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Free texting and calling via WiFi?

Started by"TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm>
First post2016-12-31 13:01 -0500
Last post2017-01-04 15:14 -0500
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  Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:01 -0500
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:08 -0500
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 13:27 -0500
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 13:47 -0500
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-12-31 12:15 -0700
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0500
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:03 -0500
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-31 21:02 -0600
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 00:07 -0600
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-01-01 20:21 -0600
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-01 20:57 -0600
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:01 -0600
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:08 -0600
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 04:37 -0600
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:10 -0600
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 14:02 -0600
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 14:42 -0600
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 05:02 -0500
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:21 -0500
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:20 -0500
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:02 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-12-31 15:49 -0800
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 01:00 +0100
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-31 20:26 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:30 +0000
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:50 +0100
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 19:47 +0000
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:20 +0000
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-01 20:59 +0000
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 21:34 +0000
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:18 -0600
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:51 +0100
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 11:56 -0800
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:06 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 14:14 +0000
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 18:49 +0100
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-01 20:43 +0000
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 03:23 -0500
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:47 -0800
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 14:23 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:02 -0800
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:15 -0500
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:04 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 16:00 -0500
                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-04 06:05 +0100
                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 01:51 -0500
                                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:54 -0500
                                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:49 -0500
                                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:06 -0500
                                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 00:23 -0500
                                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:48 -0500
                                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
                                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:36 -0500
                                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
                                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:37 -0500
                                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:47 -0500
                                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:50 +0000
                                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:49 -0500
                                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 14:05 -0500
                                                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 21:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:23 -0500
                                                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-08 17:03 +0000
                                              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-07 23:23 +0000
                                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 18:45 -0500
                                                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-08 22:32 -0500
                                                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2017-01-09 15:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-09 10:30 -0500
                                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:33 -0500
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:14 -0800
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:55 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-03 02:48 +0100
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 18:05 -0800
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 08:41 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 06:01 -0500
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:04 -0500
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:57 -0500
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:00 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:19 -0500
                            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
                    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 21:09 -0500
                      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0500
                        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:26 -0500
                          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 10:03 -0500
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:54 +0100
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 20:48 -0500
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-03 05:48 +0100
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 04:30 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2017-01-07 22:06 +0100
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-31 11:27 -0700
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 19:57 +0100
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:36 -0500
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:12 -0500
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:09 -0500
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-31 19:38 +0100
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 12:37 -0800
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-31 20:58 -0500
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:02 -0500
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2016-12-31 14:53 -0500
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:46 -0600
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 18:25 -0500
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 00:54 +0100
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 22:20 -0500
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2017-01-01 12:12 +0100
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:34 -0500
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-12-31 14:08 -0500
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 04:17 -0600
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 08:30 -0500
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 13:23 -0600
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-03 18:18 -0500
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 17:58 -0600
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-04 03:59 -0500
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 20:28 -0800
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-04 23:29 -0500
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-03 21:56 -0500
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2016-12-31 16:11 -0500
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Yanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr> - 2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 19:58 -0800
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 02:35 -0500
            Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:35 -0800
              Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-01-02 12:28 -0700
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 12:05 -0800
                  Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2017-01-02 16:16 -0500
                Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2017-01-03 11:24 +0100
    Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-12-31 17:02 -0600
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2017-01-03 03:37 -0600
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 13:27 -0600
      Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-03 16:21 -0500
        Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2017-01-03 19:04 -0600
          Re: Free texting and calling via WiFi? "TomR" <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> - 2017-01-04 15:14 -0500

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#37083

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2016-12-31 14:08 -0500
Message-ID<h70g6clgin5um73ipuo84c8ql8l3vm1uic@4ax.com>
In reply to#37074
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:01:24 -0500, "TomR"
<TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> wrote:

>
>And, I can't tell if Hangouts, for example, would enable my friend's son to 
>send and receive texts, photos, and phone calls to/from any cell phone -- or 
>if it would only work if the other person also has the same App installed 
>such as Hangouts (for example).


Requires v. 2.3 or higher. 

So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 

But I do have whatsapp working. 

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#37216

FromM.L. <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2017-01-03 04:17 -0600
Message-ID<paum6chgoebk00bk7fhv9cfs2o3o1orc76@4ax.com>
In reply to#37083

>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 

That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.

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#37219

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2017-01-03 08:30 -0500
Message-ID<9o9n6c9l133kf1brp5utu1dj1t624jl928@4ax.com>
In reply to#37216
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 03 Jan 2017 04:17:07 -0600, M.L.
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 
>
>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.

But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
followed the conversation here correctly.)

At any rate, it never mentioned setting up GV too. 

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#37231

FromM.L. <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2017-01-03 13:23 -0600
Message-ID<tfun6c9948ql017ka5m3rglhdsd8d66ep4@4ax.com>
In reply to#37219

>>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 
>>
>>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.
>
>But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
>I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
>without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
>followed the conversation here correctly.)

Hangouts needs a GVoice account.

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#37249

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2017-01-03 18:18 -0500
Message-ID<a7co6ctogkc83jplm2ip6e4o7ql17shj4t@4ax.com>
In reply to#37231
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 03 Jan 2017 13:23:55 -0600, M.L.
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>>>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 
>>>
>>>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>>>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.
>>
>>But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
>>I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
>>without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
>>followed the conversation here correctly.)
>
>Hangouts needs a GVoice account.

It would have been nice if it had told me that.  ;-)

Do you know if Duo needs anything else?   When I have time, I'll install
that. 

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#37251

FromM.L. <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2017-01-03 17:58 -0600
Message-ID<erdo6cdnn5hidoq7e1hjtfcep8qtjg0s33@4ax.com>
In reply to#37249

>>>>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>>>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 
>>>>
>>>>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>>>>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.
>>>
>>>But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
>>>I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
>>>without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
>>>followed the conversation here correctly.)
>>
>>Hangouts needs a GVoice account.
>
>It would have been nice if it had told me that.  ;-)
>
>Do you know if Duo needs anything else?   When I have time, I'll install
>that. 

Duo just needs a GV# or other valid phone number that can reach a
recipient.

Both parties must have an Internet connection.

On Android, calls to a non-Duo phone will force a popup to select
between Hangouts app, cellular phone/GV app, or Messenger app to
complete the call.

Participant(s) without a GV# will incur cellular call charges.

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#37285

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2017-01-04 03:59 -0500
Message-ID<t6ep6ctunf4nk3lga7ihf2dtigb7i0ko9j@4ax.com>
In reply to#37251
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:58:55 -0600, M.L.
<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>>>>>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>>>>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied. 
>>>>>
>>>>>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>>>>>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.
>>>>
>>>>But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
>>>>I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
>>>>without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
>>>>followed the conversation here correctly.)
>>>
>>>Hangouts needs a GVoice account.
>>
>>It would have been nice if it had told me that.  ;-)
>>
>>Do you know if Duo needs anything else?   When I have time, I'll install
>>that. 

I tried tonight, and it too didn't mention GVoice, and it did say to
enter a 6-digit code, but then it said "If you didnt' get the code, wait
another 60 seconds" and then the option was to "Resend SMS" which I did
and 60 seconds later still didn't get a text.  I'll work on it again
another day. 

>Duo just needs a GV# or other valid phone number that can reach a
>recipient.
>
>Both parties must have an Internet connection.
>
>On Android, calls to a non-Duo phone will force a popup to select
>between Hangouts app, cellular phone/GV app, or Messenger app to
>complete the call.
>
>Participant(s) without a GV# will incur cellular call charges.

Thanks.   A lot to remember. 

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#37363

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-04 20:28 -0800
Message-ID<o4khu0$8u7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37231
On 01/03/2017 11:23 AM, M.L. wrote:
>
>
>>>>So I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
>>>>code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?   I'm stymied.
>>>
>>>That's probably the verification code sent via voice or text to the
>>>forwarding number you gave when setting up your Google Voice number.
>>
>>But I haven't set up GVoice.   I'm only trying to set up Hangouts, which
>>I thought would work without GV.    I thought it normally was used
>>without GV, (but that GV might for some purposes require Hangouts, if I
>>followed the conversation here correctly.)
>
> Hangouts needs a GVoice account.

Which is free with every gmail account.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     "I wish I had more time to seek out the dark forces
      and join their hellish crusade."        -- Clarice

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#37364

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2017-01-04 23:29 -0500
Message-ID<040120172329426430%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#37363
In article <o4khu0$8u7$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Hangouts needs a GVoice account.
> 
> Which is free with every gmail account.

google voice does not require a gmail account. 

it requires a google account, which can be any valid email.

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#37263

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2017-01-03 21:56 -0500
Message-ID<o6yyi950owbm.4j5yzygiy58o.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#37083
On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:08:24 -0500, micky wrote:

> I tried to set up and to verify my phone number it said to "enter the
> code", which appears to have 4 numbers.  What code?

As M.L. also tried to say, it would have tried to send a code, by voice or
by SMS, to the "my phone number", as above, that it sought to verify.

HTH now. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#37095

From"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
Date2016-12-31 16:11 -0500
Message-ID<mh7g6chq83naohkmc7rnfdmequl70s01kp@4ax.com>
In reply to#37074
Per TomR:
>My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid phone 
>service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and 
>maybe also send and receive photos.  Mostly, his son would like to be able 
>to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them.

Does the mother have an android phone or tablet?

If so, maybe give WeChat a try.

There are lots of freebie communication-type apps out there, but
WeChat's claim to fame for me is that it incorporates many means into a
single app: Voice Phone, Video Phone, Texting, leaving voice messages,
sending pix, and so-forth.

The hitch, of course, is that both persons have to have WeChat
installed.

The only gripe I have with WeChat is that it needs a WiFi connection. It
would be nice if they could make it optionally use the phone's telephone
system like plain old texting does.
-- 
Pete Cresswell

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#37099

FromYanis Bernard <YanisBernards_jonque@orange.fr>
Date2016-12-31 23:29 +0100
Message-ID<o49bgu$dog$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#37095
(PeteCresswell) said:

> Does the mother have an android phone or tablet?

As TheRealBev said, if it's a SIM-enabled tablet, then T-Mobile will give
you for about $10 or $15 a SIM card that gives you 200MB/month of data for
life for free.

Add GV+Hangouts to that tablet, and the tablet becomes a "real"
speakerphone, able to send/receive calls to/from the USA for free.

This I have done so I know it works well.

The phone number of the tablet isn't what people call. 
They call the GV phone number that Google gives you when you set up Google
VOice.

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#37122

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-12-31 19:58 -0800
Message-ID<o49ull$g4t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37099
On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
> (PeteCresswell) said:
>
>> Does the mother have an android phone or tablet?
>
> As TheRealBev said, if it's a SIM-enabled tablet, then T-Mobile will give
> you for about $10 or $15 a SIM card that gives you 200MB/month of data for
> life for free.
>
> Add GV+Hangouts to that tablet, and the tablet becomes a "real"
> speakerphone, able to send/receive calls to/from the USA for free.
>
> This I have done so I know it works well.
>
> The phone number of the tablet isn't what people call.
> They call the GV phone number that Google gives you when you set up Google
> VOice.

Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free 
data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for 
hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "Yahoo has released its own search engine. For more info,
     type 'yahoo search engine' into Google."       -D.Miller

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#37149

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2017-01-02 02:35 -0500
Message-ID<6k0k6cdg6fvkqh9ns0h1a86i82qk9bb688@4ax.com>
In reply to#37122
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:58:06 -0800, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
>> (PeteCresswell) said:
>>
>>> Does the mother have an android phone or tablet?
>>
>> As TheRealBev said, if it's a SIM-enabled tablet, then T-Mobile will give
>> you for about $10 or $15 a SIM card that gives you 200MB/month of data for
>> life for free.
>>
>> Add GV+Hangouts to that tablet, and the tablet becomes a "real"
>> speakerphone, able to send/receive calls to/from the USA for free.
>>
>> This I have done so I know it works well.
>>
>> The phone number of the tablet isn't what people call.
>> They call the GV phone number that Google gives you when you set up Google
>> VOice.
>
>Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free 
>data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for 
>hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.

If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis. 

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#37172

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-02 10:35 -0800
Message-ID<o4e6f6$hf5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37149
On 01/01/2017 11:35 PM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:58:06 -0800, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
>>> (PeteCresswell) said:
>>>
>>>> Does the mother have an android phone or tablet?
>>>
>>> As TheRealBev said, if it's a SIM-enabled tablet, then T-Mobile will give
>>> you for about $10 or $15 a SIM card that gives you 200MB/month of data for
>>> life for free.
>>>
>>> Add GV+Hangouts to that tablet, and the tablet becomes a "real"
>>> speakerphone, able to send/receive calls to/from the USA for free.
>>>
>>> This I have done so I know it works well.
>>>
>>> The phone number of the tablet isn't what people call.
>>> They call the GV phone number that Google gives you when you set up Google
>>> VOice.
>>
>>Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free
>>data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for
>>hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.
>
> If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis.

We have computers to take care of all that now...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
     is not thus handicapped."
                 -- Elbert Hubbard, American author

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#37177

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2017-01-02 12:28 -0700
Message-ID<1dal6ct33vc3g7fu8jlumspp52oto0sokp@4ax.com>
In reply to#37172
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:35:45 -0800, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 01/01/2017 11:35 PM, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:58:06 -0800, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:

>>>Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free
>>>data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for
>>>hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.
>>
>> If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis.
>
>We have computers to take care of all that now...


What? Your computer takes care of spinning your head off its axis?
Mine doesn't do that. <vbg>

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#37180

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2017-01-02 12:05 -0800
Message-ID<o4ebnd$5h8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37177
On 01/02/2017 11:28 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:35:45 -0800, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 01/01/2017 11:35 PM, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:58:06 -0800, The Real Bev
>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
>
>>>>Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free
>>>>data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for
>>>>hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.
>>>
>>> If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis.
>>
>>We have computers to take care of all that now...
>
> What? Your computer takes care of spinning your head off its axis?
> Mine doesn't do that. <vbg>

Remote control.  Ball bearings.  It just WORKS!

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Ride faster, I hear banjo music!

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#37184

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
Date2017-01-02 16:16 -0500
Message-ID<togl6c1ifk9jt8tr23fjmaaa4la2koi273@4ax.com>
In reply to#37180
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:05:28 -0800, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 01/02/2017 11:28 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 10:35:45 -0800, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 01/01/2017 11:35 PM, micky wrote:
>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:58:06 -0800, The Real Bev
>>>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 12/31/2016 02:29 PM, Yanis Bernard wrote:
>>
>>>>>Or whatever number the SIM provides.  I have a separate T-Mobile 'free
>>>>>data' number, a Freedompop number, a couple of google voice numbers (for
>>>>>hangouts) and my real t-mobile prepaid number.
>>>>
>>>> If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis.
>>>
>>>We have computers to take care of all that now...
>>
>> What? Your computer takes care of spinning your head off its axis?
>> Mine doesn't do that. <vbg>

I think Stuxnet controls how fast it spins. 
>
>Remote control.  Ball bearings.  It just WORKS!

Yes!

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#37217

FromPiet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid>
Date2017-01-03 11:24 +0100
Message-ID<o4fu48$1ca5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#37177
Ken Blake wrote:
>The Real Bev wrote:
>> micky wrote:
>>> If I had all that, my head would spin off its axis.
>>
>> We have computers to take care of all that now...
> 
> What? Your computer takes care of spinning your head off its axis?
> Mine doesn't do that. <vbg>

It does. It's just that you haven't noticed yet.

-p

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#37105

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2016-12-31 17:02 -0600
Message-ID<ecqrohFesq0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37074
TomR <TomR@TomRhjghgl.ncm> wrote:

> My friend has a young son with an Android phone, but with no paid phone 
> service on the phone.  My friend also has Cable Internet with a WiFi modem 
> at home.
> 
> Currently, his young son is able to use the WiFi connection at home to 
> download and play free games and Apps from the Google Play Store.  He can 
> also use his phone to take pictures and videos and he can store them on his 
> father's laptop by plugging in a USB cable to the laptop and transferring 
> the photos and videos.
> 
> My question is whether his son can use his Android phone with no paid phone 
> service to make and receive phone calls and send and receive texts -- and 
> maybe also send and receive photos.  Mostly, his son would like to be able 
> to do this with his son's mother who does not live with them.
> 
> If I could figure out how this all works, I could help my friend get it all 
> set up on his son's phone.  I heard that there may be free Apps like 
> Hangouts that can do these things for free, but when I try looking into it I 
> can't tell exactly how they would work.
> 
> And, I can't tell if Hangouts, for example, would enable my friend's son to 
> send and receive texts, photos, and phone calls to/from any cell phone -- or 
> if it would only work if the other person also has the same App installed 
> such as Hangouts (for example).
> 
> Can anyone here suggest a way for me to set up my friend's son's phone to do 
> these things for free?  Which App or Apps should I try?  Will they work in 
> sending to/from ANY cell phone, or just to/from cell phones that have the 
> same App installed?
> 
> Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Get a free Google Voice account.  That gives you an actual phone number
to which you can receive calls and also make them.  VOIP apps work over
the Internet to connect to other VOIP endpoints.  That won't work to
call someone's phone number or let them call you from a phone number.  

Install the Google Voice app on the smartphone and configure it.  If you
want every callee to see your Google Voice number (instead of the
Voice2Go number mentioned below) then configure the Google Voice app to
handle all outbound calls.  The outbound call (whether via cellular
voice or wi-fi voice) goes to a Google POP (Point of Presence) at a
telco they choose and changes the Caller ID info to make it look like
the call originated from your Google Voice phone number.  However, what
you see in your phone's display is you calling the Google Voice center
rather than the person you are calling.

Then install the Google Hangouts Dialer app.  The Google Hangouts apps
is probably pre-installed but you need to add its Dialer companion app.
Now you can make phone calls via wi-fi from the phone to call the phone
numbers of anyone with one, and callers can call you from their phone
number.  

Because Google Voice has voicemail, you get alerts when someone left you
a message.  Either the Hangouts Dialer via Hangouts will tell you about
the new voicemail or you can configure Google Voice to send an e-mail
alert (i.e., you get an e-mail about new voicemail).

To get the full benefit of SMS in the Hangouts app, change your Google
Voice account to use Google's Hangout service.  Then you can use either
the Google Hangouts site (hangouts.google.com) or the Hangouts app to do
texting.

You should also check who is the ISP at his home.  If Comcast, they have
their own wi-fi app to make calls (to and from phone numbers, not just
VOIP users).  The problem is that a phone number has to be assigned to
his member account at Comcast.  Since he is not paying for Comcast, get
his parent(s) to create a Comcast member account for him (if he does not
yet have one) which lets him have his own e-mail account there.  Once he
has a member account, have the owner go under voice settings in their
account to create a new Voice2Go phone number.  This is free.  An owner
can create up to 6 Voice2Go numbers.  You have to wait after issuing the
request for it to change from Pend status to Assigned status.  Then the
owner can assign one, or more, of the available non-pending Voice2Go
numbers to the owner account or to any of the member accounts.  If that
account is ever deleted, the Voice2Go number assigned to it is lost,
too.  

After getting the Comcast/Xfinity account configured to add to it a
Voice2Go number, install Comcast's Connect app where you can do texting.
When making an outbound phone call, a prompt will appear asking which
dialer you want to use to actually make the call.  Select the Connect
app to make a wi-fi call.  Incoming calls to the Voice2Go number will
ring the app.  Voice2Go includes voicemail, too.  

If you are never going to add cellular voice service to the phone, when
the prompt appears asking which dialer to use then select the Connect
app and tap on the Always button.  That will eliminate seeing the prompt
each time; however, you will have to clear the app's data (and have to 
reenter your account login) if you ever want the prompt to reappear.

When I make a call, I get an intervening prompt asking if I want to use
Phone (built-in cellular phone service), Connect (Comcast's wi-fi), or
Google Voice (wi-fi calling).  I do NOT click on Always because instead
I always want to see the prompt of which dialer and access method to
use.  Even if I have cellular phone service and get a good signal
wherever I happen to be, I might want to save on my cellular call
minutes by using wi-fi if available.  I don't bother with overpriced
unlimited calling plans.  I use Tracfone whose unused minutes rollover
(as long as I keep an account open with them).  I don't make that many
calls so I always have lots of unused minutes to rollover into the next
subscription.  So the parents could get a Tracfone account for their kid
and not pay much but the kid could save those limited minutes for more
important calls and use wi-fi calling to make/receive calls - but that
only works if he is in range of a wi-fi hotspot.  He has a hotspot at
home but when away from home there are lots of free wi-fi hotspots.
They are not as pervasive as cellular coverage and why having some
cellular call time would still help, like when the kid has an emergency
and needs to call home or anytime he is not in wi-fi range.  

With wi-fi calling (not VOIPing), I use little of my cellular call
minutes, so I get a lot of rollover with Tracfone.  In fact, at my home,
I have to use wi-fi calling.  Signal strength at home for cellular voice
is way too weak.  I don't get incoming calls and outbound calls are
unreliable (might not be able to start a call or it cuts up or
disconnects during the call).  So wi-fi calling using Google Voice and
Hangouts Dialer is how I do cell phone calling via wi-fi from home.  I'd
have to install a tall antenna and amplifer costing several hundred
dollars to maybe get a better cellular signal at home.  Don't need to
waste the money and instead use free Google Voice service with the
Google Voice and Hangouts Dialer apps on the smartphone and, as a
backup, also have a Voice2Go number assigned to my Comcast account and
use their Connect app on the smartphone.  I have 2 means of wi-fi
calling (in and out) which connects to phone numbers.  

VOIP limits me to other users with VOIP apps.  I did have the Skype app
installed along with a Microsoft (Outlook.com) account.  The number of
folks that also had Skype that I wanted to talk with was a very small
community (less than the fingers on one hand) so it got little use.
Because it got used so little meant I was clumsy at using it.  I did buy
3 years of Office 365 subscription which gives me something like 60
minutes of free calling (to phone numbers, not just VOIP) per month but
I never ended up using it.  The other above mentioned wi-fi calling
setups were easier to use.  Without the included phone minutes, all I'd
get with Skype is VOIP and that doesn't interest me nor do I know many
folks (that I want to talk with) that have Skype.  I used to leave Skype
installed as yet another backup wi-fi phone calling setup; however, I
grew weary of it always crashing soon after powering up the smartphone
(I'd get a message that com.<something>.skype had stopped which meant it
was useless), so I uninstalled it.  I really didn't need a 3rd wi-fi
calling option, especially one with limited minutes per month, when I
had 2 free and unlimited wi-fi calling options (Google Voice, Comcast).

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