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  Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-13 12:31 +0000
    Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-11-13 12:38 +0000
      Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-11-13 12:54 +0000
      Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-13 15:27 +0100
        Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-14 21:57 +0000
          Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 11:09 +1100
          Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 03:57 +0100
      Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-14 21:55 +0000
        Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-14 19:19 -0500
          Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 03:59 +0100
            Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-14 22:05 -0500
            Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-11-15 12:30 +0000
              Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:54 +1100
                Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 22:50 +0100
              Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-16 01:02 +0000
            Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:51 +1100
          Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-16 01:01 +0000
            Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 20:13 -0500
              Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-16 08:49 +0000
                Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-16 10:50 +0100
                  Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-16 11:47 +0000
        Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-15 09:47 +0100
          Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-15 05:38 -0500
            Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-15 12:28 +0100
              Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-15 17:21 -0500
                Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 23:46 +0100
                  Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-16 01:07 +0000
                  Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-16 09:43 +0100
                    Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-16 20:27 +0100
                  Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-17 04:42 -0500
    Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-13 11:33 -0500
      Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-14 03:59 +0400
      Re: Orientation does not change left-right audio pamela <invalid@nospam.com> - 2016-11-14 21:54 +0000

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#35878 — Orientation does not change left-right audio

I turned my tablet upside down while watching Netflix.  The screen 
rotates through 180 degress but the audio channels stay the same, so 
thhe left channel is now on my right.

This also happens on Youtube.

How can I correct this?  

Am using Kitkat 4.4.2. 





-- 
test clip for left right stereo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJ0dvAl98k 

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#35879

On 13/11/2016 in message <XnsA6BF7F6764E16D4AM2@81.171.92.183> pamela wrote:

>How can I correct this?

Don't turn your tablet upside down.

-- 
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
There are 3 types of people in this world. Those who can count, and those 
who can't.

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#35881

Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 13/11/2016 in message <XnsA6BF7F6764E16D4AM2@81.171.92.183> pamela wrote:
>
>> How can I correct this?
>
> Don't turn your tablet upside down.

Another trivial annoyance ... if your tablet has vol+ above vol- when 
held in portrait, hold it in landscape so the vol+ is left and the vol- 
is right, but the volume slider moves right when you press vol+ and left 
when you press vol-

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#35884

On 2016-11-13 13:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 13/11/2016 in message <> pamela
> wrote:
> 
>> How can I correct this?
> 
> Don't turn your tablet upside down.

One has to turn the tablet upside down so that the usb socket is at the
side nearer the wall socket. The charging cable is typically too short.

But I have not noticed if the audio rotates or not. I need a piece with
clear sides.

I often listen with bluetooth headphones, though.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35916

On 14:27  13 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2016-11-13 13:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 13/11/2016 in message <> pamela
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How can I correct this?
>> 
>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
> 
> One has to turn the tablet upside down so that the usb socket is
> at the side nearer the wall socket. The charging cable is
> typically too short. 
> 
> But I have not noticed if the audio rotates or not. I need a
> piece with clear sides.
> 
> I often listen with bluetooth headphones, though.
> 

I wonder if it's a hardware problem rather than a problem with 
KitKat.

Can anyone kindly check it on their tablet for me.  This is what I 
used:  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJ0dvAl98k 

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#35917

"pamela" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:XnsA6C0DF6C9830D4AM2@81.171.118.178...
> On 14:27  13 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> On 2016-11-13 13:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 13/11/2016 in message <> pamela
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How can I correct this?
>>>
>>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
>>
>> One has to turn the tablet upside down so that the usb socket is
>> at the side nearer the wall socket. The charging cable is
>> typically too short.
>>
>> But I have not noticed if the audio rotates or not. I need a
>> piece with clear sides.
>>
>> I often listen with bluetooth headphones, though.
>>
>
> I wonder if it's a hardware problem rather than a problem with
> KitKat.
>
> Can anyone kindly check it on their tablet for me.  This is what I
> used:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJ0dvAl98k

Same problem you have with 4.2.2 on a Galaxy Tab 10.1 

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#35919

On 2016-11-14 22:57, pamela wrote:
> On 14:27  13 Nov 2016, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-11-13 13:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 13/11/2016 in message <> pamela
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How can I correct this?
>>>
>>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
>>
>> One has to turn the tablet upside down so that the usb socket is
>> at the side nearer the wall socket. The charging cable is
>> typically too short. 
>>
>> But I have not noticed if the audio rotates or not. I need a
>> piece with clear sides.
>>
>> I often listen with bluetooth headphones, though.
>>
> 
> I wonder if it's a hardware problem rather than a problem with 
> KitKat.
> 
> Can anyone kindly check it on their tablet for me.  This is what I 
> used:  
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJ0dvAl98k 

Thanks!

I tested that one with the youtube app, then I downloaded as file and
played directly in VLC. When I turned the tablet round (without
headphones) the left and right audio played on the wrong sides, ie,
audio did not change speakers.

This is an Asus Z 10 running Android 6.0.1

Looks like a bug to me.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35915

On 12:38  13 Nov 2016, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> On 13/11/2016 in message <XnsA6BF7F6764E16D4AM2@81.171.92.183>
> pamela wrote: 
> 
>>How can I correct this?
> 
> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
> 

I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in when 
watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when it's in 
normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break the thing.

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#35918

In article <XnsA6C0DF1D2A376D4AM2@81.171.118.178>, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>How can I correct this?
> > 
> > Don't turn your tablet upside down.
> 
> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in when 
> watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when it's in 
> normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break the thing.

get a longer cable

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#35920

On 2016-11-15 01:19, nospam wrote:
> In article <XnsA6C0DF1D2A376D4AM2@81.171.118.178>, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> How can I correct this?
>>>
>>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
>>
>> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in when 
>> watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when it's in 
>> normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break the thing.
> 
> get a longer cable

USB cables are not made long.

For charging it doesn't matter if they are long, but the main use of USB
cables is data transmission, and length is an issue.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35921

In article <v8aqfd-72e.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote:

> >>>> How can I correct this?
> >>>
> >>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
> >>
> >> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in when 
> >> watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when it's in 
> >> normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break the thing.
> > 
> > get a longer cable
> 
> USB cables are not made long.

yes they are.

the maximum length per the usb spec is 5 meters. that's plenty long.

> For charging it doesn't matter if they are long, 

actually it does.

> but the main use of USB
> cables is data transmission, and length is an issue.

which is why usb extension cables violate the spec.

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#35942

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> USB cables are not made long.

Short ones aren't, long ones are.

Alternatively, the O/P could remember to charge the device when it's not 
in use, so it doesn't need to be plugged in when it's in use :-P

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#35957

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
> Carlos E.R. wrote

>> USB cables are not made long.

> Short ones aren't, long ones are.

And USB extension cables work fine with charging.

> Alternatively, the O/P could remember to charge the device when it's not 
> in use, so it doesn't need to be plugged in when it's in use :-P

Specially with tablets which have plenty of space for a decent battery
and so don’t need to be plugged in when in use very much. 

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#35959

On 2016-11-15 20:54, Rod Speed wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote
>> Carlos E.R. wrote
> 
>>> USB cables are not made long.
> 
>> Short ones aren't, long ones are.
> 
> And USB extension cables work fine with charging.
> 
>> Alternatively, the O/P could remember to charge the device when it's
>> not in use, so it doesn't need to be plugged in when it's in use :-P
> 
> Specially with tablets which have plenty of space for a decent battery
> and so don’t need to be plugged in when in use very much.

If I watch a movie in my older tablet, the battery about depletes
completely. So if I can I plug it.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#35964

On 12:30  15 Nov 2016, Andy Burns wrote:

> Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> USB cables are not made long.
> 
> Short ones aren't, long ones are.
> 
> Alternatively, the O/P could remember to charge the device when
> it's not in use, so it doesn't need to be plugged in when it's
> in use :-P 

Heh!    :-)

Even easier would be an Android fix which rotated the channels with 
the tablet's orientation.

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#35956

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> wrote in message 
news:v8aqfd-72e.ln1@Telcontar.valinor...
> On 2016-11-15 01:19, nospam wrote:
>> In article <XnsA6C0DF1D2A376D4AM2@81.171.118.178>, pamela
>> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> How can I correct this?
>>>>
>>>> Don't turn your tablet upside down.
>>>
>>> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in when
>>> watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when it's in
>>> normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break the thing.
>>
>> get a longer cable
>
> USB cables are not made long.

Plenty of long extension USB cables, I have one myself for the desktop 
system
to get the socket next to where I sit to allow me to plug various charging 
cables
and USB sticks etc into conveniently.

> For charging it doesn't matter if they are long, but the main use of USB
> cables is data transmission, and length is an issue.

She's using it for charging and the length limit for data is quite a long 
way. 

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#35963

On 00:19  15 Nov 2016, nospam wrote:

> In article <XnsA6C0DF1D2A376D4AM2@81.171.118.178>, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>> >>How can I correct this?
>> > 
>> > Don't turn your tablet upside down.
>> 
>> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in
>> when watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when
>> it's in normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break
>> the thing. 
> 
> get a longer cable

I never said the problem was that the lead was too short.  The 
problem is that the micro USB plug sticks out on the side that is 
most prone to getting knocked because of the way I prefer to hold the  
tablet.  

I tried a lead with right-angle micro USB plug but the charge rate 
through the lead it came with was too low and I am not planning on a 
resoldering exercise when the channels should rotate with the tablet 
orientation in the first place.

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#35966

In article <XnsA6C2A68C8F40D4AM2@81.171.92.183>, pamela
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

> >> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged in
> >> when watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet when
> >> it's in normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate and break
> >> the thing. 
> > 
> > get a longer cable
> 
> I never said the problem was that the lead was too short.  The 
> problem is that the micro USB plug sticks out on the side that is 
> most prone to getting knocked because of the way I prefer to hold the  
> tablet.  
>
> I tried a lead with right-angle micro USB plug but the charge rate 
> through the lead it came with was too low and I am not planning on a 
> resoldering exercise when the channels should rotate with the tablet 
> orientation in the first place.

then it was defective. return it for a refund.

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#35969

On 01:13  16 Nov 2016, nospam wrote:

> In article <XnsA6C2A68C8F40D4AM2@81.171.92.183>, pamela
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
>> >> I wish it was so simple but the charge lead I keep plugged
>> >> in when watching movies is on the wrong side of the tablet
>> >> when it's in normal orientation.  Don't want to tempt fate
>> >> and break the thing. 
>> > 
>> > get a longer cable
>> 
>> I never said the problem was that the lead was too short.  The 
>> problem is that the micro USB plug sticks out on the side that
>> is most prone to getting knocked because of the way I prefer to
>> hold the  tablet.  
>>
>> I tried a lead with right-angle micro USB plug but the charge
>> rate through the lead it came with was too low and I am not
>> planning on a resoldering exercise when the channels should
>> rotate with the tablet orientation in the first place.
> 
> then it was defective. return it for a refund.

The lead is pefectly fine and within spec.  USB does require a
lead must carry 2 amps which is what my tablet requires if it is
to charge faster than the rate of discharge from a screen at full
brightness.

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#35973

pamela wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>> pamela wrote:
>>> I tried a lead with right-angle micro USB plug but the charge
>>> rate through the lead it came with was too low and I am not
>>> planning on a resoldering exercise when the channels should
>>> rotate with the tablet orientation in the first place.
>>
>> then it was defective. return it for a refund.
> 
> The lead is pefectly fine and within spec.

I wouldn't be too sure about that:

> USB does require a lead must carry 2 amps which is what my
> tablet requires if it is to charge faster than the rate of
> discharge from a screen at full brightness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_Power_Delivery_.28UPD.29
"an extension that specifies using certified PD aware USB
 cables with standard USB Type-A and Type-B connectors to
 deliver increased power (more than 7.5 W)"
So it might be that the angled cable doesn't meet this spec
and you get 7.5W instead of the 10W you need.

-p

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