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Google hangouts dialer nastiness

Started byThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
First post2016-11-10 07:44 -0800
Last post2016-11-10 18:36 -0600
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  Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 07:44 -0800
    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-10 16:15 +0000
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:27 -0800
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-10 19:49 +0100
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-10 19:04 +0000
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 18:09 +0000
    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 16:32 +0000
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:56 -0800
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 18:36 +0000
          Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 11:15 -0800
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 19:36 +0000
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 13:52 -0800
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-10 18:34 -0500
                  Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-11 14:38 +0100
                    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:41 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 04:11 -0500
                  Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-12 08:24 -0500
                    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 23:43 -0500
                      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-13 00:26 -0500
                        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-14 02:47 -0500
          Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-11-11 14:35 +0000
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 07:58 -0800
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 11:44 -0500
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 10:18 -0800
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-11-14 14:21 +0000
    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-11-10 18:36 -0600

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#35825

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2016-11-11 14:35 +0000
Message-ID<o04kvc$b1e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35787
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:36:24 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

> On 10/11/2016 5:56 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 11/10/2016 08:32 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2016 3:44 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> Moto G #2, android 6.0
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I
>>>> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting
>>>> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I
>>>> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the
>>>> call.
>>>>
>>>> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not
>>>> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to
>>>> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Maybe you have Hangouts set as default dialler? I'm not sure if you can
>>> do that - but try going to settings > apps > Hangouts and see if it has
>>> any defaults set. If it has, clear them and try again.
>> 
>> It said I had some but wouldn't tell me what they were.  I certainly 
>> wouldn't have deliberately done that.  Bastards. I cleared them, which 
>> seemed to allow me to use the 'phone' part.  I wonder if I'll have to do 
>> this process again if I choose to use the hangouts dialer again... 
>> Probably :-(
>> 
> 
> Not unless you let it. If you use Hangouts and want to dial someone it
> will (I'm guessing as I don't use Hangouts  - but it's normally what
> happens) ask you which app you want it to dial with and if you want to
> use it once or every time.

Yes, I used to use the "one time" option a lot. Now, unfortunately, that's
not available for some platforms. e.g. on S6 with android 6 it just asks
"ok" then sets the default app. No option to do one time. Suuuper annoying.

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#35828

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-11 07:58 -0800
Message-ID<o04pqm$571$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35825
On 11/11/2016 06:35 AM, Joe Beanfish wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:36:24 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:
>
>> On 10/11/2016 5:56 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2016 08:32 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2016 3:44 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> Moto G #2, android 6.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I
>>>>> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting
>>>>> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I
>>>>> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the
>>>>> call.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not
>>>>> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to
>>>>> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
>>>>>
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you have Hangouts set as default dialler? I'm not sure if you can
>>>> do that - but try going to settings > apps > Hangouts and see if it has
>>>> any defaults set. If it has, clear them and try again.
>>>
>>> It said I had some but wouldn't tell me what they were.  I certainly
>>> wouldn't have deliberately done that.  Bastards. I cleared them, which
>>> seemed to allow me to use the 'phone' part.  I wonder if I'll have to do
>>> this process again if I choose to use the hangouts dialer again...
>>> Probably :-(
>>>
>>
>> Not unless you let it. If you use Hangouts and want to dial someone it
>> will (I'm guessing as I don't use Hangouts  - but it's normally what
>> happens) ask you which app you want it to dial with and if you want to
>> use it once or every time.
>
> Yes, I used to use the "one time" option a lot. Now, unfortunately, that's
> not available for some platforms. e.g. on S6 with android 6 it just asks
> "ok" then sets the default app. No option to do one time. Suuuper annoying.

I get NO choice about which dialer to use.  I may have cleared the 
google dialer as default (which I never chose), but I don't trust it to 
come back again.

Which dialers do you guys like?

Are you by any chance related to another Joe xxxfish?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "I won't allow the half of Americans who pay no taxes to bear the burden
    of the other half who aren't paying their fair share."     -- Guess Who

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#35829

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-11-11 11:44 -0500
Message-ID<111120161144077294%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#35828
In article <o04pqm$571$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I get NO choice about which dialer to use. 

nonsense.

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#35831

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-11 10:18 -0800
Message-ID<o0521f$5e0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35828
On 11/11/2016 07:58 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 06:35 AM, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:36:24 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2016 5:56 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2016 08:32 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2016 3:44 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>> Moto G #2, android 6.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I
>>>>>> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting
>>>>>> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I
>>>>>> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the
>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not
>>>>>> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to
>>>>>> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you have Hangouts set as default dialler? I'm not sure if you can
>>>>> do that - but try going to settings > apps > Hangouts and see if it has
>>>>> any defaults set. If it has, clear them and try again.
>>>>
>>>> It said I had some but wouldn't tell me what they were.  I certainly
>>>> wouldn't have deliberately done that.  Bastards. I cleared them, which
>>>> seemed to allow me to use the 'phone' part.  I wonder if I'll have to do
>>>> this process again if I choose to use the hangouts dialer again...
>>>> Probably :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not unless you let it. If you use Hangouts and want to dial someone it
>>> will (I'm guessing as I don't use Hangouts  - but it's normally what
>>> happens) ask you which app you want it to dial with and if you want to
>>> use it once or every time.
>>
>> Yes, I used to use the "one time" option a lot. Now, unfortunately, that's
>> not available for some platforms. e.g. on S6 with android 6 it just asks
>> "ok" then sets the default app. No option to do one time. Suuuper annoying.
>
> I get NO choice about which dialer to use.  I may have cleared the
> google dialer as default (which I never chose), but I don't trust it to
> come back again.
>
> Which dialers do you guys like?

I just installed Drupe.  It gives me a choice, but not quite as easily 
as it claims.  Supposedly you swipe from your contact to the symbol for 
the darrier/app you want to use, but when I do that the 'phone' switches 
to hangouts.  If I tap the 'phone' icon it throws up my favorite 
contacts, which works ok.  Gotta find out how to get ALL contacts...

> Are you by any chance related to another Joe xxxfish?

-- 
Ch  rs, B v
    My f ck ng k yb  rd h s l st  ts v w ls.

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#35911

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2016-11-14 14:21 +0000
Message-ID<o0ch9r$ltl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35828
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 07:58:43 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 11/11/2016 06:35 AM, Joe Beanfish wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:36:24 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2016 5:56 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2016 08:32 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2016 3:44 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>> Moto G #2, android 6.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I
>>>>>> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting
>>>>>> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I
>>>>>> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the
>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not
>>>>>> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to
>>>>>> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you have Hangouts set as default dialler? I'm not sure if you can
>>>>> do that - but try going to settings > apps > Hangouts and see if it has
>>>>> any defaults set. If it has, clear them and try again.
>>>>
>>>> It said I had some but wouldn't tell me what they were.  I certainly
>>>> wouldn't have deliberately done that.  Bastards. I cleared them, which
>>>> seemed to allow me to use the 'phone' part.  I wonder if I'll have to do
>>>> this process again if I choose to use the hangouts dialer again...
>>>> Probably :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not unless you let it. If you use Hangouts and want to dial someone it
>>> will (I'm guessing as I don't use Hangouts  - but it's normally what
>>> happens) ask you which app you want it to dial with and if you want to
>>> use it once or every time.
>>
>> Yes, I used to use the "one time" option a lot. Now, unfortunately, that's
>> not available for some platforms. e.g. on S6 with android 6 it just asks
>> "ok" then sets the default app. No option to do one time. Suuuper annoying.
> 
> I get NO choice about which dialer to use.  I may have cleared the 
> google dialer as default (which I never chose), but I don't trust it to 
> come back again.

No choice generally implies only one dialer installed or a default
has been set.

> 
> Which dialers do you guys like?

I've always used the phone's inbuilt one. No compelling reason to
use another for me.

> Are you by any chance related to another Joe xxxfish?

No. I borrowed the pseudonym from a high school classmate.

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#35815

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2016-11-10 18:36 -0600
Message-ID<e8ki4uF6naiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35773
The Real Bev wrote:

> Moto G #2, android 6.0
> 
> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I 
> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting 
> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I 
> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the 
> call.
> 
> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not 
> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to 
> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
> 
> What am I missing?

If you used Hangouts Dialer before and decided to make it the default
then it will show up as the dialer.  I have the following dialers:

Phone (the built-in app) - cellular phone only
Hangouts Dialer - wifi only
Xfinity Connect - wifi only
Skype - wifi only

I also have the Google Voice app so outbound calls, especially wifi,
look like they originated from my Google Voice phone number.  I also use
it for cellular phone calls.  It is my main phone number migrated to
there that I've had for decades.  One number (Google Voice) calls ALL my
phones: cell phones (all of them), home phones, work phones, etc.
However, still something else is needed to make the call, like Hangouts
Dialer (wifi) or Phone (cellular).

When I make a call and initiate it, I get a screen asking me which
caller to use.  So I see the 4 listed above.  If I tap on the one that
was previously used then it gets used now.  If I tap on a different one
than was used the last time, I have to tap twice: once to select and
again to use.  At the bottom of the screen are the choices "Always" or
"Just Once".  Rather than tap "Just Once" and then tap on the caller, I
just tap twice on the caller app.  If I tap "Always" then that caller
always gets used.  I would have to go into the app's config to NOT have
it the default.

So maybe you made Hangouts Dialer the default caller (aka dialer).  To
unset an app as the default, go to Settings -> Application Manager ->
scroll the list leftward to get at the All column, scroll down to the
app that is current the default, select it, and click on "Clear
defaults" option for that app.

If you uninstall an app that is the handler for a default action, there
won't be a default action.  That means you will have to pick another app
to be the default or use the popup screen asking you which app to use
(and not pick a default "Always" app if you want to always be asked
which one to use).

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