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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| First post | 2016-11-08 07:30 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-11-10 15:12 -0500 |
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Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-08 07:30 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 13:59 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:41 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-08 13:27 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-08 16:16 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-08 16:05 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-08 22:40 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:06 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-09 15:33 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-10 07:57 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:56 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-10 18:27 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-10 18:50 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 20:03 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:43 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:44 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:08 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:40 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:08 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:34 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 22:54 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 09:03 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 10:49 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-16 10:51 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 14:01 -0800
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-17 11:21 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-17 12:47 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:35 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-12 22:34 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:45 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-13 22:49 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-13 23:02 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 15:41 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 18:26 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 13:31 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-12 09:21 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-12 22:53 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:41 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-13 22:51 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-14 12:11 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 15:41 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:44 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:09 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-15 15:22 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:48 +1100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 15:06 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-11 03:53 +0400
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 19:57 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-11 06:00 +0400
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 00:51 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-13 04:10 +0400
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 19:40 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-08 14:48 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:10 -0800
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-08 11:21 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-09 03:51 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:03 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 14:45 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:13 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-11 03:40 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:25 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 04:03 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 10:34 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 23:29 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-13 09:57 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-14 02:19 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-14 10:45 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-09 07:29 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-09 11:52 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:01 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-11 03:46 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2016-11-12 04:09 +0400
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 22:27 -0800
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-12 00:35 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 08:58 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-14 14:02 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-14 15:45 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 15:09 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-15 16:11 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-15 22:44 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 08:32 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 13:56 -0800
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-17 04:36 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:52 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-21 01:34 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-24 03:38 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-15 00:34 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 14:54 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:08 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:09 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 11:20 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-09 11:58 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 13:18 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-09 11:05 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:07 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:08 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 08:19 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 08:35 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 09:43 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-15 10:02 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:14 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:39 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-16 12:59 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 15:44 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-20 19:43 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 04:07 -0600
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 11:36 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 06:09 -0600
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 13:25 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bob <Bob@the.builder> - 2016-11-15 07:48 -0600
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-20 15:11 -0500
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-09 18:18 +0000
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-11-09 09:47 +0100
Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2016-11-10 15:12 -0500
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 07:30 -0500 |
| Subject | Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <04h32cllggoa3cssu28hro7u5i6vokjstt@4ax.com> |
Hi, I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn it on. The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete themselves like google maps do. I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? Thanks
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 13:59 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <nvsi60$856$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35717 |
On 11/08/2016 01:30 PM, micky wrote: > Hi, > > I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. > > Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? > > If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn it > on. Driving directions are not the only purpose for GPS ON. Many map applications often use various GPS aware features, like displaying your location on the map, or recording your tracklog. Some applications are fine with GPS OFF, other may be stubborn, keeping asking you to turn it ON. Typical use case can be the outdoor map during a hiking tour. The best is asking at application specific internet resources.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 14:41 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <21j92cp4gv0n7t4aobajdc0s7lla6fkbvp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #35718 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:59:08 +0100, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: >On 11/08/2016 01:30 PM, micky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >> >> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >> >> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn it >> on. > >Driving directions are not the only purpose for GPS ON. > >Many map applications often use various GPS aware features, >like displaying your location on the map, or recording your tracklog. Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought of that. I generally don't need that. For one thing, my location not even on the map that I'm looking at, and when it is, 99% of the time know where I am. I think I've only been totally mixed up 3 times in all these years. And I don't report to anyone so I don't think anyone else wants my tracklog, and I'll never look at it. But, I'll remember and turn the GPS on if I ever do want to know where I am. > >Some applications are fine with GPS OFF, >other may be stubborn, keeping asking you to turn it ON. I'll see. > >Typical use case can be the outdoor map during a hiking tour. Too fat for hiking, but lost 20 pounds. Only another 95 to go, to be at my high school weight. But 60 and I'll be ready to hike again. >The best is asking at application specific internet resources. >
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 13:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nvsjrm$39t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35717 |
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: > Hi, > > I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. > > Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? > > If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn it > on. > > The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete > themselves like google maps do. > > I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, or > only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure maps, > including rural areas. Am I missing something? > > Thanks Obviously you are missing something. Android is the greatest spyware ever. They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody else, if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click YES, you should know that. All apps want access to everything although it is none of their busyness. Edmund
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| From | Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 16:16 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <nvsq8a$18bn$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #35719 |
Edmund wrote: > micky wrote: >> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should >> turn it on. > > Obviously you are missing something. > Android is the greatest spyware ever. Obviously you are missing something. Maps on *any* smartphone are primarily meant for navigation. -p
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 16:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <nvst3j$cc6$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35721 |
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 16:16:25 +0100, Piet wrote: > Edmund wrote: >> micky wrote: >>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn >>> it on. >> >> Obviously you are missing something. Android is the greatest spyware >> ever. > > Obviously you are missing something. > Maps on *any* smartphone are primarily meant for navigation. > > -p That doesn't take away anything I said. It merely shows that you too did not ever read anything about the requirements you agreed for the apps you installed. Edmund
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| From | Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-08 22:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <nvtgp2$jq2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #35722 |
Edmund wrote: > Piet wrote: >> Edmund wrote: >>> micky wrote: >>>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn >>>> it on. >>> >>> Obviously you are missing something. Android is the greatest spyware >>> ever. >> >> Obviously you are missing something. >> Maps on *any* smartphone are primarily meant for navigation. > > That doesn't take away anything I said. It merely shows that you > too did not ever read anything about the requirements you agreed > for the apps you installed. You clearly show you don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. Sleep well. -p
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2016-11-09 09:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <61718a33-4282-9f48-259e-0a1497c9ba33@arnowelzel.de> |
| In reply to | #35719 |
Edmund schrieb: > On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >> >> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >> >> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn it >> on. >> >> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete >> themselves like google maps do. >> >> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, or >> only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure maps, >> including rural areas. Am I missing something? >> >> Thanks > > Obviously you are missing something. > Android is the greatest spyware ever. Then don't use it. > They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody else, if > you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click YES, you > should know that. If you really believe this - then don't use Android at all, since all the system apps of the manufacturer don't even ask - they are already installed and running! > All apps want access to everything although it is none of their busyness. And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is used to check the location on a map? -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de http://de-rec-fahrrad.de http://fahrradzukunft.de
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-09 15:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <nvvfke$2rb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35734 |
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:06:23 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: > Edmund schrieb: > >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>> >>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>> >>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn >>> it on. >>> >>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete >>> themselves like google maps do. >>> >>> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, >>> or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure >>> maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Obviously you are missing something. >> Android is the greatest spyware ever. > > Then don't use it. I was not aware of this before I bought an android device. Unfortunately, we have very little choice when it comes to a cell phone but I certainly will check if there is an alternative that meet my wishes when I buy a new one. > >> They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody else, >> if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click YES, >> you should know that. > > If you really believe this - Believe?? read it for yourself! > then don't use Android at all, since all > the system apps of the manufacturer don't even ask - they are already > installed and running! I am talking about the app in the whats its name play store? > >> All apps want access to everything although it is none of their >> busyness. > > And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is used > to check the location on a map? I did not say that so don't make things up for yourself and then disagree with it. The OP mentioned that an app is nagging him to put his GPS ON while he did not want to use it. That one thing, another is that most if not all apps require access to your contacts for no obvious reason. Edmund
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| From | Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 07:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <e8injcFn96fU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35752 |
in 35953 20161109 153334 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:06:23 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: > >> Edmund schrieb: >> >>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>>> >>>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>>> >>>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should turn >>>> it on. >>>> >>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete >>>> themselves like google maps do. >>>> >>>> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, >>>> or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure >>>> maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Obviously you are missing something. >>> Android is the greatest spyware ever. >> >> Then don't use it. > >I was not aware of this before I bought an android device. >Unfortunately, we have very little choice when it comes to a cell phone >but I certainly will check if there is an alternative that meet my wishes >when I buy a new one. > >> >>> They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody else, >>> if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click YES, >>> you should know that. >> >> If you really believe this - > >Believe?? read it for yourself! > >> then don't use Android at all, since all >> the system apps of the manufacturer don't even ask - they are already >> installed and running! > >I am talking about the app in the whats its name play store? >> >>> All apps want access to everything although it is none of their >>> busyness. >> >> And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is used >> to check the location on a map? > >I did not say that so don't make things up for yourself and then disagree >with it. > >The OP mentioned that an app is nagging him to put his GPS ON while he >did not want to use it. Then he shouldn't run apps that need GPS. Obvious, isn't it. Some apps, eg Twitter, ask if they can use your location, but you can decline. >That one thing, another is that most if not all >apps require access to your contacts for no obvious reason. Same again. If you don't set up a google account on the phone and don't install any apps then you won't have a problem. It's just a phone. What are you scared of?
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 09:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o01g8r$e0l$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35764 |
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:57:32 +0000, Bob Martin wrote: > in 35953 20161109 153334 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:06:23 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: >> >>> Edmund schrieb: >>> >>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>>>> >>>>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>>>> >>>>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should >>>>> turn it on. >>>>> >>>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete >>>>> themselves like google maps do. >>>>> >>>>> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, >>>>> or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure >>>>> maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Obviously you are missing something. >>>> Android is the greatest spyware ever. >>> >>> Then don't use it. >> >>I was not aware of this before I bought an android device. >>Unfortunately, we have very little choice when it comes to a cell phone >>but I certainly will check if there is an alternative that meet my >>wishes when I buy a new one. >> >> >>>> They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody >>>> else, >>>> if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click >>>> YES, >>>> you should know that. >>> >>> If you really believe this - >> >>Believe?? read it for yourself! >> >>> then don't use Android at all, since all the system apps of the >>> manufacturer don't even ask - they are already installed and running! >> >>I am talking about the app in the whats its name play store? >>> >>>> All apps want access to everything although it is none of their >>>> busyness. >>> >>> And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is >>> used to check the location on a map? >> >>I did not say that so don't make things up for yourself and then >>disagree with it. >> >>The OP mentioned that an app is nagging him to put his GPS ON while he >>did not want to use it. > > Then he shouldn't run apps that need GPS. Obvious, isn't it. > Some apps, eg Twitter, ask if they can use your location, but you can > decline. Are you serious? those apps keep on nagging for access to everything over and over again, even if you have chosen a million time "NO" the next time it is nagging again. And I can assure you many of accidentally press the wrong button. > >>That one thing, another is that most if not all apps require access to >>your contacts for no obvious reason. > > Same again. > If you don't set up a google account on the phone and don't install any > apps then you won't have a problem. It's just a phone. > What are you scared of? First of all I didn't buy a Smart phone to disable all possibilities. Second, don't make things up I never said I was afraid, I just hate this gross violation of our privacy Then my phone is packed with grapware that I didn't ask for, I don't want and I don't use, still I CANNOT remove it! Google/Samsung decide what is best for US on our phones. So they occupy half of MY PHONES memory that I cannot use for apps I DO want. So I never ever will buy anything from Samsung again and my next phone will be an apple or Windows phone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70p_VjsiIdk Edmund
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| From | Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 18:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <e8jsh2F1cj2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35767 |
in 35968 20161110 095643 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:57:32 +0000, Bob Martin wrote: > >> in 35953 20161109 153334 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:06:23 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: >>> >>>> Edmund schrieb: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>>>>> >>>>>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should >>>>>> turn it on. >>>>>> >>>>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to delete >>>>>> themselves like google maps do. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major cities, >>>>>> or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure >>>>>> maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Obviously you are missing something. >>>>> Android is the greatest spyware ever. >>>> >>>> Then don't use it. >>> >>>I was not aware of this before I bought an android device. >>>Unfortunately, we have very little choice when it comes to a cell phone >>>but I certainly will check if there is an alternative that meet my >>>wishes when I buy a new one. >>> >>> >>>>> They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody >>>>> else, >>>>> if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click >>>>> YES, >>>>> you should know that. >>>> >>>> If you really believe this - >>> >>>Believe?? read it for yourself! >>> >>>> then don't use Android at all, since all the system apps of the >>>> manufacturer don't even ask - they are already installed and running! >>> >>>I am talking about the app in the whats its name play store? >>>> >>>>> All apps want access to everything although it is none of their >>>>> busyness. >>>> >>>> And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is >>>> used to check the location on a map? >>> >>>I did not say that so don't make things up for yourself and then >>>disagree with it. >>> >>>The OP mentioned that an app is nagging him to put his GPS ON while he >>>did not want to use it. >> >> Then he shouldn't run apps that need GPS. Obvious, isn't it. >> Some apps, eg Twitter, ask if they can use your location, but you can >> decline. > >Are you serious? those apps keep on nagging for access to everything over >and over again, even if you have chosen a million time "NO" the next time >it is nagging again. And I can assure you many of accidentally press the >wrong button. I've used every version of Android from 2 up to 7.1.1 with over 100 apps and I've never had that problem. >> >>>That one thing, another is that most if not all apps require access to >>>your contacts for no obvious reason. >> >> Same again. >> If you don't set up a google account on the phone and don't install any >> apps then you won't have a problem. It's just a phone. >> What are you scared of? > >First of all I didn't buy a Smart phone to disable all possibilities. >Second, don't make things up I never said I was afraid, I just hate this >gross violation of our privacy >Then my phone is packed with grapware that I didn't ask for, I don't want >and I don't use, still I CANNOT remove it! Google/Samsung decide what is >best for US on our phones. So they occupy half of MY PHONES memory that I >cannot use for apps I DO want. >So I never ever will buy anything from Samsung again and my next phone >will be an apple or Windows phone. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70p_VjsiIdk Install TWRP and Cyanogenmod and you will be in total control.
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 18:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o02fid$tfu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35784 |
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:27:46 +0000, Bob Martin wrote: > in 35968 20161110 095643 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:57:32 +0000, Bob Martin wrote: >> >>> in 35953 20161109 153334 Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 09:06:23 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Edmund schrieb: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:30:40 -0500, micky wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have Me maps and it keeps asking me to turn on my GPS location. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the purpose of this to give me driving directions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I don't want driving directions, is there any reason I should >>>>>>> turn it on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The maps seem to display fine, and btw they don't threaten to >>>>>>> delete themselves like google maps do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've also got Here maps, but it seems to be only about major >>>>>>> cities, >>>>>>> or only about travelilng from one place to another, not just pure >>>>>>> maps, including rural areas. Am I missing something? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously you are missing something. >>>>>> Android is the greatest spyware ever. >>>>> >>>>> Then don't use it. >>>> >>>>I was not aware of this before I bought an android device. >>>>Unfortunately, we have very little choice when it comes to a cell >>>>phone but I certainly will check if there is an alternative that meet >>>>my wishes when I buy a new one. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> They want to know EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME from you and everybody >>>>>> else, >>>>>> if you should read the things you HAVE TO ACCEPT before you click >>>>>> YES, >>>>>> you should know that. >>>>> >>>>> If you really believe this - >>>> >>>>Believe?? read it for yourself! >>>> >>>>> then don't use Android at all, since all the system apps of the >>>>> manufacturer don't even ask - they are already installed and >>>>> running! >>>> >>>>I am talking about the app in the whats its name play store? >>>>> >>>>>> All apps want access to everything although it is none of their >>>>>> busyness. >>>>> >>>>> And why should "GPS" not be the business of a application which is >>>>> used to check the location on a map? >>>> >>>>I did not say that so don't make things up for yourself and then >>>>disagree with it. >>>> >>>>The OP mentioned that an app is nagging him to put his GPS ON while he >>>>did not want to use it. >>> >>> Then he shouldn't run apps that need GPS. Obvious, isn't it. >>> Some apps, eg Twitter, ask if they can use your location, but you can >>> decline. >> >>Are you serious? those apps keep on nagging for access to everything >>over and over again, even if you have chosen a million time "NO" the >>next time it is nagging again. And I can assure you many of accidentally >>press the wrong button. > > I've used every version of Android from 2 up to 7.1.1 with over 100 apps > and I've never had that problem. I have about three apps and my GPS is asking me every time I use it if I want to share my location even though I selected NO about 10.000 times now. > > >>>>That one thing, another is that most if not all apps require access to >>>>your contacts for no obvious reason. >>> >>> Same again. >>> If you don't set up a google account on the phone and don't install >>> any apps then you won't have a problem. It's just a phone. >>> What are you scared of? >> >>First of all I didn't buy a Smart phone to disable all possibilities. >>Second, don't make things up I never said I was afraid, I just hate this >>gross violation of our privacy Then my phone is packed with grapware >>that I didn't ask for, I don't want and I don't use, still I CANNOT >>remove it! Google/Samsung decide what is best for US on our phones. So >>they occupy half of MY PHONES memory that I cannot use for apps I DO >>want. >>So I never ever will buy anything from Samsung again and my next phone >>will be an apple or Windows phone. >> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70p_VjsiIdk > > Install TWRP and Cyanogenmod and you will be in total control. Any specific suggestion for a Samsung Kzoom C115 ? Edmund
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 20:03 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o02g8d$h6e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35788 |
On 11/10/2016 07:50 PM, Edmund wrote: > > I have about three apps and my GPS is asking me every time I use it if I > want to share my location even though I selected NO about 10.000 times > now. Hm, it is quite funny. As I use several GPS aware applications as well, and none of them asks me about sharing the location. If I want to share, I explicitly do so, or I set it to do so automatically on purpose. E.g. OSMAnd and LocusMap can guide you toward dynamic destination, what can sometimes be useful, if 2 groups are going to meet each other in city, or in challenging terrain.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-10 14:43 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <ddj92clmpecgdb8rnerulqp44cv3jscv83@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #35790 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:03:06 +0100, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: > > >E.g. OSMAnd and LocusMap can guide you toward dynamic destination, >what can sometimes be useful, >if 2 groups are going to meet each other in city, >or in challenging terrain. That's impressive. Someone picked me up yesterday, in a car, and I felt obliged to call again when I moved to a location she had to pass to get where I had been. I thought she still might drive right by us.
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 08:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o0ehtb$vf4$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35790 |
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:03:06 +0100, Poutnik wrote: > On 11/10/2016 07:50 PM, Edmund wrote: >> >> I have about three apps and my GPS is asking me every time I use it if >> I want to share my location even though I selected NO about 10.000 >> times now. > > Hm, it is quite funny. You think? > > As I use several GPS aware applications as well, > and none of them asks me about sharing the location. Apart from why you using several, those apps don't always ask permission they often just take permission, eg after an -automatic- update they can change permissions at will, there will that is, not yours. BTW is are your GPS apps on-line apps? If so they don't have to ask you anything because they already know where you are. > > If I want to share, I explicitly do so, > or I set it to do so automatically on purpose. > > E.g. OSMAnd and LocusMap can guide you toward dynamic destination, > what can sometimes be useful, > if 2 groups are going to meet each other in city, > or in challenging terrain. Maybe but I don't know what a dynamic destination is. Is that a moving destination? If so how doest that work? Edmund
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 10:08 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o0ej96$68u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35928 |
On 11/15/2016 09:44 AM, Edmund wrote: > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:03:06 +0100, Poutnik wrote: > >> On 11/10/2016 07:50 PM, Edmund wrote: >>> >>> I have about three apps and my GPS is asking me every time I use it if >>> I want to share my location even though I selected NO about 10.000 >>> times now. >> >> Hm, it is quite funny. > > You think? Sure, but you should be aware that being funny is an attribute of the object-subject relation, not an attribute of the object. >> As I use several GPS aware applications as well, >> and none of them asks me about sharing the location. > > Apart from why you using several, those apps don't always ask permission > they often just take permission, eg after an -automatic- update they can > change permissions at will, there will that is, not yours. Updates always ask me for additional permissions. But I do not use automatic updates. GPS application is not the same as the GPS navigation. The latter is a sublass of the former. And even for the latter, different GPS navigations have different profiling. Like MapsFactor navigator / OSMAnd / LocusMap. 1/ focused on car navigation 2/ universal 3/ focused on outdoor usage. You may have confused my, speaking previously about sharing location and not about allowing permission to do so. > BTW is are your GPS apps on-line apps? > If so they don't have to ask you anything because they already know where > you are. To use GPS aware application that does not know where you are is rather contradictory. Unless you perform specific offline operations that do not need to know you position. Some of them can be optionally online, and there is systeme wide online switch. > > Maybe but I don't know what a dynamic destination is. > Is that a moving destination? If so how doest that work? > Yes, a moving destination. It is supported by OSMAnd and LocusMap, perhaps by other, with need of server supported sharing the position on interested parties. It is very useful if a group of friend is separated, accidentally or for a purpose. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) A wise man guards words he says, as they say about him more, than he says about the subject.
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 13:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o0f37r$m5k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35933 |
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:08:22 +0100, Poutnik wrote: > On 11/15/2016 09:44 AM, Edmund wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:03:06 +0100, Poutnik wrote: >> >>> On 11/10/2016 07:50 PM, Edmund wrote: >>>> >>>> I have about three apps and my GPS is asking me every time I use it >>>> if I want to share my location even though I selected NO about 10.000 >>>> times now. >>> >>> Hm, it is quite funny. >> >> You think? > > Sure, but you should be aware that being funny is an attribute of the > object-subject relation, > not an attribute of the object. > >>> As I use several GPS aware applications as well, and none of them asks >>> me about sharing the location. >> >> Apart from why you using several, those apps don't always ask >> permission they often just take permission, eg after an -automatic- >> update they can change permissions at will, there will that is, not >> yours. > > Updates always ask me for additional permissions. > But I do not use automatic updates. > > GPS application is not the same as the GPS navigation. > The latter is a sublass of the former. And even for the latter, > different GPS navigations have different profiling. > Like MapsFactor navigator / OSMAnd / LocusMap. > 1/ focused on car navigation 2/ universal 3/ focused on outdoor usage. > > > You may have confused my, speaking previously about sharing location and > not about allowing permission to do so. > >> BTW is are your GPS apps on-line apps? >> If so they don't have to ask you anything because they already know >> where you are. > > To use GPS aware application that does not know where you are is rather > contradictory. I said "THEY" know. > > Some of them can be optionally online, > and there is systeme wide online switch. > > > >> Maybe but I don't know what a dynamic destination is. >> Is that a moving destination? If so how doest that work? >> >> > Yes, a moving destination. It is supported by OSMAnd and LocusMap, > perhaps by other, with need of server supported sharing the position on > interested parties. It is very useful if a group of friend is separated, > accidentally or for a purpose. OK Thanks for the info. Edmund
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 15:08 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o0f4re$ps$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35944 |
On 11/15/2016 02:40 PM, Edmund wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:08:22 +0100, Poutnik wrote: > >> >>> BTW is are your GPS apps on-line apps? >>> If so they don't have to ask you anything because they already know >>> where you are. >> >> To use GPS aware application that does not know where you are is rather >> contradictory. > > I said "THEY" know. I have not said the app is online for them to know. OSMAnd / LocusMap / MapsFactor navigator can work fully offline, so do many not navigationg GPS applications. Why do you use applications when you do not trust their authors so you are afraid being online ? You may want to avoid all mobile phones as all can be tracked. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) A wise man guards words he says, as they say about him more, than he says about the subject.
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| From | Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-15 15:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Me maps, why gps? Here maps, good? |
| Message-ID | <o0f9uv$dl9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #35948 |
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:08:13 +0100, Poutnik wrote: > On 11/15/2016 02:40 PM, Edmund wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:08:22 +0100, Poutnik wrote: >> >> >>>> BTW is are your GPS apps on-line apps? >>>> If so they don't have to ask you anything because they already know >>>> where you are. >>> >>> To use GPS aware application that does not know where you are is >>> rather contradictory. >> >> I said "THEY" know. > > I have not said the app is online for them to know. > OSMAnd / LocusMap / MapsFactor navigator can work fully offline, > so do many not navigationg GPS applications. > > Why do you use applications You can answer that yourself, because those apps are very handy. > when you do not trust their authors so you > are afraid being online ? I am amazed that people like yourself are so ignorant about there privacy, but it your choice. BTW being on-line is very expensive here, especially over the border. > > You may want to avoid all mobile phones as all can be tracked. And that must be some kind of weird reason to give up the little privacy that is still left? Edmund
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