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Email app with spam filtering

Started byKen1943 <kenw@no295no.net>
First post2016-12-27 13:48 -0700
Last post2016-12-29 04:29 -0500
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  Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-27 13:48 -0700
    Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-27 23:58 -0500
      Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 06:24 +0100
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 01:36 -0500
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 08:56 +0100
            Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 03:25 -0500
          Re: Email app with spam filtering nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-28 10:20 -0500
            Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 15:32 -0500
          Re: Email app with spam filtering I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2016-12-28 17:10 +0000
            Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 15:33 -0500
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-12-28 10:24 +0100
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 13:15 +0100
            Re: Email app with spam filtering Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-12-28 13:52 +0100
              Re: Email app with spam filtering "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-29 02:42 +0100
                Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-29 09:15 -0700
                Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-29 07:47 +0100
                  Re: Email app with spam filtering "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-30 14:17 +0100
              Re: Email app with spam filtering Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-12-28 22:18 +0100
              Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 21:25 +0100
    Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-28 07:25 -0700
      Re: Email app with spam filtering "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-12-28 18:33 +0100
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-28 11:12 -0700
        Re: Email app with spam filtering "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-12-28 22:36 +0100
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 17:55 -0500
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-29 07:51 +0100
            Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-29 02:17 -0500
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 21:26 +0100
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-28 17:51 -0700
      Re: Email app with spam filtering "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-28 19:02 +0100
      Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 20:33 -0500
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-28 18:41 -0700
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 21:15 -0500
            Re: Email app with spam filtering "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-29 03:35 +0100
      Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-28 15:36 -0500
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-29 08:15 +0100
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> - 2016-12-28 17:53 -0700
      Re: Email app with spam filtering "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-12-28 22:36 +0100
        Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-29 07:54 +0100
          Re: Email app with spam filtering Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-12-29 02:23 -0500
      Re: Email app with spam filtering Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-12-28 21:27 +0100
    Re: Email app with spam filtering Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-12-29 17:00 +0000
    Re: Email app with spam filtering tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-12-29 04:29 -0500

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#36998

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2016-12-28 18:33 +0100
Message-ID<eciba7Fd1a4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36994
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:25:34 -0700, Ken1943 wrote:

> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
> does what I want.

Let us know if you find one. I don't think there are any out there.

-- 
s|b

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#37000

FromKen1943 <kenw@no295no.net>
Date2016-12-28 11:12 -0700
Message-ID<hrv76cd67v5r99uiv1q246na1voofv53gr@4ax.com>
In reply to#36998
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:33:01 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:25:34 -0700, Ken1943 wrote:
>
>> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
>> does what I want.
>
>Let us know if you find one. I don't think there are any out there.
I had one, forgot name, needed too much info for entry which was hard
to get on a phone.

The spam filter is only used for things like Trip Advisor and
companies that send too much junk emails.


Ken1943

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#37009

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2016-12-28 22:36 +0100
Message-ID<ecipidFgjfvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36998
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:26:36 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> K9?

The question mark shows you're not sure and I am pretty sure K-9 does
not support filters/rules.

-- 
s|b

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#37033

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-28 17:55 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6ECB650DE986nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#37009
On 28 Dec 2016, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in 
comp.mobile.android:

> The question mark shows you're not sure and I am pretty sure K-9 does
> not support filters/rules.

I'm looking at it right now... K9 doesn't support filtering.

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#37044

FromJoerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
Date2016-12-29 07:51 +0100
Message-ID<o42bpb$57v$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#37009
Am 28.12.16 um 22:36 schrieb s|b:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:26:36 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> K9?
>
> The question mark shows you're not sure and I am pretty sure K-9 does
> not support filters/rules.
>
I'm pretty sure it does:

After you have trained it a bit, K9 knows spam from good mail pretty 
precisely. But if only K9 knows the benefit for you is negligible.

There must be a way for K9 to communicate this knowledge about spam to 
you -- or your email client for automatic filtering. As it turns out, 
there is more than one way.

You can have K9 mark spam in the Subject so you can spot it at a glance. 
This Subject-line marking is also useful if you use an email client that 
can only filter on a few header lines (Outlook Express for example).

If you want to have junk mail moved to a special folder silently, you 
can tell K9 to add a custom header line to messages it identifies as 
spam. Then your email client can filter mail based on this line.

To configure how K9 marks spam:

Open K9.
Go to the Configuration tab.
Select the desired marking method under Mark emails as Spam by....

https://www.lifewire.com/k9-spam-email-filter-1164807

Joerg

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#37049

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-29 02:17 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6ED175C4872Fnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#37044
On 29 Dec 2016, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> I'm pretty sure it does:

No, it does not.

> To configure how K9 marks spam:
> 
> Open K9.
> Go to the Configuration tab.
> Select the desired marking method under Mark emails as Spam by....
> 
> https://www.lifewire.com/k9-spam-email-filter-1164807

That is not the product being discussed. In this discussion, K-9 is an 
Android email client. 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

You are talking about K9, a trainable email filter for Windows POP3 
clients. Development ceased in 2004.

http://keir.net/k9.html

K-9 has no filtering features.

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#37038

FromJoerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
Date2016-12-28 21:26 +0100
Message-ID<o4175s$in7$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#36998
Am 28.12.16 um 18:33 schrieb s|b:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:25:34 -0700, Ken1943 wrote:
>
>> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
>> does what I want.
>
> Let us know if you find one. I don't think there are any out there.
>
K9?

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#37054

FromKen1943 <kenw@no295no.net>
Date2016-12-28 17:51 -0700
Message-ID<sfn86clkv8ifn5c19e6v5ekvt8dblivbth@4ax.com>
In reply to#37038
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:26:36 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:

>Am 28.12.16 um 18:33 schrieb s|b:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:25:34 -0700, Ken1943 wrote:
>>
>>> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
>>> does what I want.
>>
>> Let us know if you find one. I don't think there are any out there.
>>
>K9?
Nope


Ken1943

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#36999

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-12-28 19:02 +0100
Message-ID<s9bdjd-k14.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#36994
On 2016-12-28 15:25, Ken1943 wrote:

> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
> does what I want.

Sorry, I don't know of one for Android, possibly because spam filtering
is heavy on CPU. I'd tell you if I knew of one.

I prefer local filtering to server filtering, because I have more
control on what to consider spam and what not. My ISP silently rejects
emails without telling me, some posts do not even get to the spam
folder. And they are perfectly valid posts, like, for instance, asking
about if a certain URL is good or bad guys.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#37001

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-28 20:33 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6ECD11E491C9nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#36994
On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote
in comp.mobile.android: 

> What is so hard asking if an email client has filtering ?

I don't know. You tell me.

a) You didn't ask that (or any other) question. You started the thread 
musing about Aquamail and that was all.

b) What is so hard about responding to a suggestion?

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#37005

FromKen1943 <kenw@no295no.net>
Date2016-12-28 18:41 -0700
Message-ID<3cq86chunoc8ouk0ahd735vj3emju7g9us@4ax.com>
In reply to#37001
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:33:25 -0500, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

>On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote
>in comp.mobile.android: 
>
>> What is so hard asking if an email client has filtering ?
>
>I don't know. You tell me.
>
>a) You didn't ask that (or any other) question. You started the thread 
>musing about Aquamail and that was all.
>
>b) What is so hard about responding to a suggestion?

The heading says plenty.


Ken1943

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#37006

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-28 21:15 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6ECD83363164nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#37005
On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote
in comp.mobile.android: 

> The heading says plenty.

The heading is plenty vague. Are you asking about Auqamail or the "Pro 
version" or what? If you want a coherent answer, you have to ask a 
coherent question. 

Question marks help.

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#37007

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es>
Date2016-12-29 03:35 +0100
Message-ID<0c9ejd-m43.ln1@minas-tirith.valinor>
In reply to#37006
On 2016-12-29 03:15, Nil wrote:
> On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote
> in comp.mobile.android: 
> 
>> The heading says plenty.
> 
> The heading is plenty vague. Are you asking about Auqamail or the "Pro 
> version" or what? If you want a coherent answer, you have to ask a 
> coherent question. 

Email app with spam filtering

Pretty simple question :-)

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#37008

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-28 15:36 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6EC9EC587FFDnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#36994
On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote in 
comp.mobile.android:

> I just asked a simple question and not a who, what, where, when or
> why.

Well, you didn't ask an actual question. But I tried to guess what 
question you would be asking, had you asked an actual question, and I 
gave an answer for that question... an answer which you apparently 
didn't like.
 
> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
> does what I want.

OK. Have fun!

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#37048

FromJoerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
Date2016-12-29 08:15 +0100
Message-ID<o42d5p$493$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#37008
Am 29.12.16 um 01:53 schrieb Ken1943:
> What is so hard asking if an email client has filtering ?

You asked about "spam filtering" in the topic. Spam filtering is 
completely different from general filtering. It is so simple.

> Ken1943

Joerg


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#37053

FromKen1943 <kenw@no295no.net>
Date2016-12-28 17:53 -0700
Message-ID<kin86ctupgeglt25pnsj747gu9m83bmenv@4ax.com>
In reply to#37008
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:36:28 -0500, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

>On 28 Dec 2016, Ken1943                     <kenw@no295no.net> wrote in 
>comp.mobile.android:
>
>> I just asked a simple question and not a who, what, where, when or
>> why.
>
>Well, you didn't ask an actual question. But I tried to guess what 
>question you would be asking, had you asked an actual question, and I 
>gave an answer for that question... an answer which you apparently 
>didn't like.
> 
>> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
>> does what I want.
>
>OK. Have fun!

What is so hard asking if an email client has filtering ?


Ken1943

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#37010

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2016-12-28 22:36 +0100
Message-ID<ecipj2FgjfvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36994
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:27:16 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> K9

Are you sure of that?

-- 
s|b

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#37045

FromJoerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
Date2016-12-29 07:54 +0100
Message-ID<o42bu8$57v$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#37010
Am 28.12.16 um 22:36 schrieb s|b:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:27:16 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> K9
>
> Are you sure of that?
>
Topic: Email app with spam filtering

It does.

"After you have trained it a bit, K9 knows spam from good mail pretty 
precisely. But if only K9 knows the benefit for you is negligible.

There must be a way for K9 to communicate this knowledge about spam to 
you -- or your email client for automatic filtering. As it turns out, 
there is more than one way.

You can have K9 mark spam in the Subject so you can spot it at a glance. 
This Subject-line marking is also useful if you use an email client that 
can only filter on a few header lines (Outlook Express for example).

If you want to have junk mail moved to a special folder silently, you 
can tell K9 to add a custom header line to messages it identifies as 
spam. Then your email client can filter mail based on this line.

To configure how K9 marks spam:

Open K9.
Go to the Configuration tab.
Select the desired marking method under Mark emails as Spam by...."


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#37050

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-12-29 02:23 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6ED18410F9DAnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#37045
On 29 Dec 2016, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> Topic: Email app with spam filtering
> 
> It does.

Not.

> You can have K9 mark spam in the Subject so you can spot it at a
> glance. This Subject-line marking is also useful if you use an
> email client that can only filter on a few header lines (Outlook
> Express for example). 

The article you quote is not about an email client. The fact that they 
talk about Outlook Express should be a clue that the product is not 
even for Android.

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#37039

FromJoerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
Date2016-12-28 21:27 +0100
Message-ID<o41774$in7$3@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#36994
Am 28.12.16 um 15:25 schrieb Ken1943:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:48:19 -0700, Ken1943 <kenw@no295no.net> wrote:
>
>> Just installed Aquamail and no filtering. Don't know about the Pro
>> version.
>>
>>
>> Ken1943
>
> I just asked a simple question and not a who, what, where, when or
> why.
>
> Forget it, I will just try every email program until I find one that
> does what I want.

K9

> Ken1943

Jörg


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