping label) so it's kind of up in the air.
This has soured me on ordering anything from China that costs more than
I'm willing to throw away if the deal goes belly-up.
--
Cheers, Bev
Ride faster, I hear banjo music!
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-02 16:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nigl6chhqdkmk8t9g3prvgj4o4hjsl851r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37179 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:02:56 -0800, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>Trying to find the next CHEAP gas station in the middle of the night at >>>80mph on I-10 somewhere west of El Paso. Thank you, Gas Buddy! >>> >>>All our traveling life we have tried to game the need for gasoline. We >>>used to note the best price coming into town and then buy at that price >>>leaving town, but sometimes we'd get screwed and have to return. This >>>isn't as important now that we get 35 mpg and a fill-up is 13 gallons >>>max, but old habits (100 gallons total, 8 mpg at best in the >>>monsterhome) die hard. >>> >>>The Garmin has lists of various useful things, but not current prices! >>>Moreover, it's frequently not up to date with locations. Really annoying >>>to search frantically for the Costco that's now something else and being >>>told that Costco moved to the shopping center across the street and up >>>the block. Or worse. Accordingly, being able to go to the Costco website >>>(which damn well OUGHT to list current locations) is useful. >> >> Okay, you've all convinced me. And since they are sending a nano-Sim >> with two larger holders, it will definitely (I think) fit n the second >> slot in my phone. So for $4, I should get it, right!!? > >No reason not to that I can think of. If the phone uses the second SIM >as a 'standby' I think they only work one-at-a-time. If you make a call >with one, you can't use the other for data while you're calling. Check That'll be the day, when I'm doing both of those things at the same time. But I appreciate the warning. >this out, though -- I could be wrong (unlikely though that might be). I'm never wrong. I'm just posting to the wrong newsgroup. >I wish my phone had a second SIM slot. The BLU does, but is hopelessly >inadequate otherwise. We only put a few apps on it, so it worked OK. >We bought a $100 dual-SIM tablet from China via aliexpress, but so far >it's unable to recognize ANY SIM, even though they work in other phones. Not a good sign. > The seller is trying to help, but the language barrier is a real >problem. We've had the CC do a chargeback (it costs something like $60 >to return the thing, which is ridiculous -- we'll send it back if he >gives us a prepaid shipping label) so it's kind of up in the air. >This has soured me on ordering anything from China that costs more than >I'm willing to throw away if the deal goes belly-up. I can see that. > >-- >Cheers, Bev > Ride faster, I hear banjo music!
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4evug$u6o$4@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37179 |
The Real Bev said: > This has soured me on ordering anything from China that costs more than > I'm willing to throw away if the deal goes belly-up. Hom Tom is good stuff for Android phones. About $85 for a phone that beats the pants off of many other phones.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-04 03:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g2ap6c9c5nr8dac2qdd9jcp7tturh0uua7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37188 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Jan 2017 02:48:41 +0100, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: >The Real Bev said: > >> This has soured me on ordering anything from China that costs more than >> I'm willing to throw away if the deal goes belly-up. > >Hom Tom is good stuff for Android phones. I liike their underwater phones. I wish I spent more time underwater, but when I open my mouth to talk it fills with water. >About $85 for a phone that beats the pants off of many other phones. In the USA, I found a phone I liked on display at Microcenter, and I guess this is the sort of thing I disapprove of** but I bought it at jet.com. I was surprised to see it on Jet, and I don't know how many phones they have (they had seveal models of Blu. That's as far as I looked) but it was cheap and at the time, maybe still,and they have 10% discounts on top of that on the first 3 orders, big or small. And get this, another 1 or maybe 2% discount if you waive your warranty. I didn't do this on a phone but if it were nails or Boraxo, I'd be pretty sure it wouldn't break. I can't remember what it said but I don't think this waived your warranty on the initial purchase, such as if the nails were aluminum or the container came in broken and much of the product missing.. I think there was a 3rd small discount possible but I can't remember what it was. Jet.com seemed like its long term plan was to compete with Amazon, but its webpage was nowhere near as good as Amazon (or even Microcenter, or even less good pages), which usually has detailed descriptions, lots of pictures (some enlargeable), questions and answers, ratings, and even similar products if you're not sure you're buying the right thing. Jet.com had none of that, not even much of a description beyond "Phone". But I suspect if they make money they'll hire staff to put that extra stuff in. **shopping in person and then buying on the net, but my excuse is that I was there to actually buy things, and I did. A phone and a camera were just future plans.
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4evui$u6o$5@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37174 |
micky said: > Okay, you've all convinced me. And since they are sending a nano-Sim > with two larger holders, it will definitely (I think) fit n the second > slot in my phone. So for $4, I should get it, right!!? It's a no brainer if you're getting the SIM card for four bucks and then you get 200MB/month for life. You're getting this for a tablet, right? Note that T-Mobile is different, I think, from the other two main carriers in that they NEVER charge you when you go over your limit. It just slows down but they never charge you for more data. You can always buy more high-speed data if you want. I guess that's what they are hoping you do, but they never nag you. Just be advised that every once in a while they turn off the data (for whatever reason) and I have to call them to have them turn it back on. I guess it's because I have the data turned off most of the time, so maybe they figure I got rid of the tablet or whatever.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-03 16:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <fe3o6ctupqs5k3f9qnlkvui5fc8ilru0to@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37189 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Jan 2017 02:48:44 +0100, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: >micky said: > >> Okay, you've all convinced me. And since they are sending a nano-Sim >> with two larger holders, it will definitely (I think) fit n the second >> slot in my phone. So for $4, I should get it, right!!? > >It's a no brainer if you're getting the SIM card for four bucks and then >you get 200MB/month for life. > >You're getting this for a tablet, right? No, for a phone. I don't have a tablet. I'm generally a cheapskate and this year I'm trying not to be, but I really have trouble figuring out what I would use a tablet for. (on this trip. There's no rush to plan what I do when I'm home.) I'm not going to write email when I'm not at home. I'm not going to browse wikiipedia, or anything else but look at maps and the paper maps plus the maps on the 5.5" phone plus the compass is all I need. (There is no chance at all I won't get where I'm going. In between I wander around, don't need or want any maps, and I need the cellphone or compass just to get back to a main road.) I have a laptop that I'll keep in the room where I'm staying and use at the end of the day. I wouldn't even consider getting a tablet if it were not for this 11-week trip, whose benefits I want to maximize. (I could buy a tablet while on the trip, but aren't there many many models with quite different features sometimes and I think it would be harder to shop.) >Note that T-Mobile is different, I think, from the other two main carriers >in that they NEVER charge you when you go over your limit. It just slows >down but they never charge you for more data. That's for real customers, who pay a decent amount, right. They're not going to do that after a one time payment of $4, are they? > >You can always buy more high-speed data if you want. >I guess that's what they are hoping you do, but they never nag you. > >Just be advised that every once in a while they turn off the data (for >whatever reason) and I have to call them to have them turn it back on. LOL They turned off my water today to replace a hydrant a block away. >I guess it's because I have the data turned off most of the time, so maybe >they figure I got rid of the tablet or whatever.
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-04 06:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4hvqa$4v7$8@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37240 |
micky said: > No, for a phone. I don't have a tablet. Then I just wish to be clear that the free 200MB/month for life that I was talking about doesn't apply to a phone as far as I know. It only applies to tablets as far as I know.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-04 01:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <040120170151564763%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37270 |
In article <o4hvqa$4v7$8@news.mixmin.net>, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > > No, for a phone. I don't have a tablet. > > Then I just wish to be clear that the free 200MB/month for life that I was > talking about doesn't apply to a phone as far as I know. > > It only applies to tablets as far as I know. correct. it also is linked to the tablet in which it's activated.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-05 01:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <14inehey2olhk.12im0wge5956e.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37273 |
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 01:51:56 -0500, nospam wrote: >> Then I just wish to be clear that the free 200MB/month for life that I was >> talking about doesn't apply to a phone as far as I know. >> >> It only applies to tablets as far as I know. > > correct. > > it also is linked to the tablet in which it's activated. So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <050120170949061600%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37376 |
In article <14inehey2olhk.12im0wge5956e.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > > >> Then I just wish to be clear that the free 200MB/month for life that I was > >> talking about doesn't apply to a phone as far as I know. > >> > >> It only applies to tablets as far as I know. > > > > correct. > > > > it also is linked to the tablet in which it's activated. > > So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data > modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated > there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp what part of 'only applies to tablets' is not clear?
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-06 00:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1lxst9fnyra8l.18klv9288p3ya$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37386 |
On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 09:49:06 -0500, nospam wrote: > In article <14inehey2olhk.12im0wge5956e.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp > <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > >> >>>> Then I just wish to be clear that the free 200MB/month for life that I was >>>> talking about doesn't apply to a phone as far as I know. >>>> >>>> It only applies to tablets as far as I know. >>> >>> correct. >>> >>> it also is linked to the tablet in which it's activated. >> >> So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data >> modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated >> there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp > > what part of 'only applies to tablets' is not clear? It's exactly a tablet I'd be using that USB-based cellular data modem on. Should that not be possible? What part of "only applies to tablets" does that use case contravene? Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-06 00:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <060120170023367602%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37436 |
In article <1lxst9fnyra8l.18klv9288p3ya$.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > >> > >> So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data > >> modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated > >> there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp > > > > what part of 'only applies to tablets' is not clear? > > It's exactly a tablet I'd be using that USB-based cellular data modem on. what in the hell for? use the cell radio in the tablet. > Should that not be possible? it might be possible with a lot of effort, but there's no point in bothering. > What part of "only applies to tablets" does > that use case contravene? Cheers, -- tlvp a usb modem is not a tablet. that should be obvious, but apparently, it is not.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-06 19:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7t22t1skjb5r.1ucoo7z92rgrj.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37437 |
On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 00:23:36 -0500, nospam wrote: > In article <1lxst9fnyra8l.18klv9288p3ya$.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp > <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > >>>> >>>> So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data >>>> modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated >>>> there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp >>> >>> what part of 'only applies to tablets' is not clear? >> >> It's exactly a tablet I'd be using that USB-based cellular data modem on. > > what in the hell for? use the cell radio in the tablet. You mean, "the cell radio *that was never incorporated* in the tablet"? >> Should that not be possible? > > it might be possible with a lot of effort, but there's no point in > bothering. > >> What part of "only applies to tablets" does >> that use case contravene? Cheers, -- tlvp > > a usb modem is not a tablet. > > that should be obvious, but apparently, it is not. A "cell radio in the tablet" also "is not a tablet." That too "should be obvious, but apparently, it is not." So, may we try again? Should it not be possible to get one of those 200 MB / month T-Mo data plans activated for a USB cellular data modem being used via USB port on a tablet with no data radio other than for wi-fi? What exactly is the "effort" needed? Or, if you don't know, just say so. Thanks. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <060120172051570614%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #37483 |
In article <7t22t1skjb5r.1ucoo7z92rgrj.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > >>>> So there's no hope to use it with a USB- or PCMCIA-based cellular data > >>>> modem? That would explain why I've never managed to get one activated > >>>> there. (Drat!) Cheers, -- tlvp > >>> > >>> what part of 'only applies to tablets' is not clear? > >> > >> It's exactly a tablet I'd be using that USB-based cellular data modem on. > > > > what in the hell for? use the cell radio in the tablet. > > You mean, "the cell radio *that was never incorporated* in the tablet"? why did you buy a tablet that doesn't have a cellular radio if you plan to use cellular data? > >> Should that not be possible? > > > > it might be possible with a lot of effort, but there's no point in > > bothering. > > > >> What part of "only applies to tablets" does > >> that use case contravene? Cheers, -- tlvp > > > > a usb modem is not a tablet. > > > > that should be obvious, but apparently, it is not. > > A "cell radio in the tablet" also "is not a tablet." That too "should be > obvious, but apparently, it is not." a cell radio in a tablet is an integral part of the tablet and cannot be removed (or added if it wasn't there initially), therefore claiming that the modem is a standalone item is bizarre, among other things. > So, may we try again? sure, but the answer is still the same. > Should it not be possible to get one of those 200 MB > / month T-Mo data plans activated for a USB cellular data modem being used > via USB port on a tablet with no data radio other than for wi-fi? no it should not. > What > exactly is the "effort" needed? the first problem is fooling t-mobile into thinking that a usb data stick is actually a tablet. despite your claims, it is not. the imei indicates what type of device it is, so t-mobile just needs to look up the data stick's imei and will see that it's a data stick and not a tablet and therefore will not work on a tablet-only plan (or phone-only plan for that matter). assuming you can get past that (which is possible but *very* involved and also illegal), the second problem is getting the tablet to use that usb data stick for connectivity. what drivers were you planning on installing to accomplish that? were you going to write your own or were you going to hire someone to do it? the third problem is having this thing sticking out of the bottom or side of the tablet. who wants that? it'll snap off when you put it in your bag or pocket or maybe even just trying to prop the tablet up to watch a video. part of the advantage of having cellular connectivity on a mobile device is that it's always available without having to plug in extra shit. it's a *mobile* device, after all. the fourth problem is that if usb data sticks were allowed on the free plan, people would game the system and use them on laptops and other devices, exactly what t-mobile prohibits. it's a lot easier to fake things out from a laptop than on a tablet. the whole point of the 200mb free plan is a goodwill gesture to get new customers, with the hope that some of them upgrade to a paid tablet plan with higher data caps and/or choose to use t-mobile for phone service. > Or, if you don't know, just say so. Thanks. i do know.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-07 13:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lxy1lkype6zx$.e89oux7jiyeo$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37492 |
On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 20:51:57 -0500, nospam wrote: > the third problem is having this thing sticking out of the bottom or > side of the tablet. who wants that? A non-problem if I use a M/F USB extension cable. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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