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| Started by | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| First post | 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500 |
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Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:27 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-12-31 12:15 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-31 21:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 00:07 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-01-01 20:21 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 20:57 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:01 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:08 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 04:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:10 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 14:42 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 05:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-12-31 15:49 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 01:00 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 20:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:30 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:50 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 19:47 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:20 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 20:59 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:18 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:51 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 11:56 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:14 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:49 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:43 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:47 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 14:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:02 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:15 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 16:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-04 06:05 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 01:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:54 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:06 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 00:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:37 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:49 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 14:05 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:37 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:40 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:40 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-07 23:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:45 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 22:32 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-09 15:23 +0000
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-09 10:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:33 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:14 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:55 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 08:41 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 06:01 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:04 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:57 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:19 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:26 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:48 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:48 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-07 22:06 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken1943 <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-31 11:27 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:36 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:12 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:09 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 19:38 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 12:37 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:02 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:53 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:46 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:25 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:20 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 12:12 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:34 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:08 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 04:17 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 08:30 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:23 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 18:18 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 17:58 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:59 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:28 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 23:29 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-03 21:56 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2016-12-31 16:11 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 19:58 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:35 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:35 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-01-02 12:28 -0700
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:05 -0800
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:16 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-03 11:24 +0100
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-12-31 17:02 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:37 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 13:27 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:21 -0500
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 19:04 -0600
Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500
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| From | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 14:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o490dd$g74$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37079 |
"nospam" wrote in message news:311220161347071844%nospam@nospam.invalid... > >In article <o48t78$3it$1@dont-email.me>, TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> >wrote: > >> >> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid >> >> phone >> >> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- >> >> and >> >> maybe also send and receive photos. Mostly, his son would like to be >> >> able >> >> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them. >> > >> >get a voip app and a messaging app. plenty of choices. >> >> Thanks. Sorry, but I don't quite know what that means. >a voip app, otherwise known as voice over ip, lets you make/receive >phone calls using an internet connection rather than a cellular (or >landline) connection. there may be fees involved, depending on the app >and the voip service (if any). if you call to/fro a normal phone, there >more than likely will be fees, as the termination cost has to be paid >somehow, while with the same app on both ends, it's usually free. > >a messaging app sends/receives messages, usually with both sides >needing the same app, although in some cases it can interoperate with >standard sms/mms messages. it's usually free, often with ads, but in >some cases, there may be fees or a limit on how many messages. > >> Can you give an example of a voip app and a messaging app? I could then >> check those out and I'll know what they are and can then check other >> similar >> apps. > ><http://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-apps-voip-sip-calls-wi-fi- >calling-internet-calling-87396/> ><http://www.androidauthority.com/best-texting-apps-for-android-653970/> > >there are others too. Thanks. I'll check out those links and see what they say. -- I found this free and safe Windows Live Mail Newsreader QuoteFix program: WLMail QuoteFix -> http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o48v3h$kqb$3@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37076 |
TomR said: > Can you give an example of a voip app and a messaging app? I could then > check those out and I'll know what they are and can then check other similar > apps. The VOIP app of choice is Google Hangouts & Google Voice which will give you a phone number that makes and receives calls and texts to and from "real" phones, for free, if you're in the USA. All other VOIP apps that make and receive calls and texts to "real" phones will cost you money (not much though). If you don't want to make and receive calls and texts to "real" phones, then you have more choices such as Skype and WhatApp and Telegram. One other free choice that makes and receives calls to "real" phones, which I use frequently (but I have a SIM card and I never tested it without the SIM card) is Sideline. If you don't have a SIM card, I'd try Sideline first because it gives you a "real" phone number. Let us know if it works without a SIM. Otherwise, Google Voice will give you a "real" phone number also but I don't know if it works without a SIM card (it certainly works with a SIM card). So, let us know if you have a SIM card (you can get them for free but I forget the name of the company but it has been discussed here before).
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| From | "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 14:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o490a3$fr3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37081 |
"Yanis Bernard" wrote in message news:o48v3h$kqb$3@news.mixmin.net... > >TomR said: > >> Can you give an example of a voip app and a messaging app? I could then >> check those out and I'll know what they are and can then check other >> similar >> apps. > >The VOIP app of choice is Google Hangouts & Google Voice which will give >you a phone number that makes and receives calls and texts to and from >"real" phones, for free, if you're in the USA. > >All other VOIP apps that make and receive calls and texts to "real" phones >will cost you money (not much though). > >If you don't want to make and receive calls and texts to "real" phones, >then you have more choices such as Skype and WhatApp and Telegram. > >One other free choice that makes and receives calls to "real" phones, which >I use frequently (but I have a SIM card and I never tested it without the >SIM card) is Sideline. > >If you don't have a SIM card, I'd try Sideline first because it gives you a >"real" phone number. Let us know if it works without a SIM. > >Otherwise, Google Voice will give you a "real" phone number also but I >don't know if it works without a SIM card (it certainly works with a SIM >card). > >So, let us know if you have a SIM card (you can get them for free but I >forget the name of the company but it has been discussed here before). Thanks. I'll check out Google Hangouts and Google Voice and see how it works etc. I am in the USA (East Coast), and this would only be for within-USA calls and texts. I may also check out Skype and WhatApp and Telegram, but I am not sure if I will do that -- mostly because I think they may require that the person being called also have the same app installed on their end for the call to be free. I think the phone has a SIM card -- looks like it when I open it up. It is a StraightTalk cell phone but does not have a StraightTalk service set up in it, so no minutes and not phone number assigned to the phone. The model of the phone is Alcatel OneTouch A621BL. I will also look into SideLine to see what that is etc. -- I found this free and safe Windows Live Mail Newsreader QuoteFix program: WLMail QuoteFix -> http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o49bh4$dog$5@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37087 |
TomR said: > I'll check out Google Hangouts and Google Voice and see how it works etc. I > am in the USA (East Coast), and this would only be for within-USA calls and > texts. I have a SIM card so everything I say below relates to having a SIM card. 1. If you use almost all VOIP programs that people suggested, they will NOT allow you to make phone calls to and from "real" USA numbers. For example, AFAIK, WhatsApp will NOT make calls to/from real phone numbers, and Skype will not make calls to/from real phone numbers without you paying extra. 2. The only two tools I know of that will make calls to/from real phone numbers are tools that *give* you a phone number! Two tools that give you a USA phone number, for free are GoogleVoice+Hangouts and Sideline. 3. The caveat is that I tested both using a phone that has a SIM card and a phone number already (where I essentially have 3 phone numbers); a. The original phone number from the carrier b. A free google voice phone number c. A free sideline phone number All three phone numbers can make and receive calls for free to/from USA "real" phone numbers in my setup. YMMV depending on your carrier & plan. > I may also check out Skype and WhatApp and Telegram, but I am not sure if I > will do that -- mostly because I think they may require that the person > being called also have the same app installed on their end for the call to > be free. I think it's ridiculous to expect everyone you contact to have the same app as you have. So, for me, Skype, Telegram, WhatsApp, Facetime, etc., are almost useless (IMHO). > I think the phone has a SIM card -- looks like it when I open it up. It is > a StraightTalk cell phone but does not have a StraightTalk service set up in > it, so no minutes and not phone number assigned to the phone. The model of > the phone is Alcatel OneTouch A621BL. I'm not a hardware guy so the others can help on the hardware capabilities with a SIM card and no plan. If your phone can be called when you are on WiFi, then the options I suggested will work and they are superior to all other suggestions because they will allow you free phone calls to/from anyone in the USA and free SMS to/from anyone in the world on a "real" phone. If you don't need a "real" phone to contact you or for you to contact a "real" phone, then all the options everyone else suggested will work as long as your recipient is using the same software. > I will also look into SideLine to see what that is etc. Here's how I use sideline to give you an idea of what it is: 1. I want to sell something on Craigslist but I don't want to give out my real phone number for calls and texts related to that ad. 2. I download and install sideline and it gives me a real phone number that can be called from/to any phone number in the USA for free and to/from any SMS phone number in the world for free. 3. When I'm done with the Craigslist ad, I delete Sideline and the phone number vaporizes. But I have a SIM card and a regular calling plan, which I don't know if Sideline uses or not (probably does).
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 18:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <otdg6c1p0n6f13kigmjuv9simv3r1v8gn0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37103 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:29:48 +0100, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > >But I have a SIM card and a regular calling plan, which I don't know if >Sideline uses or not (probably does). What one of us could do, but I'm not willing to, is take the SIM card out of the phone and see what still works. I'm pretty sure Whatsapp would. I got it becuase there is only one person I call in Europe and it's probably better to call her cell phone and she uses whatsapp too, in fact she told me about it. Skype does charge to call a real phone number but it's under 3 cents a minute within the US and Canada, etc, not that much more to foreign coutries (except cell phones which are often/usually? more). That's a lot for a local call, but when I had no long distance service, and when my DSL worked yet my home phone didn't, it enabled me to make a few necessary calls. (using the PC) I have another phone with no SIM card that does access wifi, but it only had room for one app and even if I removed that, I don't think there would be room for any of the apps discussed in this thread.
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| From | mike <ham789@netzero.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 15:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o49g45$e9j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37106 |
On 12/31/2016 3:02 PM, micky wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:29:48 +0100, Yanis > Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > >> >> But I have a SIM card and a regular calling plan, which I don't know if >> Sideline uses or not (probably does). > > What one of us could do, but I'm not willing to, is take the SIM card > out of the phone and see what still works. > > I'm pretty sure Whatsapp would. I got it becuase there is only one > person I call in Europe and it's probably better to call her cell phone > and she uses whatsapp too, in fact she told me about it. > > Skype does charge to call a real phone number but it's under 3 cents a > minute within the US and Canada, etc, not that much more to foreign > coutries (except cell phones which are often/usually? more). That's a > lot for a local call, but when I had no long distance service, and when > my DSL worked yet my home phone didn't, it enabled me to make a few > necessary calls. (using the PC) > > > I have another phone with no SIM card that does access wifi, but it only > had room for one app and even if I removed that, I don't think there > would be room for any of the apps discussed in this thread. > I set mine up two years ago, so YMMV. Google Voice will give you a USA phone number for free...although it may not be in your desired area code...depends on availability. Mine shows up as in a town 30 miles away. Google is NOT a phone company. They can't connect you to POTS services. If they did, they'd be subject to regulations and taxes and fees, etc. So my google voice account links to an account on my OBI. You have to buy the OBI box, but can use it for free. It sits on your network. Plug a phone into it and all your GV calls go there. The interesting part is that GV can forward your calls to any other US number. It can also send your calls to your hangouts account on your tablet/phone as long as it has a wireless network connection. When you call my GV number, it rings the OBI box and a cellphone with service and any of my phone/tablets that are currently connected to the internet and running hangouts. GV hangouts dialer lets you call from your networked tablet/phone As I recall, my OBI box can call any other OBI box worldwide for free. But it uses a special address. Not sure if that will pass through google voice dialing system. All this works fine as long as you have a real phone or some interface like OBI online. It's gonna ring whatever phone that gets connected to. Perfect for me, but if you want a separate line for a kid that doesn't interact with your existing phone, that can be a problem. You can get a prepaid phone account thru PagePlus/Verizon that costs as little as $10 every 120 days. I think that only works with non-smart phones. Smartphones cost you more. I believe you can link your GV account to that and just leave it turned off. I don't think GV actually needs/uses the phone system. They exploit holes in the taxation system and do whatever they want. If you ever need an emergency phone on the Verizon network, you have one at 10-cents/minute thru PagePlus. Freedompop will give you a phone number and limited voice/data budget for free. They're a little dodgy, but that might work for your base account. MagicJack is another alternative. Not free, but cheap. There's a magicjack app that runs on your tablet/phone and accesses your MJ account and gets you on the POTS system. Last I checked, you can get a MJ account in the US and send it to a foreign country. They'll have a US phone number and call US for free. There are many cheap cell plans, but they're chock full of restrictions. Check the reviews. Are we having fun yet?
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 01:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o49gs1$ops$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37109 |
mike said: > I don't think GV actually needs/uses the phone system. They exploit > holes in the taxation system and do whatever they want. This is interesting because I do have to pay tax on my Oooma but not on my GV but they essentially do the same thing. How does GV get past the tax system on my setup, which does not have an OBI box? I just have a phone with GV on it and an Android tablet with GV on it. Both ring when someone calls me. Does GV use the SIM card at all?
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2016-12-31 20:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c4sauf3j1sq0.1oajg2d58j58k.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #37109 |
On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:49:35 -0800, mike wrote: > You can get a prepaid phone account thru PagePlus/Verizon that costs as > little as > $10 every 120 days. True. I have one. > ... I think that only works with non-smart phones. > Smartphones cost you more. Works exactly as described with Moto Droid X2, which does, I believe, qualify as a "Smartphone". (Yet costs not a penny more.) Likewise for the WinMo 6 Moto Q9m. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o49ggp$o25$3@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37106 |
micky said: > What one of us could do, but I'm not willing to, is take the SIM card > out of the phone and see what still works. I suspect Sideline will fail without the sim card but that GoogleVoice/Hangouts will still work without the SIM card. > I'm pretty sure Whatsapp would. I got it becuase there is only one > person I call in Europe and it's probably better to call her cell phone > and she uses whatsapp too, in fact she told me about it. I'm not the one to describe the different types of VOIP, but WhatsApp is the primitive kind (as is Skype, Telegram, etc.) where it will work just fine on any computer. This primitive type of VOIP (it has a name but I don't know what that name is) doesn't call "real" phone numbers anyway, so the problem set is vastly simpler if you're just going computer to computer. > Skype does charge to call a real phone number but it's under 3 cents a > minute within the US and Canada, etc, not that much more to foreign > coutries (except cell phones which are often/usually? more). Yes. This is the other type of VOIP that is not just computer to computer. For money, Skype can call a real phone line (I think that's SKypeOut?). For money, Skype can receive a real phone call (I think that's SkypeIn?). But for free, GoogleVoice/Hangouts can do that and do SMS to/from real phone lines in the USA (for calls) for free. So what advantage does Skype have over GoogleVoice/Hangouts for calling or receiving to/from a real phone? Nothing. If all you're doing is computer-to-computer, then the VOIP-selection caveat is always the same, which is that you have to use whatever the other person is using. > That's a > lot for a local call, but when I had no long distance service, and when > my DSL worked yet my home phone didn't, it enabled me to make a few > necessary calls. (using the PC) Nothing wrong with paying for calls, but why pay when it's free? > I have another phone with no SIM card that does access wifi, but it only > had room for one app and even if I removed that, I don't think there > would be room for any of the apps discussed in this thread. Sounds like a candidate to test.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 14:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ecsi3uFqu7kU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37112 |
Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: [...] > I'm not the one to describe the different types of VOIP, but WhatsApp is > the primitive kind (as is Skype, Telegram, etc.) where it will work just > fine on any computer. If "any computer" also includes non-Android/non-iOS devices - i.e. for example a Windows computer - then what you write is not true for WhatsApp, because WhatsApp does not run on such computers. Yes, there is a thing called 'WhatsApp Web', which runs in a webbrowser, but that is only for the output to the screen and input from the keyboard. The actual sending and receiving is still done on a (Android/iOS) phone/tablet. I.e. if you want to use a computer, you do not use a computer *instead of* a phone/tablet, but *in addition to* a phone/tablet. And yes, that is totally stupid, but it's the way it is. > This primitive type of VOIP (it has a name but I don't know what that name > is) doesn't call "real" phone numbers anyway, so the problem set is vastly > simpler if you're just going computer to computer. > > > Skype does charge to call a real phone number but it's under 3 cents a > > minute within the US and Canada, etc, not that much more to foreign > > coutries (except cell phones which are often/usually? more). > > Yes. This is the other type of VOIP that is not just computer to computer. > For money, Skype can call a real phone line (I think that's SKypeOut?). > For money, Skype can receive a real phone call (I think that's SkypeIn?). > > But for free, GoogleVoice/Hangouts can do that and do SMS to/from real > phone lines in the USA (for calls) for free. > > So what advantage does Skype have over GoogleVoice/Hangouts for calling or > receiving to/from a real phone? > > Nothing. Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. [...]
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 18:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4bfgn$nog$2@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37128 |
Frank Slootweg said: > If "any computer" also includes non-Android/non-iOS devices - i.e. for > example a Windows computer - then what you write is not true for > WhatsApp, because WhatsApp does not run on such computers. Thank you for clarifying. I did mean all computers, so, if WhatsApp doesn't run on "any computer" then it's even more primitive than the rest. I think Skype runs on "any computer" (if we define any computer as any common consumer operating system, such as MacOS, iOS, Android, Windows, & Linux). > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, which is that they need the same software on both ends. That's why I prefer the free VOIP solutions that can bilaterally call "real" (aka POTS) phone lines and vice versa. I think someone said those use the SIM card cellular service though, even when on WiFi, so, the OP may or may not be able to use those. Freedompop, as I think Bev mentioned (or someone else?) should be one of the cheapest US cards possible for non tablets (T-Mobile SIMS are the cheapest of all US SIM card services but only for tablets).
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 19:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ev2ojd-7g8.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #37132 |
Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. > > I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, > which is that they need the same software on both ends. > Almost all of the *proprietary* solutions need "the same software on both ends". 'Proper' VOIP applications work to the internet VOIP standards and interwork without problems. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ect6kuF1hstU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37134 |
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > > > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > > > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. > > > > I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, > > which is that they need the same software on both ends. > > > Almost all of the *proprietary* solutions need "the same software on > both ends". 'Proper' VOIP applications work to the internet VOIP > standards and interwork without problems. Please give examples of such "'Proper' VOIP applications", because AFAIK, there is no such animal. Note that I mean "'Proper' VOIP applications" in the context of what is being discussed in *this* thread. I.e. the "'Proper' VOIP applications" should not just be able to call fixed or mobile *telephone* numbers (because that is a piece of cake), but should also be able to do *non-SMS* IM (Instant Messaging). In the old days (2000 or so?) there were some IM interoperabilty standards, but - for all intents and purposes - they are dead and gone. So we are stuck with proprietary IM protocols/implementations, which are sometimes even locked to a specific OS or/and vendor. So specifically: Give an example of app A on OS X which can do *non-SMS* IM with app B on OS Y (where X or Y is Android).
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 20:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s67ojd-8b9.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #37137 |
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > > Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > > > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > > > > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > > > > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. > > > > > > I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, > > > which is that they need the same software on both ends. > > > > > Almost all of the *proprietary* solutions need "the same software on > > both ends". 'Proper' VOIP applications work to the internet VOIP > > standards and interwork without problems. > > Please give examples of such "'Proper' VOIP applications", because > AFAIK, there is no such animal. > Zoiper and the SIP Discount mobile app. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 21:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ectaurF2j19U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37140 |
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > > > Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > > > > > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > > > > > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. > > > > > > > > I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, > > > > which is that they need the same software on both ends. > > > > > > > Almost all of the *proprietary* solutions need "the same software on > > > both ends". 'Proper' VOIP applications work to the internet VOIP > > > standards and interwork without problems. > > > > Please give examples of such "'Proper' VOIP applications", because > > AFAIK, there is no such animal. > > > Zoiper and the SIP Discount mobile app. Please give some pointers (URLs) to these and answer the rest of my post (which you silently snipped). The 'SIP' part doesn't look promising and implies that you don't understand what is being asked for.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-03 03:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <omqm6ctn7prf490phe9bsmes24kgeh4n3p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37132 |
>> AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video >> calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. Google Hangouts and Google Duo support video calls to those using the same app. Hangouts can make outbound voice calls to people who don't use it, and I think Duo can too.
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| From | Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 18:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <o4bfit$nq9$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #37128 |
Frank Slootweg said: > If "any computer" also includes non-Android/non-iOS devices - i.e. for > example a Windows computer - then what you write is not true for > WhatsApp, because WhatsApp does not run on such computers. Thank you for clarifying. I did mean all computers, so, if WhatsApp doesn't run on "any computer" then it's even more primitive than the rest. I think Skype runs on "any computer" (if we define any computer as any common consumer operating system, such as MacOS, iOS, Android, Windows, & Linux). > Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make > Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video > calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user. I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions, which is that they need the same software on both ends. That's why I prefer the free VOIP solutions that can bilaterally call "real" (aka POTS) phone lines and vice versa. I think someone said those use the SIM card cellular service though, even when on WiFi, so, the OP may or may not be able to use those. Freedompop, as I think Bev mentioned (or someone else?) should be one of the cheapest US cards possible for non tablets (T-Mobile SIMS are the cheapest of all US SIM card services but only for tablets).
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 11:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o4bmrb$28a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37133 |
On 01/01/2017 09:51 AM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
> Frank Slootweg said:
>
>> If "any computer" also includes non-Android/non-iOS devices - i.e. for
>> example a Windows computer - then what you write is not true for
>> WhatsApp, because WhatsApp does not run on such computers.
>
> Thank you for clarifying. I did mean all computers, so, if WhatsApp doesn't
> run on "any computer" then it's even more primitive than the rest.
>
> I think Skype runs on "any computer" (if we define any computer as any
> common consumer operating system, such as MacOS, iOS, Android, Windows, &
> Linux).
>
>> Perhaps not for that purpose alone, but Skype can also make
>> Skype-to-Skype video calls. AFAIK, GoogleVoice/Hangouts doesn't do video
>> calls and even if it does, it won't do video calls to/from Skype user.
>
> I think you hit upon the huge drawback of almost all of the VOIP solutions,
> which is that they need the same software on both ends.
Google hangouts/dialer/voice and Freedompop both call normal phone
numbers. I would assume that making wifi calls with the T-Mobile wifi
SIM would work too, but we haven't been able to get it working yet.
> That's why I prefer the free VOIP solutions that can bilaterally call
> "real" (aka POTS) phone lines and vice versa.
>
> I think someone said those use the SIM card cellular service though, even
> when on WiFi, so, the OP may or may not be able to use those.
>
> Freedompop, as I think Bev mentioned (or someone else?) should be one of
> the cheapest US cards possible for non tablets (T-Mobile SIMS are the
> cheapest of all US SIM card services but only for tablets).
Both are $5. The Freedompop month of unlimited callting/text/data
starts the day you place the order; the SIM ships from Indiana (or
Illinois or one of those godforsaken places) via Fedex-to-USPS and took
10 days to make it to Pasadena. When I called to cancel the paid
service to avoid auto-renewal it immediately went back to the limited
monthly service and had only a few MB of data left until the next
turnover date in 2 weeks. There is no free lunch :-(
--
Cheers, Bev
"Everyone ought to stop and smell crayons once in a while."
-- DA
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-02 03:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <362k6c9bm48055rbs5gc1qu6h2cjd8atq4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #37133 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 1 Jan 2017 18:51:10 +0100, Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > >That's why I prefer the free VOIP solutions that can bilaterally call >"real" (aka POTS) phone lines and vice versa. > >I think someone said those use the SIM card cellular service though, even >when on WiFi, so, the OP may or may not be able to use those. Just to nitpick, I think what someone said is that he thought they MIGHT need the SIM card, but not that they would use the cellular service. The two seem very much alike to me, so it's not surprising you said what you did, but since they don't use the cellular service**, I conclude that one doesn't need the SIM card to be in place. **Because every day I use cellular, I get a message 10 seconds after the first phone call saying I spent $2, and I didn't get one. I did think it was possible for something to need the SIM card even though it didn't use it much. Sort of like the way the phone company wants your Social Security Number. >Freedompop, as I think Bev mentioned (or someone else?) should be one of >the cheapest US cards possible for non tablets (T-Mobile SIMS are the >cheapest of all US SIM card services but only for tablets).
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-01 14:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ecsh6fFqmngU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37106 |
micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote: > In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:29:48 +0100, Yanis > Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> wrote: > > >But I have a SIM card and a regular calling plan, which I don't know if > >Sideline uses or not (probably does). > > What one of us could do, but I'm not willing to, is take the SIM card > out of the phone and see what still works. > > I'm pretty sure Whatsapp would. I got it becuase there is only one > person I call in Europe and it's probably better to call her cell phone > and she uses whatsapp too, in fact she told me about it. Yes, WhatsApp works without a SIM. WhatsApp needs to *know* the mobile phone number of the other party, but it does not *use* it to call, i.e. no need for a SIM. It only uses the number as the 'address'/'name'/'account'/ <whatever> of the other party. > Skype ... Yes, Skype doesn't need a SIM either and it doesn't need a phone number for Skype-to-Skype calls. For example, I use Skype on my SIM-less (Android) tablet. [...]
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