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  [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 12:29 +0000
    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-11-19 12:35 +0000
      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 12:48 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-11-19 13:05 +0000
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 13:13 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-11-19 13:34 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-19 14:55 +0100
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 15:23 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-20 14:27 +0100
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 13:59 -0500
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-20 20:01 +0000
                Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 15:43 -0500
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:22 -0500
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-21 01:47 +0000
                Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-21 19:26 -0500
                Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-21 19:39 -0500
                  Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-22 04:23 +0100
                    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-22 01:51 -0500
                      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-22 11:22 +0000
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-21 15:03 +0100
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? John #9 <john#9@Invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-19 15:30 +0000
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? John #9 <john#9@Invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-19 15:37 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 17:48 +0000
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Terry Casey <k.type@example.invalid> - 2016-11-19 18:08 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 19:01 +0000
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:27 -0500
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-20 14:19 +0100
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 18:56 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 13:50 -0500
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2016-11-23 08:35 +0000
    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 12:41 +0000
      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 13:07 +0000
      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2016-11-19 13:54 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 15:17 +0000
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2016-11-20 02:48 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Someone Somewhere <nntpac@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 07:59 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-20 10:30 +0000
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2016-11-20 17:29 +0000
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:36 -0500
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:32 -0500
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-20 22:08 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-20 14:22 +0100
    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2016-11-19 08:45 -0500
      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-19 15:14 +0000
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 06:13 +1100
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2016-11-19 14:36 -0500
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 08:19 +1100
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2016-11-19 17:47 -0500
                Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 09:53 +1100
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:40 -0500
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2016-11-20 14:53 -0500
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 07:40 +1100
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2016-11-21 01:17 +0000
    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-19 17:45 +0000
      Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-20 14:27 +0100
        Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-20 18:09 +0000
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 07:18 +1100
          Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-21 21:36 +0100
            Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-22 15:57 +0000
              Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-22 19:16 +0100
                Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-23 03:02 -0500
                  Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-23 14:46 +0100
                    Re: [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-24 18:54 -0500

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#36036 — [OT] 3.5mm stereo to mono adapter with switch?

I'm looking for an adapter which goes from a 3.5mm stereo plug to
3.5mm mono socket similar to this: 

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s5/27-7921.jpg 

However I want the adapter to provide a mono/stereo switch. 

Ideally one solid piece including the switch.  An inline adapter
cable with a mono/stereo switch might be okay.  I can't find
anything! 

This is for carrying around so ease of use is important which
means anything with a box is no good. 





-- 
cross-posted

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#36037

pamela wrote:

> I'm looking for an adapter which goes from a 3.5mm stereo plug to
> 3.5mm mono socket
> However I want the adapter to provide a mono/stereo switch.

What would you expect the adapter to do when the switch is in the stereo 
position?

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#36039

On 12:35  19 Nov 2016, Andy Burns wrote:

> pamela wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for an adapter which goes from a 3.5mm stereo plug
>> to 3.5mm mono socket
>> However I want the adapter to provide a mono/stereo switch.
> 
> What would you expect the adapter to do when the switch is in
> the stereo position?

I want the stereo signal to pass through the adapter as stereo.

Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono socket of a 
dictation machine which means the signal connection is made only with 
the left channel of the stereo plug.  

Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono on 
stereo headphones.

(At other times, I just want to hear a stereo source in stereo as 
usual.)

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#36040

pamela wrote:

> On 12:35  19 Nov 2016, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> pamela wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for an adapter which goes from a 3.5mm stereo plug
>>> to 3.5mm mono socket
>>> However I want the adapter to provide a mono/stereo switch.
>>
>> What would you expect the adapter to do when the switch is in
>> the stereo position?
>
> I want the stereo signal to pass through the adapter as stereo.

But it's only got a mono socket, so it can't.

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#36042

On 13:05  19 Nov 2016, Andy Burns wrote:

> pamela wrote:
> 
>> On 12:35  19 Nov 2016, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> pamela wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for an adapter which goes from a 3.5mm stereo plug
>>>> to 3.5mm mono socket
>>>> However I want the adapter to provide a mono/stereo switch.
>>>
>>> What would you expect the adapter to do when the switch is in
>>> the stereo position?
>>
>> I want the stereo signal to pass through the adapter as stereo.
> 
> But it's only got a mono socket, so it can't.

Maybe I should write "mono output" rather than "mono socket".  

As I said, the picture is not exactly what I want but similar.  I
have used it to show the sort of one piece inline adapter I want. 
The connections and the switch would be different. 

A second best would be a similar one piece adapter with a 3.5mm
stereo plug and a 3.5mm stereo socket but permanently wired to
short the two signal leads to give dual mono output.

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#36043

pamela wrote:

>> But it's only got a mono socket, so it can't.
>
> Maybe I should write "mono output" rather than "mono socket".

In which case, NT's suggestion should do the trick, insert shorting plug 
for mono, remove for stereo.

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#36047

On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote:

> Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono socket of a 
> dictation machine which means the signal connection is made only with 
> the left channel of the stereo plug.  

This is simple to do, but I often build my own. Should not be too
difficult to find on good shops.


> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono on 
> stereo headphones.

This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the output
amplifiers. Better find a software solution.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#36050

On 13:55  19 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote: 

> On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote: 
> 
>> Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono socket
>> of a dictation machine which means the signal connection is 
>> made only with the left channel of the stereo plug.  
> 
> This is simple to do, but I often build my own. Should not be 
> too difficult to find on good shops. 
> 
> 
>> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono 
>> on stereo headphones. 
> 
> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the output 
> amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 

As a quick and dirty solution, it works well enough and without 
disaster whenever I tried it on what I guess would be a 100 to 200
mV output.

I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
but I hardly ever see one these days.  On devices like a PC it
cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor and
players I have used it is never there. 

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#36081

On 2016-11-19 16:23, pamela wrote:
> On 13:55  19 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote: 
> 
>> On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote: 


>>> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono 
>>> on stereo headphones. 
>>
>> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the output 
>> amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 
> 
> As a quick and dirty solution, it works well enough and without 
> disaster whenever I tried it on what I guess would be a 100 to 200
> mV output.

I'm an electronics engineer. It is against my ethics to recommend such a
system.

> I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
> but I hardly ever see one these days.  On devices like a PC it
> cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor and
> players I have used it is never there. 

It should be a button in the audio mixer.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#36095

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>
>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
>but I hardly ever see one these days.

Yes, the switch used to be there, but you don't mean that the adapter
used to be sold, do you? 

>  On devices like a PC it
>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor and
>players I have used it is never there. 

You might try sci.elecronics.repair

Months ago in computer ng's I tried to find a PC audio player which
would combine L and R.   I had a pair of v. good PC speakers but one is
broken, and I have a friend who wants to play music from his laptop
through the wall into the kitchen.  He wanted only one speaker, which
worked, out great, but I wanted him to get both channels.  I coudln't
find the software, and so far he hasn't even thought of the problem.  I
was over there a couple days ago and the speaker light was on, though no
sound was coming out. 

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#36104

On 18:59  20 Nov 2016, micky wrote:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
>>but I hardly ever see one these days.
> 
> Yes, the switch used to be there, but you don't mean that the
> adapter used to be sold, do you? 
> 
>>On devices like a PC it
>>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor
>>and players I have used it is never there. 
> 
> You might try sci.elecronics.repair

I didn't realise that was an active group.  I'll bear that group in 
mind in future.  Thanks.

> Months ago in computer ng's I tried to find a PC audio player
> which would combine L and R.   I had a pair of v. good PC
> speakers but one is broken, and I have a friend who wants to
> play music from his laptop through the wall into the kitchen. 
> He wanted only one speaker, which worked, out great, but I
> wanted him to get both channels.  I coudln't find the software,
> and so far he hasn't even thought of the problem.  I was over
> there a couple days ago and the speaker light was on, though no 
> sound was coming out. 

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#36109

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 20 Nov 2016 20:01:43 GMT, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>On 18:59  20 Nov 2016, micky wrote:
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela
>> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
>>>but I hardly ever see one these days.
>> 
>> Yes, the switch used to be there, but you don't mean that the
>> adapter used to be sold, do you? 
>> 
>>>On devices like a PC it
>>>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor
>>>and players I have used it is never there. 
>> 
>> You might try sci.elecronics.repair
>
>I didn't realise that was an active group.  I'll bear that group in 
>mind in future.  Thanks.

A lof ot what they talk about is way over my head, but they will deign
to talk to civilians too. 
>
>> Months ago in computer ng's I tried to find a PC audio player
>> which would combine L and R.   I had a pair of v. good PC
>> speakers but one is broken, and I have a friend who wants to
>> play music from his laptop through the wall into the kitchen. 
>> He wanted only one speaker, which worked, out great, but I
>> wanted him to get both channels.  I coudln't find the software,
>> and so far he hasn't even thought of the problem.  I was over
>> there a couple days ago and the speaker light was on, though no 
>> sound was coming out. 

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#36096

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>On 13:55  19 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote: 
>
>> On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote: 
>> 
>>> Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono socket
>>> of a dictation machine which means the signal connection is 
>>> made only with the left channel of the stereo plug.  
>> 
>> This is simple to do, but I often build my own. Should not be 
>> too difficult to find on good shops. 
>> 
>> 
>>> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono 
>>> on stereo headphones. 
>> 
>> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the output 
>> amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 

Is short circuiting really the right word?  It's not a shorter circuit
than normal, because normally the hot left never gets to the hot right.
And it's not hot to ground, the usual meaning of short-circuit. 

So I'm sure it's recommended against but why would it damage anything? 

>As a quick and dirty solution, it works well enough and without 
>disaster whenever I tried it on what I guess would be a 100 to 200
>mV output.

I have an answer. 

Get a stereo to stereo Y-connector, not hard to get, I've seen lots of
models, some with 4" wires, some with a hard piece of plastic connecting
the three, either outputs or inputs.   I use them to split my PC sound
output, half to the speakers and half to the transmstter for the
wireless speakers.  Sometimes I use a second one to send a third to the
balun that goes to cat-4 to another balun that goes to my DVDR, to play
sound in the bedroom (or maybe that's only the video. I've only done
this for 5 minutes, years ago.) 

Get a stereo plug and connect the L hot to the R hot.  When you want
mono, plug the plug into the unused half of the Y connector.    

 Maybe you can use a hot needle or even an eelctric drill to make a hole
through the plastic case to attach a cord to keep the plug from getting
lost. 
 

>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment
>but I hardly ever see one these days.  On devices like a PC it
>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor and
>players I have used it is never there. 

The plug only suggestion is almost as easy as a swtich.  The only
problem is not losing the plug.  While you're making one, make three.
It will take no more time. 


Or you could just run a wire from the plug's L hot and R hot and use
some sort of inline switch to connect or disconnect them. 

This switch is probably much too big, but you coudl use it. 
https://www.amazon.com/Funnytoday365-Lnline-Table-Control-Switch/dp/B01GXZQWB6/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1479669125&sr=1-6&keywords=inline+switch

I was looking for one less than an inch by less than a half inch, with a
little part of the plastic wheel coming out each side,  that was meant
for a lamp cord, but woudln't be bad here.  I have several that I'm
using, and have for years, but I don't see it yet. I fear that the fear
of lawsuits has caused them to stop selling it.  Maybe it's still
available in a 2nd or 3rd world country, or even Europe with fewer
lawsuits.   Do you know anyone going out of the country on vacation? 

I was worried for nothing, based on other things they no longer sell.
Here it is:    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BG9MNHM?psc=1

You don't need wires coming out of both ends, just one end. 

I use red nail polish to mark ON from Off.  Less than a quarter of the
wheel shows on each side at any one time. 

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#36112

On 19:22  20 Nov 2016, micky wrote: 

> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela 
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote: 
> 
>>On 13:55  19 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote: 
>>
>>> On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono 
>>>> socket of a dictation machine which means the signal 
>>>> connection is made only with the left channel of the stereo 
>>>> plug.  
>>> 
>>> This is simple to do, but I often build my own. Should not be 
>>> too difficult to find on good shops. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono 
>>>> on stereo headphones. 
>>> 
>>> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the 
>>> output amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 
> 
> Is short circuiting really the right word?  It's not a shorter 
> circuit than normal, because normally the hot left never gets to 
> the hot right. And it's not hot to ground, the usual meaning of 
> short-circuit. 

You're probably quite right but I'm not taking an exam, am I? 
Heh!  :-)  

> So I'm sure it's recommended against but why would it damage 
> anything? 
> 
>>As a quick and dirty solution, it works well enough and without 
>>disaster whenever I tried it on what I guess would be a 100 to 
>>200 mV output. 
> 
> I have an answer. 
> 
> Get a stereo to stereo Y-connector, not hard to get, I've seen 
> lots of models, some with 4" wires, some with a hard piece of 
> plastic connecting the three, either outputs or inputs.   I use 
> them to split my PC sound output, half to the speakers and half 
> to the transmstter for the wireless speakers.  Sometimes I use a 
> second one to send a third to the balun that goes to cat-4 to 
> another balun that goes to my DVDR, to play sound in the bedroom 
> (or maybe that's only the video. I've only done this for 5 
> minutes, years ago.) 
> 
> Get a stereo plug and connect the L hot to the R hot.  When you 
> want mono, plug the plug into the unused half of the Y 
> connector.    
> 
> Maybe you can use a hot needle or even an eelctric drill to make 
> a hole through the plastic case to attach a cord to keep the 
> plug from getting lost. 
>  
> 
>>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment 
>>but I hardly ever see one these days.  On devices like a PC it 
>>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor 
>>and players I have used it is never there. 
> 
> The plug only suggestion is almost as easy as a swtich.  The 
> only problem is not losing the plug.  While you're making one, 
> make three. It will take no more time. 
> 
> 
> Or you could just run a wire from the plug's L hot and R hot and 
> use some sort of inline switch to connect or disconnect them. 
> 
> This switch is probably much too big, but you coudl use it. 
> https://www.amazon.com/Funnytoday365-Lnline-Table-Control- 
> Switch/dp/B01GXZQWB6/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid= 
> 1479669125&sr=1-6&keywords=inline+switch 

I tried that using a jack plud to do the shorting (you know what I
mean) but it was tricky to use and needed two hands to do a bit of
shoving and tugging.  I hadn't thought of a switch.  That could
work well. 

> I was looking for one less than an inch by less than a half 
> inch, with a little part of the plastic wheel coming out each 
> side,  that was meant for a lamp cord, but woudln't be bad here. 
> I have several that I'm using, and have for years, but I don't 
> see it yet. I fear that the fear of lawsuits has caused them to 
> stop selling it.  Maybe it's still available in a 2nd or 3rd 
> world country, or even Europe with fewer lawsuits.  Do you know 
> anyone going out of the country on vacation? 
> 
> I was worried for nothing, based on other things they no longer 
> sell. Here it is:    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BG9MNHM?psc=1 
> 
> You don't need wires coming out of both ends, just one end. 
> 
> I use red nail polish to mark ON from Off.  Less than a quarter 
> of the wheel shows on each side at any one time. 

I don't think there'll be a problem finding a suitable switch. 
Thanks. 

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#36128

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 01:47:13 GMT, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>> This switch is probably much too big, but you coudl use it. 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Funnytoday365-Lnline-Table-Control- 
>> Switch/dp/B01GXZQWB6/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid= 
>> 1479669125&sr=1-6&keywords=inline+switch 
>
>I tried that using a jack plud to do the shorting (you know what I
>mean)

I wasnt' objecting to the use of "shorting" except to using it to reach
conclusions which might not apply to this "kind of shorting", and which
afaik are usually about actual shorting. **

I find other, possibly similar, situations where people categorize what
they see and then relate to what they see as if has all of the
charateristics of the category, mabye the worst examples of the
category. 

For example, one kid will do something with or to another kid, or an
adult to another, and it's labeled "bullying" and then the discussion
becomes about bullying, even when supposedly they're still discussing
the individual occurrence, whether it was bad, how bad was it, and what
to do about it.  Not every thing about bullying will apply. 

Or "discrimination".  Things are called discrimation as if all discrim.
is invidious discrim.    And a firmly planted label just confuses
things. "Is this invidious discrimination" is worth asking at the end of
a discussion .

I'm sure there are many other examples about all facets of our lives. 

**BTW, everyone on alt.home.repair told me you can't use a light dimmer
to control the speed of a table fan, but I've been doing it with 1 fan
for 30 years and a couple others for 20 years with no problem.   (I
always test first.  For about one out of 6 or 8 of my fans it wouldn't
work at all, and if it works I let it run for an hour while I'm
watching.).  And I never let the speed get down to zero, but they can
run all ight and all day without getting hotter than normal or any other
problem.   I lower the speed until I can't hear it, and I like that much
better. 


> but it was tricky to use and needed two hands to do a bit of
>shoving and tugging.  I hadn't thought of a switch.  That could
>work well. 

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#36129

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 01:47:13 GMT, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>On 19:22  20 Nov 2016, micky wrote: 
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela 
>> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote: 
>> 
>>>On 13:55  19 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote: 
>>>
>>>> On 2016-11-19 13:48, pamela wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> Sometimes I want to plug stereo headphones into the mono 
>>>>> socket of a dictation machine which means the signal 
>>>>> connection is made only with the left channel of the stereo 
>>>>> plug.  
>>>> 
>>>> This is simple to do, but I often build my own. Should not be 
>>>> too difficult to find on good shops. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Sometimes I have a stereo source which I want to hear in mono 
>>>>> on stereo headphones. 
>>>> 
>>>> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the 
>>>> output amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 
>> 
>> Is short circuiting really the right word?  It's not a shorter 
>> circuit than normal, because normally the hot left never gets to 
>> the hot right. And it's not hot to ground, the usual meaning of 
>> short-circuit. 
>
>You're probably quite right but I'm not taking an exam, am I? 
>Heh!  :-)  
>
>> So I'm sure it's recommended against but why would it damage 
>> anything? 
>> 
>>>As a quick and dirty solution, it works well enough and without 
>>>disaster whenever I tried it on what I guess would be a 100 to 
>>>200 mV output. 
>> 
>> I have an answer. 
>> 
>> Get a stereo to stereo Y-connector, not hard to get, I've seen 
>> lots of models, some with 4" wires, some with a hard piece of 
>> plastic connecting the three, either outputs or inputs.   I use 
>> them to split my PC sound output, half to the speakers and half 
>> to the transmstter for the wireless speakers.  Sometimes I use a 
>> second one to send a third to the balun that goes to cat-4 to 
>> another balun that goes to my DVDR, to play sound in the bedroom 
>> (or maybe that's only the video. I've only done this for 5 
>> minutes, years ago.) 
>> 
>> Get a stereo plug and connect the L hot to the R hot.  When you 
>> want mono, plug the plug into the unused half of the Y 
>> connector.    
>> 
>> Maybe you can use a hot needle or even an eelctric drill to make 
>> a hole through the plastic case to attach a cord to keep the 
>> plug from getting lost. 
>>  
>> 
>>>I only wish there was a mono/stereo switch provided in equipment 
>>>but I hardly ever see one these days.  On devices like a PC it 
>>>cold easily be implemented in software but on the audio editor 
>>>and players I have used it is never there. 
>> 
>> The plug only suggestion is almost as easy as a swtich.  The 
>> only problem is not losing the plug.  While you're making one, 
>> make three. It will take no more time. 
>> 
>> 
>> Or you could just run a wire from the plug's L hot and R hot and 
>> use some sort of inline switch to connect or disconnect them. 
>> 
>> This switch is probably much too big, but you coudl use it. 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Funnytoday365-Lnline-Table-Control- 
>> Switch/dp/B01GXZQWB6/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid= 
>> 1479669125&sr=1-6&keywords=inline+switch 
>
>I tried that using a jack plud to do the shorting (you know what I
>mean) but it was tricky to use and needed two hands to do a bit of
>shoving and tugging.  I hadn't thought of a switch.  That could
>work well. 
>
>I don't think there'll be a problem finding a suitable switch. 
>Thanks. 

Let us know if it works, and if there is distortion or worse for any of
the devices you plan to do this with. 

The dictating machine is monaural to begin with iiuc. 

When I was just out of college, I worked in a poltiical campaign for
Congress, and there were two small cities in the district (and two
smaller ones).  The first two were where most of the votes were and when
I got there there already was a direct, local line to the second city
from the first (where the hq were and the candidate lived.) But anyone
who wanted to call had to go to the HQ. This was before 3-way calling.
I took the toll-free phone and a local-only phone and connected t hem in
parallel, so that anyone could call in on the local only line and anyone
there could call the other city, flip the switch and connect everyone.
It worked but the volume was low.

Another thing I did was that every day they (I) called every radio
station in the district with 30 seconds of a speech the candidate made**
that day or the previous day.   I held the speaker of the cassette
player to the mouthpiece of the phone.  The radio stations would play
it*** but fidelity was bad.  After I had the job for a couple day, I
just connected a 1/8" plug across the mouthpiece of the phone and
plugged it into the speaker jack of the cassette player, and when I
heard it on the radio the fidelity was perfect.   Not only that, we
could talk while we were playing it and the radio station didn't hear
that. (Not secrets but we didn't want to garble the recording either.) 

**Or had made some other day.  He didn't actually have an event every
day, not even a coffee.  

***They also printed our press releases for the same events, which we
sent to every newspaper in the district, and often it read like they had
a reporter there, even though they were just printing word for word our
press release.    Apparenly this is standard in the industry for papers
with few reporters. 

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#36131

On 2016-11-22 01:39, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 01:47:13 GMT, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:


>> I don't think there'll be a problem finding a suitable switch. 
>> Thanks. 
> 
> Let us know if it works, and if there is distortion or worse for any of
> the devices you plan to do this with. 

And you think she will be able to notice the distortion be ear alone? LOL.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#36138

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 22 Nov 2016 04:23:01 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:

>On 2016-11-22 01:39, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 01:47:13 GMT, pamela
>> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> I don't think there'll be a problem finding a suitable switch. 
>>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Let us know if it works, and if there is distortion or worse for any of
>> the devices you plan to do this with. 
>
>And you think she will be able to notice the distortion be ear alone? LOL.

Well if she can't notice it, what difference does it make? 

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#36150

On 06:51  22 Nov 2016, micky wrote:

> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 22 Nov 2016 04:23:01 +0100,
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:
> 
>>On 2016-11-22 01:39, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 01:47:13 GMT,
>>> pamela <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> I don't think there'll be a problem finding a suitable
>>>> switch. Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> Let us know if it works, and if there is distortion or worse
>>> for any of the devices you plan to do this with. 
>>
>>And you think she will be able to notice the distortion be ear
>>alone? LOL. 
> 
> Well if she can't notice it, what difference does it make? 

How true.  There many be many theoretical objections but the final 
test must be whether the voice recordings I play are any less
intelligible when the signal paths are shorted. 

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#36118

On 2016-11-20 20:22, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:23:59 GMT, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:


>>> This is not recommended, as you are short circuiting the output 
>>> amplifiers. Better find a software solution. 
> 
> Is short circuiting really the right word?  It's not a shorter circuit
> than normal, because normally the hot left never gets to the hot right.
> And it's not hot to ground, the usual meaning of short-circuit. 

You are right, it is not a short circuit, but for lack of better words...

Say that the L side tries to send 1 volt. Say the right side tries to
send 2 volts. What do you get? Well, undefined, you have to calculate on
each case. With resistive internal loads you might get the average
voltage, but output amplifiers would not typically have a resistor in
series with the load.

> So I'm sure it's recommended against but why would it damage anything? 

Because you have a voltage source trying to impose its voltage on
another voltage source. If the output circuitry is weak... yes, it might
be damaged.

At best, you get sound degradation. Distortion.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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